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Pat Buchanan, when he’s not pissed of that latina women are nominated to the supreme court or pushing pro-Hitler revisionist history, is writing columns lamenting the fact that people aren’t cheering confederate generals and instead praising people like Martin Luther King.
The Nixon administration is long over but Pat Buchanan is still an effing racist.
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The Nixon administration is long over but Pat Buchanan is still an effing racist.
The Southern Strategy has some unfortunately long coattails.
I do not recall Nixon being a racist, but can agree that Buchanan is a lunatic that just will not go away.
I do not recall Nixon being a racist,
Just how fucking old are you, anyway?
Why Pat Buchanan is still employed is a mystery of the ages.
It’s not especially important whether politicians themselves would push a black person to the back of the bus. It’s important whether the politician actively or tacitly supports policies or other politicians that seek to extend or maintain the legacies of slavery and forced segregation.
Measured that way, Richard Nixon is a huge racist.
I do not recall Nixon being a racist
Seriously dude. What the fuck? Go read Nixonland. Pronto.
Hey! The Dickster luvved him some Sammy Davis Jr.!
I just can’t understand why this country doesn’t honor those who led armed insurrections against it.
Yes, why is it that so many of us fail to celebrate treason as America’s Best Patriotism?
Pat’s got a good question. Why do we more celebrate a man who helped complete the project of U.S. democracy than a man tapped to lead the armies of a section of that nation as its leaders battled to rip the nation apart in order to keep its darker hued citizens enslaved? Oh, right.
As a native white Southerner, let me say, screw all this absurd Confederate nostalgia. Most of what we still see of its formal promotion (statues, state and local flags) was the product of 1920′s era Southern white supremacy campaigns (after approximately 10 million blacls had from the 1910′s fled out of the South’s Jim Crow hell, and 10 million whites had likewise fled the South to escape its undeveloped, poverty-stricken, pre-New Deal hell) or 1950′s & 1960′s anti-civil-rights reactions.
Pat’s just going back to bring as much of a weirdo Francoist, racist freak that he ever was, and he doesn’t grok why so few are as nostalgic as he is for such times as when his predilections were all the rage.
Opie, How did he push anyone to the back of the bus, look I thing the term racist is thrown around much too often, let me give you and example of two quotes by today’s politicians. And no I do not consider these people racists.
“I do not think it is an exaggeration at all to say to my friend from West Virginia [Sen. Robert C. Byrd, a former Ku Klux Klan recruiter] that he would have been a great senator at any moment. . . . He would have been right during the great conflict of civil war in this nation.”
–Sen. Christopher Dodd (D., Conn.), 2004
“I mean, you got the first mainstream African American [Barack Obama] who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice looking guy.”
-Sen. Joseph Biden Jr., 2008
Strategy, Southern. Look it up. Pronto. And read Nixonland. Pronto. (It’s really good, and you could stand the education.)
It took me all of two minutes to determine that Nixonland is incredibly biased , and might not even contain any real history — it is a screed that began with a point of view , then packed gobbledygook all around it to make it stand up.
An author who thinks that the conservative movement was dead in 1964 knows nothing about politics or history.
Indeed, thanks for the lead to expanding my extensive library, but a preliminary check of the author shows him to be not a historian, but a man trying to justify his leftist ideals, using radical revisionist principles. I will read it though, if only to gain what is going on in the authors mind. Thanks
Impaler, you got my comment EXACTLY backward. Congratulations. My point was that whether Nixon himself hated black people, was uncomfortable about them, whatever, or loved them like his own family is just not important relative to the policies he promoted or encouraged others to promote. And those policies – as part of the Southern Strategy – were racist as hell and makes Nixon functionally a racist. The same doesn’t apply to Dodd or Biden (whom I, like you, do not consider racists).
I really could not care less about his personal feelings about black people. He wasn’t America’s next door neighbor; he was America’s president.
Well, we know one thing for certain – Richard Nixon was one of the biggest anti-Semites to hold the office of President in our history. Period. That’s well documented, and all over the Nixon tapes.
In my experience, people who hate any minority group usually don’t stop at hating one.
Yes, Frank, the guy who read William Shirer’s book on Nazism (supposedly) but still repeated that Hitler was pro-socialist, even though in the first part of the book that lie is put to rest, is somehow telling us that Nixonland isn’t historically accurate. *Sigh*
Opie, I still fail even after research what racist policies he enacted while President? Here is what I do know as fact:
He established the Environmental Protection Agency, the Office of Minority Business Enterprise, Ended the War in Viet Nam, Opened relations with China, Endorsed an enlightened self-determination policy for Native Americans, and much more.
When Richard Nixon took office in 1969, 68 percent of black southern students attended (separate but equal schools) within 5 years that number had been reduced to 9 percent, and recently July 2009, Justice Ginsberg in an interview to New York Times Magazine credits President Nixon’s affirmative action policy for her career,”I was the first tenured woman at Columbia. That was 1972, every law school was looking for its woman. Why? Because Stan Pottinger, who was then head of the office for civil rights of the Department of Health, Education and Welfare, was enforcing the Nixon government contract program.”
Not to mention how he as a Senator, pushed hard for Civil Rights, this is hardly the career of a Racist, in fact he received 30 plus percent of the black vote against Kennedy.
So Opie “wheres the beef”.
If it ain’t white, it ain’t right.
- Pat Bitchchanan
Oliver, it is really amazing how you glide so easily from “Frank made a mistake (supposedly) in an apple orchard,” to “so he must be wrong about these orange trees.”
I wonder if Impaler (above) also believes Hitler was more collectivist, and [obviously] “big government”, than he was fascist , or even (absurdly) “conservative”.
Can you name a conservative principle that the Nazis espoused?
In my experience, people who hate any minority group usually don’t stop at hating one.
Neil, how many bigots do you know?
Does that apply to Christian – hating liberals? Who else do they hate?
Hi Frank, no Hitler was a socialist, he was just a National Socialist the difference is National Socialism believes in private property ownership, (not of commercial or industrial). The communist movement in the early stages of the Weimar republic believed in state ownership of everything, including personal property. The difference was really more cultural, communism in that time was an exported revolution, (Russia), and National Socialism was grown from within (Germany), but both espouse working for the common good of the collective. And no last time I checked there is no common platform between the Nazi’s or Conservatives. Conservatives believe in limited government and freedom. Definitely not Republican ideals.
There is my two cents.
Definitely not Republican ideals.
Or Democratic Party or liberal political ideals either.
Apparently we agree on something.
Mussolini redefined “national socialism” by specifically denying the core claim of any sort of Marxian socialism: conflict within societies of class versus class, of a bourgeoisie versus a proletariat.
Mussolini took this core notion and spun any literal analysis out of it and turned it into rallying metaphor.
Mussolini’s fascism held that there were no true class conflicts within nations, but that there were some nations which were proletarian (i.e., the newer and weaker capitalist states such as Italy and German) and those which were bourgeois (i.e., the older and more fully developed capitalist states of Britain and France).
Thus, the ‘class’ struggle was no longer between classes within a society, but between ‘proletarian’ and ‘bourgeois’ nations, and thus there needed to be ‘revolution’ in which the ‘proletarian’ nations overthrew the ruling ‘bourgeois’ nation order.
“Can you name a conservative principle that the Nazis espoused?”
Historically Conservatism was communitarian and never espoused that the individual was above the social. That was a Liberal ideal. Conservatives resisted the birth of the individual and of individual freedom; it was anti establishment and anti god. Modern conservatives don’t believe in freedom but believe in a medieval social order where everything and everybody should believe in the same principles, hence “we want our country back.”
Hitler was a racist communitarian where the individual was subsumed by/in the state. Differences were seen as evil and therefore he tried to eliminate what was different. He “took his country back.”
Conservative are confused about their origins. I’m not sure why.
The Social Democrats were the biggest opponents of the Nazi’s. The Conservatives were their biggest allies and helped pass the Enabling Act.
“Can you name a conservative principle that the Nazis espoused?”
Obedience to the Fuhrer no matter what. Basic principle of Nazism.
Basic principle of the GOP ca. 2001-2008.
Frank, when someone is wrong about so much then positions themself as an expert time and time and time and time and time and time again they must be called out.
Can you name a conservative principle that the Nazis espoused?
As others have noted, the slavish devotion to the dear leader no matter how many people have to die. I would also add the rule via violence, as well as valuing ignorance over knowledge. Is Nazism an extreme form of conservatism? Sure. But then we had Dick Cheney and George W. Bush.
Frank: Stay on topic. Yes or no: Do you agree with Buchanan’s points in the linked article?
Can you name a conservative principle that the Nazis espoused?
-jingoism
-militarism
-xenophobia
-ethnocentrism
-religious intolerance
-domestic surveillance
-expanded police powers
-we don’t need no stinkin habeas corpus
-horrible taste in art, architecture and music
Of course most of these are not principles of true conservatism, just of the modern American sociopathy that flatters itself by calling itself conservatism, i.e. the political “philosophy” espoused by frank and his fellow wingnut trolls here.
Hey Impaler, how come you no longer say “Thus saith the Impaler!” That was the best thing about your posts!
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Thought of a few more:
-antipathy to ideologically inconvenient science
-indoctrination rather than inculcation of critical faculties as the goal of education
-eschatological thinking
-hectoring moralism
-control of reproductive freedom
-homophobia
-racism
Oliver, hate to burst your bubble, I am a Conservative, and I still have family in Kiel Deutschland, you know nothing of the German people, their amazing contributions to science, Music, and the arts, and by the last statement you know less about conservatives, oh and “valuing ignorance over knowledge” Oliver please send me the study that puts teeth into this argument! I believe you need to read Sun Tzu’s art of war; this would be a good start for you. You must understand the enemy you are facing, if this is the path you want, then study, and learn tactics, and the tactics of your enemy, I finished this book and understood it at age 9. Ignorance is no way to win an argument, only cold hard facts and logic.
Still drinking.
Conservatives have no such slavish devotion, Hell even Martin Luther King was a Republican, and he was only a servant of G-D. The GOP has a proud tradition of independence, when a member of our party F*cks up we force him to resign, the Democrats on the other hand rally around in an obscene display of loyalty the likes of which I have never scene nor understand. Clinton, Rangel, Reid, oh and how about William Jefferson, 90,000 found in the freezer and the good ole boy network took care of him too. And what of ACORN, or DailyKos.com are these not blind Obamanites as well. Perhaps if you where to join me at a large Republican gathering, you would better understand whom you are up against. I will not tell them who you are, or who you work for, for I fear not hidden cameras or mics, but you must also keep my Identity a secret.
So Sayeth the Impaler!
Honor or Death!
Wilbur, frankly my fingers are getting tired, I thought of having my secretary do the blogging but someone has to work at my office. LOL, oh do you like the Honor or Death or to over the top?
Impaler, if you can confuse comments about Nazis with comments about “the German people”, it’s pretty solid proof that you understand nothing about the one or the other — Besonders wenn Sie haben Familie in Deutschland.
Honor and death? Flush it.
In fact, I think every one of your posts should contain nothing but “Thus spake the Impaler”. That would say it all. Save your typing fingers for filling out those job applications.
hate to burst your bubble, I am a Conservative
Just a day or two ago you were a centrist. What are you going to be tomorrow?
when a member of our party F*cks up we force him to resign
I’m sorry, what?
Seriously, what?
I would think this were true if your party ever admitted that a Republican had ever done anything to fuck up. No, all Republican fuck-ups were railroaded by liberal media, or by other outside factors determined to take down said Republican.
Please name for me these Republican fuck-ups that your party was swift to censure and push out of office. I’d love to hear your version of events.
Frank: Stay on topic. Yes or no: Do you agree with Buchanan’s points in the linked article?
Mr Buchanan has become quite histrionic – it might be a function of his age, or perhaps his longed for former position in the limelight (McLaughlin Group, Crossfire).
Do I believe that “[o]ne part of America loves her history, another reviles it as racist, imperialist and genocidal”? Indeed I do. (remember the “old dead white guys” meme? It’s still around).
Do I recall Robert E. Lee being one of our heroes? No, not at all.
Do I believe that “[w]e are not only more divided than ever on politics, faith and morality, but along the lines of class and ethnicity”? Yes, I do.
Is this really turning into “Is Martin Luther King, Jr. better than Robert E. Lee?”
That’s just silly.
“The GOP has a proud tradition of independence, when a member of our party F*cks up we force him to resign”
David Vitter, John Ensign, and Mark Sanford say hi.
Ken Calvert is another Republican who says hi (for those of you who don’t know what I’m talking about, read the “Personal” section of Calvert’s Wikipedia page).
Do I recall Robert E. Lee being one of our heroes? No, not at all.
Wilbur: Your departures from accuracy are mind-boggling. I am well aware of the existence of the Stone Mountain Memorial.
I visited it while it was being carved.
However, my statement was, “Do I recall Robert E. Lee as being one of our heroes?” Not in school, no. Not in the news, no. Not on television or radio, no. Not in the movies, no.
So I repeat, “Do I recall Robert E. Lee being one of our heroes? No, not at all.”
Conservatives have no such slavish devotion, Hell even Martin Luther King was a Republican
Ah, conflating “Conservative” with “Republican” again. Some things never change.
“The GOP has a proud tradition of independence, when a member of our party F*cks up we force him to resign”
George Allen, Jr. all but called a Democrat The N Word (and in the worst way). It was caught on film and in all the papers. This was in 2006. Why are you waiting to kick hm out of your party?
It is certainly clear that intellectual honesty is in short supply here in Ollie land. Ignorance however, is overstocked and readily available.
Ignorance however, is overstocked and readily available.
Which is why your presence is massively redundant, a.o.
I am well aware of the existence of the Stone Mountain Memorial….Do I recall Robert E. Lee being one of our heroes? No, not at all.
Your cognitive dissonance has me dizzy, Frank.
Wilbur: Your departures from accuracy are mind-boggling.
Such as?
Wilbur — let me clear this up: What do YOU mean by “our”?
you know nothing of the German people, their amazing contributions to science, Music, and the arts,
Not talking about the German people, talking about Nazis.
What Pat B. meant – the USofA’s, which last I checked included Jawja.
Wait a minute … So, when I say “our” , I must mean all 50 states, including Georgia?
As in, we had dinner , and enjoyed our dessert?
Or, as in, we went for a walk , and our clothes became soaked with rain?
Not gonna fly, Wilbur…
I was not including the 50 states in my “our”; I was only including the community to which I belong — Westchester County, outside of New York City — not everyone from here to Betelgeuse.
Well I don’t know what sort of librul edumacation you had up there in the leafy suburbs of NYC, Frank, but where I grew up, well above the Mason-Dixon line in Pennsyltucky, General Lee was roundly and generally admired.
I don’t know why we’re arguing about this, except that when you say bullshit like
Do I believe that “[o]ne part of America loves her history, another reviles it as racist, imperialist and genocidal”?
Your viewpoint might be similarly blinkered and parochial.
PS: I visited Stone Mt. while it was being carved too. Are you the guy who tried to butt in front of us at the cable car?
oops.
So, in that case , you should have said “We admired Robert E. Lee in our childhood”, and got off my case.
The problem with you guys is you try so hard to catch me being wrong, you usually miss the goddam point.
Yes, when you say idiot Rovesque, Bushesque, Atwateresque, Buchananesque (i.e. Republicanesque) bullshit like Do I believe that “[o]ne part of America loves her history, another reviles it as racist, imperialist and genocidal”? Indeed I do. It kind of makes me want to give you any sort of grief that comes to hand. If this country is being torn apart it is you and your ilk who are doing it, and since I love my country and it’s unique, incredible history, that puts me in a fighting mood.
Wilbur, I happen to believe that there are many people who feign historical expertise that “revile America as racist, imperialist and genocidal”. I and Pat Buchanan are not the only two people who believe this.
If you are not aware of this school of thought, that is one thing. If you think that this thinking is totally without support or documentation, you are entirely wrong.
Why my believing — with good reason — that there are well known writers, commentators*, and talking heads who disparage America, it’s history and its motives, should put you in “a fighting mood” is beyond me.
* For a tiny sample of what I am talking about, watch an episode of Bill Maher’s show.
I happen to believe that there are many people who feign historical expertise that “revile America as racist, imperialist and genocidal”. I and Pat Buchanan are not the only two people who believe this.
Yet these people have the same First Amendment rights you share with Mr. Buchanan to be wrong in public.
What a country!
Repack : I don’t recall saying about their First Amendment rights…
I don’t recall saying about their First Amendment rights…
You must be losing it. I said it, not you. Are you often this confused?
there are well known writers, commentators*, and talking heads who disparage America,
Pat Buchanan being prominent among them, but also Bill O’Reilly, Beck, Kristol, etc.
These people think that Americans should be so terrified of “terrorists” that we give up our rights. They don’t seem to understand that freedom is not the same as safety. Sometimes freedom costs lives because complete “safety” means giving up rights.
The best example of freedom trumping safety is the 2nd Amendment. Since 9/11 our freedom to own firearms has killed 40 times the number of Americans that died on that day, not at the hands of terrorists but at the hands of fellow American citizens. We have the highest gun death rate in the industrial world, but you don’t hear me or anyone else calling for repeal of the personal freedom that makes us the most dangerous industrial country in the world to live in.
I’m willing to accept that risk, and I will accept the risk that accompanies denying the government the ability to snoop mail or electronic communication without a warrant just because Bush says, “TARRIST!” I was willing to accept the risk of NOT invading Iraq, which as we know was the right decision.
These same “well known writers, commentators, and talking heads” say that the country that planned the Normandy Invasion and sent men to the moon using the computing power of a modern wristwatch can’t provide medical coverage for its citizens because IT’S TOO DIFFICULT. No wonder none of these pampered fools who never did a difficult thing in their lives, ever served in the military, which IS difficult.
I am disgusted by those treasonous conservative talking heads who say we should be cowards who fear terrorists, that we should invade sovereign nations that don’t threaten us, and that America can’t do hard stuff like providing medical care for its citizens.
In my business no one wants to hear that I can’t do the job, which is why I make the money I do. I think America CAN DO the job, no matter what Buchanan and the FNC fools say.
What say you? Do you agree with those wimps O’Reilly and Kristol that Americans can’t do challenging stuff, or are you the type who rises to a challenge?
Wow, a little drinking last night, and bam, all sort of replies, you people really need to get a hobby.
Wilber – Nazi party you where a member or else, The Nazi’s believed in gun control, (not the kind with a target), Socialized medicine, abortion, and that service to the Government was paramount, in fact here is a statement of the Nazi Platform you might find interesting. “It must be the first duty of every Citizen to carry out intellectual or physical work. Individual activity must not be harmful to the public interest and must be pursued within the framework of the community and for the general good.” Does this sound familiar? This could be pulled from one of your “Dear Leader’s” speeches. Oh and not to mention an Identifying symbol to show the unity of the common cause, and I believe we all know to what I am referring. So do you really want me to go on? As to which party compares best with the Nazis? We all know of which party truly looks like Nazi’s, and here is a hint, it’s not Republicans.
And Wilber as to my family, and Oliver’s statement, did you read what he wrote?
“I would also add the rule via violence, as well as valuing ignorance over knowledge. Is Nazism an extreme form of conservatism? Sure.”
So there you have it, Oliver is trying to make an argument that “unless you agree with me, then you are an uneducated Nazi”. So do I take offense yes but not why you may think, one if one studies the actual Nazi party, there is no comparison to Conservatives, but there are strong comparisons one could make to this “new” Democratic Party.
Now I am a Centrist and a Conservative, how is this possible, well I am not in favor of making Abortion illegal, just for reinstating the legal provisions of Roe vs. Wade, and so If you ask others in the Republican Party, I am a moderate. I am a Centrist for I believe in Constitutional law, as our founders (who compromised) wrote the document.
And as to filling out Job applications, I have a job, thanks. But for those of you looking removing the Obama/Biden sticker off of your car will make it easier to get hired, just a suggestion.
“Thus spake the Impaler” Hmmm a little to 16th century, I prefer the old English 8th century of mine, for I am Medieval.
But for those of you looking removing the Obama/Biden sticker off of your car will make it easier to get hired, just a suggestion.
You are an EMPLOYEE, so WTF do you know about what EMPLOYERS like me want? My employees have to be as smart as they are tough. Anyone with a McCain/Palin sticker has already flunked the written test. No one who has ever worked for me or will in the future voted for those clowns, because I demand a reasonable threshold of intelligence.
Just from what I have read here, there is nothing in the world you do well enough to have me pay you to do it. If you showed up at my office looking for work, I would be in serious danger of laughing myself to death.
Yea and what kind of company do own, a bike shop? LOL
Or maybe you make robots, like Obama.
From now on Repack Rider, I shall always think of you with as Bender!
Now I am a Centrist and a Conservative,
Can’t be both, Impy. Them’s mutually exclusive terms. The intersection set is null.
I prefer the old English 8th century of mine, for I am Medieval.
Clearly pre-Enlightenment.
Quaker, Centrist is the center, what our founders created is the baseline. I believe as stated, here and other posts, our Constitution is the foundation of my belief, what is not covered by the baseline (Centrist) to some I may go to the left on some issues and to the right on others, on taxes I am a Conservitive this does not have conflict with my baseline (Centrist) views. On Abortion, I believe in Choice for the mother for the first trimester, not a conservitive view, but again, does not conflict with my baseline views as a centrist.
So Sayeth the Impaler!
Hey Repack,
“Just from what I have read here, there is nothing in the world you do well enough to have me pay you to do it. If you showed up at my office looking for work, I would be in serious danger of laughing myself to death.”
I know that you are all impressed with yourself about being a piano mover. It is a good gig, you deserve credit for exploiting the niche.
But maybe you need to get over yourself a little bit. What you’re doing isn’t rocket science, there’s a million blue collar guys that can pull off your gig including myself and probably 1/3 of the guys I’ve ever worked with over the years. It’s low speed, low impact rigging, minimal amount of gear and a good insurance policy.
You’re smart enough I’d hire you but the crew would give you a pretty hard time once you started claiming you’d invented the mountain bike. The young ones could be fooled but the older ones grew up on stingrays and watched the whole thing evolve, first copying motocross with bmx bikes and then into what is now called a mountain bike.
So quit giving Frank a hard time about how he couldn’t hack it in your NASA grade outfit. You’re not really setting the bar very high. Rigging is a bit more challlenging when the objects are big, pianos aren’t.
what kind of company do own, a bike shop?
I used to, and I am a charter inductee to the Mountain Bike Hall of Fame. I am 63 years old and I guarantee that I can kick your ass on a bike.
I also published a magazine for 7 years, I wrote a book, and I worked as an editor for several other magazines. I found that freelance writing is a lot of fun, but it doesn’t pay very well.
Now I move pianos. Very heavy, expensive, delicate objects, some costing as much as my house, that I deliver into expensive homes that the owners do not care to see damaged. Check out my website photos.
The reason I get paid an hourly comparable to a psychiatrist or an attorney is because anyone can be a psychiatrist or an attorney, but statistically, about one person in 100,000 has the personal confidence (i.e. guts), leadership ability, intelligence and physical ability to do what I do. I’m even a little on the small side (6′ 190#) for the job, but I get it done.
My job is safe as any, because even if they quit making pianos tomorrow, there would be a lot of them left, and every day some of them have to be somewhere else. Plus I get to meet a lot of rock stars. They all own pianos.
Have you ever done anything interesting or difficult?
What you’re doing isn’t rocket science, there’s a million blue collar guys that can pull off your gig including myself and probably 1/3 of the guys I’ve ever worked with over the years. It’s low speed, low impact rigging, minimal amount of gear and a good insurance policy.
Let me know when you plan to move one, so I can come out with the crew, some beer, and the folding chairs.
Low speed is a luxury for people who don’t need to make money. If I took all day to move a piano, I wouldn’t get many of them moved. I did 11 pianos in one day last week, each of them had to go up at least one flight of stairs, and we still didn’t get into overtime.
The job pays me about $100/hr. If it was that easy, you would think a) more people would be able to do it and b) it wouldn’t pay so much.
Of course, I do more than move the pianos even though I am the key member of my crew. I also drive the truck, book the gigs, lead the crews, handle the accounting and payroll, answer the phone, form the plan for challenging operations, AND PAY FOR THE MISTAKES. I have only filed two insurance claims in the last twelve years.
I don’t know what you do, but when people find out what I do, they take a step back and say, “Whoa.” Does that happen to attorneys?
Repack,
LOL, you go ahead and bring a lunch. Way to go mentioning your hourly rate! $100.00/ hr is good money but it’s not huge money for running a show and crew.
11 pianos in one day without OT is moving a lot of pianos. But you’re cherrypicking. That’s less than 45 minutes a piano. That’s not enough time to just drive to the different sites in city traffic unless things are really breaking your way. So try bullshitting somebody that hasn’t had a few real world life experiences. I’m sure you and your crew would be faster than me and my crew…for the first few pianos. A weeks learning curve and I’d be willing to wager. On the other hand try moving a house or a ship. I’ll give you and your boys a weeks worth of practice and call you out. Don’t get me wrong, I’m impressed with your niche, just not as impressed as you are.
the crew would give you a pretty hard time once you started claiming you’d invented the mountain bike.
I never made that claim. As you pointed out, similar bikes were built in a lot of places, including France during the 1950s.
What I DID was put on the first regular schedule of competitive events, starting in 1976 with what has become a world championship discipline, downhill racing. I owned the first bike made from scratch for that purpose, and joined with two friends in 1979 to start the first company to sell those bikes. We called the company “MountainBikes.” After the trademark attorney screwed up my application to trademark the name, everyone else started using the term, so we named the sport.
I also published the first magazine for mountain bikers, I was a charter member of the first sanctioning body for the sport (National Off-Road Bicycle Association or NORBA) and in 1983 I wrote the rules used ever since then in international mountain bike racing, including the Olympic Games. I’m featured in a prize-winning documentary about the history of mountain biking. Check out “Klunkerz.
We didn’t invent the bikes. We invented the sport. There was no such thing as “downhill off-road bicycle racing” until I started putting on those events over 30 years ago. Now the high school where my daughter recently graduated has a mountain bike team, as does every HS in the county, and it is the most popular sport there with 60 riders of both sexes out of 1100 students.
Although I don’t work in the industry any more, I ride some great bikes these days, and I do NOT have to pay for them.
My name is Charlie Kelly. Google that with the word “bike” and then tell me what you did that was as interesting or influential.
11 pianos in one day without OT is moving a lot of pianos. But you’re cherrypicking. That’s less than 45 minutes a piano.
Eight of those were on the campus of a school that had recently remodeled the music building, so they didn’t have to go into the truck, but they did have to go across the campus and up the stairs. Anybody can drive, but that’s not what they pay me for.
So try bullshitting somebody that hasn’t had a few real world life experiences.
I would have to take lessons for that. Do you give them?
Repack Rider: I was moving 1000′s of pounds a day 40 years ago, when you were trying to fuck your high school’s ugliest cheerleader.
Sorry I didn’t stay young for you. You’ll certainly never mature for me.
As to your preposterous proposition, the little I know of O’Reilly and Beck is that they have more faith in this country than the Obamassiah, who thinks we all wake up, wondering when he’s gonna turn the sun on.
Two fuck wads and counting.
LOL,
Is everything a contest where you are determined to be # 1? Again you’re a good exploiter of niches. I haven’t got in on the ground floor of promoting a new sport. But my ski bud has, google up Rawles and mogul skiing. He’s the current US coach and used to own the pro tour with his brothers.
The most interesting thing to me that I’ve done is commercial fishing in AK. A glorius way to make a living. A couple guys going places no one else ever goes, seeing thing no one else ever sees and doing things no one else outside of the fraternity can do. But I don’t think of it as a life contest with me as # 1. But you’d be terrified in conditions we’d find boring.
LOL Repack,
You don’t need lessons on bullshitting the easily impressed. You’re a natural.
Ah, the good ole days of only having to move 11 pianos a day, my father used to make the whole family move pianos, we used to have to get up 2 hours before we went to sleep!, Then lick the trucks clean before dawn, ah if only we could have gotten away with only 11 pianos a day.
Sorry, Bender I am a big Monty Python fan….thought you could use the laugh.
So Bender, is the Fairfax movie theater still open?
Oh and my high school use to trash Tam at track.
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