The Conservative Response To President Obama’s Speech To Students

2:40 am EST September 4th, 2009 | News | 80 Comments

duckandcoverYou understand that this shows us that the right is even crazier than we thought, right? For all we on the left disliked, heck, hated about George W. Bush, nobody freaked out like this over a pro-education speech (at worst we joked about the irony). These people, seriously, believe that somehow Barack Obama plans to mindwipe their children and install communism in their brains.

In the entire history of the United States that last sentence would be made in jest, but now, in the era of wingnut singularity, it is a perfectly apt description of the mindset of the Beck-Limbaugh led right.

In fact, I’m probably describing the moderate response from the right.

You folks on the right, are you proud of yourselves for being this insane and inane?

Beam me up, Scotty.

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80 Responses to “The Conservative Response To President Obama’s Speech To Students”

  1. dotlizard says:

    I’m completely freaked out by the level of crazy demonstrated by a ranking GOP official. And I’m frantically racking my brain for what could possibly be a problem in a lesson plan that encourages children to RESPECT the PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES (pardon my screaming, can’t help it). Jebus F. Crickets, don’t they remember it’s UNAMERICAN not to support the President? No matter what? Stay the course? Mission Accomplished? One of us or one of THEM? Ring a bell?

    No? I guess they forgot.

  2. Jaim says:

    The GOP decided to go all-or-nothing once a black man became president.

    They are quickly headed towards nothing.

  3. durablend says:

    Jebus F. Crickets, don’t they remember it’s UNAMERICAN not to support the President?

    Well, of course, they believe John McPalin is the real president, so they have no problem disrespecting the black guy who’s “illegally” residing in the WH.

  4. Jay Tea says:

    It wasn’t just the speech, you gits. It was the Department of Education’s whole-hearted push that went along with it — all part of the remaking of President Obama into Savior Obama.

    “What books can I read about President Obama?”

    “How can I help him?”

    Liberals wet themselves when Republican presidents even spoke to a single group of students; here they see no problem with Obama speaking to nearly all of them, with the public education machine working overtime hyping him the event.

    J.

  5. Jaim says:

    The president wanted to tell kids to work hard and stay in school for God’s sake.

    But I guess you don’t like negros speaking to good white children. Typical GOP racist scum.

    “the public education machine”

    Right. Because America would be a lot better off with public schools.

    My god you’re a fucking moron.

  6. Jaim says:

    with = without

  7. “What books can I read about President Obama?”

    “What is it about President Bush that makes you want to serve him?”

    I wonder what the Bushies were taught in school. Jeez.

  8. Oh, and by the way, it’s time for another round of “let’s Google the bullshit Jay Tea didn’t make a link to!” Today’s topic: “What Books Can I Read About President Obama?”

    Man, that does sound awful! I bet when I check that against the actual words in the DOE guidelines, it’ll be verbatim!

    Before the Speech:

    Teachers can build background knowledge about the President of the United States and his speech by reading books about presidents and Barack Obama and motivate students by asking the following questions:

    -Who is the President of the United States?
    -What do you think it takes to be President?
    -To whom do you think the President is going to be speaking?
    -Why do you think he wants to speak to you?
    -What do you think he will say to you?

    Oh.

  9. El Cid says:

    I totally think it’s wrong that Barack Obama is forcing our children to sacrifice babies on Druidic altars.

  10. The Needle says:

    “Liberals wet themselves when Republican presidents even spoke to a single group of students;”

    No they didn’t, you lying sack of shit.

  11. Jay Tea says:

    August, that was creepy too. If you didn’t like it at one school, why are you so eager to foment it at all of them?

    And I paraphrased. Big whoop. “about presidents and Barack Obama” is the precise wording.

    Oh, and Jaim: it’s rich hearing you stick up for American public schools, considering how proud you are of your attendance at a very elite private school. Did you EVER attend a public school? Or are you, as usual, talking out of your ass?

    J.

  12. Jay Tea says:

    Hey, August, you want some other creepy videos?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOtGr1JFCnE

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqcPA1ysSbw&feature=PlayList&p=D123085421065576&index=0

    In the latter, I especially like Demi Moore’s “I pledge to be a servant to our president” and the proclamations of Cameron “if Bush is re-elected, rape will be legal” Diaz.

    J.

  13. Jaim says:

    Yup. K-8. Got my MA at a public uni.

  14. The Needle says:

    Okay, let’s recap. So far, Jay Tea has been caught lying about what the DOE said and got his own snarky comment about “did you ever go to public school or are you talking out of your ass” shoved right back in his face.

    Jay Tea: PWNED more times before 9 Am than most people get all day.

  15. michael says:

    “Liberals wet themselves when Republican presidents even spoke to a single group of students”

    If we were wetting ourselves, it was because planes were being crashed into skyscrapers, and the President took seven minutes to finish the story about the goat.

  16. BDE says:

    Apparently a political speech to students is a bad thing when you have an R behind your name…

    “The Department of Education should not be producing paid political advertising for the president, it should be helping us to produce smarter students.”

    Who said it?

    Dick Gephardt (D)
    October 3, 1991

  17. Oy Vey says:

    Shorter JT: I have no idea what I’m talking about. Again.

  18. Jay says:

    Actually, most conservatives have argued that keeping the kids home is silly. Again, the minority within conservative is often played up by Oliver and the left to be the majority. Of course, we know that liberals would react with calm and maturity if President Bush were to have done the same thing. Bwahahahaha!! That’s a good joke isn’t it?

    From the article:

    Sandra Abrevaya, U.S. Education Department spokeswoman, notes that President George H.W. Bush addressed the nation’s students on live TV in 1991.

    Yes, and Democrats went apeshit. And that was George H W Bush. If it was George W. Bush, a good portion of the left would have burst blood vessels.

    nobody freaked out like this over…

    Dude, you have a serious memory lapse. The left freaked out over just about anything President Bush did. Anything. Everything the man did was part of some kind of grand conspiracy to take over the world and ruin it along with his “masters” who ran the oil companies. But really, what is there to expect from people that routinely compared President Bush to Adolph Hitler?

  19. Indeed says:

    Unless you can provide some examples to back up your bluster, you’re full of shit, Jay.

  20. Crapola says:

    Liberals wet themselves when Republican presidents even spoke to a single group of students

    You know, except then they aren’t saying a damned thing about it.
    I vividly remember George HW Bush on the TV taking up close to a half hour of my time when I was in my 5th grade homeroom class in an attempt to scare the living piss out of me by telling me about the evils of drugs through stories of cop killings and crack babies. The reason I remember this is because I had fucking nightmares about fucking crack babies and fucking dead cops for over a fucking month afterwards.
    Bush did this AT THE SAME TIME he was pushing congress to enact stricter drug laws and fund more prisons and pushing against Dems who wanted shit that actually works in the legislation, like treatment programs and education not bent on giving 11 year-old children nightmares. Hardly anyone bitched about the speech and nobody pulled their kids out of school even though Bush was blatantly trying to indoctrinate children in a policy he was actively trying to get legislation passed on.

  21. Wilbur says:

    Yes, and Democrats went apeshit.

    ‘Apeshit’ is nonsense, and what democrats complained about at the time was not ‘indoctrinating the children’ or ‘mind control’, but the fact that when Bush’s campaign for re-election was already underway he was using government funds to give a speech that seemed designed to shore up a weak spot in his campaign – his previous inattention to education issues. Just a leeeeetle different, no?

    The right in this country is totally losing its mind.

  22. Jay says:

    Indeed, learn how to use Google. It’s not that hard.

  23. Indeed says:

    In the latter, I especially like Demi Moore’s “I pledge to be a servant to our president” and the proclamations of Cameron “if Bush is re-elected, rape will be legal” Diaz.

    Assuming this is correct (haven’t watched yet), you’re saying that dildo celebrities are somehow worse than SOP under the George Bush, Jr. Administration?

    From a comment yesterday at this joint:

    http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/09/02/bush/index.html

    And who can forget this awesome episode:

    Several Democrats who wanted to hear Vice President Dick Cheney speak in New Mexico on July 31st were required to recite an unusual pledge of allegiance. Before allowing them to attend Cheney’s speech at Rio Rancho Mid-High School, the Bush campaign demanded they sign an endorsement form saying they support the president. A campaign spokesman said the pledge was intended to weed out Democrats who might disrupt the event — but the “loyalty oath” infuriated many voters. “I resent the school that my taxes paid for being used for an event that’s restricted to people who sign a pledge to the Republican Party,” said Jim Brown, a longtime resident of Rio Rancho.

    Loyalty oaths, dude.

    Or as August J. Pollock noted this:

    After Goodling resigned, Williamson typed from memory the list of questions Goodling asked as a guide for future interviews. Among other questions, the list included the following:

    Tell us about your political philosophy. There are different groups of conservatives, by way of example: Social Conservative, Fiscal Conservative, Law & Order Republican.

    [W]hat is it about George W. Bush that makes you want to serve him?

    Aside from the President, give us an example of someone currently or recently in public service who you admire.

    or

    “I took an oath to the president, and I take that oath very seriously,” Sara Taylor said in answer to a question early in the hearing.

    And right after a break, Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT) asked her if she was sure about that. “Did you mean, perhaps, you took an oath to the Constitution?” Leahy asked. It was a telling exchange.

    Even as Attorney General, Alberto Gonazles actually thought his “client” was the President. The entire DOJ was structured to ensure that its employees, including prosecutors required to act with apolitical independence, were what they called “loyal Bushies.” Pledging “to be of service to George W. Bush” was the prime mandate of the Justice Department, which is why it was headed for his second term by Bush’s most loyal servant.

    In 2006, even Bill Kristol acknowledged to The New York Times that the “conservative movement” had become little more than a Bush-revering cult of personality: “Bush was the movement and the cause.”

    Bush’s election was divine, mandated by God:

    “This was Providence . . . . Anybody looking at the 2000 election would have to say it was a miraculous deliverance, and I think people felt it again this year.” By allowing Bush to stay in office, God is “giving us a chance to repent and to restore some moral sanity to American life.”

    When introducing the Commander-in-Chief at the 2004 GOP Convention — that Orwellian orgy of unprecedentedly creepy, relentless hero worship — Gov. George Pataki said: “He is one of those men God and fate somehow led to the fore in times of challenge.” The righteous Gen. Boykin said: “The majority of Americans did not vote for him. He’s in the White House because God put him there for a time such as this.” Rudy Giuliani added: “I say it — I say it again tonight — I say it again tonight: Thank God that George Bush is our President.”

    That’s all I have time for right now. There’s a shitload more where that came from.

  24. Indeed says:

    Indeed, learn how to use Google. It’s not that hard.

    Learn how to support your argument. (See also: above.)

  25. Jay Tea says:

    Shorter ed:

    “They did something dumb, so we can do something even dumber!”

    Hey, whatever gets you through the night, ed…

    J.

  26. JD Rhoades says:

    Indeed, learn how to use Google. It’s not that hard.

    Whenever you say that in an online argument, you’ve lost. Just thought you needed to know that.

  27. J. Winnfield says:

    “They did something dumb, so we can do something even dumber!”

    Unless and until Ashton Kutcher and Demi Moore are hired for the Justice Department, that statement means fuckall. Dumbass.

  28. Jay says:

    Whenever you say that in an online argument, you’ve lost. Just thought you needed to know that.

    Not with Indeed. Any what I talked about is pretty much common knowledge. It’s not like I’m making some wild claim that needs supporting evidence. What I wrote is akin to saying, “President Obama was elected in 2008.” Just simple facts.

    Unless and until Ashton Kutcher and Demi Moore are hired for the Justice Department, that statement means fuckall. Dumbass.

    No, Obama is just hiring 9/11 truthers and people who advocate forced abortions.

  29. JD Rhoades says:

    It’s not like I’m making some wild claim that needs supporting evidence.

    That is exactly what you’re doing, and your inability to back up your assertions with any examples (which should be easy to find if it’s such “common knowledge”) is why you’ve lost this argument. You’ve already been caught lying about the Dept of Education worksheet AND your little jab about “did you ever attend public school” blew up in your face.

    I expect you’ll continue to flail around and make a fool of yourself, but you’re toast and everyone here knows it.

  30. Heather says:

    Children need to excel and make something of themselves (and our country) by taking advantage of their education. They learn to be intelligent communicators by having discussions and voicing their opinions. Encourage our children to learn through communication not anger.

  31. Jay says:

    JD, you should stop blathering about people making fools of themselves when you’re sitting there confusing me and Jay Tea.

    And again, I am not making up some wild accusation. Which one is it JD? The comparisons to Hitler?

    http://www.google.com/search?q=bush+compared+hitler&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

    The one about Bush being beholden to oil companies?

    http://www.google.com/search?q=bush+war+for+oil&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

    Imperialism?

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=77v&q=president+bush+imperialist&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g-p1

    Where exactly am I off base here?

  32. the minority within conservative is often played up by Oliver and the left to be the majority
    And you have a habit of pretending your movement isn’t batshit crazy. Forced abortions. See what I mean? You people are nuts.

  33. And by the way, George Bush was beholden to oil companies (the first mission of the Iraq war was to protect oil, not defend civilians or secure the rest of the nation), was an imperialist (invaded Iraq for no reason) and acted like a fascist (removed people from presidential town halls for the thoughtcrime of not being a Bushie). You also forgot that he was a fucking incompetent who ruined the economy. The problem with our rhetoric and yours is ours is based in shit George W. Bush actually did. The right insists Obama’s up to no good and its there, plain as day… in invisible ink.

  34. JD Rhoades says:

    Ah, Jay, sorry for confusing you with Jay Tea. You wingnut fuckwits all begin to blur into one another after a while.

    So, you have provided some examples of people comparing Bush to Hitler, etc. Which leads to my next question: are you asserting that it is now okay to compare Obama to Hitler because someone did the same to Bush? And if so, does that retroactively make comparing Bush to Hitler okay?

    For the record, I’ve never compared Bush to Hitler,and roll my eyes at people who do. I do believe he was solidly in the pocket of his buddies at the oil companies, and I believe his actions bear that thesis out. And if you use the Merriam Webster definition of imperialism: the policy of extending a nation’s authority by territorial acquisition or by the establishment of economic and political hegemony over other nations, then yes, the Bush Administration pursued imperialistic policies.

  35. Jay Tea says:

    (Oh, great. I’m gonna get into one of Jay’s conversations. Maybe Oliver should make us all wear distinctive hats or something…)

    I’m not going to speak for my namesake, JD, but here’s a suggestion: when someone makes the Obama/Hitler comparison, do what a lot of people did when Bush/Hitler comparisons were made:

    Sigh, shrug, call ‘em assholes, and ignore it.

    Or, alternately, you could follow the Oliver approach: “It’s bad when you do it, but it’s fine when we do it BECAUSE IT’S TRUE!!!!!!!”

    Whatever.

    (Sigh. Shrug. “Assholes will be assholes.”)

    J.

  36. Sean D. Martin says:

    Jay Tea: It wasn’t just the speech, you gits. It was the Department of Education’s whole-hearted push that went along with it — all part of the remaking of President Obama into Savior Obama. Lie.

    “What books can I read about President Obama?” Lie.

    “How can I help him?”

    Liberals wet themselves when Republican presidents even spoke to a single group of students; Lie. here they see no problem with Obama speaking to nearly all of them, with the public education machine working overtime hyping him Lie.

    It would truly be nice to have a reasoned discussion about education, health care or any topic of significance (note: the President speaking to school children to encourage them the study hard isn’t one of those). But with the right represented by folks like Jay Tea, who simply cannot talk for more than two minutes on any topic without bringing forth the lies that is impossible.

  37. Sean D. Martin says:

    Jay Tea: Oh, and Jaim: it’s rich hearing you stick up for American public schools, considering how proud you are of your attendance at a very elite private school. Did you EVER attend a public school?

    Jay, you ever have an abortion? You ever been sentenced to the death penalty?

    I guess we can look forward to you never expressing an opinion about those and many other topics ever again. Right?

  38. Sean D. Martin says:

    Jay: Indeed, learn how to use Google. It’s not that hard.

    Translation: It’s hard for me, so you find the evidence to back up the things I’ve made up. Thanks.

  39. Quaker in a Basement says:

    What times we live in!

    Even if we concede Mr. Tea’s worst fantasies about the lesson plan and speech (“What books can I read about President Obama?”), my rebuttal remains:

    So what? School children reading a book about the President? Horrors!

    Movement conservatism has apparently morphed into a shadow nation–one that has it’s own news media, entertainers, and schools. Its adherents are steadily opting out of America bit by bit.

    Today they want to prevent their children from listening to the president or knowing anything about him. What’s next?

  40. Sean D. Martin says:

    Jay: Where exactly am I off base here?

    Your still unsupported fantasy that “Yes, and Democrats went apeshit.”

  41. Indeed says:

    A reminder from National Treasure Chuck Pierce:

    To every camel’s back, there is a final straw. Sooner or later, we’ve taken all we can stand and we can’t stands no more, and we pass over the Popeye Line. For me, it came sometime last weekend when I heard Richard Cheney, the pre-eminent moral and physical coward of the era, explain once again the Mulligan theory of national defense by which every president gets one free mass casualty attack that doesn’t count toward “keeping us safe.” (Note to Dick: by this standard, every two-term president kept us safer than you guys did. You were the worst at it. Scoreboard!) And I realized that, by all the standards of objectivity I was taught in journalism school–the most basic of which was that, if you saw a man walking down the street with a bird on his head, you could report it without finding someone else to tell you that, no, what you actually saw was a bird walking down the street with a guy on his ass–there is no longer any reason to take the Republican party seriously. It has become a festival for fruitcakes. The political movement that powered its ascension has become publicly demented. Sam Tanenhaus can plug his book all he wants, but the fact remains that it was American conservatism that spent three decades throwing open the doors to the monkeyhouse–starting with the Goldwater campaign in 1964, moving along through the Reagan campaigns of 1976 and 1980, the NCPAC campaigns of that same era, the marriage of convenience with theocratic crackpottery, the Buchanan campaign against the first President Bush, the various exercises in lunacy aimed at Bill Clinton, the half-mad banality of Newt Gingrich, and the cult of personality that sprang up around the second President Bush. It’s a little late for delicate conservative intellectuals to ponder how it was that all that monkey poo ended up on the walls.

    The serious people don’t lead in that party any more, and the leaders of it — Hello, Michael Steele — are not serious people. It is a major political party run now as an elaborate radio talk-show and completely in thrall to the maniacs who run actual radio talk-shows. Goddammit, the Spartacists are more intellectually honest and the Hemp Party folks are a helluva lot more fun. Why do serious political journalists take this careering clown car seriously, ignoring the evidence plainly in front of their own eyes? Why does a Democratic president, and an overwhelmingly Democratic congress, both elected at least in part because the country had determined that the Republicans had gone completely mad, care what these people think about anything? Why does a party led by people who think the president is going to hypnotize schoolchildren with his magic Kenyan-Socialist spinning eyeballs scare the living protoplasm out of putative tough guys like Rahm Emanuel?

    The perfect should not be the enemy of the good? Maybe not, but the good has many actual enemies. Evil is the enemy of the good. Greed is the enemy of the good. Ignorance is the enemy of the good. Cowardice is the enemy of the good. How’s about, just once, somebody worries about those enemies of the good, all of which are amply in evidence in the campaign to make sure we never reform the criminally negligent and morally indefensible way we deliver healthcare in this country?

    And yes, the whole thing’s worth your time.

    http://www.thenation.com/blogs/altercation/469129

  42. Quaker in a Basement says:

    The left freaked out over just about anything President Bush did. Anything. Everything the man did was part of some kind of grand conspiracy to take over the world and ruin it along with his “masters” who ran the oil companies.

    “The Left” again? Man, we gotta find that guy!

    Jay, you’re talking about commenters on blogs and maybe some crackpot talkshow hosts. Who were the Democratic Senate leaders comparing Bush to Hitler? The members of Congress talking about the need to be armed and ready? The national candidates talking about his plans to put people to death? The cable TV networks helping organize demonstrations against his policies.

    You got a bad case of false equivalence there, mister.

  43. jr says:

    Cons always think “if it ain’t white, it ain’t right”

  44. KXB says:

    “people who advocate forced abortions.”

    Yeah, but would that number exceed the number of dead Iraqis? And I trust you will be as committed to the well-being of these children once they are out of the womb?

  45. freD says:

    To get a grasp on the overall level of intelligence and sanity of movement conservatism, I look at the popularity of their leadership. Glenn Beck is orders of magnitudes more popular than Lew Rockwell. Bush43 more than Bush41, Limbaugh more than Sowell, Palin more than Fiorina, Coulter more than Noonan. And on down the list. Every popular conservative is either an incompetent nutball or polemic asshole, while the smarter, safer, saner ones do not garner anywhere near the support.

    When was the last time anybody ever debated the merits or shortcomings of the Austrian Schools “rational expectations” with a common conservative? It was far more likely they had to defend against attacks on Obama’s being an illegal death panel socialistic terroristic Islamofascist.

    Wingnuts own the GOP.

  46. Duros62 says:

    No, Obama is just hiring 9/11 truthers and people who advocate forced abortions.

    What?!

    I can make this real simple. Obama goes on camera, holds up a photo of the previous President who shall not be named, and say, “Kids, stay in school. Don’t be like this guy.”

  47. MatanteDodo says:

    Politicians sometimes go to schools and talk to children. It does some good to their image if they carry it right, and it’s an occasion for teachers to interest children in what this and that function means in the government. Everybody wins. Most politicians are smart enough to know that attempting to indoctrinate the children would fail, kill their reputation and carreer, so they stick to neutral subjects. (and Obama’s contribution to the USA’s international image has proven that he is smart)
    But then, I know dogmatic conservatives who have a very negative view on higher education, so maybe “stay in school” has an evil left bias to them.

  48. Duros62 says:

    Movement conservatism has apparently morphed into a shadow nation–one that has it’s own news media, entertainers, and schools. Its adherents are steadily opting out of America bit by bit.

    Country First, eh, guys?

  49. Quaker in a Basement says:

    And churches! I forgot churches.

  50. Duros62 says:

    Limbaugh more than Sowell

    That’s the same dude who advocating shooting to kill traffic violators from helicopters, yes?
    Yeah, that seems a whole lot more reasonable.

  51. White Whale says:

    I was not one of those people who said “George Bush isn’t my President!” but then again I think I understand citizenship and respect our nation. It seems conservatives are some of the most un patriotic…no un-american folks around. As an educator, I find it appalling that conservatives are teaching kids to be disrespectful to the country’s leader and ergo saying f@#K citizenship. This is another reach from the hateful class and to regular folks you sound like mental patients.

    If I see folks like this, I will just treat them like our kindergarten kids when they are irrate and irrationally crying by saying “Do you need a hug?”

  52. Quaker in a Basement says:

    Tags, D! Haw!

  53. Duros62 says:

    Tags, Q. I swear, my shift key is busted.

  54. texan says:

    Though I voted for Obama, I wasn’t supportive of this. There’s no way I would’ve have been ok with Bush speaking to my kids about terra, and I don’t need Obama talking to them, either. It’s not a mindwipe thing, just a parental thing. Politicians usually have an agenda or idea to sell, and I would like to preview it to make sure I am cool with it before the message reaches my kids.

  55. rip says:

    Half the right knows it will be out of power for quite a long time and figures that if it just encourages the other half to fling poo at everything Obama does it will at least slow him down.

    Conservatives thrive on a steady diet of outrage so I don’t look for the lunacy to end anytime soon. Seven years from now I fully expect them to be insisting that President Obama plans on suspending the constitution before his second term is up and declaring himself President for Life.

  56. Quaker in a Basement says:

    Seven years from now I fully expect them to be insisting that President Obama plans on suspending the constitution before his second term is up and declaring himself President for Life.

    Oh, no, no, no, no, rip. You’re way, way off base on that one. They’re doing it already.

  57. canadian bacon says:

    “Politicians usually have an agenda or idea to sell, and I would like to preview it to make sure I am cool with it before the message reaches my kids.”

    WTF do you folks edit preview whatever you want to call it everything your kids hear? Fucking grow up parents, kids can handle it. FUCK.

    You’re losing it folks. Get a grip. He’s not a monster!!
    FUCK again. It’s a two FUCK thread. That’s three, I know.

  58. canadian bacon says:

    Oh, one more thing; make sure your kids never travel either. That’s really scary. All those different people with all sorts of customs and traditions and histories different from your own. TURN EYES OUTWARD. Rewarding.

  59. rip says:

    Seeing as public school teachers are employees of the state, and that the state imposes a curriculum, I would hope that all those worried about the Socialism are asking to see the lesson plans of their children’s teachers on a daily basis. I’m sure the teachers would be happy to oblige – unless they have Socialist sympathies!

  60. calling all toasters says:

    Country First, eh, guys?

    Only their taste in music.

  61. freD says:

    Limbaugh more than Sowell

    Sowell said that? How about “Limbaugh more than Krauthammer”? He’s a doc, even! Can’t use Jonah Goldberg (screwball nepotistic chickenhawk), or Buchanan (racist paranoid), not Chuck Baldwin (too much like Buchanan), uh… David Horowitz? No… debates like a drunken little girl and used to be a commmie. And whathehell kind of person jumps from far left to far right? Jindal’s out. Buckley’s out. Rumsfeld’s out. Kristol’s always wrong. David Brooks is often wrong. Cheney’s a just a dick. Bolton – a madman. Wolfowitz and Natsios – incompetent. Frum – a Canadian, doesn’t count. Rove, Delay, Gingrich – corrupt. Zbigniew Brzezinski? What’s wrong with Zbigniew Brzezinski except that he worked for Carter and called Bush global leadership a failure?

    Limbaugh more than Zbigniew Brzezinski.

  62. Tyro says:

    We’ve crossed over to the other side in which Charles Johnson of Little Green Footballs is the voice of the “sane” right:

    Maybe the Republican spokesperson could come on and tell the kids why it’s a horrible idea to stay in school, because school is just going to teach them commie values!

    Maybe they could teach the kids it’s a horrible idea to set goals and excel academically, because the commies are just going to kick down their doors at 2am and haul them off to FEMA camps anyway!

    Yeah. Now there’s a school address the GOP can get behind.

    The Republicans are throwing one of their typical public hissy fits that they’re flooding their airwaves with, as is typical of their childish and ignorant value system. 1I have to say that I am highly disappointed in the behavior we’ve seen from the Republican community, here, which is reflective of, I have to say, a highly warped, anti-education value system which lacks any sense of self-control. Jay Tea, unfortunately, reflects nothing more than the behavior of a man acting out with such a hissy fit simply because his Republican culture has told him that such behavior is “cool,” leaving him incapable of moral reasoning. Whenever I see such behavior, I am sad for the lost generation of those taking their cues from the Drudge Report and John Boehner to tell them what to think and what to say and when to throw an irrational tantrum. Republican culture is a sadly corrupting influence.

  63. canadian bacon says:

    They’ve had their heads up their asses for so long now that they’re starting to like the smell.

  64. PD100 says:

    Hey, August, you want some other creepy videos?

    Sure, Fucktard. Here’s a pharma abuser sitting next to one of the biggest narco-facilitators.

    Wheee! bonus!

  65. Indeed says:

    Only just seen this, from a few weeks back:

    ATWATER, Calif. — Violent and racist e-mail jokes alluding to the assassination of President Barack Obama, the killing of Latinos and violence against black people were forwarded by Atwater City Councilman Gary Frago during the last six months, according to more than 200 new e-mails obtained by the Sun-Star from the city of Atwater. [...]

    One of the most troubling of the new Frago e-mails, forwarded in January, joked that Nokia had designed a new cell phone for “nervous white people” who want to make calls in a series of cities known for their large black populations, such as Oakland and New Orleans. The phone was a gun. [...]

    Another e-mail forwarded by Frago on Dec. 9, 2008, was in the form of a fictitious letter sent by Sen. John McCain to John Hinckley Jr., a man obsessed with actress Jodie Foster, who attempted to assassinate President Ronald Reagan in 1981. The letter said that Hinckley would be released soon and he should know that Obama was sleeping with Foster now. [...]

    A third e-mail joked about killing illegal immigrants and Obama delegates. The joke is about a man applying for a position with a police department. As a test, the chief tells the applicant: “Take this gun with 13 bullets and go out and shoot six illegal immigrants, six Obama delegates and a rabbit.” The man asks: “why the rabbit?”

    “Fantastic attitude,” says the chief. “When can you start?”

    More conservative response to Obama.

  66. Sean D. Martin says:

    Tyro: Jay Tea, unfortunately, reflects nothing more than the behavior of a man acting out with such a hissy fit simply because his Republican culture has told him that such behavior is “cool,” leaving him incapable of moral reasoning.

    I’ve often wondered if the “leaders” and loud voices from the right actually believe what they are saying, or are just cynics who are playing to the masses, calculatedly lying and distorting to achieve some goal.

    I no longer see how the latter is even possible.

    And a particularly regrettable consequence of their behavior is that more and more folks will believe that this IS the way to conduct political discourse. That this IS the way to run a country.

    Rationally and calmly discuss differences? Find common ground and work slowly out from there? Make a case for your view and work to convince others that your view is right?

    Huh? What the hell are you talking about? Everyone knows that you shout down your opponent, make up anything you can that will smear them and claim their un-American if they try to disagree with you.

  67. Jay Tea says:

    Sean, you must have missed these shenanigans:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YtcmmYOesk

    You’re welcome…

    J.

  68. Jaim says:

    4:17 A.M. Jesus man, get a life.

  69. Jay Tea says:

    While that’s certainly advice I can take, Jaim, that’s about when I wake up. I’m a morning person. An early morning person.

    And do you have anything to say about what I said, as opposed to when I said it?

    …I thought not.

    J.

  70. Sean D. Martin says:

    Jay Tea: Sean, you must have missed these shenanigans:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YtcmmYOesk

    You’re welcome…

    Jay Tea with his typical response, ladies and gents. POint out something that a lot of folks on the right do that is wrong and he’ll point to one person on the left doing it. It’s the nyah-nyah kindergarten-level of debate that Jay is capable of.

    As has been said/asked innumerable times buy many “lefties” here: Yes, it’s also wrong when someone on the left does it. Are you completely incapable of acknowledging it is wrong when done by someone on the right?

    The answer, as Jay Tea yet again ably demonstrates is, “But look, over there!”

    He has nothing else.

    And, Jay? You’re welcome.

  71. Sean D. Martin says:

    Jay Tea: And do you have anything to say about what I said,

    An ironic admonishment, coming from Jay.

  72. Sean D. Martin says:

    Jay Tea: Sean, you must have missed these shenanigans:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YtcmmYOesk

    Yes. It’s absolutely shameful that someone would suggest that, when someone starts yelling being disruptive to draw attention (cameras) to themselves that folks deny them that attention.

    Or that they use similar tactics as the offender. After all, we know how much you’re against people sinking down to an immature tone established up front and <a href="http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/09/04/franken-talks-to-teabaggers/#comment-175571"engaging them on the terms they’ve chosen.

    Oh, right. Never mind.

  73. Sean D. Martin says:

    Jay Tea: Sean, you must have missed these shenanigans:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YtcmmYOesk

    Yes. It’s absolutely shameful that someone would suggest that, when someone starts yelling being disruptive to draw attention (cameras) to themselves that folks deny them that attention.

    Or that they use similar tactics as the offender. After all, we know how much you’re against people sinking down to an immature tone established up front and engaging them on the terms they’ve chosen.

    Oh, right. Never mind.

  74. buma says:

    Is conservatism a disease or just a syndrome?

  75. Norris Hall says:

    It’s OK for a Republican president to addressed a national audience of students and toot his horn and push his political agenda but it’s not ok for Obama to tell students to stay in school?

    That’s called DOUBLE STANDARD

    On November 14, 1988, President Reagan addressed and took questions from students from four area middle schools in the Old Executive Office Building. The speech was broadcast live and rebroadcast by C-Span, and Instructional Television Network fed the program “to schools nationwide on three different days.”
    In his speech to students and the question and answer session following Reagan

    1. stressed the importance of low taxes and free trade.
    2. stressed the importance of religion in our nation.
    3 touted the economic achievements of his administration ,
    4.put in a plug for the line item veto,
    5. told the students that lowering taxes increases revenue
    6. boasted of his administrations aid to Negro colleges
    7. and told students that if guns were banned, burglars would be “celebrating forevermore”

    http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/speeches/1988/111488c.htm

    Two years before that Reagan again spoke to the children of America on nationwide TV .
    He spends the bulk of his address touting the wonderful accomplishments of his administration in fixing the economy, restoring America’s military, bolstering foreign policy. (Gee, isn’t it suppose to be about the kids??)

    Then he goes on to exhort the students to help make America strong by

    1. studying hard (good)
    2. being good citizens (wonderful)
    3. staying away from drugs. (excellent)
    4. and lowering the tax rates (Huh???)

    Why he just couldn’t help himself slip his political agenda in there again.

    http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/speeches/1986/51386d.htm

  76. usbzman says:

    Yes, Jaim. We are all moron racist idiots because we don’t agree with Obama. Of course that is the reason, what else could it be?

    The government seizure of private industry, the government seizure of the entire banking system, the $9 trillion debt that our great-grandchildren won’t be able to pay off, the constant lying, the railroading of overwhelmingly unpopular bills to law, and the socialization of a country and society that is constitutionally-guaranteed anti-socialist have absolutely nothing to do with our concern…

    it’s ‘cuz’n we wannta keep da nigra out da white house.

  77. Sean D. Martin says:

    usbzman: Yes, Jaim. We are all moron racist idiots because we don’t agree with Obama. Of course that is the reason, what else could it be?

    Oh, I dunno. How about inaccurate hyperbole like “government seizure of the entire banking system”? How about getting up in arms over deficit spending that didn’t seem to be such a bother to Republicans when Reagan and Bushes wee in the White House? Or complaining about “constant lying” while utterly ignoring the numerous documented lies told by the Bush administration?

    And that’s just you. It doesn’t begin to get into the many voices insisting Palin was the best the party had to offer? Or the many who jumped to believe and push her out right lie that there would be death panels?

    And that’s just regarding Palin and doesn’t begin to get into comments by other prominent Republican and conservative leaders.

    So it isn’t just that you disagree with Obama just to disagree with Obama. It’s that your leaders say stupid, hypocritical things which you take to be gospel.

  78. Sean D. Martin says:

    usbzman: it’s ‘cuz’n we wannta keep da nigra out da white house.

    Sure seems that way. If it isn’t, then give rational reasons for your opposition and not generic meaningless statements like “but it’s socialism!”

  79. james says:

    I’m pretty confident that this was an exaggeration, but remember, democrats (again, maybe an exaggeration) didn’t want H.W. Bush to talk to kids either.

  80. J. Harmon says:

    President Obama has these fools right where he wants them. Let them keep making themselves look crazy.