Real health care reform that includes a new public health insurance option would give Americans a real choice and not reward for-profit health insurers with 47 milllion new customers. Real health care reform that includes a new public health insurance option would cut out the administrative waste of private insurers and begin changing the way health care is delivered. Real health care reform that includes a new public health insurance option could adopt the kind of payment reforms that would start to “hold down long-term growth in health spending” and encourage providers to deliver care more efficiently. We know that premiums in the public option would be about 10 percent lower and that a real robust plan that piggy backs off of Medicare’s infrastructure could save us somewhere between $75 billion and $150 billion over 10 years.
Public health care is a necessity. Anything else is just denying this point.
Lemme put it this way: You will and do pay for people who do not have health care right now. Uninsured people still get sick, and poor people still have accidents. Now, which do you prefer: 1) a $150 doctors visit for an infection that can be treated with $40 dollars worth of penicillin or 2) a $3,000 ER visit and ambulance ride?
If you do not account for these people, you WILL be paying the more expensive option. And the insurance companies WILL pass that expense on to you. As they’ve been doing.
Everyone but the biggest dupes on the right are aware of this. They just know they stand to make too much money off it otherwise.
“I’m getting paid, bitch”-Max Baucus
Real health care reform that includes a new public health insurance option could adopt the kind of payment reforms that would start to “hold down long-term growth in health spending”
With a vast majority of health care spending in this country dedicated to the last 3 years of life, how are we going to “hold down long-term growth” without rationing elderly care?
Hello Death Panels!!!
Absolutely. Because the only way to hold down costs will be to euthanize old people. Nevermind we have the highest spending per capita of any industrialized nation, and receive the worst care among them all. Such a system is necessary if we are to ensure only the right people get care.
After all, far, far better to let millions of uninsured die than to cover them, as they do in every other industrialized nation. And the folks who get denied coverage after years of faithfully paying into their health programs? They understand they’re sacrifice is for the greater good. And the ones that survive, yet go bankrupt from care? They’re the greatest heroes of all, giving their all for their insurance companies and yet having the decency to remain alive that they may continue paying into the system.
The “Death Panel” trope isn’t for gullible dupes to puke around anywhere they think they can get an audience. It’s a valuable warning! Obliter’s planning death squads for the elderly, and gay islamo-marriages for the rest of us! WAKE UP LIBS!!!
Hello Death Panels!!!
We got ‘em now. They’re called insurance companies:
http://www.democracynow.org/2009/7/16/former_insurance_exec_wendell_porter
and
Read the whole thing if you still haven’t. Or is Wendell Potter like Hitler?
Nevermind we have the highest spending per capita of any industrialized nation, and receive the worst care among them all.
Wrong.
Oh, okay.
And what happens when you do the same for all the other countries?
I mean, if we’re going to play stat-fu.
Of course, because lord knows we couldn’t do something like decriminalize marijuana, as SF’s article advocates, AND reform health care so the entire country can get it.
See, such plans are mutually exclusive because the resulting increases in life expectancy would cause Americans to become immortal, which would mean we’d then all have to battle to the death in pursuit of the Quickening.
Sure, deaths from disease would vanish, but deaths from decapitation would increase a million billion percent. IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT LIBS???
Well, as long as the lightning storms and exploding windows take place in abandoned warehouses in faraway locations and not near anyone’s actual house, sure, why not?
how are we going to “hold down long-term growth” without rationing elderly care?
To borrow a slogan: “READ THE BILL!”
“Well, as long as the lightning storms and exploding windows take place in abandoned warehouses in faraway locations and not near anyone’s actual house, sure, why not?”
…You’ve convinced me.
Coincidentally I nominate Clancy Brown for Secretary of Health.
Any man who contends that there will be ‘death panels’ is a liar.
And I mean that specifically – liar. Not ‘mistaken’ or ‘duped’ or even ‘ignorant’. Liar.
The requirements to maintain the ongoing fiction that any sort of agency will have the ability to demand the forced execution of any person based on infirmity or disease has made a choice to not know something that easily verifiable, and has been freely offered many times.
And not just that, but they have chosen to not only believe this, but also believe that anyone would specifically create such an agency, which is tantamount to believing they are murderers, and specifically planning to kill people.
The only motive for it is to feel superior for not wanting to murder disabled children and the elderly, which is like congratulating yourself for being against eating a puppy.
That said, the people spreading this rumor should stop, because it makes them look like conspiracy theorists on par with folk who believe in the Lizard People and the Hollow Earth.
‘Hello Death Panels!!!’
This sort of comment is precisely the evidence necessary to conclude that many on the Right of the political spectrum will believe ANYTHING.
No wonder they think Reagan was brilliant and Bush was ordained by God.
‘Nevermind we have the highest spending per capita of any industrialized nation, and receive the worst care among them all.
Wrong.’
Not only is it not wrong, it’s never going to change while Republicans draw breath.
“Not only is it not wrong, it’s never going to change while Republicans draw breath.”
Actually a widespread case of cancer amongst the low-tooth-per-capita contingent that won’t be covered by private insurers is what I’m counting on.
Then again, history is supposed to redeem George Bush..
‘Then again, history is supposed to redeem George Bush..’
Not while the Sun rises in the East and sets in the West it won’t.