In the teabagger’s credit, they gave the junior Senator from Minnesota time to talk and seemed to at least be listening to him. That’s the exception to the rule.
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OMG LEADERSHIP FORM THE COMEDIAN!!!
ok, dude has some ridiculously awesome people skills. he finds the common ground, he explains complex things on human terms, he slaps down the idiots who weren’t paying attention and then apologizes for having to call them out on the whole, being idiots thing.
Senator Franken flat out rocks.
How could they hear him speak with Oliver’s scrotum in his mouth? I guess that acting training really paid off…
J.
Oh, and the original “teabag the White House” reference was put forth someone who was innocent of the vulgar meaning of the term, and wanted people to send tea bags (you know, actual little bags of tea leaves) to the White House in a modern-day version of the Boston Tea Party, where tax protesters dumped crates of tea into Boston Harbor.
The whole “shoving your scrotum into someone’s face” wasn’t part of the original intent, but that doesn’t keep the immature gits from giggling like moronic grade-schoolers at the alleged joke…
J.
“How could they hear him speak with Oliver’s scrotum in his mouth?”
What the hell if your problem, Jay?
Oliver is a much nicer guy than I am. I’d have given you a couple of vacations by now.
But what do I know? I’ve never spent hours upon hours of my every waking day trolling a wing-nut blog, starting off right when I rolled out of bed.
EVERY GODDAMN DAY.
Shorter Jay Tea: I got nothing on this speech.
Jaim, why do you have a problem with me using the literal definition of “teabagging,” but no problem with Oliver’s shorthand use of it?
Am I taking away from your juvenile glee at using it?
Too fucking bad.
J.
Teabaggers chose the name for themselves. Far be it from me to save them from their own ignorance.
But pace yourself, Jay. It’s not even seven in the AM and you’ve got a long day of trolling ahead of you. How’re the GOP talking points looking?
How could they hear him speak with Oliver’s scrotum in his mouth? I guess that acting training really paid off…
Well so much for Jay’s insistance of raising the level of discourse here….
durablend, I could appeal to people’s sense of propriety and decorum and get them to stop using “teabaggers,” but I pretty much know how that’d go.
So, instead, you wanna wallow in the muck? Fine. I’ll splash it around, too.
J.
Jay Tea’s having a little hissy fit. Don’t worry, it’ll pass and he’ll be back to lying soon.
Jaim, I know you have problems reading, so I’ll repeat it:
A few people chose to send tea bags to the White House in a metaphorical callback to the Boston Tea Party. Then some immature assholes (such as, say, you) decided to bring up the crass, vulgar definition of “teabag” and impress their fellow juveniles by using it over and over.
So, it’s funny when you call them teabaggers.
But it’s not funny when someone actually takes what you say and paraphrases it into the literal meaning of what you’re saying.
Nice double standard there, Jaim. And here I didn’t think you had any standards at all…
J.
It’s funny when bed-wetters like you called me a terrorist for supporting Obama.
Gee, that was easy.
What’s your favorite flavor of teabag, anyways?
Care to comment on the actual content of the post there, Jay? No? Thought as much.
Quaker, I don’t talk gay marriage with people who casually use terms like “fags.”
I don’t talk illegal immigration with people who casually use terms like “spics” or “wetbacks.”
I don’t talk race issues with people who casually use “niggers” or “crackers.”
And I don’t talk about the anti-massive-government-spending issues with people who casually use the terms “teabaggers” or “teabagging.”
In each case, they’re not interested in discussing the issues, but in getting their cheap thrills out of using naughty, rude, insulting terms.
So I either ignore them or engage them on the terms they’ve chosen. I don’t waste my time arguing the actual issue — that’s not what they’re interested in doing.
If you want to discuss the matter, get that scrotum out of your mouth and speak clearly. Otherwise, keep enjoying the taste of ballsweat.
J.
If you want to discuss the matter, get that scrotum out of your mouth and speak clearly. Otherwise, keep enjoying the taste of ballsweat.
Excuse me? Have I ever used that term?
Jay your hypocrisy knows no bounds.
Quaker, you seem to have no problem with others using the term “teabag” in this context. Why do you have a problem with me using it less metaphorically?
Franken, unlike Oliver, was actually civil. A remarkable achievement for Franken.
J.
the word teabagger is not even close to being equivalent to racial slurs such as the ones mentioned by jay tea. to suggest otherwise trivializes years of opression, racism, and discrimination.
brif, it’s a slur. That it’s a young one doesn’t change that.
And I started with “fags.” I wasn’t aware that that term had a racial connotation.
While I’m at it, let’s toss in “sluts” and “bitches” and “hos” when discussing women’s issues.
Same principle applies across the board.
J.
Actually, the shouting and constant interruptions by some protesters is the exception to the rule. But don’t let little things like facts get in the way of your fantasy.
By the way, all the liberals here look good with Senator Franken’s balls in their mouths.
Teabaggers chose the name for themselves. Far be it from me to save them from their own ignorance.
Uh, no they did not. That’s a flat out lie.
teabagger is as much of a slur as birther. i never said fags was a racial slur, i simply said you mentioned racial slurs, that doesn’t incorporate everything you said. and no, the same principle does not apply across the board. there is no equivalence between the n word and teabagger.
If anyone ever catches me spending four hours discussing how I refuse to discuss something, you have my permission to put a bullet in my head.
michael, it’s called “multitasking.” I’ve done quite a few other things in the past four hours. This doesn’t really require that much attention.
J.
Jay, your “multitasking” is all the more impressive with all those teabaggers’ scrotums in your mouth.
Wow. A senator who knows what the fuck he’s talking about. Who’da thunk it?
Will Al Franken continue to be able to speak in fairly human fashion, or will he lapse into dread Senatorspeak over time?
Wilbur, I had so many fine examples to learn from around here…
But I could never EVER hope to be as adept as you folks.
J.
Uh, no they did not.
Yes they did, Jay. Yes they did.
Man, Jay’s a whiny little whiner, isn’t he?
I would say it doesn’t surprise me that Franken is civil when dealing with and discussing civil people, even if they have conflicting ideas and goals. That he is on occasion uncivil when dealing with and discussing uncivil people seems to underscore his point about the breakdown of civil discourse in American politics. Metaphorically speaking, when someone is punching you in the face, you’re not obligated to cringe and say, “Please sir, if you’d be so kind as to stop punching me in the face, I’d really appreciate it.” Punching back has the tendency to put people on notice that they can’t do or say whatever they want without facing some pushback/consequences.
In that whole videotaped exchange, what you didn’t see was any dispute that the system is in trouble and needs reform, nor was there anything resembling a full-throated defense of the way private insurers do business nowadays.
All this concern about naughty language from people who have spent the last 12 years joking about Mr. Clinton’s penis?
Haw!
Waaaaaaahmbulance for Jay and Jay. The teabaggin’ morons named themselves, and based on the logic and style of their arguments, scrotum dipping perfectly fits.
Back to the topic of the post…
Franken totally rules! I had no idea. He’s very very good here. Maybe my dream of a Franken / Stewart ticket isn’t so ridiculous.
What’s more “vulgar?” Using the term “teabagging” or “teabagger?” Or suggesting that the US is no longer a representative democracy just because you lost two elections in a row?
The latter, I’d say.
Franken’s just thankful that, because of the recount, he didn’t have to vote for that abortion of a stimlus bill.
I don’t talk gay marriage with people who casually use terms like “fags.”
I don’t talk illegal immigration with people who casually use terms like “spics” or “wetbacks.”
I don’t talk race issues with people who casually use “niggers” or “crackers.”
And I don’t talk about the anti-massive-government-spending issues with people who casually use the terms “teabaggers” or “teabagging.”
Then by all means, Jay Tea, feel free to STFU.
FWIW, I’m writing a script in Firefox to automatically alter text on oliverwillis.com to convert “Jay Tea” to “Jay Teabagger”. Perhaps someone with a little more skill can add an animated gif. I was going to also add it to http://www.commentarymagazine.com for J. G. Thayer, but I guess that’s not necessary any more..
Damn, unclosed italics.
We’re back to the usual left wing tactic: Repeat something over and over again and that will make it true.
Yes, the people who used those involved in the Boston Tea Party as a model for the protests this year against The One and his horrid tax and spend policies didn’t really mean that. What they really wanted was for people to believe that they like having some dudes hairy balls in their mouth. Yes, that has to be it.
Quaker, I find it amusing that the people who declared, “The adults are in charge” are getting same kind of snickers and chuckles 11 and 12 year olds do over something like “teabagging.”
Well, I guess anybody can play the game. When Obama does something indefensible like appointing 9/11 truthers (Van Jones) and advocates of forced abortion (John Holdren) to his administration, and Oliver and co. run to defend it, the standard response will be, “How does Obama’s ass taste?” You know. Since that’s the new ‘adults are in charge’ thing to do.
Quaker, I find it amusing that the people who declared, “The adults are in charge” are getting same kind of snickers and chuckles 11 and 12 year olds do over something like “teabagging.”
I find it equally amusing that you people have such thin skins about it all.
I find it equally amusing that you people have such thin skins about it all.
Oh I don’t have a thin skin about it. I consider the source. It’s the same people who think making Obama up to look like the Joker is “racist.” I just wish you people would stop lying and say that the Tea Party protesters bestowed the “teabagging” moniker on themselves.
“Back to the topic of the post…”
Why’s it becoming increasingly necessary to say that?
“I just wish you people would stop lying and say that the Tea Party protesters bestowed the “teabagging” moniker on themselves.”
Yup, as part of that lie I went back in time and created a Free Republic thread in February called “Operation Teabag”, and photoshopped the first picture from this event a week later.
Oh, who the fuck cares!!!!
It’s the same people who think making Obama up to look like the Joker is “racist.”
As evidenced by….
Again, not a shred of supporting documentation. I’m guessing you’re not a lawyer or a scientist.
Man, that Franken is smooth!
Do I even want to know what the obsession with Willis’s scrotum is about, I mean, apart from the teabagging reference?
Jay Tea: How could they hear him speak with Oliver’s scrotum in his mouth? I guess that acting training really paid off…
We can always count on JT to enter a discussion with a reasoned and adult comment.
Talk to you guys later. Gotta spend twelve hours trolling on Freep, NRO, and LGF.
Jay Tea: I don’t talk gay marriage with people who casually use terms like “fags.”
[etc. etc.]
In each case, they’re not interested in discussing the issues, but in getting their cheap thrills out of using naughty, rude, insulting terms.
So I either ignore them or engage them on the terms they’ve chosen. I don’t waste my time arguing the actual issue — that’s not what they’re interested in doing.
And thus JT proclaims once and for all that he has no interest in even attempting to elevate a discussion. (And in response to a video showing Franken doing just that. Teh irony!)
No, he clearly states that he much prefers to lower himself to the lowest level.
And, as his own initial post in this thread clearly shows, he can’t wait to drive any discussion to the lowest levels so he can wallow there.
Gotta spend twelve hours trolling on Freep, NRO, and LGF.
That’ll take all of three minutes. Freep and LGF will ban you after your first post. NRO doesn’t have comments.
What are you going to do with the rest of your day?
Not sure if Franken did any stand up comedy in addition to his writing and acting. However, if he did that is where he learned how to handle hecklers and those out to disrupt. A good comedian always knows how to take the piss out of any heckler and this is no different.
Jay: We’re back to the usual left wing tactic: Repeat something over and over again and that will make it true.
Yes, the people who used those involved in the Boston Tea Party as a model for the protests this year against The One…
I don’t expect you to get this at all, what with your mind being so tightly closed, but your objecting to folks using the term “teabagger” would carry a bit more weight if you didn’t simultaneously call Obama “The One”, a name completely made up by those opposed to him which they keep trying to Repeat over and over again hoping it will be true.
Repeat something over and over again and that will make it true
You mean like phony birth certificates, and death panels, and things like that?
Con commenters think private insurance is “freedom” despite premiums going up by 120 percent in the last 9 years. They defend corporations waging war against the middle class
Franken is doing a good job of proving himself right for the job. He’s informed on the issues and he engages with his constituents, and from this clip that includes the ones who disagree with him.
Good on him and the people of Minnesota.
We’re back to the usual left wing tactic: Repeat something over and over again and that will make it true.
“See, in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over again for the truth to sink in…to kind of catapult the propaganda.” — noted left-winger George W. Bush.
Next…
Wow, a lot of projection going on here.
As always I love it when Jay Tea equates screaming angry White people to minorities that have suffered centuries, or even milleniums, worth of oppression.
It’s almost like in American politics we come up with denigerating names for our opponents. What a crazy turn of events. Never before has someone spent so much time declaring that he’s ignoring something. Must mean it’s working.
Jay Tea, you better be self-employed because if you worked for me we’d call your ‘multitasking’ what it is: time theft. And you’d be fired. Even if you’re self-employed it seems that your hussy fits on Oliver’s website could be spent being more productive and generating a better life for you and your family.
But what do I know, I only post here occassionally 3 or 4 times a day because I’ve got shit to do.
Jay Tea lives in his mothers basement. But since he’s getting paid by Scaife to be an astroturfer, he’s “self-employed”.
The whole “shoving your scrotum into someone’s face” wasn’t part of the original intent, but that doesn’t keep the immature gits from giggling like moronic grade-schoolers at the alleged joke…
Yeah, like this asshole.
How could they hear him speak with Oliver’s scrotum in his mouth? I guess that acting training really paid off…
What an immature git.
TFJ for Pryme.
Bringing up scrotums seems like a Freudian slip to me. Addiction to porn is treatable, but I’m not sure if latency issues are. Anyways, Jay Tea shouldn’t be confused with Jay, who I think is similar, but operating from his wife’s basement. JT is more into the brawling, but J appears to have more of a genuine emotional investment in all this. Dennis already admitted to being an on-the-job slacker/freeloader.
Maybe it’s a Minnesota thing.
But I did have to get a laugh at the guy who was trying to blame the Meskins in McAllen for the health care costs even though El Intercepted Paso has as many and does their health care for half the cost.
Con commenters think private insurance is “freedom” despite premiums going up by 120 percent in the last 9 years.
They of course counter with “you’re free to fuck off and die if you don’t like it, you commie bastard”
I know this is off topic, but I am waiting for Oliver to post about his outrage over President Obama appointing a 9/11 Truther (who is also a “Free Mumia” stooge as well as a person who said that “white polluters” and “white environmentalists” were “steering poison” into minority communities) to his administration?
Freudian slip? I can only think with the amount of times the left mentions “teabagging” they must be getting the same tingle that Chris Matthews gets when hears Obama’s voice.
Jay, I say let them call their opponents whatever the hell they want. A hell of a lot of good it’s doing them according to all the polls.
The American people aren’t stupid: they know which party is, despite holding every lever of power in Washington, refuses to govern like adults. November 2010 is gonna be fun!
as well as a person who said that “white polluters” and “white environmentalists” were “steering poison” into minority communities
What’s wrong with this part? That he said “white”?
I know this is off topic,
Off topic?! Shit gave me whiplash.
Freudian slip? I can only think with the amount of times the left mentions “teabagging” they must be getting the same tingle that Chris Matthews gets when hears Obama’s voice.
“We’re proud of our president. Americans love having a guy as president, a guy who has a little swagger, who’s physical, who’s not a complicated guy like [former President Bill] Clinton or even like [former Democratic presidential candidates Michael] Dukakis or [Walter] Mondale, all those guys, [George] McGovern. They want a guy who’s president. Women like a guy who’s president. Check it out. The women like this war. I think we like having a hero as our president. It’s simple. We’re not like the Brits. We don’t want an indoor prime minister type, or the Danes or the Dutch or the Italians, or a [Russian Federation President Vladimir] Putin. Can you imagine Putin getting elected here? We want a guy as president.”
– Chris Matthews, who used to get his “tingles” from Bush.
All those guys Matthews mentioned (Clinton, Dukakis, Mondale and McGovern) are/were Democrats, BTW.
Next absolutism, please…
Another TFJ for Pryme over here, please.
I was finally able to watch some of the Franken video. Good on him for saying something almost no one else bothers to say: Other countries have health care systems that cover everyone, that don’t bankrupt families, and that cost less than ours.
Win!
It’s also pretty funny how little the shouters have to say when the discussion veers away from hollering about socialism.
The whole “shoving your scrotum into someone’s face” wasn’t part of the original intent,
And that’s the entire point of the joke. The point is that everyone involved in the “Tea Party” “movement” were so prudish and ignorant of the world in which they live, that not one of them said “You know, maybe using ‘teabag’ as a verb might not be such a hot idea”.
durablend, I could appeal to people’s sense of propriety and decorum and get them to stop using “teabaggers,” but I pretty much know how that’d go.
So, instead, you wanna wallow in the muck? Fine. I’ll splash it around, too.
There’s always the option of not posting here if the term offends your delicate sensibilities so much. But I think you’d rather act righteous and indignant.
There’s always the option of not posting here if the term offends your delicate sensibilities so much. But I think you’d rather act righteous and indignant.
“Act” being the key word here, of course.
I am waiting for Oliver to post about his outrage over President Obama appointing a 9/11 Truther
Really? You’re waiting for that?
If that happens, here’s a preview of what you’re going to be up against. Republicans and conservatives have spent 8 solid years making excuses for a President who allied himself with all manner of empire fetishists; who was asleep at the national security switch from the time he took office right up through the morning of 9/11; who talked mighty, macho talk about bringing in the main perpetrator of the worst terrorist attack on American soil “dead or alive” before handing off the ball to a bunch of undertrained, underequipped, unreliable Afgan “allies” and walking away to talk us into a preemptive invasion of an entirely other country; who promised us we would find in that country hidden stores of terrible weapons though we never did; who dragged his feet endlessly over any investigation into the attack or our response to it; and when there finally was an investigation, who couldn’t even answer the investigating committee’s questions without his vice-president there to hold his hand.
People like you, Jay, defended an actual President who did all these things. And now you tell us Van Jones shouldn’t even have the President’s ear because he signed a petition urging Congress to ask more questions?
Nice set of standards you got.
Other countries have health care systems that cover everyone, that don’t bankrupt families, and that cost less than ours.
And did Franken tell them about the comparisons on 5 year cancer survival rates in those “other countries” as opposed to the United States?
The CONCORD study showed the following:
Prostate cancer – USA 92%, Europe 52%
Breast cancer – USA 84%, Europe 73%
Colon cancer (men) – USA 60%, Europe 48% (rates are similar for women)
In fact the UK has lower survival rates for cancer than Europe as a whole.
Those arguing for government-run health care argue that more preventive care will be provided and thus lower costs. But a 2007 Commonwealth Fund report comparing the U.S., Australia, Canada, Germany, New Zealand, and the United Kingdom found that the U.S. was #1 in preventive care. Eighty-five percent of U.S. women age 25-64 reported that they had a Pap test in the past two years as opposed to 58% in the United Kingdom; 84% of U.S. women age 50-64 reported that they had a mammogram in the past two years compared to 63% in the United Kingdom.
Let Franken tell people about that, especially those who have loved ones who have been diagnosed with cancer.
That’s dandy, Jay. However, cancer isn’t the only condition that needs medical treatment. But I bet you already knew that.
People like you, Jay, defended an actual President who did all these things.
No. You know what I defend Quaker? I defend a President who didn’t dither for 8 years fighting terrorism and had to clean up the mess left by the administration that preceded him that did nothing but talk about “bringing people to justice” and handing out jail sentences while military operations were limited to air raids that were used to steer attention away from his domestic troubles and his impeachment. I defend a President who actually went out and killed terrorists, squeezed their money supplies and took out terrorist leaders and camps and kept this country safe for 8 years. He took out a man that killed more than 300,000 people and who used his money to help finance terrorism and has brought about stability in the Middle East that we haven’t seen in a long time. That’s what I defend.
9/11 Truthers didn’t want Congress to “ask more questions” you blithering idiot. These were people who accused our government of being complicit in the murder of over 3,000 Americans and that it was done in order so that Bush and others in the CIA could profit from the aftermath.
“Ask more questions.” Kindly stuff it.
The American people aren’t stupid
We have occasional bouts.
found that the U.S. was #1 in preventive care
… for the people that can get it. Which you guys refuse to understand because you’re so busy talking about death panels and how much you hate medicare.
By the way, Jay, you might like to, you know, read that Commonwealth Fund report you cited. Here’s the opening sentence:
“Ask more questions.” Kindly stuff it.
Say, you got a twin brother? There was a guy here earlier who was all upset about naughty language. Looked just like you.
defend a President who didn’t dither for 8 years fighting terrorism
Except the Iraq War was the ultimate dither. A dither that cost thousands of lives.
clean up the mess left by the administration that preceded him
True, Bush did end our long nightmare of peace and prosperity.
I defend a President who actually went out and killed terrorists
Well, except for the one who killed Americans on 9/11.
He took out a man that killed more than 300,000 people and who used his money to help finance terrorism and has brought about stability in the Middle East that we haven’t seen in a long time.
And in the process let thousands of Americans and Iraq die for no reason for no threat for weapons that did not exist. Heck of a guy.
That’s what I defend.
You defend the worst president in history. You defend a legacy of lies. You defend death for no reason.
Hold on just a second. In one breath you accuse Jones of being someone who:
and in another you accuse Mr. Clinton of this:
military operations were limited to air raids that were used to steer attention away from his domestic troubles and his impeachment.
Good thing you’re not a Presidential advisor, Jay. You’d have to rant against yourself.
and kept this country safe for 8 years.
Seven. That first year didn’t go so well.
Wildly successful air raids that Republicans claimed without evidence were used to steer attention away from his domestic troubles and his impeachment.
Fixed that for you!
Will Al Franken continue to be able to speak in fairly human fashion, or will he lapse into dread Senatorspeak over time?
I hope he keeps it real. It’s kind of jarring to see a senator of either party that doesn’t speak in cliches. They’re typically as interesting an interview as the average football coach.
I hope he keeps talking like this. He’ll set a good example for liberal politicians, pundits, and partisans of all stripes.
Now about Jay’s CONCORD study…
The health care system in all of those other countries is far less expensive than ours. How is it they can get results as good or better than the U.S. some of the time?
Another nice bit from the CONCORD study Jay likes:
First off, Franken comes off really well here. Just saying, no analysis.
But, re: the “tea party” thing? The current movement is nothing like what was done in Boston all those years ago. The people of Boston were protesting against a tax that they had no say in, and gained no benefit from, while at the same time was ruining the local markets. The British government reacted by closing the harbor and demanding repayment.
These people are protesting against a raise in the marginal rate which few of them would even notice, made by their local representatives who were properly voted in, which would have been spent on infrastructure that they use and profit from. The American government reacted by… letting them complain on TV and radio. Upon which all these fine folk ran home on April 15th and paid their taxes.
It’s sort of a stark comparison, if you ask me.
That’s it for today folks. Jay’s wife is home from work.
Interesting how basically no one can say anything bad about how Franken handled himself here. He’s clearly got a good grasp of the facts AND knows how to talk to people. That’s a surprisingly rare thing in Washington. Comparing this video to the crap that Norm Coleman’s campaign was saying about him is ridiculous.
Of course, Jay, it should be noted that the basic flaw of the CONCORD study is that comparison of cancer survival rates is only a useful metric if the same percentage of cases are being detected. Countries perform regular PSA tests will have a much higher rate of prostate cancer detection AND a higher rate of survival (more cases including many which would never result in more severe disease, which also artificially improves survival rate). Regular mammograms result in the same findings for breast cancer (many small-grade tumors that wouldn’t develop into life-threatening tumors). The metric that matters is the total cancer death rate. Guess what? We don’t do so well:
http://rex.nci.nih.gov/NCI_Pub_Interface/raterisk/rates39.html
Obviously, this isn’t perfect either, as cancer rates vary by country due to genetic, dietary, and other factors, but it’s pretty clear that all our trillions spent aren’t resulting in a low cancer mortality rate.
Prostate cancer is a perfect example of the flaws of the US health care system – we treat the HELL out of it. Lots of PSA screens, lots of surgical/radiation treatments (with a ton of horrible side effects, ranging from incontinence to ED), billions spent every year. Does screening result in more cases being identified? Yes. Does it result in more money being spent? Yes. Does it lower death rates? No:
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/142879.php
So Jay has inadvertently given us the ultimate case study in how NOT to run a health care system while producing bogus metrics that scream SUCCESS!! (in this case, look at the great 5-year survival rates!!). This is not a surprise.
Jay: Those arguing for government-run health care argue that more preventive care will be provided and thus lower costs. But a 2007 Commonwealth Fund report comparing the U.S., Australia, Canada, Germany, New Zealand, and the United Kingdom found that the U.S. was #1 in preventive care.
Would that be the report the Commonwealth Fund posted here, Jay?
Congratulations. Had you actually provided a link you’d be at SaveFarris level for providing disproof of what you claim.
Wow,
Looks like Jay bobbitted himself with his computer.
Don’t even see a place where you could get that thing into it to get it cut off.
Franken was worth waiting for. He actually had some of the wingers thinking for a bit. Jaye Tea doesn’t like that so much.
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