Swastikas Sighted At Anti-Healthcare GOP Mob
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I mean, we all know Pelosi was just making those stories up, right? Riiight.
Republicans and conservative talk radio and cable news are getting a bunch of armed crazies with racial issues fired up about Nazis taking over their government and destroying their country. People are going to be hurt by the right.
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This surprises anyone?
This is who they are. This is the heart of the modern GOP.
‘People are going to be hurt by the right.’
You mean MORE hurt OW.
At least they’re not anti semites, like the types you see at liberal anti Israel/Zionist rallies.
Uh-huh.
Gabriel, do you have like a list of moronic, failed talking points? It’s like you type out stuff verbatim from a menu of crazy.
Hey Gabe, you may want to curb your ambitions and sit this one out bud. That’s unless you can display proof to back up your claims. If not, you’re gonna be passed off as just another neocon pissing false equivalences in the wind.
I’m just sayin
http://zombietime.com/gaza_war_protest/
Burn.
BOO HOO HOO!!!! GRRRR!!! WE IZ NOT ALLLOWD TO LUZ ELECKSHUNS!!! STOP DA BLAK COMNISTS!!!! CHANGE OUR UNDERWEAR!!!!
Retards – the sign is calling the Dems Nazi, not saying they themselves are pro-Nazi. You know, like how the left called George Bush and the Republicans Hitler and Nazis constantly. I dont agree with the absurd comparison then or now but only a retard (eg, OW) or a total dishonest hack (eg, Nancy Pelosi, OW) could interpret it to mean that the protestor is pro-Nazi. THe sign actually says “No Repeats”.
Let’s try another example: if I went to protest SoDumb and went in front of whatever shithole he lives in with a sign depicting The Blob and the words “No Repeats”, would that mean I was pro-dumbfatfuck or anti-dumbfatfuck?
SAM NY: FWIW, the main text of the post makes that point, to wit:
Because carrying around swastikas is a totally a classy, responsible thing to do as long as you’re screaming “OBAMA IS A BLACK NAZI BUT WE OURSELVES ARE NOT NAZIS.”
And you wonder why people think the GOP is a complete fucking joke these days.
Have fun getting crushed again in 2010, 2012, and beyond.
Come on–it’s OBVIOUS these are Democrat plants put there to try to make the GOP look bad. SNORT SNORT SNORT
Right Gabe?
Hmmm, a sign with a swastika that says ‘No Repeats’.
Sounds ‘fishy’. You libs should do what Obama tells you to do and report this sign holder who’s calling for no repeats of the horrors of the past to his henchmen.
Per Obama’s website, you can send this pic to flag@whitehouse.gov.
No repeats, indeed.
And for Christ sakes, Oliver, that kid looks to be all of about 17 years old. His friend is wearing a shirt from his high school.
A little blogging opportunism for you there, hmmm?
And for what, to back up some of the lunacy of Nancy Pelosi, who you guys despise? You sell your soul for her? With this??
Not your best effort.
These can’t be Republican protestors. They’re not wearing Brooks Brothers!
Oliver, you’re a saint.
If this was my site, I would tolerate the occasional “you’re a moron” or “what a dumbass,” like you already do.
But remarks like SAM NY just made would get a motherfucker banned.
So the photo Oliver posts is not of a Neo-Nazi, but of somebody who believes that Obama is a Nazi.
Oh, I’m MUCH more inclined to sympathize with the position of an absolute moron over that of a racist. Brav-O.
Bruce, I’m partially with you about that dipshit. I wouldn’t blame Oliver if he banned him — but I’m glad he didn’t. (If he didn’t.)
Those kinds of assholes don’t need banning — they do far more harm to themselves than to their targets.
But back to the topic at hand… could we find a few photos that are from BEFORE San Fran Nan made her grand pronouncement? Something that would clearly show that these signs were so prominent that the Speaker of the House knew all about them BEFORE she opened her yap?
In the meantime, I’ll be digging up all those BusHitler signs, the photoshops of Bush with the Hitler mustache, the elephants with swastikas, and whatnot… because I’m curious where all this sudden outrage is coming from.
J.
We all recognize this sign is not saying this guy is a Nazi. The pro-Nazi clan won’t be at the GOP rallies until we get to the immigration debate next year.
He’s a kid who doesn’tlook like he’s even old enough to vote, SpiderJ. This proves what, exactly? That Nancy Pelosi has a sliver of credibility? C’mon.
But, but, NANCY PELOSI WENT TO SYRIA!!! AAAARGH!!! Logan Act! Blarble flug!
It costs over 1,000 dollars a month for an individual to buy Blue Cross insurance. Cons have no solutions only cries of “socialism!”
It’s like you type out stuff verbatim from a menu of crazy.
Must be a keyboard macro.
Hmmm, a sign with a swastika that says ‘No Repeats’.
Sounds ‘fishy’.
No, it doesn’t, Dennis. It’s just fucking stupid. Incredibly stupid.
Unless it is an ancient Hindu symbol of the cosmic wheel, then it all makes sense.
Or something.
Oh, so this 17 year old isn’t someone you think Obama would want you snitching on and reporting to his website. This isn’t fishy enough? Not what he was talking about?
Let’s not be so harsh – it’s clear that these people just don’t want a government bureaucrat standing between them and their insurance provider’s denial of coverage.
They also don’tlook forward to some douchbag government employee knocking on their door for their annual end of life consultation, rip.
Imagaine what that’s like when you know he’s coming and you here the knock at the door. “Hey, good to see ya, man. Can I get you anything? Cup of coffee, glass of water, beer, wine, ….anything?”
“Is it time for me to pack it in now, or can you give me another year?”
Oh, so this 17 year old isn’t someone you think Obama would want you snitching on and reporting to his website. This isn’t fishy enough? Not what he was talking about?
No, Dennis, not what he was talking about. Not even close. Go find an eight year old to explain it to you.
Are you seriously such a moron that you don’t understand what that web site is all about? Did you read the whole thing or did you just skim the headline that you saw on Blenn Geck’s website? I know that it’s a lot sexier if you think you can equate the reporting of false and misleading information with brownshirts and communism and Stalin and the Stosi and KGB and whatever other fucking fever dreams you can come up with, but even you can’t be this dense.
The way you just repeat every Fox approved talking point, it’s clear you can’t think of things on your own.
it’s clear that these people just don’t want a government bureaucrat standing between them and their insurance provider’s denial of coverage.
Win.
I got that from Drudge, Duros. Give me a break.
I got that from Drudge, Duros. Give me a break.
Spoken without irony, apparently. Because we all know how reliable and trustworthy Drudge is…
It’s Friday, teflon_tim. And Duros doesn’t do irony, so he’s in a state of apoplexy right about now.
I didn’t think I’d return to this forum so soon, but at last it seems an astonishing re-shaping of the political landscape is taking place these days. Obama’s inexperience is starting to show. The Democrat party is seriously over-reaching. Stunned liberals are now on the receiving end of tactical political protest. Memories of the Bush era are fading fast. Seniors are poised to swing heavily to the GOP in 2010.
All the “hope” in the world isn’t going salvage this trainwreck. Cheers!
Okay. If you say so. I really hope you put all your money down on that.
“Is it time for me to pack it in now, or can you give me another year?”
Dennis, please point to anything, anything, in the bill that says the government will be advising people to end their lives.
I got that from Drudge, Duros. Give me a break.
Oh, well, that’s totally different. My bad, Dennis. Please to forgive me.
Stunned liberals are now on the receiving end of tactical political protest.
That’s tactical? Whoo boy.
I didn’t think I’d return burping up this type of garbage, but at last it seems people got tired of the dysfunctional being led by the subliterate for the last eight years. Despite majorites in the House and Senate, elected officials decided to have an open debate. Now, liberals are now on the receiving end of angry ingoramouses with too much time on their hands, whom of which brought nothing to the table except Glenn Beck talking points and acting like yap-dogs. Seniors are poised to swing heavily to their socialized Medicare and Social Security.
All the bathtub moonshine and internet porn in Hinseville isn’t going salvage the fact that my attention-whore Snowbilly Princess got her ass handed back to her. All I can do now is bitch and moan.
Theres also too much light in this bunker. Please turn it down.
Fixed.
They also don’tlook forward to some douchbag government employee knocking on their door for their annual end of life consultation, rip.
Seriously? That well is dry, Dennis. Do we have to post the contents of that section of the PRE-EXISTING Medicare rules again to clear it up for you? Do you have that 8 year old handy to explain things to you?
The sign says “No Repeats”. In other words, he doesn’t want a repeat of what happened in Germany in the 30′s and 40′s. After all, Hitler was also a community organizer with a silver tongue who had a rapid ascension to the presidency.
There are no government solutions. Except for abortion and war. And unchecked unquestioned police, homeland security, and international and domestic spying activities. And medicare. And interning certain races of peoples. Maybe the internet, communication satellites, GPS, and humvees. And colluding with power brokers in corporations to maintain their status quo including encouraging the offshoring of manufacturing and technology to potential enemies. And photo ops on aircraft carriers and such. And only allowing certain like minded peoples to attend meetings. And religious preferences. But besides that, there are no government solutions.
“Seniors are poised to swing heavily to the GOP in 2010.”
Because what seniors want more than anything is to have their Medicare taken away, not to mention their Social Security, because both are (in wing-nut “logic”) Socialist giveaways.
Uh-huh.
What we’re seeing are the last throes of a dying “conservatism” that was all along nothing more than a sham. People don’t paint swastikas and go out parading with them when they have ideas, they do it because they are scared, desperate, and realizing that America has left them behind forever.
Don’t forget Blackwater, FreD.
They also don’tlook forward to some douchbag government employee knocking on their door for their annual end of life consultation, rip.
Holy mackerel, Dennis. You repeated a proven lie and even got the lie wrong. Your talking point is supposed to say the bill requires end of life counseling every five years, not every year.
Sheesh.
BFD, Quibbie. WTF is this end of life counseling that’s in the bill, anyway. Why is it even in there?
And you parrotted Oliver’s assertion that John Cornyn sympathized with judges being killed. Did you ever come up with a link for that horseshit of a liberal talking point? Actually, I don’t even think it was a talking point, other than Oliver saying it, because I couldn’t find any other lib bloggers saying it. Unless you do.
“WTF is this end of life counseling that’s in the bill, anyway. Why is it even in there?”
Clue – sometimes end of life counseling is needed.
WTF is this end of life counseling that’s in the bill, anyway. Why is it even in there?
Well, Dennis, it means that if you decide you would like to put together a living will so that there is some set of instructions for your care in case you are incapable of making those decisions (like now, for instance), Medicare will cover the expense.
I can get you the text, but I don’t think it will help you.
Oh, btw, this legislative rule is already in the Medicare program. This language just amends a rule that is already there and introduced by Republicans after the Schiavo debacle.
And you parrotted Oliver’s assertion that John Cornyn sympathized with judges being killed.
“LOOK! OVER THERE!”
Dennis, do you even know what end of life counseling is? You’ve repeated a thoroughly debunked lie. You are a liar. Quit the internet. Hang up your hat. Your trolling days are done.
MOH, please go back up to what I said and kindly tell me what I wrote that makes me a liar.
Michael Over Here, please show the lie, or else send an email of the fishiness you claim I told to flag@whitehouse.gov
I realize I may have said something that according to Barry Gibbs puts me on thin ice, but it was not a lie.
What do the Bee Gees have to do with this?
There’s no provision for mandatory, yearly, door to door end of life counseling. You are a liar. Go home and lie to someone else.
OK, like I said to QIB, it’s every five years, BFD. You’re an asshole and a moron for calling me a liar for that. Go fuck yourself, MOH.
Because carrying around swastikas is a totally a classy, responsible thing to do as long as you’re screaming “OBAMA IS A BLACK NAZI BUT WE OURSELVES ARE NOT NAZIS.”
I guess the “classy responsible thing to do” is to call people opposed to Obama-care “f**king nazis”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjzEPcp3r7U
“Fucking prick Nazi!”
“Who’s the angry mob?” A: “You are bitch!”
Where’s Nancy Pelosi????
Class class class.
WTF is this end of life counseling that’s in the bill, anyway. Why is it even in there?
Wait, you don’t even know what’s in the bill but you feel confident enough to spout all day long about it?
Read the bill for yourself, Den’. Come on back when you know what you’re talking about.
BFD, Quibbie.
For a guy with limited credibility as it is, Dennis, I’m surprised that you’re so casual in flushing what little you do how down the crapper.
OK, like I said to QIB, it’s every five years, BFD.
Then you double down on the distortion? Not a proud moment for you, Dennis.
I’m sure you thought that this:
“Is it time for me to pack it in now, or can you give me another year?”
was rather clever. But there is nothing in the bill that would suggest the government will be coming around every five years or so and suggesting euthanasia as an option. Nothing.
It does, however, make it requirement for doctors to remind patients every five years, at least, that palliative and hospice care are available to patients who would prefer it.
Do you know what palliative and hospice care are, Dennis?
Clearly not. But clever trumps the truth with you it seems.
And you parrotted Oliver’s assertion that John Cornyn sympathized with judges being killed. Did you ever come up with a link for that horseshit of a liberal talking point?
Google is your friend, hotshot.
I realize I may have said something that according to Barry Gibbs puts me on thin ice, but it was not a lie.
Whether most conservatives are liars, stupid or both is a debate that will probably never be settled. In this case, Dennis, if you deny it was a lie, I’ll take your word for it, but understand that really only leaves us with stupid as your excuse.
Oh and Jay?
Nice diversion.
Yes, it is my friend.
This is what you charged him with and asked me to compare to the Obama Snithc Program thuggery:
______
“Excellent. A Republican senator voices “understanding” for people who threaten to kill judges? Not thuggery.”
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I don’t see anywhere in that article or Cornyn’s quote where he voiced understanding for people who threatened to kill judges. Maybe you do, but I don’t.
So MOH calls me a liar for getting the annual vs. 5 year periods wrong on the end of life program. I won’t call you a liar, but I would like to know how you stretched Cornyn’s quote out to his having said he understands how someone would threaten to kill a judge. Even Think Progress didn’t go that far. Oliver did, and you followed right along.
So MOH calls me a liar for getting the annual vs. 5 year periods wrong on the end of life program.
That’s what you think you got wrong? The timing of the visits?
Dennis, no where in the bill anywhere is anyone required to receive counseling about ending their life, ever. Period.
I’m nowhere close to end of life consultations, fafaroo, and my parents are both gone, so I got it wrong about the annual vs. five year plan. You guys pounced. Like I said, BFD. MOH was an asshole to call me a liar for something like that and you’re one, albeit not as big of one, for calling me stupid over it.
And you are regressing rapidly, fafaroo. It’s the weekend in August, lighten up. Go out and get a six pack of Blue Moon. You get yourself bent out of shape over a casual mistake of a mention over annual vs 5yr ‘Put Granny to Perma-sleep Program’, you got some serious issues.
Oh and Dennis, if you think that’s what Quaker was pointing out to you, clearly you don’t do irony either.
You get yourself bent out of shape over a casual mistake of a mention over annual vs 5yr ‘Put Granny to Perma-sleep Program’, you got some serious issues.
And there we have it.
Not only do you not do irony.
Not only can you not tell when you are being openly mocked.
You also have absolutely no fucking idea what you’re talking about either.
Both he and Oliver made it sound like Cornyn was okaying killing judges. No, I don’t see the irony there. And I don’t see anything in that article that indicates he ever did that.
Do you fafaroo?
You get yourself bent out of shape over a casual mistake of a mention over annual vs 5yr ‘Put Granny to Perma-sleep Program’, you got some serious issues.
I’m surprised at you, Den’. Way back when we started out on this thread, I told you that you had repeated a lie AND got the lie wrong.
The 1 year versus 5 year thing is where you went wrong. That wasn’t the lie. The lie was the part about there being mandatory counseling.
Now you’ve already admitted you don’t know what’s in the bill and you’ve also managed to bungle your recitation of what you don’t know.
Please become informed.
That provision in the health care bill can mean anything anyone wants it to mean. You aren’t an expert on the intent nor the definition and limits of that particular passage. So you have no idea what you are talking about.
And I don’t see anything in that article that indicates he ever did that.
And there’s not a thing in the health care bill as currently proposed that resembles anything close to a‘Put Granny to Perma-sleep Program.’ Nothing.
And yet, here you are insinuating that there is.
But keep dancing, Dennis. Keep dancing.
Quaker, I’m trying to become informed; I keep asking you where Cornyn condoned judge killers.
As to the charge if claiming mandatory anything, here’s what I said, most of it obviously in jest”
I don’t see the word “mandatory”. Do you? I don’t see even the first hint of it. I don’t see a dog-whistle, if you want to go there.
You are following fafaroo in the ‘make shit up’ category, and if you’re surprised at me, imagine how I must feel about you. You’re the one guy I thought was above that, besides Parthy, anyway. Now with the phantom Cornyn quote, this is two in two days.
Not good, Quibbie.
That provision in the health care bill can mean anything anyone wants it to mean. You aren’t an expert on the intent nor the definition and limits of that particular passage. So you have no idea what you are talking about.
ROFLMAO. You haven’t read it have you?
But even if you have, are you now going to continue on with your Cronyn dodge?
I mean, seriously, Dennis, if anyone can interpret a piece of legislation to mean anything they want it to mean they can certainly do the same with a bunch of overheated rhetoric spewed by a Senator in a speech.
Right?
Dennis, just stop. Please. You’re getting pathetic.
Yeah, but what are you liberals going to do now that the most powerful, brilliant politician in America, Sarah Palin has decided to stop Obama’s “death panel” from killing her baby Trig.
You libruls won’t have the decency to admit it, but that’s what this has all been about — killing Trig Palin. That’s Obama’s whole goal, and it’s the reason that the Kenyans sent him to Hawaii 48 years ago.
Oh good grief. Dance away from the Cornyn blunder that you defended. If Granny costs too much to keep alive, what happens to Granny, fafaroo? You put her out on an ice floe and ask if you can have the nice dinette set of hers?
I don’t see the word “mandatory”.
Good heavens.
Are you going to try to convince us that you were trying to say that a “douchebag government employee” would come knocking on the door for optional counseling? Are you actually going to make your last stand on this issue on the absence of the word “mandatory” when you describe it as a “Put Granny in a Perma-Sleep Program”?
I really hope you are, cause that would be about as close as I’ve ever seen you come to actually admitting defeat.
Re: Cornyn
Apparently you ignored the link I provided. Ever helpful, I provide and excerpt for your edification:
Dance away from the Cornyn blunder that you defended.
What? When did I ever say anything about Cornyn except just now when I pointed out that you’re finding the most horrific kind of ambiguity in a piece of legislation but will allow no interpretation of Cronyn’s heated rhetoric?
If Granny costs too much to keep alive, what happens to Granny, fafaroo?
Which way you goin’ with this, Den’? First you argue that the government shouldn’t provide any health care. Then you argue that it should provide more health care.
You want Granny to have health care or not?
fafaroo, I’ve addressed everything I’ve said and everything you’ve thrown at me. You won’t address your defending Quibbie and Oliver’s obvious lie about Cornyn okaying judge killers.
You cross-examined me to no end about Jay Tea’s operation 15 years ago but never said whether Jaim was justified in demanding that he show appreciation to him, nor did you address how much you think someone in Korea making $30,000 USD pays back to the IRS with the exclusion he gets. Nor what the probability a 15 year old, 15 years ago, would’ve been that he paid any federal taxes at all after filing his 1040.
In short, fafaroo, you don’t play cricket. You play like Strowbridge. You call me a dancer, but you are much better than me at it.
Also, any liberal who wants the estate tax repeal to expire is just doing so in order to have greedy inheritors killing their wealthy parents and grandparents and relatives.
It’s all part of the same plot, don’t you see.
My wife is asking me what the heck is so funny as I sit here laughing at this absurd conversation. Quibbie, if you are going to call me a liar for saying something was mandatory when it’s not, then you should be able to show some sort of quote that says I said that. It looks like you went with the OW.com ever-popular dog-whistle phantom charge that ecompasses just about anything you want it to to call someone a liar.
Again, surprised at you.
If Granny costs too much to keep alive, what happens to Granny, fafaroo?
Dennis, read the fucking bill for godsakes. There is absolutely nothing in it that say the State will pull the plug on someone because they “cost too much to keep alive.”
IN FACT, the five year advance care planning consultation is to allow patients and families to understand the full range of CARE available to them and to ensure that the patient and family have left written instructions about what care to provide in end of life cases. Specifically, such directives can include, to quote the bill:
So, you stupid moron, what you are trying to spin as a program to ‘Put Granny to Perma-sleep Program’ is actually set up to PROTECT patients and families by ensuring that can request FULL TREATMENT for the loved ones in case of a medical emergency.
It’s about protecting people and making sure they have all the information they need to ensure the level of care THEY WANT.
If you can find any language in the bill that could be construed to mean that the State should and will counsel people to END LIFE, go for it. Here’s the link:
http://edlabor.house.gov/documents/111/pdf/publications/AAHCA-BillText-071409.pdf
I’m sure we’ll be hearing from you.
Quaker-
Re:Cornyn
No, I didn’t ignore that link nor that excerpt. That is pitiful of you and Oliver to make that charge that he understands people killing judges. Even that excerpt goes out of it’s way not make anywhere close to that assertion. I took the time the other night to look to see if any other wingnut netroots blogs were making the claim you and Oliver were, and I couldn’t find any. Even at the ones people throw out here that are nuttier than fruitcakes. So you and Oliver appear to be flying solo (or duo?) on that one.
You won’t address your defending Quibbie and Oliver’s obvious lie about Cornyn okaying judge killers.
Dennis, it’s simple. Cornyn’s comments can mean anything anyone wants them to mean. You aren’t an expert on Cornyn’s inner soul, its intents nor the definition and limits of what he really meant.
Satisfy you, Dennis?
You might be, but not tonight. I apologize. But if it means anything, I will tell you that I am quite flattered that you and Quibbie think highly enough of me that you want to make sure I am well informed of the minority viewpoint on Obamacare. It means a lot to me.
Hold me closer, tiny dancer.
And Dennis, I think we can all see who’s ducking and dodging and who isn’t in this thread.
You made what you thought was a clever joke about granny asking the government man if she could have one more year to live, as if this resembles anything in the bill.
You got called on it and then dragged out the Cornyn dodge.
That didn’t quite get the heat off you and now you’re pushing “The bill is so ambiguous it could mean anything so there.”
That’s basically it, Dennis.
You’ve cited no actual language from the bill to support your claim that it allows the government to terminate someone’s life.
I cited some specific language and provided a link to the bill.
You come back here with language what supports your claims and we’ll talk about it.
I bet you won’t.
I’ll bet you go back to talking about Cornyn.
My mother-in-law is with us this weekend; she lives less than a half mile from that Pittsburgh gym killing site and the guy I thought your following the same path as, fafaroo.
She’s been worried sick about that dreaded knock on the door from some Obama stormtrooper. I’ll go tell her right now that if she gets past the first one, she’s got another five years before she has to start worrying again. Thanks for the heads up on that one. You guys are ok sometimes.
Are you going to try to convince us that you were trying to say that a “douchebag government employee” would come knocking on the door for optional counseling? Are you actually going to make your last stand on this issue on the absence of the word “mandatory” when you describe it as a “Put Granny in a Perma-Sleep Program”?
I see we have our answer.
She’s been worried sick about that dreaded knock on the door from some Obama stormtrooper. I’ll go tell her right now that if she gets past the first one, she’s got another five years before she has to start worrying again. Thanks for the heads up on that one. You guys are ok sometimes.
I’m sorry, is this a quote from the bill?
She’s been worried sick about that dreaded knock on the door from some Obama stormtrooper.
Oh and Dennis, it’s nice that you’d rather keep your mother in law living in fear than telling her the actual truth.
What a sweet guy.
Fafaroo, a cop-out of sorts to link to someone else here in this little spat about nuances and dances and equivalencies, cross-examinations and yuour dogged pursuit of God only knows what but here:
Getting to the bottom of ‘End of Life Counseling’ Proposals
“End of life counseling” isn’t mandated under the Democrats’ legislation. As the bill is currently written, at age 65, you’re simply invited to participate in a discussion with a doctor about when the government will stop paying for your health care. The federal government has even generously decided to underwrite the costs of this meeting between you and the doctor about when the government will stop paying for your health care.
The decision of when you stop draining valuable and limited government resources and accept your demise is an intensely personal decision, between you, your doctor, and the yet-to-be-appointed members of the medical review board. And of course, it is absolutely unimaginable that this process could somehow lead to an incentive to limiting how much the government will spend on your health care as you become older and older. The federal government’s newfound emphasis on eliminating “unnecessary and wasteful” expenditures in health care will find some other procedures to eliminate, like all those blue pills when the red pills are just as good and cost half as much.
Don’t let these crowds of nervous seniors confuse you; they’re probably confused themselves. Government programs never have unintended consequences, and federal programs never expand and grow beyond their original purpose and mandate. As you look at your federal government, you can rest assured that they have absolutely no problem spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on medical procedures to keep you alive, even if the actuarial tables suggest you’ll be dead pretty soon anyway.
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Sorry, family is calling. I’ll pick it up with you later if you want, I promise.
Fafaroo, a cop-out of sorts to link to someone else here in this little spat about nuances and dances and equivalencies, cross-examinations and yuour dogged pursuit of God only knows what but here:
I give you the actual bill and you give me NRO.
Yes, Dennis, that’s a cop out, indeed.
And what’s more? The NRO article doesn’t quote a single word from the bill itself either.
So now we know what passes for substance in your mind.
I see we have our answer.
Quibbie- really had thought you might’ve amended your judge killer charge.
No?
Shame on you, dude.
You don’t want to get me started on that one, trust me.
I gotta go, sorry.
Geraghty certainly knows his audience, Den’. He lied right in your face knowing that you wouldn’t bother to click the link he provided.
Dennis, when you get back, maybe you can start by telling us
1) Why you cited us an article with a demonstrable lie/egregious piece of misinformation?
2) Why you didn’t know it was a demonstrable lie/egregious piece of misinformation?
To wit:
Geraghty writes:
And the bill says:
So the bill quote clearly states that this consultation is between a patient and their doctor and/or nurse practitioner.
No where does it mention that a medical review board will be involved in this consultation.
So Geraghty either never read the bill and is stupid, or he’s lying to you.
And you had no idea.
And I defy you to find anything related to advanced care planning consultations in the bill that would support Geraghty’s claim that one of the factors under consideration in these consultations is cost.
Of course, Geraghty pulls a neat conservative trick at the end of his article.
As he sarcastically puts it:
Which is another way of saying don’t bother to look for any of the things I’ve told you in the actual bill. (Because they aren’t there.) Just trust me.
Liars always think the people who point out that they are lying are assholes. I’m glad you’ve taken my advice to go home and lie to someone else as an excuse to go home and lie to your mother-in-law. You must love her very much.
One thing you gotta hand to these wingnuts, is after all those years of convoluted compassionate conservative policies, they’ve gotten pretty damn good at squirrelly logic. Bush = Hitler was a satanic outrage, but Obama = Hitler is a legitimate talking point.
‘Seniors are poised to swing heavily to the GOP in 2010.
All the “hope” in the world isn’t going salvage this trainwreck. Cheers!’
Jesus, that couldn’t sound more desperate; teabaggers, birthers and now hysterical rants in town halls.
THIS is your strategy for success?
Of course Dennis is telling his mother-in-law that Obama’s stormtroopers are going to be coming after her – it’s his MOTHER-IN-LAW! I’m sure the look on the old lady’s face was priceless – nearly made up for the look the wife gave him when he tried to explain what was “so funny” on the internet.
‘She’s been worried sick about that dreaded knock on the door from some Obama stormtrooper.’
For someone who claims he wants to be informed, you’re doing a good job of scaring the shit out of your mother in law with a boatload of lies.
Nice job beating up the conservative black guy, libs. Keeping it classy as always!
Dennis, don’t you ever tire of getting your ass kicked all over these boards?
“Obama storm-trooper”
What the fuckity fuck?
Gabriel, as usual I’ve got to ask: what the fuck are you talking about?
Oh, this is cool — according to Rachel Maddow, the part of the health care reform legislation under discussion which Palin and other idiot and/or cynical paranoids barks as referring to ‘death panels’ was crafted by Georgia Republican Senator Johnny Isaakson.
My Senator! And a Republican!
I guess the Sean Hannitys and Glenn Becks will now get on board with the ‘death panels’ since it’s a Great American Patriot Conservative idea, right?
Yet another post where OW is completely off his nut, making shit up, and doesn’t admit he was wrong.
The liberals on this site always ask why “wingnuts” post here. The better question is why anyone does?
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/health-care-reform/2009/08/adl_condemns_nazi_slurs_in_hea.html?hpid=news-col-blog
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpxmYvlLKXo&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fgatewaypundit.blogspot.com%2F&feature=player_embedded
That’s all you can come up with to back Pelosi’s irresponsible comment?
While I don’t agree with their approach, the person in that picture is clearly saying that they don’t want a socialist state, like much of what the current administration is trying to do. Go ahead, compare the policies of the far left wingers in Congress to much of the policies of socialist Germany, and you will see why people are concerned.