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I am curious how many American will see this ad. It could be a little tighter and a little more emphatic. But it is better than nothing, I suppose.
I dont understand how the left wing could sound more stupid. Strategy: Silence opposition
Tactic One: IGNORE
Tactic two: Insult and try to delegitimize opposition
Tactic three: Try and paint opponents as violent mobs (canes and walkers can be used as violent weapons)
Tactic four: Er, uh, what would Saul say??
We are at stage 2.5.
there is talk of shortening it and putting it on national TV. good idea, I say.
Just like the almost comically petty-evil Palin mobs during the election, these orchestrated mobs will cause Americans to FLEE from their cause.
Republicans rejoice in exploiting the ugly underbelly of American willful-ignorance and racism, let them reap the whirlwind….again.
“I need you to go out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors. I want you to talk to them whether they are independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face,”
March, Oliver.
March on to beat of Dick Durbin’s drum.
March, little minion, march.
March like a good little peasant.
March for your crust of bread.
March, little minion, march.
March, you transparent, empty-headed acolyte.
Ok -so how many took the then nominee Obama literally and disrupted a McCain / Palin rally?
Alright then, you may now shut your pipehole.
Yes, march! And make sure you bring a sign and say exactly what the lobbying group paying for your bus ticket tells you to as well, Oliver.
Sigh.
Yes, marching orders, Pollack.
Obama/Axelrod….lib blogger conference call/astroturfing campaign/Chicago thuggery….”need your help”….”debunk Republican “myths”"….
“Anyhow they’re clearly ramping up their push for healthcare reform and see the progressive blogosphere as an important part of that”
Yes, Dennis. Us thugs here got marchin’ orders to put on our ACORN T-shirts and Birkenstocks and went over to our senators’ office where we booed and hollered (while offering no alternatives and nothing to the debate except scary catchphrases) until we got our way.
Now where’s my dividend check?
My false equivalence receiver just exploded.
Shorter liberal tools…Commnuity organizing on the right, bad. Community organizing on the left, good.
I need you to go out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors. I want you to talk to them whether they are independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face,”
Yes, Dennis. Because that is EXACTLY the same as insurance industry lobbying groups disseminating a list of town hall meetings along with a list of tactics to disrupt them and thereby stiffle any civil discussion of the issue. You are fucking brilliant. High five!
You’re not the thugs, PD100, you’re just the apparatus the Chicago thugs use to force their will on the public. You’re just not aware of it, so I wouldn’t call you a thug.
And how old are your T-shirts and Birkenstocks, anyway?
ACORN’s gonna getcha!
Bush as president: protest is patriotic!
Obama as president: mob rule!
What say all of you about these incidents? Patriotic? Mob rule?
http://michellemalkin.com/2009/08/04/this-is-what-mob-rule-looks-like/
Man, you people are so fucking full of shit it’s unbelievable.
PD100, I think you guys just aren’t used to seeing conservatives angry. Normally,even though it annoys you to ne end, you’re used to seeing conservatives generally as happy,content and hard-working individuals. But now that you see them getting pissed off at the incompetence of this administration and taking time out of their busy schedules to protest and communicate their general disgust, liberals are in a state of shock over it. Libs are left wondering “That’s not how conservatives act, that’s how we act! WTF? They’re eating out of our bowl!”
Surely someone must be paying these guys to act angry, right? “These guys are mobs! They’re birthers! They’re Tea-baggers!”
Whatever they are, they have you guys freaking out.
Because that is EXACTLY the same as insurance industry lobbying groups [politiking].
One key difference: Axelrod is speaking for the Executive Branch of the government. If Bush had set up a email hotline for Republicans to narc on other citizens who opposed his policies, you’d be apoplectic. Dare I say Impeachment proceedings would have begun that afternoon.
PD100, I think you guys just aren’t used to seeing conservatives angry.
Sure, Dennis. And talk radio doesn’t exist.
Conservatives are always angry about something and at someone.
Always.
See if you can follow, my wingnut dearies:
1. Protest: good
2. Free speech: good
3. Shouting down other voices so they can’t be heard (no matter who does it): bad.
4. Engaging in #3 at townhall meetings, the very purposes of which is to allow different voices to be heard on an urgent issue: worse.
5. Launching a coordinated, nationwide plan to ensure that 4 happens as often as possible? worstest.
Which side is engaging in 5? Your side, which is why people are revolted by you and aren’t nearly as concerned about some nasty thing some acorn members did on some street in chicago some years ago.
Understand the difference? Knew ya couldn’t. That’s why you’re wingnuts: moral obtuseness is a prerequisite.
Whatever they are, they have you guys sitting back and enjoying the circus act.
Anytime you need a sentence rewritten so it corresponds to reality, Dennis, I’m your guy. And you can’t beat the price.
Conservatives being angry? You mean all those unhinged rednecks at Palin rallies shouting for Obama’s death weren’t angry? That’s just how they normally are 24-7?
PD100, I think you guys just aren’t used to seeing conservatives angry.
The same bunch who get the vapors over mustard, arugula and baseball pitching technique. You were saying?
Normally,even though it annoys you to ne end, you’re used to seeing conservatives generally as happy,content and hard-working individuals.
By “going Galt” and skipping work for Tea Parties (RE: “taking time out of their busy schedules to protest and communicate their general disgust”).
“ne end” -brilliant synthesis of the Olde English. Show-off.
Surely someone must be paying these guys to act angry, right?
It’s not an act! These dead-enders are always angry. “I WILL NEVER STOP FIGHTING AGAINST A TYRANNICAL GOVERNMENT THAT TRIES TO GIVE ME HEALTHCARE! LIKE HITLER DID!”
Whatever they are, they have you guys freaking out.
By dirupting public discourse on civic matters. How profoundly democratic. Freaked out? No. Just disappointed that Darwinism isn’t working fast enough.
Does anyone have any pics where people protesting Bush were in the facility where he was speaking, and yelling at him like a madman? Any video of Bush at a town hall meeting where people were calling him a liar and shouting the Pledge of Allegiance? Any news articles where Bush or even Cheney were being bullied by a crowd and weren’t even allowed to speak?
How about stories about these Democratic town hall meetings, where the audience is being screened out for fear of hearing opposing voices? Or people being arrested for wearing a pro-GOP T-shirts? Or people claiming to be Secret Service escorting dissenters out? Anyone?
P.S.: When you’re acting on behalf of rich lobbyists or wealthy insurance companies, and not of your own accord, it’s neither patriotic or mob rule. The fact that they are pushing for keeping the status quo and not presenting and alternative plan or idea is a clue. These people are mercenaries; Dreadnoks who will sell to the highest bidder.
Conservatives are always angry about something and at someone.
Rush, Cheney, Rove, Gingrich, all are total losers who never had a girlfriend, never hung out with the crowd, never got to be accepted by their peers during the formative years.
Rove wore a fuckin tie to high school…in the late 60s. Is there a quicker way to remain celibate?
I remember the junior GOP losers in my high school in the late 80s, same deal. They wore suits and ties to class. They realized they completely failed at being kids, so they just wanted to leap ahead into the adult world. And as they grew older, they grew even more resentful, once they realized they had to ‘wait’ until marriage.
Two things there, PD. No one got angry at Obama’s powderpuff throw. And no one, absolutely no one, who knows what a baseball is, would call that a baseball pitching technique.
Does anyone have any pics where people protesting Bush were in the facility where he was speaking, and yelling at him like a madman?
We have video. Does that count?
You work for those guys now, don’t you, Burned?
Ha ha, no, Dennis, I don’t work for some stuffy socially inept dork on his third marriage, on his second heart attack. You’d really like to think so, but I don’t, sorry to say.
“PD100, I think you guys just aren’t used to seeing conservatives angry.”
And what planet do you live on again? I guess if you don’t count frothing at the mouth in rabid euphoria as angry, then I guess you’re right. Reality is slippery slope for nut conservatives and we all suffer because of it. Back to your planet, wherever the fuck it is.
This is why the wingnuts can’t allow any actual discussion to go on at these town halls: Despite all the disinformation from wingnuts and their deep-pocketed corporate bankrollers, Americans favor the Obama plan 50 – 45. That favor is even more pronounced among younger voters (which means our future). An overwhelming majority, on the order of 75 percent, think comprehensive reform of our health care system is necessary – i.e. not the bandaids the right wing has been offering us for the last thirty years.
I love this country.
Scoreboard, Wilbur.
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1284.xml?ReleaseID=1357&What=&strArea=;&strTime=0
Quinnipiac Poll:
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American voters, by a 55 – 35 percent margin, are more worried that Congress will spend too much money and add to the deficit than it will not act to overhaul the health care system, according to a Quinnipiac University national poll released today. By a similar 57 – 37 percent margin, voters say health care reform should be dropped if it adds “significantly” to the deficit.
By a 72 – 21 percent margin, voters do not believe that President Barack Obama will keep his promise to overhaul the health care system without adding to the deficit, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University national poll finds.
American voters disapprove 52 – 39 percent of the way President Obama is handling health care, down from 46 – 42 percent approval July 1, with 60 – 34 percent disapproval from independent voters. Voters say 59 – 36 percent that Congress should not pass health care reform if only Democratic members support it. ….
Read the whole thing to fully appreciate it.
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Dems losing this one.
Time for Axelrod to call off his blogger Flying Monkeys and re-strategerize before it completely backfires on him and Obama.
Insurance company profits are awesome!
We have video. Does that count?
Awesome; a video of an Iraqi journalist throwing a shoe at President Bush while he was in Iraq making a speech.
That’s what supposed to be the equivalent of a lobbyist-sponsored Tea Bagger interrupting a US Congressman’s attempt to have some public dialogue on health care reform.
So to answer your question: NO.
Jesus, he’s not even trying anymore. From the very next sentence in Dennis’ link:
There is still strong support for critical elements of the Obama/Democratic plan:
* 62 – 32 percent in favor of giving people the option of a government insurance plan;
* 61 – 36 percent for higher taxes on high income earners to pay for health care reform;
* 60 – 32 percent in favor of insurance subsidies for individuals making up to $43,000 and families of four making up to $88,000;
* 54 – 38 percent for requiring businesses to provide insurance or pay the government.
Time to break out the “Free Speech Zones” yet?
Loyalty oaths? Check your voter registration card at the door?
W. Showed us that’s how you do discourse in this country now, amirite?
Tactic four: Er, uh, what would Saul say??
Who is this Saul guy everyone keeps talking about? Is a a friend or Ward Churchill or something?
Give it a fucking break.
The take away I got from that ad?
Losers. Sore WATB losers.
Sorry, Duros, as to ‘amirite’, no, you’re not.
A Study in Contrast
Read this and weep for the democracy you thought you were getting when you voted for Obama, and the Chicago thugs you got instead.
Grasping at straws, are we, Pollack? It’s not that I’m not even trying , it’s just that you seem to be trying too hard. Sure, people will be in favor of something they are getting that someone else will be paying for, but people don’t trust Obama on things he’s saying, namely. that he won’t raise taxes on people making less than $250,000, that it won’t increase the deficit, and that he doesn’t want a single-payer system.
The fact that there are mixed feelings to certain key aspects of whatever plan Obama is proposing, it doesn’t explain the logic of calling people who are upset about the BS Dems are feeding us as mobsters bought and paid for by insurance lobbyists like you guys are doing. Those people hold majority views according to these poll results.
If you think Obama is being truthful, you are in the minority. And all you’re doing by calling these people rabble-rousers is what Axelrod, Rahm and Gibbs all want you to do. Being their Flying Monkeys.
Grasping at straws, are we, Pollack?
Yes, I sure am desperate, posting the rest of the article you cut out that shows the overwhelming majority of support for the major elements of the Obama health care plan. I must really be in trouble to keep mentioning facts like that.
Jesus, he’s not even trying anymore…
Oh he’s trying, alright, it’s just that having an honest and intelligent discussion isn’t what he’s trying to do.
Instead he picks up a poo and flings it, and when that poo doesn’t stick he goes and finds another poo and flings that one. And then when we think he’s forgotten about the first poo, he goes and picks that one up again, licks it, pours some rubber cement on it and flings it one more time.
A more energetic poo slinger I’d be hard pressed to remember.
Sometimes it’s annoying, but when I get annoyed I just reflect on the fact that if he had something better than poo to sling he’d sling it, and that makes me smile.
Don’t be an ass, Pollack. Or at least, try not to be more of one.
Should I have posted the whole article?
I was making the point that these people you are calling mobs are not so much in the minority for what they are angry about. If I get what you are saying, that since there are some key elements of Obama’s plan that people are in favor of, ie, getting something for free that someone else will pay for, economy be damned; that the people who hold majority opinions not in keeping with Obama’s plans should then just STFU. That’s how you roll on this one?
Dennis, for the last fucking time I am not going to read your conservative twaddle about the death of the republic blah blah blah. It’s all bullshit meant to cover up the fact that YOU LOST! to a black dude.
I’m not having it.
Are you saying that Obama is herding protesters into a little chain link box a block away for the event? Because he isn’t George bush did that. George Bush and Dick Cheney threw people out of events for not being Republican enough. George Bush never answered a question that wasn’t screened,
So a Quinnipiac poll is poo to you, Wilbur? I gave the link to the complete poll results for anyone to refer to. According to you and Pollack, it’s poo if it doesn’t favor your side, or if the poll results I included confirmed a point I was trying to make but not yours? Even if I had included what Pollack thinks should have been included, it still doesn’t support liberal bloggers’ demonization of these angry protesters, since on many aspects regarding Obama’s honesty, they are in the distinct majority.
You’re an ass, Duros, simply because for a white guy to say that is just being plain lazy and it means you have no other argument. I voted for that black guy in my state primary- I thought at the time he’d be a better President than Hillary would be. Not that my vote mattered, but I was wrong at the time. I’d answer your question but you already stated you’ve read my posts for the last time, which I guess means after this last one you just read since you asked me questions about it.
Okay, you know what Denny? I read that and I fail to see what the fuck you are talking about. Gibbs says in a press conference that these protesters are puppets on a string and this looks “the democracy I thought I was getting” how exactly?
Compare and contrast your own self, toolbox, and then tell me how it’s Obama that threatens democracy.
How soon they forget.
I’d answer your question but you already stated you’ve read my posts for the last time,
Again, denny, reading comprehension. I meant I was telling you for the last time I’m not reading the drivel you point out just because you say “Heh, Read the whole thing.”
D’oh. You exasperate me, Duros. When exactly again is going to be the last time you read my twaddle?
I’m trying to help you but if you are going to close your eyes, there’s not a whole I can do.
I’m not even sure I should assume you just read that.
And all you’re doing by calling these people rabble-rousers is what Axelrod, Rahm and Gibbs all want you to do.
But Dennis, they ARE rabble-rousers. It has been proven. It is a fact. THEY are the dancing monkeys in this scenario, not any of us on the left or even in the White House. These folks get to stand next to Orly Taintz and take their place in the irrelevance column.
So Gibbs said some things about the protestors. Where is the death of democracy and the Chicago thug politics you’re talking about?
Am I back on your ‘must-read commenters’ list again, Duros?
It’s been proven because people like Babs Boxer says, they are too well dressed to be protesters? That’s your proof?
So a Quinnipiac poll is poo to you, Wilbur?
No, but your cherry-picking of the results of that poll is very poo.
You need to learn to think critically about poll questions and results, Dennis. “Americans disapprove of Obama’s handling of healthcare” means little: I disapprove of Obama’s handling of healthcare because I want him to fight harder. Put this together with the other numbers and what this means for many is that they approve of what Obama is aiming for, but worry that he’s not going to pull it off. This is shown by the clear majorities in favor of things like the public option. Of course people are worried about expanding the deficit – but that only makes them more likely to support the elements of Obama’s plan that will limit the short term deficit impact and vastly improve the long-term health care spending prospects.
Sorry, I just realized that all of that would go right over your head – or that you would deliberately duck. Whatever.
Even if I had included what Pollack thinks should have been included, it still doesn’t support liberal bloggers’ demonization of these angry protesters, since on many aspects regarding Obama’s honesty, they are in the distinct majority.
This is quite poo as well. Even if there were a clear majority of people in the country that backed their every point of view, they would still be wrong to engage in organized campaigns to shout down other views at town hall meetings. We didn’t demonize them, Dennis, they acted like demons. You either know that and are poo-flingin, or you don’t know that and are lame.
The Obama Internet Snitch Brigade for starters, Duros.
Asking Americans to turn in other Americans for health care ‘hate crimes’, Duros?
C’mon now.
Am I back on your ‘must-read commenters’ list again, Duros?
Read the comment again, Dennis. Maybe move your lips this time.
Asking Americans to turn in other Americans for health care ‘hate crimes’, Duros?
C’mon now.
You are delusional, sir. Are you kidding with this shit? Bush’s admin collects data on their opponents ILLEGALLY and in violation of the Constitution and you’re having a hissy about somehting Cornyn THINKS might be happening?
You got balls, I’ll give you that.
It’s been proven because people like Babs Boxer says, they are too well dressed to be protesters? That’s your proof?
No, maybe it’s the idling buses with out-of-state plates idling in the parking lot.
[T]hey are too well dressed to be protesters?
If they’re Republican protesters, I highly doubt that.
key elements of Obama’s plan that people are in favor of, ie, getting something for free that someone else will pay for, economy be damned;
Are your parents still alive? Are they on Medicaid? Medicare?
Are you calling them freeloaders?
Damn that Dangling Tag Syndrome. I sure hope that’s covered in Obamacare. =)
Oh and Dennis?
It’s been proven because people like Babs Boxer says, they are too well dressed to be protesters? That’s your proof?
That’s my proof.
Duros, you’ve got to start going to other sources than OliverWillis.com for all of your current events readings.
Frome the White House blog website:
There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can’t keep track of all of them here at the White House, we’re asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to flag@whitehouse.gov.
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Except now that I’ve informed you of this latest thuggery action alert by the Obama police, you’ll probably start flagging me and my posts here.
“Barack, Barack. lookie here! This guy named Dennis just posted some fishy poll results from Quinnppiac University! He’s a poo-flinger, Barack. Go get him.”
If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to flag@whitehouse.gov.
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Except now that I’ve informed you of this latest thuggery action alert by the Obama police,
So that’s “thuggery”? I’m glad you cleared that up for us, Dennis. I’m sure you couldn’t even imagine the horrible things I thought the word meant.
Anyone else notice that when Dennis addresses August J Pollak, he calls him “Pollack?” Once he came right out and spelled it “Polack.”
Do you think he wants to remind us of the old 70s “Polack” jokes, or did he miss the fact that “Pollak” has no “c”?
Which do you think is more likely?
You used to be a little better than this, Dennis. Now you just parrot dumb buzzwords and buzzphrases, like “Chicago thugs” and the like, and Bush style nicknames like “Pollack.”
I think you’re getting more unhinged as this administration goes on and your party becomes more and more of a joke.
Obama must read the comments here:
Obama: ‘Left-wing groups’ should back off.
He calls off the dogs. “Nutroots, back to your regularly scheduled programming. Please remain on stand-by alert TFN”. That is all.”
That article’s a little more than a month old, Den’. Got anything new for us?
As Quaker said, THAT’S your thuggery? What a baby. Yes, I saw that yesterday. BFD.
Good to see your are such a loyal puppet, though, Dennis.
Perhaps you should try some other sources yourself for news, eh?
To Dennis, thuggery = “I’m telling!”
AH Dennis, you must be so jealous of real men…
Anyone have any thoughts on David Horowitz, Ann Coulter, or Minutemen spokesmen being shouted down on college campuses?
……..the silence is deafening….
To Dennis, thuggery = “I’m telling!”
Listen to you, Mr. “I’m not reading any of your posts anymore, so there.”
Good to see your are such a loyal puppet, though, Dennis.
That’s good, Duros. Getting all up in mah face. Barack would be proud of you.
You really do think he reads the comments here and you’re just showin’ off for him, aren’t you?
Anyone have any thoughts on David Horowitz, Ann Coulter, or Minutemen spokesmen being shouted down on college campuses?
……..the silence is deafening….
Do any conservatives have anything other than false equivalence to offer on what’s happening this week?
How about Steve Benen telling you folks not to believe the President on that?
DOES OBAMA WANT ‘LEFT-WING GROUPS’ TO BACK OFF?
It’s dated today. I hope that’s current enough for you, Quibbie.
How about Steve Benen telling you folks not to believe the President on that?
First you link to an article that says Obama wants lefties to ease up. Then you link to one that says no, he doesn’t mean it. What exactly is your point?
You asked for something more current; that the first one was a month old. I don’t think it is, though.
You might be right about the Politico article, Dennis. The article looks new but the story is old news.
Anyone have any thoughts on David Horowitz, Ann Coulter, or Minutemen spokesmen being shouted down on college campuses?
Nope.
Listen to you, Mr. “I’m not reading any of your posts anymore, so there.”
Not what I said.
for the third time.
That’s good, Duros. Getting all up in mah face. Barack would be proud of you.
You really do think he reads the comments here and you’re just showin’ off for him, aren’t you?
What are you TALking about?
Is that some flashback from before the campaign, Denny?
Cornyn said he could sympathize with judge killers. Talk about thuggery.
Ollie makes a good point. Denny, rebuttal?
With all due respect, I beg to differ on the point being a good one, but the obvious rebuttal is that Cornyn is not the f’ing president, is he, Duros?
That was too obvious, now I’m paranoid. Like you guys are expecting that answer and you have the perfect zinger come-back for the first time in your lives.
Ok, go ahead, hit me with your best shot.
I thought you weren’t reading my stuff anymore, but yes. Don’t you remember Obama telling all you guys to get in our faces? I think it was posted here by a few of us then, so you don’t have the excuse of having only gotten your political info here and didn’t see it if it was posted on another political website.
but the obvious rebuttal is that Cornyn is not the f’ing president,
Ah, right. The threshhold for “thuggery” is entirely different for U.S. Senators. We forgot.
but the obvious rebuttal is that Cornyn is not the f’ing president, is he, Duros?
Suddenly, equivalence doesn’t cut it, huh?
I thought you weren’t reading my stuff anymore,
Now you’re just being a dick.
I think it was posted here by a few of us then,
And you misunderstood it then, too. Back then, you saw it as a call to violence by the “angry black dude with the deep-seated hatred of white people. AAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!”
One dude is a senator from a state where people talk like that every day. The other is the leader of the free world.
Yeah, I’m thinking the threshold is a bit different, Quibbie.
Yeah, I’m thinking the threshold is a bit different,
Excellent. A Republican senator voices “understanding” for people who threaten to kill judges? Not thuggery. The White House asks people to tell them about bogus rumors they’re hearing about proposed legislation? Definitely thuggery.
Recognition is the first step to recovery, Den’.
is this what you’re talking about, Quibbie?
Think Progress
I don’t know if there is a cause-and-effect connection but we have seen some recent episodes of courthouse violence in this country. Certainly nothing new, but we seem to have run through a spate of courthouse violence recently that’s been on the news and I wonder whether there may be some connection between the perception in some quarters on some occasions where judges are making political decisions yet are unaccountable to the public, that it builds up and builds up and builds up to the point where some people engage in — engage in violence.
If it is, there’s nothing in there at all said nor implied about his “understanding” people who threaten to kill judges. If it is what you were referring to, you should be ashamed of yourself, too. It’s a given you guys seldom play fair in these online spats, but of the three here who accepted this as a true statement, I’m surprised you’d be one of them. Maybe you just accepted Oliver’s stretching of this quote to complete and udder silliness, but still, you should know by now you shouldn’t do that.
Terrible, Quibbie. Hall of Shame terrible.
“Cornyn said he could sympathize with judge killers.”
That is an explosive charge. Maybe a responsible person would have some linkage.
Disconnect. Source cited was as weak as Coors lite with ice cubes.