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August 17th, 2009
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Oliver Willis
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So true.
All Washington Generals All the time
The country would be a much more civil place, much more lawful, and all together much more productive.
You seem to have hit the ’submit’ button too soon, a.o. Let me fix that for you:
The country would be a much more civil place, much more lawful, and all together much more productive… if the remaining republicans retired from public life and took up knitting.
As, usual, AO, you exemplify NONE of those qualities.
More civil? You mean like Mr. DeLay? Or Mr. Armey? Or perhaps Mr. Cheney? Mssrs. Hannity and Limbaugh?
Renowned for their civility, each and every one.
When they repeal NSPD-51 & the patriot act I might consider agreeing.
This from someone who hurls racist epithets on blogs using someone else’s name.
Those are the qualities you exemplify, Zython.
Those are the qualities you exemplify, Zython.
Says a lying sack of shit.
Reid, Pelosi, Boxer, Waters, Moore, Olbermann…”Renowned for their civility, each and every one.”
“Reid, Pelosi, Boxer, Waters, Moore, Olbermann…”
Love to throw a dinner party and enjoy their collective civility, not to say intelligence, bonhomie, and eloquence. Some of my favorite public people.
If Democrats behaved more like Republicans, they would ‘be’ Republicans. Not that I don’t bemoan their “cojones de coton”. You mean that you wish that they would storm ruthlessly into the fray and get things done, as do I.
Jon Stewart said it best: If the Dems could just stick to their message….
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-august-17-2009/heal-or-no-heal—medicine-brawl
Let me get this straight: You’re out here wishing that we were more like the political party that GOT THEIR COLLECTIVES RUMPS KICKED TO THE CURB LAST ELECTION?!?
Can we please get our minds out of this “who’s-winning-the-election-cycle this week” mentality and think for once?!?
You can’t sell health care like it was a war. Doesn’t work. Wars get dictated through presidential fiat these days; you need a whole lot of votes to pass a major domestic bill. That mean compromises, trial balloons, and a focus on the long game. Medicad and Social Security were nowhere near as comprehensive when they were first passed as when they were now. Once we get past the hurdle of getting a system in place, even an imperfect one, then it becomes far, far easier to improve it.
Fortunately, Obama gets this. Unsurprisingly, most bloggers and casual observers of the political game (We want change – NOW!!!) don’t.
Or, to quote the immortal words put into the President’s mouth: “Chill the fuck out. I got this.”
To jump off-point from the original post, this is exactly why people are so heated in their opposition to the proposed reform legislation.
“this is exactly why people are so heated in their opposition to the proposed reform legislation.”
You give the peeps too much credit. They’re “heated” because of runaway spending that began with Generalissimo Bush, who hid the cost of the war while instituting the only wartime tax CUT known to medical science, that continued with an SEC failure that led to the economic meltdown, that led to massive unemployment and necessitated huge, counterintuitive but NECESSARY government expenditure to bail out Wall Street. Even economists are disgusted (but don’t fault our current administration); even liberals are aware of the ironies of spend-to-save planning, which nevertheless compute, which nevertheless will involve a health plan that will immediately benefit MILLIONS of ORDINARY FOLKS–unlike anything else that’s been done in the past nine years. But is all that hard for the average American to understand and consciously admit to? Sure. Is it easier to get angry at a concrete Democratic plan than at years of Republican smoke and mirrors, especially when manipulated by powerstarved Cons, Big Pharma, Big Insurance and their whores in media and Congress? Sure.
It amazes me how some of you think that the Government can be both the cause of, and solution to, all of our problems, based solely on which party has control or certain parts at arbitrary times.
If only the Democrats could be as good as they think they are, they might help this country, instead of wasting their time proving they are better than they think Republicans are.
It amazes me how some of you think that the Government can be both the cause of, and solution to, all of our problems, based solely on which party has control of certain parts at arbitrary times.
Doubleplus ditto
I don’t get why that’s so hard to believe. One party actually believes in government and I doesn’t. It’d be like putting James Dobson in charge of the Biology Department at Harvard.
If the government weren’t seemingly so bad right now it could be the solution to most of our problems.
I’m afraid that Tom Tomorrow has hit the nail on the head. The administration can look for bipartisanship and take the high road all it likes, but that doesn’t deliver results anymore.
When the bushies wanted something done, they just went ahead and did it. You have to give them that, even though they ended screwing the country up in the process.
What’s really amazing to me is the administration has a major league arm-twister in Emanuel, but I don’t see much arm-twisting going on.
My biggest fear right now is that the administration is as deeply in the pocket of big medicine as the congress is, which means we’re all screwed.
Reid, Pelosi, Boxer, Waters, Moore, Olbermann…”Renowned for their civility, each and every one.”
Willie, Mr. Observer’s contention was that conservatives are more civil. Your rebuttal is wasted. Try to keep up.
I hate to admit it OW, but it’s because the Dems are NOT being Republican-like that their initiatives are getting pimp-smacked all over the place. For years, Republicans have dominated the PR battle…while the Obama administration is trying to call for bipartisanship.
I never thought I’d say this in my wildest dreams, but Obama needs to be like Bush.
Hi Oliver,
I rediscovered your blog recently after many years of not reading. I’m enjoying it more than ever. Just saying hello. Ezra (from the old Minister.net)
which nevertheless will involve a health plan that will immediately benefit MILLIONS of ORDINARY FOLKS–unlike anything else that’s been done in the past nine years.
Sorry bozo, but Obama’s health plan even if passed doesn’t kick in until 2013. Obama’s out there selling it like it’s a crisis NOW and we need to pass this NOW because we have a problem NOW, yet his “solution” is to wait for 4 years before doing anything. Obama’s actions belie the problem he’s selling, and it’s that disconnect that people are wising up towards.
I’m waiting for the day when “bipartisanship” doesn’t mean ‘do what the Democrats want’. Then I’ll believe Democrats have an interest in bipartisanship.
And it does, indeed, look like the S.S. Obamacare is taking water.
This from someone who hurls racist epithets on blogs using someone else’s name.
Because you’ve never lied about anyone?
“Then I’ll believe Democrats have an interest in bipartisanship.”
As a Democrat, I have no interest in bipartisanship with a GOP that “hopes he fails.” Honestly, the sooner we just ignore you guys completely the better off America will be. Your party has no ideas beyond “tax cut” and “bomb Iran.”