’)Kenneth Gladney is the black conservative who is the current poster boy for the thug right. His account of a beating at the hands of union members is pretty suspect. And considering the history of black conservatives willing to do anything for a buck, I’d take the testimony of Kenneth Gladney with a giant grain silo of salt.
Not to worry, Oliver. For daring to question his betters, Gladney will get the full Joe The Plumber treatment. I expect public disclosure of his unpaid parking tickets within four days, max.
And if there’s anything more scandalous in his past, that’ll be out there, too. Count on it.
J.
Why can’t these darned people just shut up and let the gubbamint take care of everything for them? Liberty and self reliance is sooo overrated.
If they’d just shut up they wouldn’t get hurt!
Limbaugh told his listeners Gladney was in the hospital for two days.
The Joe The Sam treatment? You mean, get on Fox for a few months, sent on foreign junkets, and get a book ghostwritten for you while you bitch incoherently about crap you really don’t know that much about?
I’m sure it’ll be hell for him.
Holy crap, he has a possible record deal in the works, according to Wiki! This makes me sad and happy at the same time.
What abanterer said. The conservative victim train is all out of coal.
Sorry, banterer, I meant things like state officials illegally digging through and releasing his confidential records, every single detail of his life (and his family’s life) plastered all over the media, and in general his entire life turned upside down for being uppity enough to dare challenge his betters.
J.
in general his entire life turned upside down for being uppity enough to dare challenge his betters
You mean the part where he became essentially a part of the McCain campaign? I don’t endorse the illegal digging into JTP, but he made himself into a political target and continues to do so. I’m still waiting for his big report from the front in the middle east via pajamas tv.
Did they carve a B in his face? Or was it SEIU?
I don’t know about EVERY detail, Gabe.
After all, he never did produce a birth certificate.
I say we put the burden of proof on the wingnuts. Here’s your chance, scoop truthers.
I say we put the burden of proof on the wingnuts. Here’s your chance, scoop truthers.
You’ll rarely err if you assume they’re liars.
I notice that not even Tea, in two separate postings, or Mr. McKee actually bother to contest Oliver’s claim that Mr. Gladney’s account is “fishy.” He may have very well been “beaten,” but the evidence presented so far doesn’t actually show that.
Ashley Todd 2.0
Seems about as much substance as the Brad Miller death threat which so far has produced no suspect and no arrest.
You would think threats against a congressman would get investigated.
Smells like a look at the wookie publicity stunt.
“…the Brad Miller death threat…so far has produced no suspect and no arrest.”
There is no such thing as an anonymous death threat, of course. All people who issue death threats by phone make extra sure to leave their name when making them.
Jesus, you wing-nuts can’t even fake an injury these days.
“Seems about as much substance as the Brad Miller death threat which so far has produced no suspect and no arrest.”
Because the Secret Service wants to totally give a daily press conference as to their leads.
You really disgust me Oliver. I can only assume that you have common purpose with the racist thugs who beat Mr Gladney. That is on film. I have seen it. I am thousands of miles from Mr Gladney, across the wide Atlantic Ocean, and I have blogged it. This is getting attention from the world, everyone can see what viscious thugs the American left employ, the black shirts of your fascist movement.
“…thug who beat Mr. Gladney. That is on film.”
The film shows nothing of the sort. At the four-second mark, it appears very vaguely that it is Mr. Gladney who is kicking a union guy who is already down on the ground. Then, another union guy throws Gladney to the ground (and falls down himself in the process). Gladney then almost IMMEDIATELY picks himself up. If Gladney was beaten, it occurred before the video camera was rolling.
You see what is happening here of course. The hard right is laying the seeds for their mobs to kill or seriously injure someone. They are carefully laying down the “they use intimidation and violence tooooooo” lie to justify future actions. What will likely happen is the Beck/Limbaugh hordes will be spurred on to go to these rallys to “protect free speech.” Some wingnut who is a little unbalanced will bring a weapon and injure or kill someone who “suppresses mah ratts” by demanding order.
You watch. These impotent old men are just looking for an excuse to murder Obama supporters. Look at the wingnut blogs like Gateway Pundit. Listen to Beck and Limbaugh. They are creating nonsense like this Gladney non-incident to manufacture rage, rage which will be used to justify real violence.
‘This is getting attention from the world, everyone can see what viscious thugs the American left employ, the black shirts of your fascist movement.’
Ummmm….what? Is the Left issuing mass emails asking their supporters to attend town hall meetings in order to disrupt and intimidate?
Are Left wing shock jocks telling their minions that elected officials should be poisoned or shot? Is the Left calling for the new President to fail?
WTF are you talking about?
OK, so you’re now saying that Mr Gladney’s doctor is illegally medicating him, if he is uninjured he should not be on medication (I think Michael Jackson’s doctor would agree that).
You’re trying to say that the right are trying to stifle debate, when President “bipartisan” Obama does not even want his legislature to have time to read the legislation he supports, let alone have a coherent debate. The left is asking supporters to attend the meetings and disrupt them by not allowing ordinary voters in (the same meeting Mr Gladney attended was packed with SEIU members, who entered by a side door. Organisers tried to stop obvious conservatives entering). Whether that is by email I don’t know, but that is irrelevant.
There is plenty of evidence if you bother to look beyond the sycophantic left-wing media that Democrat politicians and commentators are trying to avoid being challenged, trying to avoid listening (a lot about that on my blog).
As for the new President failing, what more obvious sign that you have swallowed the left-wing propaganda wholesale? Rush Limbaugh said that Obama’s policies were going to ruin the USA, make it far less prosperous and far less free. Mr Limbaugh was probably completely correct in that. Therefore he wanted Obama to fail to carry through those policies, so that the USA would remain prosperous and free. That is a wholly commendable sentiment. Even if you don’t believe his analysis the sentiment is still commendable in that Mr Limbaugh himself does believe the analysis, and so his wish is for his judgement of the best for America.
Only a blind leftist, who does not want to hear anything outside his own beliefs would rad Limbaugh’s comment any other way. Open your eyes to the way the media and a lying, narcissistic President are using you.
Left wing commentators have certainly called for the assassination of elected officials. It is laughable that you insist they have to be radio hosts, as that is the only way your comment is not obviously ridiculous. Strange you should mention it though, as I have not come across any right-wing ones who have.
Oh, and as for Gladney getting up straight away, have none of you ever suffered traumatic injuries? I was in a car that was crushed between two articulated lorries (38-ton trucks). I walked away from the car, once they had cut me out. I could not work then for about four weeks, and did not recover full fitness to do my job for nearly four months. I required physiotherapy up to three years after the accident, and still have occasional minor symptoms 8 years later.
So, any of you like to take those injuries from four large union members, even if you can then walk away?
And more. No it’s not by email that the left ask their supports to disrupt opposition, it’s the President asking in a speech.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCMDur9CDZ4
Oh, and one final point. I mentioned the physiotherapy. I had to pay for that myself, despite being in Britain where we have a government healthcare system and despite the fact that I was earning below average pay. I would have had to wait so long for NHS care that it would have cost me more in lost income than the treatment cost.
That is why I recommend you oppose Obama’s healthcare plan. I live with something very similar, and it is absolutely useless to me, yet I still have to pay for it.
They are all aware of this phenomenon, Richard. They were all aware of something somewhat similar with the Natasha Richardson brain injury. They know, it’s just that she wasn’t a conservative black person, something that they think is lower than low can get.
Oliver,
Something this bizarre, a black conservative, surely must be a set-up. Right? I mean, golly, with the prospect of reparations afoot via health-care and cap & trade (aka H.R. 2454)how can you not back your man Obama (he’s half white)? This must be a set-up! No way a black person would ever reject takin’ from whitey and letting Van Jones funnel the cash to his Marxist cronies.
You see, my simple-minded friend, many from all walks of life are bright enough to reject Marxism. If the current regime prevails you will figure it out too late that Obama, Congress, and all of the “Czars” never really cared too much for you either. This wasn’t a setup. Just an ideological conflict. Your nation is at a dangerous precipice…take a step back and really look at what’s going on. Under the guise of class disparity, racial bias, and every emotional string the current administration can pluck, they are making a universal push for a Marxist nation. Your peril too my friend. Use you own judgement.
Indeed Dennis. Left-wing British politicians have been caught out in the same racist assumptions.
Well put, Brian. How Democrat staffers must be laughing at the useful idiots who loyally repeat the propaganda, never realising that it is they who will suffer most, those who are promised most.
Another addition to my answer to jrfunkenstein, who asked “Is the Left issuing mass emails asking their supporters to attend town hall meetings in order to disrupt and intimidate?”
Errrrrmmmmmmm, yes it is actually, unless you think that Organising for America is not on the left.
Oh, Gladney’s a prince. Here’s the report he and his attorney fed to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch: “The SEIU member used a racial slur against Kenneth, then punched him in the face. Kenneth fell to the ground. Another SEIU member yelled racial epithets at Kenneth as he kicked him in the head and back. Kenneth was also brutally attacked by one other male SEIU member and an unidentified woman.”
I guess he didn’t know there was a video camera running.
But *GOOD NEWS FOR OUR FASCIST FRIENDS* he’s already been on Fox with his attorney. So when’s the book deal? He could co-author it with Ashley Todd.
Oh, but of course his buddy who shouts “you assaulted him” was clearly playing to the camera. So I guess he and his crew DID know, they just thought the SEIU guys would retaliate more for knocking their guy down. Better luck next time, fascism hustlers!
daniel rotter,
Please I am sure Capitol hill has a PBX capable of tracing a call.
Lots of mindless gab, but still no proof.
That youtube video doesn’t show Obama asking supporters to “disrupt opposition,” Richard. Nice try.
Okay, so the lefties here don’t care that a man was beaten by SEIU thugs while exercising his First Amendment rights. They falsely accuse protesters of being racists and facists, even though the union thugs were clearly the ones in the wrong, and it was a black man who was a) called a racial slur, then b) beaten, and had to go to the hospital.
But you don’t care.
I guess that also means that you “progressives” here are not even a teenie, weenie bit concerned about political operatives in the White House operating a “snitch central” in violation of federal law (the federal Privacy Act of 1974), as well as our Constitution.
And, you all blindly defend the violent actions of the SEIU, which is the same exact union that was caught up and actually named in the criminal complaint in the scandal over the filling of the Senate seat in Illinois — Barack Obama’s former Senate seat.
You remember former Governor “Blago,” right?
Well, I guess that Barack Obama and his minions in the House — like Carnahan — could not pick a “better” group to front their “interests” in these Town Hall meetings, no?
Too bad the price appears to be the physical well being and Constitutional rights of the rest of us.
And the left turns a blind eye! Shame on you all!
“..even though the union thugs are clearly in the wrong…”
How/where is this “clear?” Going by the video alone, it certainly isn’t.
This is getting attention from the world, everyone can see what viscious thugs the American left employ, the black shirts of your fascist movement.
I have a feeling that ten years from now, you will be deeply ashamed you ever wrote something so dumb and inflammatory. Or maybe you won’t. That’d be even worse.
Two of the SEIU thugs were arrested for the assault and battery on Kenneth Gladney, following the investigation at the scene.
It is on a few videos! Not just the one.
You really need to keep up, Mr. Rotter!
Who beat up the union guy at the beginning of the video, the one Gladney is kicking?
“It is on a few videos!”
Link(s)?
Troch, it’s not that we don’t care, it’s that we don’t believe them. Why? Because you ultra-cons lie about EVERYTHING. From Iraq to sex ed to gay rights to abortion to taxes to health care. I’m just playing the odds.
Trochilus, care to answer Jaim’s question? It’s a good one.
Zython, you lie about who you are. You were a piece of shit sock-puppet on another blog.
That’s lower than low, you douchebag. No wonder you don’t believe anyone else. Untrustworthy people never trust anyone else.
I finally got around to watching the video and reading a couple right-wing blogs on this Gladney incident, but I can’t get the links to play the shocking video of a brutal beating that’s been promised – just the tail end of a shoving match with some other guy lying on the ground, and then Gladney walking around apparently uninjured – but there he is the next day in a wheelchair, so injured he is unable to speak or even show us his cuts and bruises, and the the hosts and commenters on these sites all seem pretty sure they’ve seen evidence of Mr. Gladney’s vicious beating at the hands of union thugs – so I have to assume that Obama’s internet hackers quickly replaced the damning video evidence with this more muddled clip.
Zython, you lie about who you are. You were a piece of shit sock-puppet on another blog.
You have any proof that was me?
Deny that it is, Zython.
Every post there is in exactly the same bizarre style as you display here.
At least the ones with your same name; I haven’t looked at your sock-puppet ones yet. How many did you use?
Do you do that here, too?
Every post there is in exactly the same bizarre style as you display here.
You mean using your own words against you guys? Yes, how bizzare.
At least the ones with your same name; I haven’t looked at your sock-puppet ones yet. How many did you use?
You tell me.
Do you do that here, too?
Ask Oliver, he can verify that for you.
All you’ve got is loose circumstantial evidence. You have no proof that that Zython and I are the same person.
Dennis doesn’t do “proof.” Or “facts.” Or “evidence.” He’s the perfect example of wingnuttia — a self-contained bubble of making shit up from whole-cloth.
So yeah Dennis, care to tell me why Gladney was kicking that union guy at the beginning of the video?
No, of course you won’t you little bitch.
You won’t deny that it wasn’t you. You sound like a very guilty person, Zython. Just coincidence that someone uses a freaky name and talks just like you, that you admit sounds just like you, even.
Oh what a terrible web we weave, when we practice to deceive.
Tell me why you used Michelle Malkin’s birth name, Jaim? I mean, what gives, man. I thought you were above all that since you haven’t stopped with the Leibowtiz crap for six months now.
You won’t deny that it wasn’t you.
Of course I’m not denying it wasn’t me. That would mean it WAS me, which is wasn’t. Get it?
Just coincidence that someone uses a freaky name
FIrst off, it’s called a “screen name”. It’s used to protect my identity from psychopaths like you. Secondly, you’d be surprised how common that name is. Believe me, I was too.
and talks just like you,
You guys thought “Dreams of my Father” was ghostwritten by Bill Ayers.
that you admit sounds just like you, even.
I never admitted that. Now who’s putting words in people’s mouths?
She’s an Asian-American who wrote a book defending the illegal internment of Asian-Americans during WWII. She changed her name to “Malkin” in part to make herself more credible on the issue. That’s pretty fucked up if you think about it.
But yeah, didn’t think you’d answer a very simple question.
Me: that you admit sounds just like you, even.
Me:Every post there is in exactly the same bizarre style as you display here.
Sounds like an awful lot like an admission, dude. And no, there aren’t a lot of people with that screen name.
You know what? Screw it, I’m not going to dignify your diversions and stalking with this stupid banter. And even if it was me, that would make it the worst thing I’ve ever done in my life, which still makes me a FAR better person than you. To you, I bid good day.
That would be guilty.
She changed her name in 1993 when she married Jesse Malkin, Jaim. A lot of women do that when they get married. She wrote her book on the Japanese internment in 2004.
No correlation between her book and her name change. You’re making that up.
Weak. Especially given your harping on the Jon Stewart bullshit for forever.
Hopefully your boss doesn’t see that or the defense of it you made up.
Whatever helps you sleep at night, Dennis.
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/7C2B91CFCB7B4D398625760D0008E6EA?OpenDocument
So Dennis, Jay Tea, etc. etc. how much have you each given to Gladney’s health care fund?
She changed her name in 1993 when she married Jesse Malkin, Jaim. A lot of women do that when they get married. She wrote her book on the Japanese internment in 2004.
No correlation between her book and her name change. You’re making that up.
Well, except that Malkin’s legal name is still Maglalang which is why that’s the name on the copyright notices of her book. She admittedly took her husband’s name “professionally” but never legally changed it.
Of course, she’s actually right about making fun of it being juvenile and pointless, but I just really love how you just assume you know what you’re talking about and crash and burn miserably.
It’s cute when a known bigot like Dennis tries to lecture people on political correctness.
Pollack, Jaim said this “She changed her name to “Malkin” in part to make herself more credible on the issue. That’s pretty fucked up if you think about it.”
She didn’t change her name to make herself more credible on the issue. There’s no crash and burn, except what Jaim wrote, which you don’t bother to address. Sometimes I get the impression you only care about accuracy when you think a conservative hasn’t been accurate. But there’s nothing I wrote that is inaccurate.
And Jaim was being juvenile by making fun of her name. And a plain as day fucking hypocrite, a charge he makes about conservatives every single day.
And Zython is a sock-puppeting piece of shit.
And you are aligned with and mentored by the most vile, disgusting human being in America.
I don’t care if you’re PC or not, but there’s no difference between your use of Magalalang for Michelle Malkin and my use of Leibowitz for Jon Stewart. Yet it hasn’t stopped you from going on about Leibowitz.
Asked to square the discrepancy in your logic, and you resort to making shit up right off the bat.
Still waiting for the link(s) to the “few videos” that you mentioned, Trochilus.
It’s 11 pm in Virginia Dennis. Really, try to calm down and just get some sleep. Your family can’t be happy with your rage-filled flailing at the keyboard.
And we’re all poopyheads!
No, Pollack, you just called me out for not knowing what I’m talking about and offer nothing to refute what I said. Nor did you correct the hypocrite here who can’t even look at the timing of his posting to know what time it is here when it’s stamped right there in plain view, who you had to know from your response was clearly wrong about not changing her name to appear more credible about her book.
Pollack [sic], Jaim said this “She changed her name to “Malkin” in part to make herself more credible on the issue.
And you said she changed her name in 1993 to attack him on that. She didn’t. You were completely wrong. Big boys apologize for that, but you’re not a big boy now are you, Denny? Jaim’s right, especially with how much you’re just throwing tantrums and ad hominem attacks it is well past your bedtime.
No, Pollack, you just called me out for not knowing what I’m talking about and offer nothing to refute what I said.
And, Dennis, how about that Grandma Perma Sleep Program? Any further clarifications on that one?
No, Pollack, I wasn’t completely wrong on that. You’re arguing about something immaterial and irrelevant to the conversation. She was married in 1993 and took the name of her husband then. She said she didn’t bother to change it legally.
Whether she took it professionally only and didn’t change it legally has nothing to do with Jaim’s explanation. I’ll take your advice and call it a night, but if you want to argue about this piece if irrelevant minutiae tomoorow, I’ll be glad to take it up with you. If I’m wrong, I’ll say so, but I did read where she took the name of her husband on her marriage to him. In 1993.
Yeesh. I wanna go to bed, fafaroo. You guys HATE me. Why do you ask me so many f’ing questions. I answer, then you come back with more. It’s like ten Strowbridges.
How about tomorrow? Remind me then.
I think we’ve set a new record for stubborn insanity from Dennis tonight- arguing that he doesn’t believe a fact about Michelle Malkin that she said about herself on her own web page. There’s almost something… psychotic about Dennis’ level of denial.
I answer, then you come back with more.
Dennis, I gave you several citations from the actual health care bill refuting your characterization of the advanced care planning consultations.
You came back with a wonderfully predictable response: A link to an NRO article repeating the same accusation without a shred of actual evidence, not a single word quoted from the actual bill.
Dennis, your standard lines boil down to:
Dems did it first.
Dems do it too.
Dems do it worse.
That’s it.
You get in trouble when you pretend to know something about actual policy.
Has he mentioned that he hates John Kerry in this thread yet? That’s like, his A material or something.
How about tomorrow? Remind me then.
Geez, Dennis, didn’t you say that yesterday? Oh yeah, you did:
http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/08/07/swastikas-sighted-at-anti-healthcare-gop-mob/#comment-169373
Keep dancing, Dennis. Keep dancing.
I’ve read several places where Michelle Malkin changed her name after she was married. The other place I read it is on her web page that you linked to:
“Unlike Teresa Heinz/Teresa Heinz Kerry, I permanently changed my professional name immediately after my wedding 11 sweet years ago. I did so not “for politics”–in the P.C. world of media, the expedient thing to do would have been to continue writing under my Filipino maiden name–but to show my love for my husband”
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Idiot.
To quote you, Pollack “You were completely wrong. Big boys apologize for that, but you’re not a big boy now are you,
DennyPollack?Then next time don’t wait till 12:30 in the morning on a late Sunday night to ask me, fafaroo.
And I answer plenty of your questions.
“Pollak” has no “c”.
The repeated use of “Pollack” in addressing this guy irritates me.
It’s been pointed out numerous times. It’s not just that there are two “l”s, you weasel, but that it is reminiscent of the “stupid Polack” jokes of the 70s.
You do it on purpose.
You are a child. A bigoted, mean-spirited, crybaby loser child.
I do it because it bugs you, Bruce.
What else iritates you, just so I know?
And I answer plenty of your questions.
And yet, not this one, Dennis. Why is that? Could it be because you haven’t got a leg to stand on? Could it be because you know you’ve been mindlessly spewing false information?
There’s a word for that, you know, Dennis.
Immediate next sentence: As for my legal name, I just never bothered to submit the bureaucratic paperwork required to change it.
Get help, Dennis, you’re a sick little boy.
Then next time don’t wait till 12:30 in the morning on a late Sunday night to ask me, fafaroo.
Dennis, didn’t you just go off on someone about being able to read time stamps?
Oh yeah, you did:
So how’s you’re own time stamp reading ability, Dennis? Not so hot I think.
fafaroo
August 10, 2009 at 12:32 am
12:32 am was the time of the post you asked me the question, fafaroo. Are you honestly taking the time in your life to chide me for saying 12:30, when the time stamp was 12:32?
You continue to regress, my friend.
Dennis, you’re so predictable. You can’t answer question about your statements on advanced care counseling, but you take the bait on the timestamp thing. Yup, it’s always the fact free route with you.
Try again, Dennis:
http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/08/07/swastikas-sighted-at-anti-healthcare-gop-mob/#comment-169382
Or did you not go back to that thread, Dennis, after you wrote:
So you didn’t go back to the thread in which you said you’d be happy to pick up the discussion later. Why is that, Dennis?
Of course, you were all over this thread but no reply to my question …
http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/08/09/video-republican-tea-party-astroturfers-exposed/#comment-169854
What exactly is your point? Jaim said Malkin changed her name when she wrote her book about the Japanese internment camps to appear more credible. I said that was wrong, that he made that up, that she changed her name when she got married. In the link you provided, she said she changed her name professionally to Malkin when she got married. Nothing at all to do with her internmemt book. Are you seriously debating the point that I didn’t say ‘changed her name professsionally‘? If so, then you seriously need to get a life. It wasn’t even an argument between you and me. You interjected yourself, and then you fucked up, you just can’t admit it. You’re the one who needs help, but I established that the first time I ever saw you post here. The person you get help from is a despicable freak, and both sides of the political spectrum agree on that.
So now that it’s bright and early and you’ve been reminded of the questions, can we get some answers now?
Or are you going to continue down the fact free route?
That’s a TBD, fafaroo.
And why did you not respond to me asking why you chide me over 12:30 vs 12:32 time stamp?
Were you being that picayune, or did you do that in error and, like Pollack, are just too obstinate to admit it?
One of the two, but please let me know.
You interjected yourself, and then you fucked up, you just can’t admit it.
We’ve definitely reached the desperate projection phase of your tantrum here. You’ve already given up and admitted you’re just a troll in this thread, so waiting for you to crawl out of this denial pit you’ve dug is probably a wasted effort. Hopefully before you’re next derail attempt you’ll stop running away from fafaroo so I can remain at least a little entertained here. I’m really getting tired of your reruns.
That’s a TBD, fafaroo. And why did you not respond to me asking why you chide me over 12:30 vs 12:32 time stamp?
And there we have it. It’s always the fact free route.
Dennis, the bill is written and published. The language can be cited and discussed. You haven’t provided a single word from the bill to support your claims that it requires counseling about euthanasia, ending care for cost reasons or that a medical board will be making decisions about end of life care instead of a patient and his or her doctor.
Hell, you haven’t even provided a quote of the language proving, as you stated, that it’s so vague and ambiguous it could mean anything.
All you’ve done so far is link to an NRO article that has as one of its central points, a blatant and demonstrable lie about the bill.
So between debating the bill with actual facts and droning on and on about irrelevant nonsense, you choose droning on and on about irrelevant nonsense.
Every time.
Careful, fafaroo, you might about to be told you’re getting a devastating uppercut. Oh noes!
You’re not getting tired of anything, Pollack. You couldn’t possibly be, otherwise you wouldn’t keep coming back.
Seriously, though, no BS. What did I say that was wrong in my post to Jaim and what is your point of argument regarding Malkin and her name change as it pertains to Jaim’s excuse that she changed it at the time of her book to appear more credible?
Don’t get me wrong, the ease and enjoyment of making you look like a fool on your new bullshit is always entertaining. You’re just really slumping; this weekend has been nothing but a rehash of your small handful of desperation moves.
I’m not really interested in the trademark troll maneuver of pretending you don’t know what you’re doing to waste my time. You tried to attack Jaim by disputing the accusation that Malkin uses a false name for professional reasons; you got slapped righteously and have been throwing a tantrum about it for several hours now. I’m sorry you didn’t have a long enough nap. Give it up already. I can’t believe you think anyone here would read your last day’s worth of whiny, petulant cries for attention and then fall for any type of “now seriously, let’s talk” nonsense. Away, troll.
Doesn’t sound much like you’re getting tired of anything, Pollack. Sounds very much like you’re pretty interested, come to think of it.
I just want you state your case in a clear manner, because as it is, it makes no sense at all. She didn’t change her name to appear more credible. That was horseshit. Neither you nor Jaim can provide anything attesting to that claim. I can’t even find where some wingnut TedRall type nutcase blogger even made that allegation, because it’s ridiculous. Jaim made that up, and you have no problem with that, but you want to make some bullshit point about ‘professional vs.legal’ when it was completely irrelevant.
You’re better off sticking to cartoons than arguing, Pollack. Not that you do either one well.
Dennis, you’re a clown.
Reruns AGAIN?
He says he’s done, but he’s back again.
He’s Jason from Friday the 13th.
FYI, fafaroo, 12 hours and no response to Gladney needing health insurance. Hmmm…..
You’re the clown, fafaroo. Or insane, since only an insane person would pursue someone they thought was a clown as you have for the minute points you demand that I address.
That is the very definition of insanity. Why not try to effect change? Instead you pursue something that in the end you know you will be frustrated by, demanding I give you answers for your pointless cross-examinations, that I gladly continue to frustrate you on. That’s either Stockholme Syndrome or masochism on your part. Whichever of the two it is, you certainly seem to be enjoying it. Just like Pollack, here.
I’m a troll and a clown, but you guys look to me for answers.
Strange that.
I’m a troll and a clown, but you guys look to me for answers.
Dennis, you’re a troll and a clown because you make untrue statements and then run away when you’re called on it.
What is your basis for claiming I am an “ultra-con” . . . whatever that is? Maybe you could start by telling me what an “ultra-con” is. I am not familiar with that term.
And what is your basis — your proof, Zython, for concluding that I — or all “ultra-cons,” as you put it — lie about everything? Please, be specific about what lies I have told about Iraq, or sex-ed, or gay rights, or abortion, or taxes or healthcare? Just the lies, mind you.
I am sure you know that you cannot possibly do that. So, why do you spew such nonesense? Or, are you just continuing “playing the odds,” as you put it?
Why not deal with facts instead of odds?
For example, why not tell us if you support the sort of outburst shown here, where even a Congressman, Representative David Scott, D-Ga, began berating one of his own constituents — a physician, mind you, who tried to ask him a healthcare-related question at a public forum?
And I still wonder why you seem not to care about Kenneth Gladney. Is it because he says he is conservative? That’s what it seems like. It seems as if a lot of the people posting here do not care about Kenneth Gladney because he is conservative. Is that not what is called bias? Prejudice? Hatred of someone because of what he is instead of who he is? Where did you learn to hold such views?
Tell me where I’m wrong. How is that an appropriate reaction to thugs physically beating him up? One of them — right afterward — boasted when confronted that Kenneth was punched in the face and knocked down because, as that person said of Gladney, “He attacked America.” You can hear the guy say it on the video! When did Kenneth Gladney attack America? Passing out “Don’t Tread On Me!” flags?
Here are witnesses reporting the incident to the police.
You all can keep falsely claiming the videos show otherwise, but you know better.
And the fact is that if you did care at all about Kenneth Gladney, you would have the courage to stand up and say so, like those people did.
I’m a troll and a clown, but you guys look to me for answers.
So no answer then. Got it.
Does Michael J. Fox need health insurance, or is he just a big faker/liar?
And the fact is that if you did care at all about Kenneth Gladney, you would have the courage to stand up and say so, like those people did.
So much are you contributing to his health care fund?
You see though,fafaroo, I didn’t really make a statement. What I said, I said last Friday. It’s a pet issue with you, and you pounced when you saw what I wrote and like a pit bull with lipstick, you haven’t let go of it. Since Friday you’ve pursued it, and you call me a clown. Insanity or masochist, one of the two. I’d actually addresss it more if I didn’t enjoy watching your regression.
I’d actually addresss it more if I wasn’t totally full of shit.
Fixed.
I’d be glad to help him out. Thanks for the suggestion.
More importantly, however, how much is the SEIU contributing — voluntarily, that is?
After all, their members intentionally caused Kenneth’s injuries. I’d say they have the primary responsibility.
Wouldn’t you?
Then again, maybe the President should personally contribute as well. He bears at least secondary responsibility for having incited this violence in the first place.
Don’t forget, it was he who instructed his deputy Chief of Staff, Jim Messina, to trot out and actively encourage the supporters of his healthcare plan, specifically saying that they should “punch back twice as hard.”
So the SEIU did. Sadly for Kenneth Gladney, he caught the sucker punch from the thug!
Remember, the SEIU is very, very, very close to Obama. Here is just one of many specific quotes from that New York Times article . . . with my “emphasis” added.
You catch my drift? I think we all have a pretty good idea what a “political director” does . . . and might be doing in this public debate, turned “fight club” in St. Louis!!
As a former “community organizer” Obama should have had an appreciation for how followers (e.g., ACORN, SEIU) can sometimes — no, more like frequently go overboard, especially when you tell them such utterly irresponsible things . . . i.e., saying they should, “punch back twice as hard,” no?
Please explain why, if you disagree.
And, how much, if any, will you personally be contributing, Fafaroo?
It is childish.
But, at least when it comes to “limited” people like Fafaroo they get their jollies by trying to put words in your mouth, unlike some of the “fun folks” at SEIU who get their jollies actually putting their fist in your mouth.
Trochilus, Jim Hoft is all over this. Libs are letting their inner racists all come out in the open on this.
Figures… Leftists Hurl Racist Insults at Black Man After Horrible Beating
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/08/figures-leftists-hurl-racist-insults-at.html#203650
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Firedoglake, Dem Underground, Daily Kos…the usual suspects. Despicable.
Oh, and it turns out Gladney does have insurance through his wife, for whoever it was that keeps asking that question. (fafaroo and Pollack)
Oh, and it turns out Gladney does have insurance through his wife, for whoever it was that keeps asking that question.
Great! Thanks for helping verify that both Gladney and his lawyer are conniving liars.
Oh, I’m sorry, unless you’re saying that three different newspapers reporting on this moment all just made what the lawyer said up.
“Brown told the crowd that Gladney is accepting donations toward his medical expenses. Gladney told reporters he was laid off recently and has no health insurance.” – Associated Press
Supporters cheered. Brown finished by telling the crowd that Gladney is accepting donations toward his medical expenses. Gladney told reporters he was recently laid off and has no health insurance. – St. Louis Post-Dispatch
“At the event, Bill Hennessy, the organizer of the St. Louis tea parties, asked the crowd to donate money to Gladney to help him pay for his injuries, despite the fact that he now says he has insurance. When I asked Brown about this, he said: “Well, who doesn’t need a donation? If people want to give him a donation because he’s injured and unemployed, that’s up to them.” Brown said Gladney has raised about $1,100 in donations so far.” – Washington Independent
Interesting. So Gladney’s raised $1,100- a direct statement from his lawyer- after 24 hours of pretending to say he needed it for medical bills. You know what, you guys can have this one. He’s a great poster child, yessiree.
You guys really need to meet in advance to get your stories straight.
You were saying you were done with me, I think, Pollack.
Funny how every time you guys say that you start stepping up the counterattacks.
And funny how fafaroo wants to know why I just assumed from various reports that Gladney was a conservative, but ignores the fact that Oliver called him that twice, and that the premise of this blog post is that since he is a ‘black conservative’, as such they have a history of doing anything for a buck and everything about them should be taken with a silo grain of salt. Racial profiling at it’s most ugliest.
Yeah, someone needs to get the story straight, but both Kenneth and his lawyer said he had insurance.
Gladney’s Lawyer: He’s Unemployed, Insured and Making Money From the Alleged Attack
and this…”Brown also told me that Gladney is not a conservative activist. He was just selling the 18th-century patriotic resistance flags to try to make some extra money.”
Kind of makes the assumption that he’s a black conservative and therefore a minstrel toadie that everyone should be suspicious of as undeniable racial profiling, doesn’t it, Pollack.
Or are you done with me?
I would like to propose the formation of a new leftist “fring” group in the grand (new) tradition of the Teabaggers, Birthers, and Deathers.
What we will do is flood the blogosphere with contrived outrage and ridiculous demnds to see Kenneth Gladney’s X-Rays after his “savage beating” in St. Louis.
My proposed name for our fringe group? “The Boners.”
A “fring” group? Could happen too.
Dennis, if you want me to stop responding to you, you merely have to stop writing hilarious lies that take me five minutes or less on Google to humiliate you over. It’s inspiring classic troll though, whining that someone keeps talking to you- you should try it a fourth time in this thread alone; it’ll work eventually.
Yes, thanks for linking again to the very article I already linked to- the one that was released almost a full day after the multiple reports all quoting the same lawyer as saying Gladney needed donations for “medical expenses” because “he didn’t have insurance.” Here, pro tip for you- hit the “pageup” button just once. See, those two quotes proving he said that? They’re right there. I know you read them. The last link? That one that you linked to to refute… ummm… my linking to it a few minutes earlier? Yeah, that’s the one with the quote from the lawyer admitting that Gladney’s call for “medical” donations are BS. Why you’re linking to a story to avoid the content of it, I will never understand. But it sure is funny.
(Whoops, just realized the St. Louis Post-Dispatch quote link should be this one.)
Pollack, I don’t are if you respond or don’t respond, but you’re the one who said he was done with me and then keeps coming back like a little terrier puppy who thinks it’s time for dinner.
I don’t read your links because they don’t even look like links; they’re whole sentences that look like they don’t go to anything. But if you’re saying your links and my links both say that Gladney stated he has insurance, I don’t see what your fucking point is other than you keep asking about his not having insurance when he and his lawyer say he’s covered by his wife.
I don’t read your links because they don’t even look like links; they’re whole sentences that look like they don’t go to anything. But if you’re saying your links and my links both say that Gladney stated he has insurance, I don’t see what your fucking point is other than you keep asking about his not having insurance when he and his lawyer say he’s covered by his wife.
Wow. I do not even know what to say about this level of stupid.
Oliver,
I posted a reply to Dennis’s comment of 2:52, above with relevant responses and links. Is there some reason your site is blocking my reply?
I’ll split it:
Dennis,
This is becoming the case of the “Sibling Thugs.”
Notice how the most ridiculous (among the rabid posters here and elsewhere) are trying so desperately to change the subject to whether or not Kenneth has health insurance that will cover him?
Naturally, they want no part of honest discussion the central issue — that the FOB / SEIU thugs intentionally and personally attacked Kenneth Gladney, including punching him and knocked him down, and they also smashed a camera into another woman’s face, who was filming the aftermath of the incident.
Rather than doing the obvious — deploring the violent attacks — the Left is now trying to suggest that this is a “Tawana Brawley” story because Kenneth took some donations to cover his medical expenses.
But we know it can’t be true . . . no Rev. Al in sight! Oh yeah . . . that and the fact that both of the attacks are on film!!!
Note that one lady who was filming the kerfuffel had her camera smashed right into her face by another SEIU thug — this one a woman!
By the way, Dennis did you happen to catch the comment at Gateway, right after Jim Hoft’s comment you linked me to?
Yep. That’s about it.
Notice how the most ridiculous (among the rabid posters here and elsewhere) are trying so desperately to change the subject to whether or not Kenneth has health insurance that will cover him?
the Left is now trying to suggest that this is a “Tawana Brawley” story because Kenneth took some donations to cover his medical expenses.
Are you serious? I’m trying to find out why Gladney and his lawyer lied and collected over a grand in donations before admitting it, and why you refuse to respond to that. If he “took some donations to cover his medical expenses” – what you just fucking said- then where did the money go because as you also just fucking said- he didn’t need them. Jesus tap-dancing Christ. How do you actually enjoy looking like this much of a fool?
Dennis actually said, right now, that he refuses to read my links and is just going to assume they say the opposite of what they say. You people are lunatics. I understand trolling, but I’ve never seen trolls who pretend to be stupid and make themselves look like fools for no reason but to annoy people. It’s sociopathic.
Dennis . . . I’ve tried a few times, but the site will apparently not permit the link I was trying to post to a Michelle Malkin story, dated the 7th, about HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius actually telling the SEIU “brothers and sisters” to “keep doing what you’re doing.”
They’re actually ENCOURAGING this!
Thanks, Trochilus, I’ll try to find it. Sometimes links just disappear when you’re trying to post them on here and some of the text goes along with it. I’m sure it happens to everyone.
Yes, they are encouraging it, that’s why it’s so funny to see numb skulls like Pollack trying to make sense out of irrelevant discrepancies between what different newspapers report. The St. Louis P-D was a p.o.s. rag when I lived there 20 years ago and I’m sure it’s ten times worse now.
Here’s further proof that they are encouraging it:
SEIU Recruits Obamacare Supporters to ‘Drown Out Voices’ in Conn. (Pelosi Will Be Appalled at the ‘Un-Americanness’)
Good one Dennis. Still being blocked some of the time.
I tried to make the point to August J. Pollak that I don’t know whether the guy — Kenneth Gladney — has medical insurance coverage that would fully covers all his losses or not.
But I said I’d even be will send the guy a few bucks, even if I knew he had the “Cadillac” coverage that Russ Carnahan and every other Member of Congress has, on our dime.
That’s because all the vicious, nasty little bastards on the left are now going to try and drag this guy through Holy Hell, just like they did to Joe the Plumber, for simply asking a question.
All this guy Kenneth did was try to sell a few flags — and for his trouble, he got punched in the face and knocked down by some criminal thug for his efforts.
Mark my words, the left is going to make sure that every inch of his being will be run through the grinder.
So, yeah . . . I’m going to find out where this guy is, and I AM going to send him a few bucks. And if August J. Pollak were a decent guy, he would too.
I wonder whether state and perhaps even federal employees will participate in trying to destroy the guy in a criminal manner, you know, like they did with Joe?
It wouldn’t surprise any of us.
I am trying to imagine what it must feel like to suddenly realize that a “Hopey-Changy” President that I had supported, and his minions throughout the country, including this hapless Congressman, had exposed themselves by employing Chicago-style hardball tactics to try and ram through legislation that will radically alter the fundamental structure of about 16 or 17 percent of the gross national product of the United States — and that they don’t want any damned public debate about it, or they’ll send in union thugs!
Pelosi and Hoyer are calling us un-American for showing up to challenge this plan.
And now, Obama is pretending that he needs to step in to define what the limits to debate should be in the town hall “public debate?”
This, after encouraging Americans to “snitch” on one another for sending “fishy” e-mails!!
A new wingnut?
Goody.
Shhhh, Quaker… they’re doing that thing now where they talk to each other to hope that no one else bothers them, like for example point out how they’re not answering any of the questions… shhhh….
Hey, you wanna do it too, Quaker? See, say something to me, and make sure you’re being really specific on how you are talking just to me, because you certainly don’t want anyone else to know what you’re talking about… it’s just like second grade when Suzie had to tell Timmy that Becky wasn’t talking to him! Aren’t the newest intellectuals on this site so interesting?
they’re doing that thing now where they talk to each other to hope that no one else bothers them
I noticed that, AP. That’s new, isn’t it? If only they had some place to have their little private conversations….but where?
“Punch back twice as hard.”
This is the Obama quote that “incited” the incident with Mr. Gladney? So you’re admitting then that Kenneth Gladney punched first? Sure would be a logical claim, given that the start of the video shows an SEIU guy on the ground with Mr. Gladney standing over him BEFORE Gladney is even touched by another SEIU guy.
So Gladney is asking for donations since he’s uninsured, but would have access to affordable insurance under Obama’s plan.
And it’s clear from the video that he was giving as good as he was getting, and that what he “got” was something he bounced up from a few seconds later.
Sure, maybe there was some sort of freak injury that only manifested itself later, but I still haven’t heard a plausible defense for Gladney’s criminal actions in kicking the union guy while he was down.
Delusional, violent, and a liar. A perfect spokeperson for the GOP. No wonder he’s so popular with the wing-nut trolls here.
“Pelosi and Hoyer are calling us un-American for showing up to challenge this plan.”
No, they aren’t. Here’s the only time in the op-ed by Pelosi and Hoyer where the word “un-American” appears: “Drowning out views is simply un-American.”
So either a. you didn’t read the op-ed; b. you lied about what Pelosi and Hoyer wrote; or c. the only way you and others (the “us” you mentioned) engage in “showing up to challenge this plan” is by “drowning out views.” None of these three answers put you in a particularly flattering light, do they, Trochilus.
Jaim, from the video, it’s clear that Mr. Gladney was standing over the fallen union guy, but it’s NOT clear that he was (literally) kicking the guy when he was down.
And what is your basis — your proof, Zython, for concluding that I — or all “ultra-cons,” as you put it — lie about everything?
2000-2008 for starters.
Please, be specific about what lies I have told about Iraq, or sex-ed, or gay rights, or abortion, or taxes or healthcare? Just the lies, mind you.
If I did that, not only would I be moderated for posting too many links, it would probably exceed Oliver’s bandwidth.
And I still wonder why you seem not to care about Kenneth Gladney. Is it because he says he is conservative?
Yes, but indirectly. I don’t care because I don’t believe him. I don’t believe him because he lies about everything. He lies about everything because he’s a conservative. See, simple.
Wow. I do not even know what to say about this level of stupid.
It’s like watching someone repeatedly fail to put a round peg in a round hole.
To those two clowns, any challenge whatsoever to what they say is trying to drown them out.
And, for the President to actively encourage Americans to “snitch” on one another by reporting “fishy” e-mails about healthcare to political operatives in the White House, now that IS un-American. And, it is also a possible violation of the federal Privacy Act.
But Hoyer and Pelosi forgot to add that packing the room with union supporters and locking real constituents outside is just fine.
Oh. They also forgot to say that punching someone in the face and knocking them down — if you’re a union thug — well that’s just fine, too.
Maybe that sentence was cut in the editing process! But HHS Secretary, Kathleen Sebelius made sure to signal that last one the very next day when she held a confab with the SEIU, and told all the “brothers and sisters” to “keep doing what you’re doing.” You can read all about it, right here!
LOL Michelle Malkin.
How ’bout some links to FreeRepublic while you’re at it?
(I’m kidding.)
“To those two clowns, any challenge whatsoever to what they say is trying to drown them out.”
I re-read the Pelosi/Hoyer op-ed and can’t find anywhere where those two individuals define “drowning out opposing views” in this way…but if you’ve embarked on a new career in mind reading (Pelosi and Hoyer being the first two minds you’ve decided to read), good luck to you!
Sorry to come so late to the party, but I noticed a point in a comment above by Dennis:
[blockquote]Note that one lady who was filming the kerfuffel had her camera smashed right into her face by another SEIU thug — this one a woman![/blockquote]
I couldn’t see the woman in the video hit the camera at all. She was in the frame, the camera got jostled, and the woman holding the camera started asking if “you” hit her, whoever “you is.”
But on the wider video that’s been disseminated showing Gladney getting up in an aggressive stance and then being pulled back by a baseball cap-wearing union member, you can almost see the incident involving this other woman with a camera and you can hear a man saying, “He hit her, he hit her.” So whoever “you” was, it apparently wasn’t the woman in the video.
Interestingly, the woman who claimed she had been hit was arrested immediately following her outcry, which had been observed by one of the cops. I wonder why?