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		<title>By: mambochicken23</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/09/14/they-keep-pretending/#comment-178351</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Your braaaaaaaains are way too big for us.&quot;

/zombified</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Your braaaaaaaains are way too big for us.&#8221;</p>
<p>/zombified</p>
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		<title>By: Chris K.</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/09/14/they-keep-pretending/#comment-178221</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 07:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Crusty Dem 

&lt;blockquote&gt;
It’s usually a waste of time to protest an action. It’s &lt;b&gt;always&lt;/b&gt; a waste of time to protest a person.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So true.

I am sure that there are a considerable number of people who are angry at Obama for not being progressive enough, especialy with the financial system. Thus, healthcare reform is suffering because of that. He looks weak-minded and the type that just wants to furl around the edges of a problem instead of seizing the initiative in front of him.

But there are serious people within the GOP that believe a return to racism is the ticket.

Let&#039;s be clear, all that will do is two things:


Solidify their support in the South and MidWest; but alienate everywhere else.
Force the party to move harder to the right. Once, people thought Bobby Jindal could have taken the mantle. Now, they will only be able to push a white man who&#039;s ready, willing, and able to pander to every batshit demand they have. Except for Mitt Romney. No mormons.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Crusty Dem </p>
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It’s usually a waste of time to protest an action. It’s <b>always</b> a waste of time to protest a person.
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<p>So true.</p>
<p>I am sure that there are a considerable number of people who are angry at Obama for not being progressive enough, especialy with the financial system. Thus, healthcare reform is suffering because of that. He looks weak-minded and the type that just wants to furl around the edges of a problem instead of seizing the initiative in front of him.</p>
<p>But there are serious people within the GOP that believe a return to racism is the ticket.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s be clear, all that will do is two things:</p>
<p>Solidify their support in the South and MidWest; but alienate everywhere else.<br />
Force the party to move harder to the right. Once, people thought Bobby Jindal could have taken the mantle. Now, they will only be able to push a white man who&#8217;s ready, willing, and able to pander to every batshit demand they have. Except for Mitt Romney. No mormons.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaim</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/09/14/they-keep-pretending/#comment-178189</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 03:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The DC fire department estimated the crowd at 60,000-70,000, and the DC fire department does this kind of thing whenever there&#039;s a rally of some significance.

This pales in comparison to the anti-war rallies under Bush, and the pro-Obama rallies leading up to his victory/mandate from the American people.

Remember St. Louis?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/18/obama-rally-in-st-louis-d_n_135826.html

Or for that matter, the inauguration?

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/jan/21/nation/na-inaug-crowds21

But why bother counting the numbers at all?  As we all know, when George Bush was president all protests, especially the really big ones, were meaningless gestures made by the lunatic fringe of the Democratic party.

Why should we think of teabaggers any differently?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The DC fire department estimated the crowd at 60,000-70,000, and the DC fire department does this kind of thing whenever there&#8217;s a rally of some significance.</p>
<p>This pales in comparison to the anti-war rallies under Bush, and the pro-Obama rallies leading up to his victory/mandate from the American people.</p>
<p>Remember St. Louis?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/18/obama-rally-in-st-louis-d_n_135826.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/18/obama-rally-in-st-louis-d_n_135826.html</a></p>
<p>Or for that matter, the inauguration?</p>
<p><a href="http://articles.latimes.com/2009/jan/21/nation/na-inaug-crowds21" rel="nofollow">http://articles.latimes.com/2009/jan/21/nation/na-inaug-crowds21</a></p>
<p>But why bother counting the numbers at all?  As we all know, when George Bush was president all protests, especially the really big ones, were meaningless gestures made by the lunatic fringe of the Democratic party.</p>
<p>Why should we think of teabaggers any differently?</p>
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		<title>By: rip</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/09/14/they-keep-pretending/#comment-178184</link>
		<dc:creator>rip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 03:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The parents are waking up.&lt;/i&gt;

They woke up in 2008. It was the special needs children who came out to play on 9/12.
SaveFarris is right - they didn&#039;t vote for McCain - they voted for Sarah Palin.

No Republican running to unseat a Democrat in a close Congressional District will be anywhere near one of these teabag carnivals if they have any hope of winning next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The parents are waking up.</i></p>
<p>They woke up in 2008. It was the special needs children who came out to play on 9/12.<br />
SaveFarris is right &#8211; they didn&#8217;t vote for McCain &#8211; they voted for Sarah Palin.</p>
<p>No Republican running to unseat a Democrat in a close Congressional District will be anywhere near one of these teabag carnivals if they have any hope of winning next year.</p>
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		<title>By: PD100</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/09/14/they-keep-pretending/#comment-178180</link>
		<dc:creator>PD100</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 02:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;The left is starting on the path of selfdestruction, acorns recent implosion is a start.&lt;/i&gt;

Oh, quit showing off your ability to morph alliteration and abnormal botanical processes to us. Your brains are waaaay to big for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;The left is starting on the path of selfdestruction, acorns recent implosion is a start.</i></p>
<p>Oh, quit showing off your ability to morph alliteration and abnormal botanical processes to us. Your brains are waaaay to big for us.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/09/14/they-keep-pretending/#comment-178179</link>
		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 02:56:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;If 1,000,000 American citizens show up on your front door and tell you that you are fucking up, You had better listen!&lt;/em&gt;

And if a million people show up at your front door shouting random words like &quot;Birth certificate!&quot; &quot;Death panels!&quot; &quot;Socialism!&quot; just close the door and go back to whatever you were doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>If 1,000,000 American citizens show up on your front door and tell you that you are fucking up, You had better listen!</em></p>
<p>And if a million people show up at your front door shouting random words like &#8220;Birth certificate!&#8221; &#8220;Death panels!&#8221; &#8220;Socialism!&#8221; just close the door and go back to whatever you were doing.</p>
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		<title>By: krizriktr</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/09/14/they-keep-pretending/#comment-178172</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 02:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Second, the crowd was from all over the place (both geographically and ideologically).&quot;

That quote reminded me of this one from The Blues Brothers:

&quot;Elwood: What kind of music do you usually have here? 
Claire: Oh, we got both kinds. We got country *and* western.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Second, the crowd was from all over the place (both geographically and ideologically).&#8221;</p>
<p>That quote reminded me of this one from The Blues Brothers:</p>
<p>&#8220;Elwood: What kind of music do you usually have here?<br />
Claire: Oh, we got both kinds. We got country *and* western.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: JerseyGeorge</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/09/14/they-keep-pretending/#comment-178166</link>
		<dc:creator>JerseyGeorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 01:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It was a miserable failure. It will shrivel and then die on the vine. Sorry. But keep pretending if it makes you feel better.&quot;
 He he, Keep dreaming, its going to grow and all the while you&#039;ll deny it. It will shake out at close to 1,000,000 people in the end showing up for that &quot;miserable failure&quot;. If 1,000,000 American citizens show up on your front door and tell you that you are fucking up, You had better listen! For everyone that showed up there are more that could not who will continue to support it and after the success of this demonstration, there will be more.
 The left is starting on the path of selfdestruction, acorns recent implosion is a start. They can&#039;t help themselves for the left is like the kid in the candy store grabbing for everything for they know thier time is short. 
 The parents are waking up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It was a miserable failure. It will shrivel and then die on the vine. Sorry. But keep pretending if it makes you feel better.&#8221;<br />
 He he, Keep dreaming, its going to grow and all the while you&#8217;ll deny it. It will shake out at close to 1,000,000 people in the end showing up for that &#8220;miserable failure&#8221;. If 1,000,000 American citizens show up on your front door and tell you that you are fucking up, You had better listen! For everyone that showed up there are more that could not who will continue to support it and after the success of this demonstration, there will be more.<br />
 The left is starting on the path of selfdestruction, acorns recent implosion is a start. They can&#8217;t help themselves for the left is like the kid in the candy store grabbing for everything for they know thier time is short.<br />
 The parents are waking up.</p>
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		<title>By: Impaler</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/09/14/they-keep-pretending/#comment-178121</link>
		<dc:creator>Impaler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 22:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well not Republican enough, but here this maybe one in the same. LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well not Republican enough, but here this maybe one in the same. LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/09/14/they-keep-pretending/#comment-178117</link>
		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 22:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;They didn’t exactly vote for McCain. A lot of them stayed home in 2008 (and 2006 too.)&lt;/i&gt;

That&#039;s true! McCain was deemed not crazy enough for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>They didn’t exactly vote for McCain. A lot of them stayed home in 2008 (and 2006 too.)</i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s true! McCain was deemed not crazy enough for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Zython</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/09/14/they-keep-pretending/#comment-178104</link>
		<dc:creator>Zython</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 21:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Hold the phone ! The “teabaggers” are Republican and conservatives ?

They’re not Liverpudlian postal workers ? Or Patagonian fisherman?

Well, I’ll be durned.&lt;/i&gt;

Post that at Reason, not here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Hold the phone ! The “teabaggers” are Republican and conservatives ?</p>
<p>They’re not Liverpudlian postal workers ? Or Patagonian fisherman?</p>
<p>Well, I’ll be durned.</i></p>
<p>Post that at Reason, not here.</p>
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		<title>By: Burn</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/09/14/they-keep-pretending/#comment-178103</link>
		<dc:creator>Burn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 21:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;So Sayeth So Sayeth&lt;/i&gt;
  

It&#039;s like listening to a Weird Al Yankovic song.  The first time you hear it is mildly funny, the second time garners a lesser chuckle, by the third time you are over it.  By the fourth time, you shut the radio off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>So Sayeth So Sayeth</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s like listening to a Weird Al Yankovic song.  The first time you hear it is mildly funny, the second time garners a lesser chuckle, by the third time you are over it.  By the fourth time, you shut the radio off.</p>
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		<title>By: canadian bacon</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/09/14/they-keep-pretending/#comment-178102</link>
		<dc:creator>canadian bacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 21:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slayer- &quot;then Obama comes along, and Bam, over night, not protests. all of a sudden, they become war supporters.&quot;

Maybe because Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11?  Maybe because the Taliban gave (gives) protection to your real enemy, Bin Laden.  Just a crazy thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slayer- &#8220;then Obama comes along, and Bam, over night, not protests. all of a sudden, they become war supporters.&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe because Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11?  Maybe because the Taliban gave (gives) protection to your real enemy, Bin Laden.  Just a crazy thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Quaker in a Basement</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quaker in a Basement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 21:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;all of a sudden, they become war supporters&lt;/em&gt;

Who did?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>all of a sudden, they become war supporters</em></p>
<p>Who did?</p>
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		<title>By: SaveFarris</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/09/14/they-keep-pretending/#comment-178098</link>
		<dc:creator>SaveFarris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 21:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;It did happen, and the next day the overweight middle class losers all went back home after trashing the mall&lt;/i&gt;

&quot;Trashing&quot; being a &lt;a href=&quot;http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/09/clean-conservatives-filthy-liberals.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;relative&lt;/a&gt; term.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It did happen, and the next day the overweight middle class losers all went back home after trashing the mall</i></p>
<p>&#8220;Trashing&#8221; being a <a href="http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/09/clean-conservatives-filthy-liberals.html" rel="nofollow">relative</a> term.</p>
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		<title>By: Impaler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Impaler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 21:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris K. &quot;The anti-war crowd has been consistant&quot; well I think this another Freaky Friday moment (when democrats on one magical night became republicans), they were anti-Bush, anti-war, then Obama comes along, and Bam, over night, not protests. all of a sudden, they become war supporters.

So Sayeth the Democrat!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris K. &#8220;The anti-war crowd has been consistant&#8221; well I think this another Freaky Friday moment (when democrats on one magical night became republicans), they were anti-Bush, anti-war, then Obama comes along, and Bam, over night, not protests. all of a sudden, they become war supporters.</p>
<p>So Sayeth the Democrat!</p>
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		<title>By: Impaler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Impaler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 21:06:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry, Welcome to Obamaland, most of the people here are nice, so enjoy!

Jane get me off this crazy thing! - G.Jetson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry, Welcome to Obamaland, most of the people here are nice, so enjoy!</p>
<p>Jane get me off this crazy thing! &#8211; G.Jetson</p>
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		<title>By: Indeed</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indeed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I mean, who still throws around the word “Communist”?(Other than stupid old white teabaggers)&lt;/i&gt; 

It&#039;s a Lee Atwater Situation. Outside of the South Carolina Republican Party HQ, you can&#039;t yell &quot;Nigger, nigger, nigger!&quot; like you could in 1954, so they had to pick something. (Which is progress, but based on the Teabagger signage and interviews, just barely.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I mean, who still throws around the word “Communist”?(Other than stupid old white teabaggers)</i> </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a Lee Atwater Situation. Outside of the South Carolina Republican Party HQ, you can&#8217;t yell &#8220;Nigger, nigger, nigger!&#8221; like you could in 1954, so they had to pick something. (Which is progress, but based on the Teabagger signage and interviews, just barely.)</p>
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		<title>By: Burn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Burn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Oh, and as far as that gathering in DC, please continue to pretend it didn’t happen.&lt;/i&gt;

It did happen, and the next day the overweight middle class losers all went back home after trashing the mall to their boring mundane suburban lives, still cowering in fear over whatever Glen Beck tells them to.  In short, their little temper tantrum did nothing to advance their cause or sway indies and moderates.  If anything, they show their true colors and further marginalize themselves as the wacko but loud minority of a dying political demographic.


I mean, who still throws around the word &quot;Communist&quot;?(Other than stupid old white teabaggers)
Talk about out of touch.  This isn&#039;t 1959.  Do they think they are going to get young people into their ranks by using scary words from fifty years ago?  I love how they use all the old tired worn out slogans with lots of &#039;isms&#039;.
Maybe this is Michael Steele&#039;s version of being &#039;beyond cutting edge&#039;

After 6 months of having Fox News promote it non-stop, 60K people is a pretty weak turnout.  They couldn&#039;t even get a six figure sized crowd.  

Then again, the dummies who organized it probably should not have chosen the second week of NCAA football to have it.  

Because whether you are liberal or conservative, we all LOVES US SOME NCAA FOOTBALL 
DIE USC! 
DIE USC!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Oh, and as far as that gathering in DC, please continue to pretend it didn’t happen.</i></p>
<p>It did happen, and the next day the overweight middle class losers all went back home after trashing the mall to their boring mundane suburban lives, still cowering in fear over whatever Glen Beck tells them to.  In short, their little temper tantrum did nothing to advance their cause or sway indies and moderates.  If anything, they show their true colors and further marginalize themselves as the wacko but loud minority of a dying political demographic.</p>
<p>I mean, who still throws around the word &#8220;Communist&#8221;?(Other than stupid old white teabaggers)<br />
Talk about out of touch.  This isn&#8217;t 1959.  Do they think they are going to get young people into their ranks by using scary words from fifty years ago?  I love how they use all the old tired worn out slogans with lots of &#8216;isms&#8217;.<br />
Maybe this is Michael Steele&#8217;s version of being &#8216;beyond cutting edge&#8217;</p>
<p>After 6 months of having Fox News promote it non-stop, 60K people is a pretty weak turnout.  They couldn&#8217;t even get a six figure sized crowd.  </p>
<p>Then again, the dummies who organized it probably should not have chosen the second week of NCAA football to have it.  </p>
<p>Because whether you are liberal or conservative, we all LOVES US SOME NCAA FOOTBALL<br />
DIE USC!<br />
DIE USC!</p>
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		<title>By: canadian bacon</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/09/14/they-keep-pretending/#comment-178086</link>
		<dc:creator>canadian bacon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good photo essays - if the GOP win anything with that rag tag bunch of Beck bots, oh boy!!  Even Canada&#039;s not a far enough place to live.  I&#039;ll be moving back to my ancestral homeland, as soon as I find one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good photo essays &#8211; if the GOP win anything with that rag tag bunch of Beck bots, oh boy!!  Even Canada&#8217;s not a far enough place to live.  I&#8217;ll be moving back to my ancestral homeland, as soon as I find one.</p>
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