I’ve clearly had my differences with Sec. Clinton (like all of 2008!) but sometimes she wins. Like here, where she just laughs her ass off at the mere mention of foreign policy moron John Bolton:
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Captain Kangaragnarok laughed at again. News at 11.
Always wondered what happened to Yosemite Sam; figures he’d be part of the pro-war crowd.
Now you know why the Conservatives *HATED* the Clintons so much…They’re smart, well-connected, educated, respected….everything the Cons aren’t. They’re capable of issuing the smack-down without being nakedly insulting or resulting to name-calling…..
LOL
John Bolton, former fake Ambassador to the UN and professional punch line.
Is that why you guys hated them so much here last spring and summer, or were there other reasons?
Is that why you guys hated them so much here last spring and summer, or were there other reasons?
Can’t speak for everyone here, but when it was obvious that she was mathematically out of the primary yet still pressed on, that was rather annoying.
People can disagree with some views another person has, and not outright hate them.
“Are you talking to me while Hillary is doing ‘The Cackle?’”
Tell me, Oliver, did you love when she said this, too?
“We Are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with ANY administration!”
Because the sentiment seems to really be chapping your ass these days.
Because the sentiment seems to really be chapping your ass these days.
I’ve got no problem with debate and dissent. But howling to cut off conversation is the conservative MO right now.
Secretary of State is a much better fit for Hillary Clinton than President. She is doing a great job. Wonderful laugh now that she is not under the pressure of running for President. I am so glad those young ladies are back home.
People can disagree with some views another person has, and not outright hate them.
See, that’s where you lose folks like Dennis.
Even a sociopath understands that the consistent tough guy approach is weaker than the fuller palette of diplomatic options.
But howling to cut off conversation is the conservative MO right now.
And it’s been countered in the traditional leftist manner – physical violence and intimidation by union activists. How Jimmy Hoffa!
This is more to your taste?
Can’t have double standards unless you have a standard to begin with.
It all depends who gets to be the tyrant, right?
I mean, it’s not as if there was any liberal howling when the Bush administration tried to collect information on terrorist activity through the TIPS program, right? That was an invasion of privacy, went the complaint, an overreach of executive power! But President Obama soliciting email addresses of healthcare reform opponents to flag@whitehouse.gov is just peachy.
It must be, or surely you’d have said something about this obvious and baldfaced effort to compile an enemies list.
32 czars, unbound by the Senatorial confirmation process and oversight. Unitary executive? Oh, that’s so 2008!
When President Obama tells his internet myrmidons to “get up in people’s faces and argue with them,” that’s okay. When he sends out “Online Action Alerts” to get people to flood Milt Rosenberg’s WGN radio show when Stanley Kurtz and David Freddoso visited to talk about some of Obama’s connections to Bill Ayers, you’re oddly silent about these intimidation techniques.
But let a conservative shout at a congressman, a time-honored American tradition, and watch you and your fellow travelers wet the bed!
This is really the first time that true-blue, down-and-dirty Chicago style intimidation tactics have been seen on a national stage in 40 years. And golly, getting things done the Chicago Way doesn’t seem to be the exclusive province of the Chicago Machine any more.
As I said elsewhere, it’s very interesting, and surely coincidental that physical violence erupted at town halls only after the union jackboots arrived and raised the stakes. Because that’s all Chicago politics really is – “he brings a knife, you bring a gun, he sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue.”
And when all you have is a hammer, every problem is a nail to be pounded. Chicago, St. Louis, Tampa, it makes no difference.
It’s not the tactics that bother you, is it Oliver?
No. Of course not.
It’s the fact that they work as well against your agenda, as they do for your agenda.
Grassroots conservatives have stolen your playbook, and you have no experience playing defense.
Don’t worry, you’ll learn on the job. The same way we did.
“It’s the fact that they work as well against your agenda, as they do for your agenda.”
Which is why the latest polling shows most American’s favor Obama’s plan?
That’s the funny thing about you cons. Ever since 2006 you’ve forgotten that all the joking about blacks and gays and women doesn’t actually win you elections, but you think it does.
Very strange.
And it’s been countered in the traditional leftist manner – physical violence and intimidation by union activists. How Jimmy Hoffa!
Quit making shit up.
Do yourself a favor. Turn off the tv. Don’t read the paper except to do the crossword. Go play outside. Do that for a week.
You’ll feel better.
Funny, I don’t see much evidence that any of this teabagger crazy nonsense is working. But you guys double-down on that, if that’s what you think, put all your eggs into that basket — please. Please don’t throw us librul Bill Ayers thugs into that brier patch, no, no, please don’t.
President Obama soliciting email addresses of healthcare reform opponents
That’s another lie. Stop it.
I honestly think he can’t help it anymore, Quaker. He seems to have lost the will to think.
O/T, only because I’m not a twitterer.
TwitOliver: did @karlrove have secret service detail? i doubt so.
You doubt wrong.
Matt 621: “We Are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with ANY administration!”
… the sentiment seems to really be chapping your ass these days.
Not at all. Liberals love debate and disagreement, regardless of who’s in charge. Have you read Glenn Greenwald lately?
I mean, I voted for Bill Clinton twice, and if I had it to do over again I’d do the same thing, and I had major disagreements with his time in office. I’m not impressed with much of Hillary Clinton’s politics, but she gets a few things right, and when she does I appreciate that. Barack Obama is one of the most inspiring politicians I’ve ever seen, and will probably turn out to be the best president of my lifetime, but he has also made some terrible decisions so far — and I’m not afraid to say so when he does.
It’s called nuance. Liberals don’t act like they’re part of the Borg. We understand that people have the capacity to make both good and bad choices. That’s why we don’t rip each other to shreds for disagreeing out loud. In fact, we encourage it. Dissent reminds us that we are free people. Debate is often educational, particularly if it’s expressed in a respectful way.
Shouting prevents dissent. Shouting is not the expression of an argument, it is the suppression of an argument. It indicates that those doing the shouting are afraid of ideas, afraid of what might happen if they took the time to listen or had the consideration to let others do so.
It’s why I don’t often watch Crossfire or listen to the bloviations of Limbaugh or the “conversations” of Hannity and O’Reilly. Not because I disagree with their ideas, but because I can’t adequately consider their ideas while they’re in the midst of a tantrum — and I find it difficult to respect their ideas when they’re interrupting others.
I mean, that’s just rude.
Just don’t run against her, or she’ll too-happily do what she did last time.
MORE of the same, please!
This is the APPROPRIATE response to any and all neocon nicompoopery. They must be laughed off the set of every cable show, every op-ed in the land. No other group has been so consistently wrong about absolutely everything.
‘I mean, it’s not as if there was any liberal howling when the Bush administration tried to collect information on terrorist activity through the TIPS program, right?’
Poor, poor Dumbya; constantly maligned unfairly and unrecognized as the brilliant diplomat and military genius….
Nope…couldn’t even finish that as sarcastic retort.
Bush is a joke and those who continue to support him after everything that’s known about his abject failures and Herculean hubris is simply sad.
‘Grassroots conservatives have stolen your playbook, and you have no experience playing defense.
Don’t worry, you’ll learn on the job. The same way we did.’
Jumpin’ Jehosephat, you are one deluded shazzbot.
Hillary Clinton seems to be doing a decent job. I still find her to be a repulsive human being.
Bolton is ridiculous.
Matt is awesome! I had never previously seen a conspiracy theory being made up in real time! Thanks man!
Rush Limbaugh speaks of ‘jackbooted union thugs’ and the mindless parrots do nothing more than repeat.
That’s one more play in the cynical playbook at work here.
1. Create oultine for amateur middle class nihilists to follow: disrupt; heckle; shout down and suck up all the air in any town hall meeting so no one but the lemmings can be heard;
2. Respond to any attempt, any attempt to keep or restore order by screaming ‘jackbooted thuggery’ etc.
3. In other words if no attempt is made to try to instill some modicum of civilized behavior – the meetings will continue to be shouted down; in the event the lemmings do get called out on their behavior scream foul. “LOOK MA THE BAD TEAACHER MADE ME STOP KICKING SAND IN THE SAND BOX!!! WHAAAAAA.”
The unintended irony here is that this is pretty much the same playbook used by Stalin’s legions at union meeting halls for example in the US and abroad in the 30s-50s, disrupt, shout down and react with mock outrage when confronted. They also counted on mindless allegiance to the ‘correct line’.
Oh, and how did these same folks respond to campus disruption of speeched by Coulter, Malkin etc. – - – I seem to recall a lot of condemnation of their un-American behavior in trying to suppress speech, they’re afraid of countering ideas etc. If you were correct then – why are you correct now? Give up? You’re not.
Hey, that clip is good! In a way, it’s all the better when it’s somebody you’ve had problems with; at least, that’s my reaction. So much more fun to be on the same side, especially with somebody as smart and capable as the Sec of State.
Has anybody noticed that in the last 1-2 weeks we’ve seen both Clintons working solidly like Democrats to advance the President’s programs? (And the country’s, of course; that’s the point.) Must be really scary to their enemies, and it seems to be showing.
Also must annoy some idiots on my so-called side, which is also OW’s, who were sure she would insidiously subvert all Obama’s work.
Oh, those were concern trolls? Yeah, I guess that could be true.