As a Democrat, I have no interest in bipartisanship with a GOP that “hopes he fails.” Honestly, the sooner we just ignore you guys completely the better off America will be. Your party has no ideas beyond “tax cut” and “bomb Iran.”

Because you’ve never lied about anyone?

And it does, indeed, look like the S.S. Obamacare is taking water.

Sorry bozo, but Obama’s health plan even if passed doesn’t kick in until 2013. Obama’s out there selling it like it’s a crisis NOW and we need to pass this NOW because we have a problem NOW, yet his “solution” is to wait for 4 years before doing anything. Obama’s actions belie the problem he’s selling, and it’s that disconnect that people are wising up towards.

I rediscovered your blog recently after many years of not reading. I’m enjoying it more than ever. Just saying hello. Ezra (from the old Minister.net)

I never thought I’d say this in my wildest dreams, but Obama needs to be like Bush.

Willie, Mr. Observer’s contention was that conservatives are more civil. Your rebuttal is wasted. Try to keep up.

I’m afraid that Tom Tomorrow has hit the nail on the head. The administration can look for bipartisanship and take the high road all it likes, but that doesn’t deliver results anymore.

When the bushies wanted something done, they just went ahead and did it. You have to give them that, even though they ended screwing the country up in the process.

What’s really amazing to me is the administration has a major league arm-twister in Emanuel, but I don’t see much arm-twisting going on.

My biggest fear right now is that the administration is as deeply in the pocket of big medicine as the congress is, which means we’re all screwed.

It amazes me how some of you think that the Government can be both the cause of, and solution to, all of our problems, based solely on which party has control of certain parts at arbitrary times.
Doubleplus ditto

You give the peeps too much credit. They’re “heated” because of runaway spending that began with Generalissimo Bush, who hid the cost of the war while instituting the only wartime tax CUT known to medical science, that continued with an SEC failure that led to the economic meltdown, that led to massive unemployment and necessitated huge, counterintuitive but NECESSARY government expenditure to bail out Wall Street. Even economists are disgusted (but don’t fault our current administration); even liberals are aware of the ironies of spend-to-save planning, which nevertheless compute, which nevertheless will involve a health plan that will immediately benefit MILLIONS of ORDINARY FOLKS–unlike anything else that’s been done in the past nine years. But is all that hard for the average American to understand and consciously admit to? Sure. Is it easier to get angry at a concrete Democratic plan than at years of Republican smoke and mirrors, especially when manipulated by powerstarved Cons, Big Pharma, Big Insurance and their whores in media and Congress? Sure.

Medicad and Social Security were nowhere near as comprehensive when they were first passed as when they were now.

To jump off-point from the original post, this is exactly why people are so heated in their opposition to the proposed reform legislation.

Can we please get our minds out of this “who’s-winning-the-election-cycle this week” mentality and think for once?!?

You can’t sell health care like it was a war. Doesn’t work. Wars get dictated through presidential fiat these days; you need a whole lot of votes to pass a major domestic bill. That mean compromises, trial balloons, and a focus on the long game. Medicad and Social Security were nowhere near as comprehensive when they were first passed as when they were now. Once we get past the hurdle of getting a system in place, even an imperfect one, then it becomes far, far easier to improve it.

Fortunately, Obama gets this. Unsurprisingly, most bloggers and casual observers of the political game (We want change – NOW!!!) don’t.

Or, to quote the immortal words put into the President’s mouth: “Chill the fuck out. I got this.”

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-august-17-2009/heal-or-no-heal—medicine-brawl

Love to throw a dinner party and enjoy their collective civility, not to say intelligence, bonhomie, and eloquence. Some of my favorite public people.

Says a lying sack of shit.

As, usual, AO, you exemplify NONE of those qualities.

This from someone who hurls racist epithets on blogs using someone else’s name.

Those are the qualities you exemplify, Zython.