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Brits push back via Twitter on conservative attacks on their health care system. We should be so lucky as to have something like the NHS.
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Yes, we’re so lucky.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1162552/Brown-apologises-unacceptable-failings-Stafford-Third-World-hospital.html
Yes, 1 bad hospital invalidates the British people’s trust in their national health care system. Do you know what the 2 parties in the UK fight about? Who can best run NHS. Not whether they should have one in the first place.
Sort of like how Republicans know better than to try to attack/privatize social security. Why? Because for all its faults it actually works for people.
Because for all its faults it actually works for people.
Well, it will for the next 7 years anyway. Maybe.
Yes Jay, they did fuck up and and its being investigated by a Healthcare Commission with a chance of criminal charges to follow.
Unlike here with good ‘ol ‘Murican healthcare, insurance providers can deny their customers coverage for any reason and tell them to fuck off -Much in the same way I’m telling you! wheeee!!
Jay et al, google “Tommy Douglas”. The father of single payer health care in Canada is a national frickin hero. Voted in 2004 the greatest Canadian, ahead of Sir John A. MacDonald, Trudeau, Gretzky, Lester Pearson, Alexander Graham Bell.
40 years of single payer, and it is more popular than hockey. No death panels, no rationing, full access, no slow drift into Stalinism. Try it, you’ll like it! You have nothing to fear but your own paranoia.
Gumby,
As a Canadian (and an American) I second your comment.
The lunatic wingnut fringe has a lot of people in developed nations scratching their heads.
You have to wonder how people would actually rally against health care for all citizens, in favor of maintaining the status quo of the corporate state which is demonstrably acting against the well-being of the citizenry. Time for these morans to get a brain.
Yes, we’re so lucky.
Because shit like that never happens in America.
Farris, if John McCain had his way, Social Security would already be broke.
40 years of single payer, and it is more popular than hockey. No death panels, no rationing, full access, no slow drift into Stalinism.
This is exactly why the ‘pubs are opposed to it. They KNOW people will like it, and will hurt them politically. Several pundits have even admitted to such.
Hmm, side with notoriously wrong Jay or world-renowned scientist Stephen Hawking?
OH NOES I CAN’T DECIDE!
Jaim,
good point. Assuming Hawking was an American citizen without health insurance when he was diagnosed with ALS, what sort of shape would he be in today?
Well on the Republican health plan, he could always pray that his ailments went away. Or the gigantic bills his family would rack up.
I don’t really comment on US healthcare because I really can’t wrap my head around it. Someone breaks their leg and at some point down the line the question “how can we make a profit on this” is asked. That is f*cked up. I don’t really see how debate needs to go much further than that. Would you be ok with the same question being asked before the fire department put out a burning house or before the police bother to arrest a thief ?
I don’t really comment on US healthcare because I really can’t wrap my head around it. Someone breaks their leg and at some point down the line the question “how can we make a profit on this” is asked.
No different that buying a Hummer…”I can’t afford it, so I don’t get one” (in response to a woman who said she can’t afford to insure her family) said the wingnut they interviewed on CNN.
This whole “death panel” thing is just projection from the right IMO…they’d love nothing more than to dispose of anyone who they don’t determine to be “worthy”
“We should be so lucky as to have something like the NHS.”
Really, Oliver?
You mean the NHS that would deny you services, such as hip and knee replacements because you’re tubby?
If someone smokes or has smoked int he past, should they be denied cancer treatment? The NHS has studied that question.
You haven’t the slightest clue as to what you wish for.
Phil, I suppose in America you get denied care not becuase you’re tubby or happened to smoke (though I think that is a lie about the NHS) but becuase you’re poor. After all if you pay then the insurance companies will happily take your cash, regardless.
If people want to talk about death panels, then lets. It seems to me they already exist in the USA. They are called Medical Insurance Companies and some broker sat in a room has the job to decided who is profitable and therefore gets treatment, and who is not and so doesn’t. The actual health of the client…..secondary issue of little relevance. It’s all about the insurance companies bottom line…..
You haven’t the slightest clue as to what you wish for.
And like Martyn said you don’t have the foggiest idea of what’s going on now (via everyone’s friends the insurance companies) without Obama’s “Oooh so scaaary death panels”
Maybe if you extracted your head from your anus you’d notice but I doubt it.
Isnt the NHS partly private anyway…. Shame our data isnt!
We have put up with a degraded and shambolic NHS for too long.
Perhaps we have forgotten that other countries have the right to make undercover documentaries about the true scale of the horrors that NHS staff know they can get away with – and we are still telling everyone that the NHS is the envy of the world!
Now we are beginning so see what the real world think of our health AUTHORITIES.
Most of my former NHS colleagues share these sentiments, and are glad to finally be away from the dictators who make life such a misery for NHS staff.