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September 2nd, 2009
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In the Teabag Mob’s defense, that wheelchair bound woman is worse than 100 Hitlers. She’s almost as bad as Obama in that regard.
Definitely! Doesn’t she realize what a burden on society she is and off herself?
SHEESH!
I hope you meant to say ‘the state of modern conservatism.’
And while I’m at it — ‘wheelchair-bound’ is a little unenlightened, like saying ‘handicapped.’ It would be nicer to de-stigmatize with ‘wheelchair user’ and ‘disabled.’
“I don’t see how a handicapped woman has more rights than I do.”
What a brave, brave, big man. Somebody please hand him some fresh hankies and diapers.
Another one of those isolated incidents, huh?
This is who they are, this is what they do
Another one of those isolated incidents, huh?
Yeah, “never happened”, or “teh libs set that up to make the Republicans look bad”, or just “LOOK! OVER THERE!”
That video and the commentary was really quite fair- what the right wing has done is effectively conceded the debate. Reasonable people can have discussions on tort reform, level of coverage, and taxation issues. But the modern Gop and its sheep prefer to talk about death panels and socialism. Well, you know what? I’m not going to debate these ridiculous points. I’m going to point and laugh.
Definitely! Doesn’t she realize what a burden on society she is and off herself?
SHEESH!
Clearly, what we need here is a solution to this problem. A final solution, as it were. Perhaps a…… death panel of some sort.
Not that modern; their grandparents shoved Ron Kovic (double amputee Vietnam War veteran against the war) out of his wheelchair at the 1972 Republican Convention. Plus ca change…
This is who they are.
If she were really disabled she’d be able to get up and walk, like Kenny Gladney.
I really wish that woman was with someone the size of Shawne Merriman. The back-of-the-room yelling coward would have been as quiet as a mime.
They should really just take these things online, where a moderator can filter out the yahoos and only take real questions. Obviously some among us aren’t mature enough to handle an open forum.
Awfully quiet on the wingnut side of this thread.
What was that, Michael? I couldn’t hear you because you have Oliver’s scrotum in your mouth.
I read a suggestion that when someone uses the phrase “teabag” in some form, simply ignore them — it’s obvious they’re more interested in juvenile thrills than actually discussing things. Made a bit of sense to me.
J.
Hm, classy as always Jay Tea. Do yourself a favor and try not to lie to anyone in any of your comments today.
I love how Jay Tea accuses me of having “Oliver’s scrotum” in my mouth and then goes on to state how he’s above “juvenile thrills” and actually wants to discuss things. Hypocrite or moron? You decide.
Jay Tea, no comment on town hall protesters shouting down a woman in a wheel chair trying to tell her story? No one can have the floor unless they’re screaming socialism I guess, that’s how democracy works.
“Hypocrite or moron? You decide.”
Both.
What’s funny is how the trolls here are becoming increasingly unglued. I expect Youtube videos of them OD’ing on Cheetohs and their Mommy’s homemade PBJ’s before long.
Jay’s video will prominently feature a soundtrack by Tears for Fears.
In a thread about “teabagging,” there are complaints that people are acting immaturely? PLEASE.
That boat done sailed already.
“Mommy, the mean man made fun of me because I called him a doodyhead!”
J.
In brief: when the term “teabag” is being used in the title and/or article, it’s clear Oliver isn’t interested in serious discussion. So I won’t discuss things seriously.
Especially to those with Oliver’s scrotum in their mouths.
J.
Jaim, I’m more of a Genesis fan. “Tears For Fears” had a few great songs, and Roland Orzabal has an amazing voice, but overall I prefer the almost-40-year library of Genesis. The Tears For Fears song was just a bit more on the nose that one time.
J.
“So I won’t discuss things seriously.”
When did Oliver make you the co-author of this blog?
Honestly, you should really get your own. Not that I mind the laughs I get out of your moronic babbling, but a guy who constantly trolls a liberal site probably shouldn’t be giving much advice on internet decorum.
I realize you have a problem with English, Jaim, but “discussion” requires more than one party. Otherwise it’s a monologue.
My part of the discussion is to abide by the juvenile, immature tone established up front and go along with it.
Alternately, I could ignore it (as others have), but that isn’t quite as fun.
J.
I read a suggestion that when someone uses the phrase “teabag” in some form, simply ignore them — it’s obvious they’re more interested in juvenile thrills than actually discussing things. Made a bit of sense to me.
So you’re finally disavowing the fruitcakes on your side? Y’know the ones who proclaimed themselves “teabaggers” apparently without even knowing what the term meant? Oh wait, it was Oliver who named them that (oh wait, no he didn’t)
Durablend, I don’t give a rat’s ass who came up with the term first. It’s stupid. It’s juvenile and asinine.
And while it might (or might not) have been first used in ignorance, that excuse is no longer valid. The only ones using it now are proclaiming themselves immature dipshits.
So I’m agreeing with them. They are immature dipshits.
J.
So, if I get in an accident and get disabled, and still oppose the current bill, can I then cancel her out? Other than merit, what other factors qualify an opinion? I just want to know what I’d need to do.
Wait, I remember now, anything that helps your side is good, while similar tactics against your side are nefarious.
She’s an American, that’s what “qualifies” her as having an opinion. She doesn’t deserved to be shouted down by an ideologue that doesn’t have to live with the issues a disabled person lives with in this country.
EL, the format was for asking questions. Anyone who’s ever seen “Jeopardy” knows how to make statements in the form of a question. Instead of “don’t let this happen,” just say “are you going to let this happen?”
It was pretty unruly, though. Sounds like the anti-ObamaCare people listened to the message of this pro-ObamaCare guy from Healch Care for America Now:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YtcmmYOesk
I do feel bad for the woman, though. Hey, lady, stand up and let us give you a round of applause.
Oh, what was I thinking? God love ya. Everyone else, stand up for her.
J.
I do feel bad for the woman, though. Hey, lady, stand up and let us give you a round of applause.
Did the guy who was just slagging people for being “juvenile” and “immature” actually write that? Spectacular, Jay.
“I do feel bad for the woman, though. Hey, lady, stand up and let us give you a round of applause.”
My god you’re a sick fuck Jay.
When in Rome, Wilbur…
And Jaim, nice to see you’re still as clueless as ever, if you didn’t get my reference there…
J.
“What was that, Michael? I couldn’t hear you because you have Oliver’s scrotum in your mouth”
“Just relax your throat and think of Zion” -John Podhoretz
I tried saying that, PD, but your mother’s a stubborn, stubborn woman…
J.
Health care reform supporter bites off the finger of health care reform opponent:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090903/ap_on_re_us/us_finger_severed
Well, Jay, at least it was probably an ORGANIC finger…
And how better to demonstrate how our current system works?
J.
“Hey, Bob, go give those teabaggers the finger!”
(chomp)
“Um… Bob… that’s not what I meant, dude…”
J.
Good rule of thumb
If you want to keep that finger, don’t stick it in somebody else’s mouth.
(use a clenched fist if you want to punch somebody in the face)
That doesn’t quite work, does it Mr. Tea?
I mean your “Bob” isn’t giving the finger, he’s taking the finger. For your little jape to parse nicely, “Bob” needs to be told to “give the finger” to those reform supporters.
Glad to help.
(Psst. OW, I see what you mean about conservatives and humor.)
Health care reform supporter bites off the finger of health care reform opponent
-After being punched. Include that part.
And “socialized medicine” saves the day!
My point was simply that her being disabled has no significance whatsoever. If it did, and if I was disabled, I would have an equally strong argument against the current bill, even though it shouldn’t matter. See?
And I didn’t say she needed qualification to have an opinion, I asked what qualified an opinion on the matter. In other words, what makes it credible (beyond merit, as the case appears to be).
Quaker, the accounts I’ve seen say that it was an ObamaCare guy that attacked an anti-ObamaCare guy, punching him, and the anti-guy bit the finger off — so the pro-ObamaCare guy who started the fracas and lost the digit.
So yeah, he “got in their face,” and paid for it.
J.
the accounts I’ve seen say that it was an ObamaCare guy that attacked an anti-ObamaCare guy, punching him, and the anti-guy bit the finger off — so the pro-ObamaCare guy who started the fracas and lost the digit.
Then once again, you’ve bungled the most rudimentary facts of the story.
When in Rome, Wilbur…
…do as the Visigoths do, Jay?
It’s still unclear, Quaker. But however it turns out, I don’t have a great deal of sympathy for the digitally-challenged. If you’re in a heated discussion and you stick your hand in someone’s face, then you’re basically asking for trouble.
When I’ve gotten into heated arguments, I make damned certain my hands stay by my side. And this is why.
J.
So, if I get in an accident and get disabled, and still oppose the current bill, can I then cancel her out?
No, because the main point is not that she’s disabled but that she’s disabled and the system meant to help her is fuqt.
No matter how much you were disabled and how much you hated on oogabooga soshalizzum, you would not cancel out the fact that the this woman is getting screwed.
The fact that she’s disabled just adds extra poignance to her plight, but she’s just one of millions -disabled and not disabled- that have suffered from the insane inequalities and inefficiencies and extravagant cost of the current healthcare chaos that you right-wingers are helping to perpetuate.
I disagree with your assessment of the main point.
I see that you do, in fact, see the main point, with which I also disagree.
Michael Over Here: I love how Jay Tea accuses me of having “Oliver’s scrotum” in my mouth and then goes on to state how he’s above “juvenile thrills” and actually wants to discuss things. Hypocrite or moron?
Both.
This is who they are. This is what they do.
Jay Tea: In a thread about “teabagging,” there are complaints that people are acting immaturely? PLEASE.
Heaven forbid we call them by the name they have given for themselves. Shame on us.
My part of the discussion is to abide by the juvenile, immature tone established up front and go along with it.
So, you’ll demonstrate your superior maturity by stooping to our level?
wingnut logic and maturity, ladies and gents
I believe that that poor lady in the wheel chair should have been accorded the same respect as, say, Charles Krauthammer, since we are all focused on the wheelchair.
You see, if any you had read Ann Coulter’s Godless, you would know that any victim qualifies as a saint in the Secular Church of Liberalism.
should have been accorded the same respect as, say, Charles Krauthammer, since we are all focused on the wheelchair
People on the left tend to be far more interested in Krauthammer’s insane and dishonest policy positions than on crude jokes about his disability. Also, one is a tv personality with a thick skin, the other is a regular citizen with a concern.
Heaven forbid we call them by the name they have given for themselves. Shame on us.
They gave the name to themselves? And where did you dig up this nugget of information?
They gave the name to themselves?
They were the first to say they would “teabag the White House”. In comedy, you never ever ever refuse a fat, slow pitch underhanded right over the plate.
Sociopaths cite Coulters ramblings. The disabled got that way because of some personal or moral failing, right? Grow a little compassion, even if you are in the autumn of your life.
You see, if any you had read Ann Coulter’s Godless, you would know that any victim qualifies as a saint in the Secular Church of Liberalism.
Of course, conservatives never, ever play the victim card. And if I had read Ann Coulter’s Godless, that would be evidence I had suffered a head injury.
Oliver, that’s your evidence? Some guy screws up with his language and that’s the proof that tea party protesters gave themselves the “teabagging” moniker? And even in doing so, I don’t believe he was talking about the act of putting his balls into another person’s mouth.
No, but they called themselves teabaggers from jump street. We took the ball and ran with it, so to speak.
It’s still unclear, Quaker.
Still unclear? You didn’t click the link Jay so helpfully provided:
Still unclear? Here’s a report from a local TV station:
Still unclear? Here’s an account from Gateway Pundit
Still unclear?
Sorry, that’s about all I can do for you.
Jay Tea has gone full troll.
Jay Tea: And how better to demonstrate how our current system works?
Yes, the man got his finger reattached. Thank goodness he was covered by MediCare.
Yes, that’s right. A government provided health care plan.
Stand by while Mr. Tea pivots from “He had it coming!” to “OMG! MoveOn thuggery!”
Mr. Tea isn’t as young and agile as he once was. These complex maneuvers take a bit longer these days.
Jay: And even in doing so, I don’t believe he was talking about the act of putting his balls into another person’s mouth.
Ya think?!
‘Cause if he was, that’s just gonna take all the humor out of it.
(wingnut awareness of humor, ladies and gents.)
It’s amusing how the focus has moved to the fact the guy should be thanking his lucky stars he had Medicare (as though he wouldn’t have gotten his finger re-attached anyway) and away from the fact that some Obama-supporting thug bit off an old man’s finger.
It’s amusing how the focus has moved to the fact the guy should be thanking his lucky stars
You know what else is amusing? How one of our longstanding conservative posters offered up the same type of hilarity when he thought the positions of the combatants were reversed.
I’m sure this says something about The Left, doesn’t it?
I find it considerably more amusing how the focus has moved from the wheelchair incident to the “Obama thug finger” incident. If you’re going to change the subject, you probably forfeit the right to complain when it’s changed on you.
Parthy –> TFJ!
Yes, the man got his finger reattached. Thank goodness he was covered by MediCare.
Yes, that’s right. A government provided health care plan.
You do realize that seniors who are opposed to Obamacare are opposed because they’re concerned what it will do to Medicare, particularly Medicare Advantage and NOT because they’re opposed to the program. You understand that don’t you?
Your attitude is born from the myth that anybody opposed to President Obama’s and the Democrats health care reform bill is opposed outright to health-care reform.
Like that idiot Josh Marshall whose latest tweet calls the guy an “anti health care reform protester.”
Parthenon, I just wanted to give people an example of the modern state of liberalism.
Like that idiot Josh Marshall whose latest tweet calls the guy an “anti health care reform protester.”
Jay, did you read the story you linked earlier?
Let me guess: An “anti health care reform protester” is entirely different from a protestor “who opposed health care reform.”
Jay: <i.You do realize that seniors who are opposed to Obamacare are opposed because they’re concerned what it will do to Medicare,
You do realize that many seniors who are opposed to health care reform are opposed because they’re concerned about it being a gov’t run program. While simultaneously saying they don’t want any gov’t involvement in Medicare.
They shoul’ve gone ‘Tommy Udo’ on her ass.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag6W2YQr63A&feature=related
Quaker, I read the story earlier, yes. You do realize the writer got the information from Sheriff’s department who spoke to the guy. You do realize that he doesn’t have all the facts and you do realize that it is not outside the bounds of reality for the reporter to just say the man “opposed health care reform” to distinguish him from the other man, right?
Again, being opposed to Obama’s plan does not mean one is opposed to any reform.
Do you think before you write this stuff or does being that obtuse come naturally?
You do realize that many seniors who are opposed to health care reform are opposed because they’re concerned about it being a gov’t run program.
Really? Where? I’d like to see some evidence of that. You see, there IS evidence that Obama said some savings for his overall health care legislation would come from eliminating Medicare Advantage. That program covers 1/5 of all Medicare participants.
being opposed to Obama’s plan does not mean one is opposed to any reform
And yet 99% of the time that’s a fact.
You do realize that seniors who are opposed to Obamacare are opposed because they’re concerned what it will do to Medicare,
You mean, make it available to other people?
You do realize the writer got the information from Sheriff’s department who spoke to the guy. You do realize that he doesn’t have all the facts and you do realize that it is not outside the bounds of reality for the reporter to just say the man “opposed health care reform” to distinguish him from the other man, right?
So of course, that makes Josh Marshall a big, fat idiot for using the very same language that’s in all the news accounts, right?
that Obama said some savings for his overall health care legislation would come from eliminating Medicare Advantage
Eliminating Medicare Advantage? Holy crap! That is a drastic change. Link?
Honestly? I have no idea how some of you defend those scumbags at those meetings. What the hell ever happen to courtesy? Or decency? Aw, fuck it! You guys will never understand, if you haven’t by now.
(Psst. Don’t anyone tell Jay. Mr. Obama has not, of course, proposed eliminating Medicare Advantage. Pretend like you don’t know!)
In a thread about “teabagging,” there are complaints that people are acting immaturely? PLEASE.
Hey, we didn’t start that.
You mean, make it available to other people?
Ding!
We have a winner!
They gave the name to themselves? And where did you dig up this nugget of information?
How
soonconveniently they forget.away from the fact that some Obama-supporting thug bit off an old man’s finger.
Perhaps if the crotchety old socialist hadn’t hit the thug with his cane first..
Jay: <i.and you do realize that it is not outside the bounds of reality for the reporter to just say the man “opposed health care reform” to distinguish him from the other man, right
And you do realize you can just disregard what is actually reported if you want it to be wrong?
I’d agree that most journalists today are not worthy of respect, but it would be better to actually have some facts available before you just “He’s making it up”.
SDM: You do realize that many seniors who are opposed to health care reform are opposed because they’re concerned about it being a gov’t run program.
Jay: Really? Where? I’d like to see some evidence of that.
OK
“very serious” analysts like Arthur Laffer
Thx for the laugh. Needed that.
I read a suggestion that when someone uses the phrase “teabag” in some form, simply ignore them — it’s obvious they’re more interested in juvenile thrills than actually discussing things. Made a bit of sense to me.
Really? Because from the looks of all the posts you’ve made in this thread, I’d say your experiment in ignoring is a failure.
Durablend, I don’t give a rat’s ass who came up with the term first. It’s stupid. It’s juvenile and asinine.
Translation: You’re pointing out my foolishness! No fair!
Honestly, you should really get your own. Not that I mind the laughs I get out of your moronic babbling, but a guy who constantly trolls a liberal site probably shouldn’t be giving much advice on internet decorum.
He did have his own, up until Wizbang fired him.
As for the finger-biting incident, read this, or
this for summary/commentary.
You see, if any you had read Ann Coulter’s Godless, you would know that any victim qualifies as a saint in the Secular Church of Liberalism.
Really, Frank, when you quote Ann Coulter, the same woman who advocated genocide in the Middle East and was happy that 9/11 happened, you kinda lose what little credibility you have left.
I tried saying that, PD, but your mother’s a stubborn, stubborn woman…
Invoke my mother? Allow me to make an extended offer, gimp.
Zython: Really, Frank, when you quote Ann Coulter, the same woman who advocated genocide in the Middle East and was happy that 9/11 happened, you kinda lose what little credibility you have left.
Frank had credibility left?
Frank gave himself a time-out for making Internet Tough-Guy Threats and then peeing his diaper when his bluff was called.
Frank, you really need to take a look at your sorry life.