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		<title>By: Sunday Links &#38; a Song at 10,000 Monkeys and a Camera</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/09/22/hero-of-the-day-origin-of-stupidity/#comment-181204</link>
		<dc:creator>Sunday Links &#38; a Song at 10,000 Monkeys and a Camera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 03:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] And finally&#8230; the Origin of Stupidty ###      &#171; Two posts, two [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Indeed</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/09/22/hero-of-the-day-origin-of-stupidity/#comment-180690</link>
		<dc:creator>Indeed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 15:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;But don’t take her advice and pick up the book – giving away books for free makes money for these people...&lt;/i&gt;

I think it would still be worth it to accept a book, then loudly ripping out the bullshit pages, pulling out some sturdy shears and cutting them into tiny pieces, then tossing them out. &quot;Thanks,&quot; I&#039;d then say. That would be awesome and worth whatever benefit the Kirk Cameron organization got. Where are they distributing these again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>But don’t take her advice and pick up the book – giving away books for free makes money for these people&#8230;</i></p>
<p>I think it would still be worth it to accept a book, then loudly ripping out the bullshit pages, pulling out some sturdy shears and cutting them into tiny pieces, then tossing them out. &#8220;Thanks,&#8221; I&#8217;d then say. That would be awesome and worth whatever benefit the Kirk Cameron organization got. Where are they distributing these again?</p>
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		<title>By: eyelessgame</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/09/22/hero-of-the-day-origin-of-stupidity/#comment-180686</link>
		<dc:creator>eyelessgame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 15:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She&#039;s awesome. But don&#039;t take her advice and pick up the book - giving away books for free makes money for these people, by laundering nonprofit donations into profit: a for-profit owned by the ministers prints the books, or purchases them from a printer, and then the non-profit purchases them at a markup and gives them away for free.  It&#039;s a perfectly legal money laundering scam and most of the big-name &quot;give valuable stuff away for free&quot; ministers are doing some variant of it.

And if more people pick up the &quot;free&quot; stuff, they have an excuse to print more of it.

So don&#039;t take their &quot;free&quot; stuff - they&#039;re making money when you do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She&#8217;s awesome. But don&#8217;t take her advice and pick up the book &#8211; giving away books for free makes money for these people, by laundering nonprofit donations into profit: a for-profit owned by the ministers prints the books, or purchases them from a printer, and then the non-profit purchases them at a markup and gives them away for free.  It&#8217;s a perfectly legal money laundering scam and most of the big-name &#8220;give valuable stuff away for free&#8221; ministers are doing some variant of it.</p>
<p>And if more people pick up the &#8220;free&#8221; stuff, they have an excuse to print more of it.</p>
<p>So don&#8217;t take their &#8220;free&#8221; stuff &#8211; they&#8217;re making money when you do.</p>
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		<title>By: abanterer</title>
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		<dc:creator>abanterer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 00:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can recommend Mayr&#039;s &quot;What Evolution Is&quot; for anyone interested in the pure science angle. I&#039;d recommend &quot;Tower of Bable&#039; by Pennock for folks looking for more coverage of the creationsim/evolution debate - it&#039;s worn fairly well despite it being about a decade old, so it won&#039;t have anything on the Dover trial,m but it addresses ID pretty well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can recommend Mayr&#8217;s &#8220;What Evolution Is&#8221; for anyone interested in the pure science angle. I&#8217;d recommend &#8220;Tower of Bable&#8217; by Pennock for folks looking for more coverage of the creationsim/evolution debate &#8211; it&#8217;s worn fairly well despite it being about a decade old, so it won&#8217;t have anything on the Dover trial,m but it addresses ID pretty well.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/09/22/hero-of-the-day-origin-of-stupidity/#comment-180523</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 22:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take it up with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/09/16/acorn-murder-looks-like-cons-fell-for-another-one/#comment-179139&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Impy.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take it up with <a href="http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/09/16/acorn-murder-looks-like-cons-fell-for-another-one/#comment-179139" rel="nofollow">Impy.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/09/22/hero-of-the-day-origin-of-stupidity/#comment-180518</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 22:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You wanted us to comment on her &quot;hot&quot;-ness, and that&#039;s in no way a reference to her looks?  

Dude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You wanted us to comment on her &#8220;hot&#8221;-ness, and that&#8217;s in no way a reference to her looks?  </p>
<p>Dude.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/09/22/hero-of-the-day-origin-of-stupidity/#comment-180513</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 22:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I’m surprised that your first and only comment about her has to do with her looks,though, Quibbie.&lt;/em&gt;

Whose looks? I commented on no one&#039;s looks. I commented on previous comments by conservatives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I’m surprised that your first and only comment about her has to do with her looks,though, Quibbie.</em></p>
<p>Whose looks? I commented on no one&#8217;s looks. I commented on previous comments by conservatives.</p>
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		<title>By: Repack Rider</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/09/22/hero-of-the-day-origin-of-stupidity/#comment-180465</link>
		<dc:creator>Repack Rider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have read On the Origin of Species several times.  There is a reason Darwin was one of the greatest scientists, and why this is one of the greatest works of science.  It is a great work on every level, and everyone needs to have read it.

Darwin uses observations any of us can make, and leads to inescapable conclusions based on a body of evidence.  Creationists can&#039;t address it as a whole, so they pick and worry at phrases or punctuation or vocabulary.

The book speaks for itself.  Read it.  And creationists, weep.

Aside to O-Dub from an atheist who rarely discusses that subject.  You say that although you disagree with those who mock religion in general, you agree with those who mock a religious tradition with which you do not agree, i.e. creationism.

That is a slippery theological slope you are looking down with a statement like that.  As the saying goes, I believe in only one god fewer than you do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read On the Origin of Species several times.  There is a reason Darwin was one of the greatest scientists, and why this is one of the greatest works of science.  It is a great work on every level, and everyone needs to have read it.</p>
<p>Darwin uses observations any of us can make, and leads to inescapable conclusions based on a body of evidence.  Creationists can&#8217;t address it as a whole, so they pick and worry at phrases or punctuation or vocabulary.</p>
<p>The book speaks for itself.  Read it.  And creationists, weep.</p>
<p>Aside to O-Dub from an atheist who rarely discusses that subject.  You say that although you disagree with those who mock religion in general, you agree with those who mock a religious tradition with which you do not agree, i.e. creationism.</p>
<p>That is a slippery theological slope you are looking down with a statement like that.  As the saying goes, I believe in only one god fewer than you do.</p>
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		<title>By: Christina</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/09/22/hero-of-the-day-origin-of-stupidity/#comment-180448</link>
		<dc:creator>Christina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 18:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if I would trust any copy of &#039;Origin&#039; published by these guys.  They could have altered any part of the text slightly enough that no one would really notice, but enough that it could make the theories less plausible or comprehensible.  (Unfortunately, Darwin did enough of that himself by writing in that oh-so-verbose 19th century style where scientists had to use 3 times as many words as necessary to get the point across)

If I got ahold of a copy, I would bring it to my next bonfire party.  Book paper is usually good starter material.

This guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_W._Mayr  did a much better job of explaining the different parts of Darwin&#039;s theories.  If you really want to promote Darwin, buy yourself a copy of one of his books, and lend it out.  Or have your friends and family look up the 5 theories of Darwin themselves.  The Internet is a great thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if I would trust any copy of &#8216;Origin&#8217; published by these guys.  They could have altered any part of the text slightly enough that no one would really notice, but enough that it could make the theories less plausible or comprehensible.  (Unfortunately, Darwin did enough of that himself by writing in that oh-so-verbose 19th century style where scientists had to use 3 times as many words as necessary to get the point across)</p>
<p>If I got ahold of a copy, I would bring it to my next bonfire party.  Book paper is usually good starter material.</p>
<p>This guy: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_W._Mayr" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_W._Mayr</a>  did a much better job of explaining the different parts of Darwin&#8217;s theories.  If you really want to promote Darwin, buy yourself a copy of one of his books, and lend it out.  Or have your friends and family look up the 5 theories of Darwin themselves.  The Internet is a great thing.</p>
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		<title>By: liberalrob</title>
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		<dc:creator>liberalrob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like eye candy.  And her English is very good.</description>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/09/22/hero-of-the-day-origin-of-stupidity/#comment-180421</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You might want to check who&#039;s supplying that information, OW.  Sorry.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/19/media-matters-dishonest-editing-in-support-of-their-smear-argument-exposed/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Media Matters dishonest editing in support of their “smear” argument exposed&lt;/a&gt;

And that was dishonest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might want to check who&#8217;s supplying that information, OW.  Sorry.</p>
<p><a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2009/09/19/media-matters-dishonest-editing-in-support-of-their-smear-argument-exposed/" rel="nofollow">Media Matters dishonest editing in support of their “smear” argument exposed</a></p>
<p>And that was dishonest.</p>
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		<title>By: Parthenon</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/09/22/hero-of-the-day-origin-of-stupidity/#comment-180420</link>
		<dc:creator>Parthenon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anybody who enjoyed this (for reasons other than the eye candy aspect) would also enjoy &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/user/thunderf00t?blend=1&amp;ob=4&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Thunderfoot&lt;/a&gt; himself, the other youtuber she mentions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anybody who enjoyed this (for reasons other than the eye candy aspect) would also enjoy <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/thunderf00t?blend=1&amp;ob=4" rel="nofollow">Thunderfoot</a> himself, the other youtuber she mentions.</p>
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		<title>By: Oliver Willis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/09/22/hero-of-the-day-origin-of-stupidity/#comment-180418</link>
		<dc:creator>Oliver Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;single-handedly dismantles a corrupt organization&lt;/em&gt;
I bet the people walking in to their local ACORN offices today would be surprised that its been &quot;dismantle[d]&quot;.

Also, the $1,300 and a dream myth is &lt;a href=&quot;http://mediamatters.org/blog/200909220048&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;evaporating&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>single-handedly dismantles a corrupt organization</em><br />
I bet the people walking in to their local ACORN offices today would be surprised that its been &#8220;dismantle[d]&#8220;.</p>
<p>Also, the $1,300 and a dream myth is <a href="http://mediamatters.org/blog/200909220048" rel="nofollow">evaporating</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: PD100</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/09/22/hero-of-the-day-origin-of-stupidity/#comment-180410</link>
		<dc:creator>PD100</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;After she almost single-handedly dismantles a corrupt organization on a $1,300 budget and a hunch, maybe we’ll have more to say.&lt;/i&gt;

 Oh indeed, there is more to say about the ACORN brouhaha.
Text of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h3571/text&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;H.R.3571 - Defund ACORN Act&lt;/a&gt; with a nice little passage:
&quot;&lt;b&gt;Any&lt;/b&gt; organization that has filed a fraudulent form with any Federal or State regulatory agency.&quot;

  In other words, the language is broad enough so that any entity on the gubnit&#039; teat committing improprieties can get their funding yanked (and there&#039;s quite &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.contractormisconduct.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;an impressive list&lt;/a&gt;) all without the assistance of a 5th tier wingnut dressing like a whore.
  This may be the best case of wingnuts hitting themselves since Kenneth Gladney.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>After she almost single-handedly dismantles a corrupt organization on a $1,300 budget and a hunch, maybe we’ll have more to say.</i></p>
<p> Oh indeed, there is more to say about the ACORN brouhaha.<br />
Text of <a href="http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h3571/text" rel="nofollow">H.R.3571 &#8211; Defund ACORN Act</a> with a nice little passage:<br />
&#8220;<b>Any</b> organization that has filed a fraudulent form with any Federal or State regulatory agency.&#8221;</p>
<p>  In other words, the language is broad enough so that any entity on the gubnit&#8217; teat committing improprieties can get their funding yanked (and there&#8217;s quite <a href="http://www.contractormisconduct.org/" rel="nofollow">an impressive list</a>) all without the assistance of a 5th tier wingnut dressing like a whore.<br />
  This may be the best case of wingnuts hitting themselves since Kenneth Gladney.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/09/22/hero-of-the-day-origin-of-stupidity/#comment-180406</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Hello? Conservatives who were going all goofy over the “hot” ACORN madam?

Where’d you guys go?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

After she almost single-handedly dismantles a corrupt organization on a $1,300 budget and a hunch, maybe we&#039;ll have more to say.  I&#039;m surprised that your first and only comment about her has to do with her looks,though, Quibbie.  And that because a woman is attractive and her video shows up on a liberal blog that you wonder why we aren&#039;t here to comment on her looks?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Hello? Conservatives who were going all goofy over the “hot” ACORN madam?</p>
<p>Where’d you guys go?</p></blockquote>
<p>After she almost single-handedly dismantles a corrupt organization on a $1,300 budget and a hunch, maybe we&#8217;ll have more to say.  I&#8217;m surprised that your first and only comment about her has to do with her looks,though, Quibbie.  And that because a woman is attractive and her video shows up on a liberal blog that you wonder why we aren&#8217;t here to comment on her looks?</p>
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		<title>By: Wilbur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wilbur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My bad.  Romanian is also a lovely language, I understand.</description>
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		<title>By: jr</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/09/22/hero-of-the-day-origin-of-stupidity/#comment-180401</link>
		<dc:creator>jr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 12:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God hates guys with man perms like Kirk</description>
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		<title>By: icruise</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/09/22/hero-of-the-day-origin-of-stupidity/#comment-180375</link>
		<dc:creator>icruise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 06:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She is apparently Romanian.</description>
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		<title>By: Wilbur</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/09/22/hero-of-the-day-origin-of-stupidity/#comment-180369</link>
		<dc:creator>Wilbur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 05:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Makes me want to learn the Russian tongue.  

Horrorshow!</description>
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<p>Horrorshow!</p>
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		<title>By: Porlock Junior</title>
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		<dc:creator>Porlock Junior</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 05:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All that was old and stupid is new again, and even stupider.

They are republishing the Origin of Species, with an introduction that they&#039;ve written to show that it isn&#039;t really so? My oh my, that is exactly what a busybody added to Copernicus&#039;  book&lt;i&gt;De Revolutionibus&lt;/i&gt;, in which he said that the Earth moves -- but according to the preface, he really didn&#039;t mean it. &quot;Just a theory&quot;, sort of, but in that case just a convenient computing gimmick, not the Truth.

By 1616 things had heated up, so the Inquisition took the book out of circulation to make &quot;corrections&quot; to make it clear that Copernicus didn&#039;t really mean it.

Then they banned Galileo for 100 years, and then allowed his Dialogue to be published -- with corrections to explain that it wasn&#039;t really so!

What are we to make of this? Simple: these gormless bozos can&#039;t even think up their own stupidities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All that was old and stupid is new again, and even stupider.</p>
<p>They are republishing the Origin of Species, with an introduction that they&#8217;ve written to show that it isn&#8217;t really so? My oh my, that is exactly what a busybody added to Copernicus&#8217;  book<i>De Revolutionibus</i>, in which he said that the Earth moves &#8212; but according to the preface, he really didn&#8217;t mean it. &#8220;Just a theory&#8221;, sort of, but in that case just a convenient computing gimmick, not the Truth.</p>
<p>By 1616 things had heated up, so the Inquisition took the book out of circulation to make &#8220;corrections&#8221; to make it clear that Copernicus didn&#8217;t really mean it.</p>
<p>Then they banned Galileo for 100 years, and then allowed his Dialogue to be published &#8212; with corrections to explain that it wasn&#8217;t really so!</p>
<p>What are we to make of this? Simple: these gormless bozos can&#8217;t even think up their own stupidities.</p>
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