Shaun Conley Of Conley Plumbing In Johnstown Colorado decided to leave a racist, threatening message on my blog. Here is the message plumber Shaun Conley Of Conley Plumbing In Johnstown Colorado left:
The socialists will pull the first trigger. We rightwing extremists will pull the last.
Signed,
Bitter Clinger.PS: Massa Obama must be proud to know that the slaves on his government plantation are so devoted. ding-ding-ding. Uh oh! Massa O is calling! You’d better step-n-fetchit, bootlick.
(here’s a screenshot of the message Conley left)
You can contact Shaun Conley Of Conley Plumbing In Johnstown Colorado at sconley@mywdo.com. Or you can contact racist thug Shaun Conley Of Conley Plumbing in Johnstown, Colorado at:
419 Hawthorne Ave
Johnstown,CO80534
970-567-0698
Not surprisingly Shaun Conley is listed as a Tea Party event coordinator for “1776 Tea Party” in Colorado.
And here’s Shaun Conley – who sent me a racist threat – discussing his role in organizing a tea party protest in Colorado:
Shaun Conley, a Johnstown plumber, took on the task of organizing that peaceful protest, which will be at Bittersweet Park, 16th Street and 35th Avenue, from 11 a.m.-2 p.m., with the help of Pelzer and others.
“I wouldn’t say I organized anything. I’m just a cog in the wheel that got this started,” said Conley, 41. It got started when news of the stimulus packages came out, and when those packages reached $1 trillion, Conley couldn’t stand it any longer.
“We don’t have $1 trillion,” Conley said, but he really became agitated when he learned the federal government intended to go ahead and print the money.
“That’s just going to lead to double-digit inflation,” he said. When he learned of the American Family Association’s movement, he contacted the group to get some information and ended up becoming an organizer. He originally planned for perhaps 250 to 500, but he said the event has drawn interest from all over and could reach 1,000 or more.
Here’s Shaun Conley again:
“People are absolutely beside themselves with the spending and taxation,” said Conley, 41, who built a house and moved here from Loveland more than six years ago. “You can’t spend your way to prosperity, and you can’t borrow your way out of debt. That’s what we’re trying to fight as a group.”
He’s beyond disgusting. I hope his kidneys and his business fail.
2 + 2 = 4
In his community, he’s what you call an overachiever. Just look at that proud expression on that pucker. Not only that, he looks like he’s showing us that he’s potty trained, too.
Shaun Conley of Conley Plumbing in Johnstown, Colorado – I wonder if he’s on Angie’s List or Yahoo Local etc.
I’m surprised he wasn’t peddling that message over the course of the previous administration. Or “You can’t occupy countries to make them democracies” or “War does not equal peace”
Wow. What a pathetic human being he is.
Do you think he offers health care to his employees? Or are they supposed to suck it up too and do whatever it is these nut jobs think the working poor should do when sick?
But, nooooo, they’re not racists at all! For that matter, they’re not cowards either.
Nobody cares if all these rednecks die. The entire GOP is a bunch of racists homophobes. They should do us all a favor and rid of country of themselves so we don’t have to.
Not cool, Shaun. This is why we don’t take you guys seriously.
I’m sorry Oliver, but you need to post the evidence, at least a redacted version.
Posting his address and everything about him means that essentially he will be villified via letters and/or emails and/or phone calls.
To do that to someone you should offer the instance where he has done this. Otherwise you enter into a dangerous realm here where you out someone withbut providing any substantial reason for it.
This is just getting into uncomfortable territory.
To be clear, you posted the text, but you didn’t post where he put it, what time, etc.
People need to know if he actually did it versus this being a stunt of some kind.
The evidence is right in the blockquote right above. in case you’re skeptical, I added a screenshot of the message in my CMS.
Is he actually a plumber?
Just corrected myself…
Oliver,
I see. I am sorry to see this. Thanks for providing the image. It’s a terrible shame this happens.
I recommend sending a strong typed note to that address. Sometimes people think the internet means a safe haven for garbage where anything (including personal threats) goes. Lines need to be drawn…
Hope this is the end of that.
Regards,
Chris K.
Yeah, I have to admit I’m not a fan of stooping to Malkin-levels of internet revenge. Then again, racist threats are nothing to sneeze at. You might have just let him know you had his contact info, and you’d be ready to publish it if you got another threat.
I just don’t know anymore. The Obama election has made these people lose their fool heads.
FYI all the information I found was via Google. I didn’t do anything particularly in depth. This is more a testament to the stupidity of signing a threat with your real email address.
If someone is already vile, can he really be “vilified”?
Let this expose him and every teabagger and racist Republican for what they are.
They cannot hide in the shadows. We overturn the rocks they crawl under.
They cannot run and they cannot hide.
Jacob, if a liberal threatened Malkin on her own blog, I’d be fine with her publishing identifying information. Or even for less, like the ones that mix in racism and sexism (e.g., very uncool shit about ping-pong balls, bukkake videos, etc.) with totally justified execration of her noxious views. Though I don’t think any lefties are dumb enough to post that kind of thing on Malkin’s own site unless they are very careful about covering their tracks.
Malkin publishes identifying info for people who have never stepped to her, but for whom she has a hate-on just because of something they said publicly. It’s really quite different.
At least he had the guts to leave *some* kind of information.
What is the deal with plumbers? Suddenly plumbers have step into the fore as a leading political voice. (not that there is anything wrong with it)
I guess Joe The Plumber has emboldened plumbers everywhere to unite. This guy Shaun and the guy in Silt, Co. who objected to the bare-bottom mountain climbing statue–he was a plumber aw well.
Plumbing the depths of crazy perhaps?
Ah, Amused Observer’s kind of guy. KKKlassy.
Good points, KTH.
Flame on. May his servers burn in racist hell along with him.
Shaun the Racist Teabagging Plumber may be a douche, but Oliver, why are you publishing his address and phone number? You’re stooping to his level.
If you feel like he’s threatening you, call the police and give them the proof.
I’m stooping to his level by using the Google? Think not.
He’s a plumber. Someone send him sacks of raw shit.
First, I am struggling to find a definition of racism such that his message is racist. Using the plantation metaphor with the rest of us as slaves to a black slave master, while a dubious analogy, and one which clearly makes race based distintions, doesn’t really assert that one race is superior to another, or that it should be.
Second, I don’t think that publishing information is a good thing. This douchebag will reap his own karmic reward.
Finally, I don’t think we should respond every time a right winger makes a thinly veiled threat about gun violence. He posits that liberals will start shooting and that right wingers will shoot us dead. That’s not specific to Oliver, and frankly I think it just feeds their anger.
Often the best thing to do with fools is pay them no mind.
At least we know where this azzhole stands on his thoughts on race. He’s more honest than the other wingnuts.
The guy is filth and you are not stooping to his level, but you are doing a bit more than using teh google. You are, by showing his digits, making a suggestion. Oh well.
You are, by showing his digits, making a suggestion
Please explain. Put his email address into Google. Tell me what you see.
how the hell is that racist?
Shaun the plumber? A real plumber! Call Palin!
“This is more a testament to the stupidity of signing a threat with your real email address.”
Oliver, please don’t give them ideas.
Oliver, you did the right thing by posting the information you found via Google – too bad if a racist is upset about having his racism tied to his RL persona. Actions have consequences.
I went through a similar situation when I was actively blogging last year. I managed to find out the real identity of a guy who posted at both No Quarter and Hillary is 44 who had called Michelle Obama a “blow job queen,” among other things.
Found him in RL because he was dumb enough to publish the identical essay – which got linked by HillaryClinton.com, BTW – under one of his blog names, and also in a letter to the editor under his real name. So yeah, I outed him.
He contacted me after the primaries were over – along with SusanUnPC from No Quarter (Larry Johnson was cc’d) – asking me to take down the post because he was looking for a job and my blog post was the 1st result when you Googled his name (just checked, and it still is, heh). So he had already been turned down for a couple of jobs and one of them mentioned that they’d Googled him. Apparently, I was supposed to feel bad about that.
I replied to him and copied both SusanUNPC & Larry Johnson with the offer to take down the post with his name if he published (on No Quarter) an apology for the things he’d written about the Obamas.
No response from any of them, so I feel no remorse whatsoever. And neither should you.
Oh man “Butt Crack Revolution”
We’re all in deep shit now!
I suspect he’ll be on Hannity’s great american plumbers’ panel any day now.
Good on you for publishing his info. Those types of threats need to be out in the open for the world to witness.
I’m telling you, its the lead in those brass fittings or the plasticizers in the plastic pipes.
Surely, saying that one race is superior to another is not required in order to qualify a statement as racist. An admitted “rightwing extremist” sneeringly evoking slave imagery and threatening violence in an email to a black blogger is pretty much the epitome of racism. All he’s missing is the white hood.
@Wonk – Good for you, and fugg him. I honestly think that folks should be held accountable for their actions, and that individual thought he could get away with it.
Now regarding this Shaun person, I personally will not get in touch with him because everybody should be privy as to what folks should say to him. Plus, I have a tendency of talking about disembowelment whenever I get pissed off. I don’t know why I do that, as the act itself is disgusting and smelly (I imagine).
Nick: “Second, I don’t think that publishing information is a good thing. This douchebag will reap his own karmic reward.”
Question. What if Oliver posting this information is part of this “karmic reward” you speak of?
Second question. What if you don’t believe in karma? I sure as hell don’t.
Haven’t I seen that guy starring in the Wallace and Gromit movies?
Forty comments and not a troll in sight? This can’t be right. I must have taken a wrong turn and ended up in oliverwilson.com.
Oh wait, there’s one. Missed count busy.
“Second question. What if you don’t believe in karma? I sure as hell don’t.”
My character determines my behavior, and most of what happens in my life is as a result of my behavior. There are some apparently random benefits and sufferings that get dropped unearned into every life, but the part I have some control over is my behavior.
If I cultivate my anger and hatred, I will act in conformity therewith, and people will respond. Anger and hatred bring their own, karmic rewards.
And if I respond to vitriol with anger and hatred, that just keeps feeding fuel into my own (karmic) payback machine.
“Leave Swaun Conley alone!”-Greta Van Susteren
Will OW be demonized on O’Reilly for this?
Nick, what option do you suggest in these troubled times? Turn the other cheek? Serious question.
“Nick, what option do you suggest in these troubled times? Turn the other cheek? Serious question.”
As a lapsed Catholic and long time atheist, ironically, yes. I think the Sermon on the Mount is an essential liberal moral doctrine. I think liberals are attracted to the Sermon on the Mount or similar moral philosophies, and conservatives to a hierarchical based morality wherein an angry Old Testament God demands obeisance—or else.
I also draw my morality from Buddhism–and it emphasizes that we should cultivate our lives in a peaceful manner, avoiding harm and anger. I think that fits well with the Sermon on the Mount, and I agree with Nietzsche that it is a path for psychological hygiene.
I have to confess my anger and rage over the past 8 years, and have gradually been moving to diminish the feeling by not acting out on the anger. I think we have to confront people in as loving a manner as we can muster (and I am an angry fucker), and avoid giving vent to our passions.
BTW, I am aware that many people consider the precepts of the Sermon on the Mount to be an impossible code of conduct. I’m still working that out.
“This is more a testament to the stupidity of signing a threat with your real email address.”
I think it’s a testament to his arrogance; in his mind, he’s untouchable because deep inside he still thinks the civil rights movement never happened and he also thinks that everybody will agree with the expressed sentiment. Stupid people are alot smarter than that.
I think liberals are attracted to the Sermon on the Mount or similar moral philosophies, and conservatives to a hierarchical based morality wherein an angry Old Testament God demands obeisance—or else.
You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. Stick with Buddhism.
In this entire thread its funny that its the theology you choose to tackle. Hehehe.
Separated at birth?
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No? How about this?
Bah! No images!
It’s just his personal beliefs. I think that’s still allowed.
OW: Put his email address into Google. Tell me what you see.
Well, the very first link is to some blog site here.
canadian bacon: It’s just his personal beliefs. I think that’s still allowed.
Don’t think I’ve seen anyone on the thread say he can’t have those beliefs, or speak them.
Just that he’s responsible for what he says.
Stay classy, Republicans.
Fair enough.
Wow, this thread has been relatively civilized, despite its subject!
Nick: you refer to profound questions; if it helps any, in some martial arts (most obviously Aikido) one learns to neutralize or reverse an attack by (sometimes literally) turning the other cheek.
On behalf of all the non-wingnuts in Colorado I would like to apologize.
Johnstown is a little bump in the road north of Denver best known for a truck stop which allegedly sells great cinnamon buns.
Twenty and 30 years ago Colorado attracted a lot of back-to-the-land types who wanted a refuge from urban living. The back-to-the-landers who came out here were more of the libertarian-redneck-hippie type. You can’t really live off the land in Colorado since the soil is rock and the growing season short.
There are a few well-known small towns (Johnstown, Dacono, Ward, etc.) located relatively close to the Front Range urban centers filled with city refugees. They aren’t really people who got sick of the rat race as much as they are urban failures who think living 60 miles from Denver is sticking it to the man.
I’m not surprised at all that this environment fosters insular racism. It also isn’t representative of the state as a whole. These places aren’t really in the mountains and aren’t really in the city they’re kind of in between. People living there can fantasize about their resiliency and rugged individualism without actually having to be resilient, rugged individuals.
Want an eye-opener? Browse through the Denver Post’s comment sections where an article about a new park in Denver can turn into a rant-fest about illegals destroying this country. Sometimes it seems they go straight from FreeRepublic to the Denver Post. The Post’s comment section has gotten much worse since the demise of the Rocky Mountain News. The Post makes some attempt to register users and moderate the comments whereas the Rocky was a Freeper friendly free-for-all.
Like I said, I apologize and not everyone in Colorado, whether they live in the cities or the mountains, is a lunatic. We actually have a few conservatives who aren’t batshit crazy.
Wow Jay. I’m actually impressed.
Out of all the resident wingers on Odub, you’ve posted without defending this nutt.
“You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. Stick with Buddhism.” [referring to the religious beliefs of liberals and conservatives and the Sermon on the Mount].
After 9/11, liberals looked for explanations for why were were attacked, and the liberal answers always involved an analysis of blowback–American imperialism, support for Israel, troops in Saudi Arabia). The liberal analysis took as a predicate that people respond or react to the behavior of others, and that it was our bad behavior which drew the attacks of 9/11. Our behavior was deemed bad because it reflected materialistic greed which harmed other people.
The right wing response was “You hate America” etc.
Moreover, the right wing analysis of the cause for 9/11 was usually some variation of Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell decrying evil in the world. Robertson and Falwell claimed that God had dropped his protection of America because of gays and lesbians and abortion and the whole liberal culture. George Bush simply called them evil doers, and apparently stated that God told him to invade Iraq. Hence my claim that right wingers have a religious and moral view based on the idea that God will punish you if you disobey his (often Old Testament law).
This is the difference between liberal and conservative understandings of how the world works, and what it means to be moral in the world.
You can look past his white plumbing pick-up truck and right into the guy’s garage via Google Maps.
On the other hand, here is what I think is probably a pretty good opinion by Tristero of how to deal with movement conservatives like Mr. Conley.
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2009/09/real-dialogue-by-tristero-catherine-in.html
“On behalf of all the non-wingnuts in Colorado I would like to apologize.”
Don’t apologize, start a boycott.
“blowback–American imperialism”
Osama bin Laden and his followers received lots of cash and weapons from the US via the CIA. It’s a fact. Granted, we weren’t planning on making a terrorist monster. We wanted to thwart the Soviets. But we also created said terrorist monster.
9/11 was terrible, but it was also preventable. Bush had access to information, including a memo entitled “BIN LADEN DETERMINED TO STRIKE WITHIN US.” So feel free to keep lying to yourself, but I’ve never met a liberal who blamed the US for 9/11. Personally, I blame the Bush administration for dropping the ball so badly.
Oliver,
Wow. That’s bad. His comments are totally asinine and you were undeserving of that hostility.
I’m not a regular reader of your blog…I linked here from a Twitter post of another blogger that I read. I’m actually a conservative, though I read a few blogs written by people who have different political views (though the blogs themselves are not political). I just hate how some people are so quick to assume that all conservatives are like this man (and vise versa, conservatives are quick to assume that all liberals are alike too). It’s really sad. How will we find any unity?
Jenny
9/11 was terrible, but it was also preventable. Bush had access to information, including a memo entitled “BIN LADEN DETERMINED TO STRIKE WITHIN US.” So feel free to keep lying to yourself, but I’ve never met a liberal who blamed the US for 9/11. Personally, I blame the Bush administration for dropping the ball so badly.
If a bank gets robbed and the security guard was asleep, who robbed the bank? Who’s fault is it that the bank got robbed?
“9/11 was terrible, but it was also preventable. Bush had access to information, including a memo entitled “BIN LADEN DETERMINED TO STRIKE WITHIN US.” So feel free to keep lying to yourself, but I’ve never met a liberal who blamed the US for 9/11. Personally, I blame the Bush administration for dropping the ball so badly.”
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Where is the acknowledgement that this was not a “cowardly” attack on “civilization” or “liberty” or “humanity” or “the free world” but an attack on the world’s self-proclaimed super-power, undertaken as a consequence of specific American alliances and actions?
http://groups.colgate.edu/aarislam/susan.htm
Chalmers Johnson in Nemesis:
http://books.google.com/books?id=tSrKgv8UIBsC&pg=PR12&lpg=PR12&dq=blowback++9/11+Chalmers+Johnson&source=bl&ots=WxVa9047VE&sig=IPsKtzouBCKg7_TVhzqrA1ShN-Y&hl=en&ei=HA2nSoWROoSCMqTR0JIC&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4#v=onepage&q=&f=false
Ward Churchill.
To name a few who asserted the 9/11 attacks were a response to American foreign policy, a foreign policy predicated on materialism, which in turn is diametrically opposed to the sentiments expressed in the Sermon on the Mount (if a man asks for your cloak, give it to him).
The robbers robbed the bank, and it it’s partly the security guard’s fault. If he was doing his job, it might not have got robbed.
The security guard’s. Especially if he has a note saying “BANK ROBBER DETERMINED TO ROB THIS BANK TODAY.”
Uh, the security guard?
I can only speak for myself. I never blamed America for 9/11. I blame the Bush administration for allowing it to happen. And for failing to kill OBL afterward.
And if something similar happens under Obama’s watch, I’d blame him.
I thought you wing-nuts were the party of personal responsibility? What a complete fucking joke you and your dying party are.
The first quote was Susan Sontag. Of course she was condemned for being anti-American. Churchill was memorably vilified.
Jaim
September 8, 2009 at 10:12 pm
I can only speak for myself. I never blamed America for 9/11.
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Didn’t you bother to ask why America was attacked, and not Norway? They have tall buildings there too, and people who have similar freedoms to those we enjoy.
We were attacked as a response to our foreign policy. Even many conservatives now admit that, including Ron Paul and Secretary Gates. In large part it was a moral indictment of American foreign policy.
Religious right wingers could not tolerate the idea that the basis for their morality could be wrong. Hence, it was abortion and gays and the ACLU that caused 9/11, and definitely not blowback for our foreign policies.
Not really seeing any racism there. he just thinks your an idiot, I don’t think it has anything to do with race.
Meanwhile, in a storage unit not too far from Harlem, Frank Di Salle works into the night on his Matrix Zion-style APU, using scrap metal, lumber, bits of gilbert erector sets and salvaged plumbing supplies.
Rick, you don’t see “massa” as racist?
I think “2+2=4″ is simply being used here as the grade-school equivalent of “A is A”.
Wilfredo
September 9, 2009 at 1:22 am
Rick, you don’t see “massa” as racist?
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Not when Obama is the massa, and the rest of us are his government plantation slaves–black, white, latino, asian, etc.
However, I do think that at best it shows a callous disregard for our history of slavery and racism, and that from that callous disregard people are inferring a racist intent.
“Racism is the belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.” [Wikipedia]
Republicans oddly don’t recognize that their party has capitalized on racist sentiment for political gain (the Southern Strategy), and thus don’t recognize that individually they are guilty of supporting a political party which has contributed to the maintenance of institutional racism.
But I also don’t see Conley’s statement as being inherently racist.
Um, the guy told OW, who is black, to “step-n-fetchit”. That’s racist.
This guy is a racist, no doubt, but, Um, does this mean that calling all well-known black conservatives “minstrel toadies”, which OW does regularly, is racist too, Buffalopundit?
Please explain, popular blogger.
I’ve used a lot of terms to describe the shuck and jive of conservative blacks, but “minstreal toadies”? Don’t thnk I’ve ever said such a thing.
Pretty sure you called Juan Williams that one time, OW. Look, I don’t think you’re a racist, but the logic used by many posters here to call conservatives racists applies to the same things you use to depict black conservatives, is all I’m saying.
Buffalopundit
September 9, 2009 at 10:22 am
Um, the guy told OW, who is black, to “step-n-fetchit”. That’s racist.
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Buffalopundit
September 9, 2009 at 10:22 am
Um, the guy told OW, who is black, to “step-n-fetchit”. That’s racist.
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I didn’t read the original post and didn’t see (until now) that it was addressed specifically to Oliver. The language made it sound as if he was addressing all of us slaves on Massa Obama’s government owned plantation.
So yes, telling a black man to step-n-fetchit is racist, in that it tells him to adopt the role of a racial stereotype.
Dennis
September 9, 2009 at 11:43 am
Look, I don’t think you’re a racist, but the logic used by many posters here to call conservatives racists applies to the same things you use to depict black conservatives, is all I’m saying.
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Republicans often accuse Democrats of being baby killers, suggesting that by supporting the Democratic party, we are responsible for abortions by keeping them legal. In honesty I have to accept that I have a moral responsibility for abortion being legal–I knowingly support a party which has legal abortion as a major plank in its platform.
On the other hand, Republicans have to take responsibility for the fact that their party has promoted race based fears, to the detriment of a historically oppressed racial minority, for political gain. In doing so they have buttressed the framework of racism in our nation. They should be held as responsible for the tactics and goals of their party as Democrats are for theirs.
It astonishes me that people who hector us on the virtues of personal responsibility so frequently avoid taking responsibility for their own acts.
Nick, perhaps in your enlightened world “massa” is not racist, but in mine, where actual bigots exist, “massa” and “step-n-fechit” is.
I’m only sorry I can’t seem to use the italics on my PC.
Dennis at 10:47 am:
does this mean that calling all well-known black conservatives “minstrel toadies”, which OW does regularly, is racist too, Buffalopundit?
And one hour later:
Pretty sure you called Juan Williams that one time, OW.
Funny how concern troll’s accusations shift when called out, isn’t it? You do this all the time to everybody! Really? Well, I think maybe you did it once to one guy, but I can’t point out when or where.
Pretty sure you called Juan Williams that one time, OW.
Hmmm. And I’m pretty sure you’re full of bullshit! Actually, I’m sure of it. I’ve never used such a phrase. When I insult people, I do it with a little panache.
Ok, I don’t see where you used the words ‘minstrel toadies’ together, but you have called several people minstrels, all black conservatives actually. And if toadies wasn’t the term you used, and I apologize for saying you said it, but the definition of the term as a sycophant or a pawn definitely applied to your use of it.
Here,,just one of many examples of the minstrel term.
Can you comprehend the idea that a black american may have conservative political views and maybe, just maybe, isn’t a pawn?
For mantis:
Michael Steele’s Minstrel Show
Which is the minstrel act of folks like Sonja Schmidt will always be just that.
And here, Oliver, you call Muichael Steele ‘The Great Black Hope’. No way there’s any hypocrisy there, is there, when you called you Lynn Jenkins a racist for saying ‘Great White Hope’. Panache, right, but not hypocrisy?
Or, this…”And considering the history of black conservatives willing to do anything for a buck, I’d take the testimony of Kenneth Gladney with a giant grain silo of salt.”
Toady wasn’t your term, but it applies to how you’ve many times characterized blacks who dared to be conservatives.
but you have called several people minstrels
And even that isn’t accurate. I’ve accused them of doing minstrel shows and minstrel acts. I’ve not called them minstrels. But that’s semantics. Your initial accusation is total bullshit, and you got called on it for a change.
The people I cited are minstrel acts. They put on a show for white conservatives while stomping on black Americans. I call them out for what they are. You’ll notice that I don’t do so with someone like Colin Powell, who while a conservative and wrong on Iraq, somehow does so without making a fool of himself or black America.
Oy, Dennis, there is no racist history behind “Great Black Hope.” You should really learn to cut your losses, man.
Just that it’s a bit hypocritical for him to be using that term freely and then give no quarter to someone who used the inverse of it and subsequently apologized for saying it, Wilfredo.
Dennis, the Rep (who’s name escapes me, sorry) knew what the term meant way before she used it at the meeting, so the apology was based on a lie.
Just that it’s a bit hypocritical for him to be using that term freely and then give no quarter to someone who used the inverse of it and subsequently apologized for saying it, Wilfredo.
No. It’s not hypocritical. Also: Schmidt?
*whose