Teabaggers: “Death To Obama”

August 12th, 2009 Health Care Maryland Tea Party 41 Comments


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41 Responses to “Teabaggers: “Death To Obama””

  1. Kevin says:
    August 12, 2009 at 4:32 pm

    I’m tellin’ ya… someone is going to act out/up at one of these things and people will be hurt

  2. revenantive says:
    August 12, 2009 at 4:34 pm

    I believe that the entire teabag movement is completely filled with people who truly hate the USA.

    The 1950s were over 60 years ago, and I’m afraid none of the bozos who participate in this scam will ever be comfortable with a world that just doesn’t fit nicely into their small minded world and silly backwards conservative value systems.

    It’s really sad that these events seem to bring out the absolute worst in people. I hope the secret service has a nice little talk and shakes down the person who carried the ‘death to obama’ sign.

    What a disgrace.

  3. matt621 says:
    August 12, 2009 at 4:37 pm

    Take two Cokes and call me in the morning.

  4. sherifffruitfly says:
    August 12, 2009 at 4:44 pm

    And the party of Lincoln officially becomes the party of John Wilkes Booth.

  5. El Cid says:
    August 12, 2009 at 4:51 pm

    As a liberal / leftie who finds most of this teabagger nut movement amusing, potentially leading to violence, and harmful to the Republican agenda, I wouldn’t try to suggest that no insulting or degrading terms came only from the right.

    Hell, I wouldn’t as much mind comparisons of Obama to Hitler if it actually made a fucking point, like if the teabaggers opposed Obama’s continuation of Bush Jr’s discussion of detaining people without trial, which again, is still not a full Hitler. But not ‘reforming health care insurance’.

  6. anotherbozo says:
    August 12, 2009 at 4:52 pm

    Yeah, that sign’s clearly in Glenn Beck territory.

    I wonder if anyone else gets the monstrous irony of all this. You have a flag-waving president who cons us into a hugely expensive war and presides over economic disaster, then he and his successor do what is sure to enrage the jobless and homeless population, ie, send billions more to the greedy bastards who created it. The newly broke don’t have any input into those disasters, and the first time they ARE asked for their opinion it’s for something that could actually BENEFIT them. So of course–goaded and abetted by wingnut media–they say take my benefits and SHOVE them! Here, gimme that shotgun, it’s pointed at my foot but it’ll feel so GOOD to pull the trigger!

    If the health bill goes down there will be diagrams on CNN of how this all happened, best-selling books on Amazon with chapters on Impotent Rage, How to Channel Racism and Fear, and How Frustration Boiled over into Self-Annihilation.

  7. Dennis says:
    August 12, 2009 at 5:11 pm

    If the health bill goes down there will be diagrams on CNN of how this all happened, best-selling books on Amazon with chapters on Impotent Rage, How to Channel Racism and Fear, and How Frustration Boiled over into Self-Annihilation.

    Hehe. Good one. To be a bestseller, you’ll need to get a conservative writer to write it, anotherbozo.

    Because the current book with chapters on Impotent Rage, How to Channel Racism and Fear, and How Frustration Boiled over into Self-Annihilation, ain’t doin’ so hot. #20,897 currently.

  8. El Cid says:
    August 12, 2009 at 5:16 pm

    I’d rather read nothing but poorly selling but useful, well-researched books than any number of idiot barkings from wingnut shit-heads. Wow! Michelle Malkin’s book is on Amazon, and it’s doing better than a real book! Woot!

    Very few of the books I ever learned the most from were on the best seller lists. (Well, except those weird occasions on which Hugo Chavez waves one around and sales go through the roof, but that’s a truly odd phenomenon.)

    Still, he’s got a point — if David Neiwert’s book isn’t selling well enough, you’re much better off reading Mark Levin’s trash.

  9. Oliver Willis says:
    August 12, 2009 at 5:43 pm

    Analysis from Bill Sammon, oh my I can’t stop laughing.

  10. Dennis says:
    August 12, 2009 at 5:44 pm

    It’s not selling at all, El Cid. With Mark Levin’s book, you know what you’re getting. With Neiwert’s book, you guys think you’re getting well-researched, objective data, but you’re getting him as if he were sitting down talking to Keith Olbermann and the topic was ‘So how about those racist right-wingers, Dave?’

  11. El Cid says:
    August 12, 2009 at 5:55 pm

    With Neiwert’s book, you guys think you’re getting well-researched, objective data, but you’re getting him as if he were sitting down talking to Keith Olbermann and the topic was ‘So how about those racist right-wingers, Dave?’

    I don’t think you heard me. I don’t care how well or ill it sells. I have treasured books that probably never sold outside some specialized or academic setting.

    But you’re right about one thing: at least with Mark Levin’s book, I’d know what I was getting.

  12. El Cid says:
    August 12, 2009 at 6:02 pm

    By the way, FWIW (little), Neiwert’s books is in the roughly 21K on Amazon out of ALL books, but is #43 in the category:

    Any Category > Books > Nonfiction > Social Sciences > Sociology > Race Relations > America

    #52 is C. Vann Woodward’s classic The Strange Career of Jim Crow.

  13. Mike says:
    August 12, 2009 at 6:08 pm

    With Neiwert’s book, you guys think you’re getting well-researched, objective data,

    We are. You wouldn’t recognize good research if it slapped you in the face. But you’re a right-wing asshole who’s also profoundly stupid, so that’s not a surprise.

  14. Lefty-Righty says:
    August 12, 2009 at 6:11 pm

    Oliver….just because the meeting was not “representative” of Maryland does not mean that Mr. Cardin does not have to answer his constituents. They are paying taxes which go to pay Mr. Cardin.

    Wake up and realize that just because someone disagrees with you does not make them the enemy or ignorant. If that were logical than what holds true for one side would hold true for the other side. Thus both sides of an argument are ignorant and therefore no one has the upper hand.

  15. Lefty-Righty says:
    August 12, 2009 at 6:17 pm

    Mike… You seem to be the one that is an ass-hole. You don’t support you “well researched” claim but expect everyone else to accept the book’s research based on your anger and profanity. Maybe you should stop reading that book by Neiwert and read a book on making a coherent argument or debating. Appears it would be time well spent.

  16. Oliver Willis says:
    August 12, 2009 at 6:25 pm

    It’s Dave’s fault for not having a multimillion dollar book buying and purchasing machine behind him, also actual research and not crayon scratches like Malkin.

  17. Burn says:
    August 12, 2009 at 6:28 pm

    Trying to judge a book’s merit based on sales rankings at Amazon is supposed to show what exactly?

    You cannot argue with the content of the book, so you think that because it’s ranked where it is somehow diminished the book as a whole?

    So, are you 16 years old or something?

    Maybe Soros can buy his own book club and publishing house to make bulk purchases of their own books, so they can brag about having a #1 bestseller, then he can huck them out at $1 apiece on some website, like the wingnuts do, eh??

  18. Oliver Willis says:
    August 12, 2009 at 6:31 pm

    Also, this reminds me of one of my favorite book reviews, Slate’s Dahlia Lithwick reviews Mark Levin’s “Men In Black”:

    I use the word “book” with some hesitation: Certainly it possesses chapters and words and other book-like accoutrements. But Men in Black is 208 large-print pages of mostly block quotes (from court decisions or other legal thinkers) padded with a foreword by the eminent legal scholar Rush Limbaugh, and a blurry 10-page “Appendix” of internal memos to and from congressional Democrats—stolen during Memogate. The reason it may take you only slightly longer to read Men in Black than it took Levin to write it is that you’ll experience an overwhelming urge to shower between chapters.

    …

    Men in Black never gets past the a.m.-radio bile to arrive at cogent analysis. Each of the first three chapters ends with the word “tyranny.” Absent any structure or argument, this book could just have been titled Legal Decisions I Really, Really Hate. Levin follows the lead of lazy pundits everywhere who excoriate “activist judges” without precisely defining what constitutes one. He offers four random examples of “activist decisions” which mysteriously include Dred Scott v. Sandford (which was nothing of the sort) and Korematsu v. United States (a decision he trashes for its deference to executive-branch authority in wartime shortly before shredding the current Supreme Court for refusing to uphold the same principle in last summer’s enemy-combatant cases). Levin rails for the first half of his book about the ways in which the high court usurps Congress and the president, then rails about the court’s failure to strike down their campaign finance law.

    And his attempts to draw telling distinctions between similar cases—any legal scholar’s primary task—are almost laughably off-mark. Take this example: Discussing last summer’s Rasul v. Bush case, Levin dismisses Justice Stevens’ analysis distinguishing enemy combatants in a 1950 opinion from the enemy combatants at Guantanamo Bay because “the principle is the same” and “the two cases are identical in two significant respects.” If judges in fact got to decide cases based solely on the fact that “the principle is the same”—that is, that each case is kinda analogous—we really would have a runaway judiciary.

  19. Dennis says:
    August 12, 2009 at 6:42 pm

    You cannot argue with the content of the book, so you think that because it’s ranked where it is somehow diminished the book as a whole?

    Burn, anotherbozo brought up the idea of someone likely writing a best-selling book on the almost exact same criteria as Neiwert’s book. It wasn’t a point of contention to argue the merits of his book, just that a-bozo said someone would write a bestselling book about these topics. Since he has that kind of a book, one that is flogged often on liberal blogs, and referred to often when instances of right-wing militia and nutjobs comes up, it was worth telling him that that book is nowhere close to being a bestseller. If you want to argue the merits, we can have a go at it.

    Maybe Soros can buy his own book club and publishing house to make bulk purchases of their own books, so they can brag about having a #1 bestseller, then he can huck them out at $1 apiece on some website, like the wingnuts do, eh??

    You guys keep laying this canard out there like it’s a truism. I’d like to look into it. Do you have any proof of this or any link from a verifiable source? And it’s refreshing to find someone on the Left who will admit that Soros is your sugar-daddy.

  20. Burn says:
    August 12, 2009 at 7:02 pm

    Sorry Dennis, this isn’t from your favorite reputable source Stormfront, it’s the EVIL NT TIMES

    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/07/books/07cons.html?_r=1&ex=1352091600&en=20698194ea201579&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

    In your face, asshole.

  21. Burn says:
    August 12, 2009 at 7:04 pm

    I was actually joking about Soros too, but that shows how fucking dumb you really are, thinking I was serious.

    Mention Soros, and whatever IQ points the wingnuts have drops another 20.

  22. El Cid says:
    August 12, 2009 at 7:10 pm

    If you want to argue the merits, we can have a go at it.

    Please, no, just, no.

  23. freD says:
    August 12, 2009 at 7:21 pm

    The top three all time best sellers:
    1. The Bible
    2. Mao’s little red book
    3. The Koran
    All anti-materialistic. I blame Soros.

  24. Dennis says:
    August 12, 2009 at 7:22 pm

    In your face, asshole.

    Burned, it’d be in my face if there had been a decision in the case. As it is, anyone can file a lawsuit.

    Aside from that, it comes nowhere close, not even in the same universe, of explaining the overall book sales of bestselling conservative tomes.

    I was actually joking about Soros too, but that shows how fucking dumb you really are, thinking I was serious.

    How would anyone know you were serious, Burned, you’ve only shown your one-dimensional asshole side here. You’ve never joked about anything.

  25. Dennis says:
    August 12, 2009 at 7:26 pm

    The top three all time best sellers:
    1. The Bible
    2. Mao’s little red book
    3. The Koran

    Well, congrats, freDdosso, at least book #2 is one liberals have supported and moved up on the bestseller list. So they’ve got that goin’ for them.

  26. jr says:
    August 12, 2009 at 7:26 pm

    “we’re only pro-life if the person is white”-cons

  27. matt621 says:
    August 12, 2009 at 7:29 pm

    As has been said before, Oliver, you are perfectly entitled to your own opinions, but you are not entitled to your own facts.

    You see, Sammon’s analysis? I don’t frankly give a shit. But the facts he cites are not in dispute. Death to President X is a common refrain.

    You want to treat it like a new and awful thing. But for a guy who points and laughs about others not opening history books, you surely are an idiot of the first order. I know you haven’t been asleep for the last eight years, so I must conclude that you, like your pal fafaroo, are simply dumb on purpose.

    Another fact not in dispute.

  28. El Cid says:
    August 12, 2009 at 7:30 pm

    Look, yes, there is an artificial sales pumping going on, particularly in the right wing book industry, but that doesn’t mean that they wouldn’t otherwise be bestsellers. Right wing ideological tracts have always sold well in this country. Good lord, Reader’s Digest was one of the favorite vectors of dumping right wing shit into the laps of patients’ waiting rooms everywhere. (See “Can This Man Save Africa?”)

  29. Zython says:
    August 12, 2009 at 7:49 pm

    Dennis, I’ll just say that the Backstreet Boys were the #1 band in America once. Popularity != quality.

  30. anotherbozo says:
    August 12, 2009 at 8:00 pm

    Since my comment started this tangential irrelevance, let me add: my observation would have been wiser if I’d said an “obscure analysis” rather than bestseller. Part of our problem is that we don’t read our wisest writing, e.g., “What’s the Matter with Kansas,” “Who Rules America,” else we would be in a lot better shape than we are.

    I notice that the bestselling nonfiction currently atop the New York Times bestseller list is “Glenn Beck’s ‘Common Sense.’” (sigh) What’s been said about popularity, even among the book-buying, is as infinitely sad as it is true.

  31. El Cid says:
    August 12, 2009 at 9:36 pm

    Since it was mentioned:

    Sociologist of the U.S. power structure G. William Domhoff now has his 6th edition released of the famed and long-selling text Who Rules America, now subtitled, post 2008, “Challenges to Corporate and Class Dominance”.

    My book, Who Rules America?, presents detailed original information on how power and politics operate in the United States. The first edition came out in 1967 and is ranked 12th on the list of 50 best sellers in sociology between 1950 and 1995. A second edition, Who Rules America Now?, arrived in 1983 and landed at #43 on the same list. Third and fourth editions followed in 1998 and 2002, and the fifth edition, upon which most of this web site is based, came out in 2006.

    The sixth edition of WRA has just been released, and is available at Amazon.com (and other bookstores). This new edition has information on the rise of Barack Obama, his campaign finance supporters, and the nature of his administration. The last chapter focuses on the potential for serious challenges to class and corporate dominance. It does not have answers, but it raises the key questions and states the possibilities, noting that the strategies and tactics adopted by activists are an essential part of the power equation…

    Questions and Answers

    Q: So, who does rule America?

    A: The owners and managers of large income-producing properties; i.e., corporations, banks, and agri-businesses. But they have plenty of help from the managers and experts they hire. You can read the essential details of the argument in this summary of Who Rules America?, or look for the book itself at Amazon.com.

    Q: Do the same people rule at the local level that rule at the federal level?

    A: No, not quite. The local level is dominated by the land owners and businesses related to real estate that come together as growth coalitions, making cities into growth machines.

    Q: Do they rule secretly from behind the scenes, as a conspiracy?

    A: No, conspiracy theories are wrong, though it’s true that some corporate leaders lie and steal, and that some government officials try to keep things secret (but usually fail).

    Q: Then how do they rule?

    A: That’s a complicated story, but the short answer is through open and direct involvement in policy planning, through participation in political campaigns and elections, and through appointments to key decision-making positions in government.

    Q: Are you saying that elections don’t matter?

    A: No, but they usually matter a lot less than they could, and a lot less in America than they do in other industrialized democracies. That’s because of the nature of the electoral rules and the unique history of the South.

    Q: Does social science research have anything useful to say about making progressive social change more effective?

    A: Yes, it does, but few if any people pay much attention to that research.

    Pay attention to that last line. He’s got a dry sense of humor.

  32. Tyro says:
    August 12, 2009 at 10:08 pm

    you’re getting him as if he were sitting down talking to Keith Olbermann

    What on earth does this sentence even mean?

  33. tangent58 says:
    August 13, 2009 at 1:27 am

    Since the elderly are not a very intellectual lot anyway it does’nt surprise me they would not be able to comprehend what an “Advance Directive” is. These same people more than likely wouldn’t have a problem going for the death penalty, yet the death penalty for them is some kind of sin. Perhaps they should be careful what they ask for someone else, it has been known to come back on you.
    I’ve read the entire proposal and nothing of what the dumb people keep addressing at the town hall meetings is in the proposal. Perhaps people should read for themsleves instead of letting the black hearted people, Beck, Limbaugh etc. define for them what they should beleive or think. For those out there that think that Medicare or Medicaid, Veterans Benefits, Social Security are gov’t run, TURN IN YOUR CARDS AND STOP LIVING OFF THE DOLE OF THE GOV’T. GET A JOB AND TAKE CARE OF YOURSELVES.

  34. tangent58 says:
    August 13, 2009 at 1:32 am

    Furthermore, the people that are showing up at these meetings don’t appear to have the brains god gave an animal. Especially the elderly. Most of their lives someone has told them what they should think or believe and they feel very comfortable with that. I know that if they don’t want gov’t to run their health care, then I’m equally tired of paying into the system and coving them. They are not more entitled to free health care than anyone else.

  35. tangent58 says:
    August 13, 2009 at 1:39 am

    Health care reform will be passed, the Republicans aren’t needed to pass it. Obama has given the Reps. more than enough opportunity not to be the party of “No” and “ignorance” He was voted in by a majority of Americans who were in agreement with his Health Care agenda. So for those of you that think you can or are even able to stop it, think again. You are wasting your voice over an issue you aren’t capable of understanding.

  36. tangent58 says:
    August 13, 2009 at 1:42 am

    All anyone has to do is superimpose the hoods of the Kaln on the people at the townhall meetings and the same mentality abounds.

  37. anotherbozo says:
    August 13, 2009 at 7:23 am

    tangent58, I wish I shared your optimism, but at this point nothing would surprise me. The MSM are teetering on the “question” of health care reform (the misleading question, “can we afford it right now?” keeps getting repeated, and the unspoken question, “will our pharma advertisers drop us if we tell the truth?”) and the MSM are the ones who turned on Gore in 2000 (“stiff,” “arrogant,” “invented the internet,” etc.) and allowed Bush to get within stealing distance of the election.

    “Furthermore, the people that are showing up at these meetings don’t appear to have the brains god gave an animal. Especially the elderly.”
    The median age of these confused losers is an embarrassment, since I’m 66 myself. What I can figure is that many are bigots, stuck in the 1950’s, whose unexamined prejudices allow them to be manipulated more than most other benighted souls. And we all know how voluble and grouchy most oldsters are. It comes with the territory.

  38. Duros62 says:
    August 13, 2009 at 11:54 am

    To be a bestseller, you’ll need to get a conservative writer to write it, anotherbozo.

    Because the current book with chapters on Impotent Rage, How to Channel Racism and Fear, and How Frustration Boiled over into Self-Annihilation

    I agree. They are the leading experts on impotent rage, racism and fear, and self-annihilation.

  39. Duros62 says:
    August 13, 2009 at 11:55 am

    Health care reform will be passed,

    And we’ll be okay. Honest.

  40. Duros62 says:
    August 13, 2009 at 11:59 am

    Well, congrats, freDdosso, at least book #2 is one liberals have supported and moved up on the bestseller list. So they’ve got that goin’ for them.

    Fuck you.

  41. Dennis says:
    August 13, 2009 at 12:15 pm

    OMG, Duros, that was my best line of the day. Lighten up and relax. Life’s too short.

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