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Maybe try upgrading from at Atari 800?

Being informed , or doing a few minutes research is obviously not your forte. Shooting your mouth off is about all you’re good at .

Zython, once again, you are wrong, I have been using the Internet since 1996 (when you were 4 years old), before IE even existed , and Netscape ruled the roost . Google cache shows there is a login required , which might be a problem.

I have opened the site before , so I don’t think my ISP has blocked it.
I tried Bing and found the predecessor to Pandagon.net, Pandagon.blogsome.com, where you are given a link to http://pandagon.net — It won’t open.

It WON’T open.

Wanna teach me some more about the Internet ?

You pay 300$/mo. for a subsidized government health plan, correct?

How is that not “socialist” medicine? And why are you such a hypocrite?

Works just fine for me. Maybe you need to use a different browser.

As for the rest, I have my doubts, but won’t pry, as it’s in the realm of possibility.

a) The question came from Jaim, not you.

b) You would have to know what my income is to know whether or not $298 a month is less than one-fifth of my income. I have no intention of telling you what my income is, but you are wrong – it is quite a bit more than one – fifth.

c) If anybody here would like to volunteer the information, who else is paying $298 a month, or more, for their medical plan, regardless of their income?

d) And since the quotes around socialized medicine are meant to imply that I get free medical care, that’s wrong, too.

So, Congratulations, Zython! You got stuff wrong you didn’t even know about.
Oh, and the link didn’t work, schmeckele

That’s nice. You know, people not benefiting from “socialized medicine” like you are paying nearly one-fifth of their income on health insurance.

Note to Quaker and Wilbur: What would be the relevancy of “questioning” it? The idea that it could happen was horrifying; the idea that it didn’t happen in India, or Indiana, for that matter, didn’t matter.

At the time I was reading it or watching it on television, it seemed authoritative.

El Cid: Gee, Cid, I don’t know. Why would you? A real puzzle, eh?

No, it’s a serious question. Given the plethora of blogs dedicated to discussing the details of Democratic proposals on health care (even the Ezra Klein WP blog), why is it somehow incumbent upon me to waste my time with a bunch of lunatic right wing trolls who come to Oliver Willis’ primarily snark blog and dedicate myself to these arguments with them which never go anywhere?

I watch you guys literally go on for months on this blog on these bullshit backs & forths in idiot pseudo-debates and all simply because you mainly want to come to a liberal snark blog and debate your insane paranoias about how you are the reincarnations of the signers of the Declaration of Independence, etc.

What? Is there a suggestion that you deserve it? That you have made some substantial point which has not been answered? What? What are you suggesting is my responsibility here?

Do I do this? Do I go to right wing blogs and fart out idiot questions and then troll around and demand that every commenter there drop their entire lives and suddenly revolve around answering my points?

What? What are you saying?

El Cid: Gee, Cid, I don’t know. Why would you? A real puzzle, eh?

Health insurance works as follows: You pay into a great big pool of money made up from people from all over the country. This great big pool of money, only a teeny tiny percentage of which came from you, is invested by the insurance company in various ways, with a portion set aside for the proverbial rainy day and another portion skimmed off the top to buy vacation homes and cadillacs for the insurance company managers. Then, when you get sick, you are reimbursed from that great big pool of money. If it was just your money in that pool, you’d die because yuo could hardly afford an aspirin in the hospital. You get treated because everyone else is paying for you, too.

All well and good, provided you don’t mind the vig the insurance company takes off the top as profit. Other than that, there is no difference between private health insurance or public health insurance. Well, no other difference than the ubiquitous horror stories we hear about the private insurer denying people their coverage for the most trivial reason simply in order to make themselves look good in their job.

Conservative response: “I’m not giving a red cent”

Actually, so-called “death panels” were and maybe still are being discussed in government, insofar as money for hospice services are concerned. There is nothing innately wrong with ceasing treatment and doping a patient to oblivion while they die, as Hospice basically does, I guess, but to say that these things aren’t discussed is ignorant or disingenuous.

The people who decide that it is time for Hospice-like procedure to step in are equatable to a death panel. The rub is that this goes on in private practise all the time, with no input from bureaucrats, but rather on direction and advice of the patient, the doctor and the family.

I think on this death panel “issue” that both sides are pretty well muddying the waters when they aren’t outright lying.

That would make us even , except I have ideas, and I can type. You seem to capable of neither.

Bullshit. You come to a god-damned liberal blog which isn’t some policy wonk forum but one in which the host posts various quips & comments mainly about right wing lunacy.

I have blogs and fora to go to in which to write about what I would prefer.

Instead, you losers come here, hoping to bore liberals and lefties to death with your bullshit about what you demand, otherwise you’ll poop your diapers.

Why would I? Why on Urf would I come to Oliver Willis’ blog to write impassioned screeds about my left wing vision of the world for a bunch of weirdo trolls? Why?

We insist they don’t exist because they don’t exist.