Glenn Beck Begs His Audience Not To Kill Anyone, Commit Terrorism
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This is what the GOP and the right has come to. They’re so crazy, so nutty, one of their media leaders has to beg them not to kill anyone.
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Cue the wingnut trolls in 3…2…1 with, “What about Bill Ayers!”
Yeah, the 58 million people who voted for McCain and Palin are clearly craziesssss!
The crazy right wing party nominated that rabid, fire breathing conservative John McCain!
And that Bob Dole guy! Good God he was basically an anarchist! Same with George Bush! Whew!
Yes, Gabriel but that’s the GOP in nutshell. They WANT their tired old lame boring conservative near-corpses with a regressive ideology that was stale in 1950… and when they don’t get it, when the rest of the population wants to move forward out of the ’50s (the 1850s) they lose their minds.
Fear. Fear of reality, fear of the future, fear of change, fear of progress, fear of hearing someone with an accent other than theirs… and like any irrationally fearful creature, they are prone to lash out in senseless violence when their illusions and delusions are threatened.
“Fear. Fear of reality, fear of the future, fear of change, fear of progress, fear of hearing someone with an accent other than theirs… and like any irrationally fearful creature, they are prone to lash out in senseless violence when their illusions and delusions are threatened.”
That’s retarded. In a nutshell.
Somehow this nation has continue to progress decade after decade regardless of the political party in charge. And we’re out at our best when liberty is front and center.
There is no “regressive” party in the United States. The Middle East may interest you.
Goodness that Constitution is regressive!
McKee, Harry Truman said of Richard Nixon that if he ever read the Constitution he didn’t understand it. The same applies to you and the rest of the Republican Party.
Mike– Still suck on the silly Donkeys vs. Elephants thing eh?
The real battle is between liberty and statism, my friend. Not R’s and D’s.
I take it then, Gabriel, that you were strongly opposed to George Bush’s statist polices too (like the patriot act, torture, et. al)?
The real battle is between liberty and statism, my friend.
Shall we compare the US to one of the many places in the world with minimal or no regulation?
Should we do away with publicly funded highways?
I hope the relative minority but still dangerously large numbers of paranoiacs who think they can violently threaten liberals and Democrats in defense of whatever they fear soon learn that America is tired of their shit and just isn’t going to put up with their traitorous bullshit any longer.
TROLLS! unbelievable! the right is so WRONG
Ben– Of course. Opposed to plenty of Bush policies. NCLB, Medicare Part D, Patriot Act, etc…..There’s a ton of intellectual dishonesty in politics. Be about principles instead of the R or D…
The real battle is between liberty and statism, my friend.
No, it’s between reactionary assholes and normal people.
No, not really. It’s between people who want more government control and dependency, and those who don’t.
Where were these “so called” patriots, like Glenn Beck, who pretend to be so concerned for our nation, when bush ripped & burned it for 8 long years?
The hypocrites & traitors!
No it’s between people who would ask “am I my brother’s keeper?” and those to whom the question would never occur.
What he failed to mention is that some lady was arrested outside some National Guard base over the weekend with a car load of guns and ammo because Beck said (her words) that it was a FEMA camp.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/8/2/760870/-Glenn-Beck-Fan,-Highly-Armed,-Busted-For-Casing-National-Guard-Base,-Thinking-It-Was-A-FEMA-Camp-
No, it’s between people who think they know how best to live their lives, and spend their money, and those who think those choices should be made by corrupt government elites.
Yeah, let’s let our decisions be made by the incorruptable corporate elites instead. They certainly aren’t orchestrating the disruptions at town hall discussions over health care reform. They sure haven’t been pouring money into think tanks and advertising spreading half truths to outright lies. They sure as hell would never squander billions of taxpayer dollars into massive boondoggles and outright frauds.
I can’t wait for the mighty surge of teabaggers to push those corrupt politicians into the sea to start the neo-feudal era, where men will be men, women will be toys and the poor will be conveniently and cheaply forgotten.
Well, Glenn Beck, you make your bed and you lie in it. That’s the long and the short of it — you opened this can of worms, you have yourself to blame for having to “beg” your own audience NOT to commit violence.
and those who think those choices should be made by corrupt government elites
Or, in the last 8 years, the combo of the corrupt government elites and the corrupt corporate elites.
Sorry, Gabe, but the libertarian scum like you who would run over a child in the street in pursuit of another quarter per cent off your income tax can go straight to hell.
Conservatives don’t really believe in democracy. They pretend that they are trying to save democracy but they would prefer a shell democracy with a strong man, like a right wing Putin. Their latest gambit is to boycott those with whom they disagree.
Propertarians just don’t have the guts to be real libertarians.
“Yeah, let’s let our decisions be made by the incorruptable corporate elites instead.”
Never said that. In a free market capitalist society there is going to be corruption. It’s important to punish that corruption. What you can’t have is government ENCOURAGING that corruption like what happened in the housing/mortgage crisis.
Still doesn’t change the fact that capitalism has provided for the most prosperous nation in the history of mankind.
If you want your health and well being, your economic liberty put into the hands of corrupt statists who are only interested in being reelected and creating more dependency..then that’s your deal. I’ll be fighting you every step of the way to make sure we preserve America as the land of liberty, and so we do not become the land of European style socialism.
“Sorry, Gabe, but the libertarian scum like you who would run over a child in the street in pursuit of another quarter per cent off your income tax can go straight to hell.”
Well an absurd statement. We have charity in this country no? Where private individuals can make contributions to causes that they personally find worthy?
Much better than the government forcing you to fund things you have no use for.
So…
How come it wasn’t “crazy” & “Nutty” when Dr. Martin Luther King said it?
“Violence is the easy way out, but also a sure path to discrediting everything you stand for.”
Oliver you are a tool.
“Somehow this nation has continue to progress decade after decade regardless of the political party in charge. And we’re out at our best when liberty is front and center.”
Really? Science and technology have progressed but they are largely apolitical.
Politically we have backslid in many areas. Civil rights have been whittled away. We now torture. We now have more police powers. A woman’s right to choose her own reproductive fate is in serious jeopardy. There STILL is no ERA. Drug laws and sentencing got harsher. We now have federal funding for “faith-based initiatives.”
Building prisons left and right. We’ve given up on the idea of crime management and rehabilitation and have embraced plain revenge.
Sex education has been rolled back in many areas in favor of “abstinence-only.” The decline in the numbers of teen STDs and pregnancy has reversed in many areas.
We’ve pretty much abandoned public schooling.
We’ve abandoned all the labor laws that brought us the middle class in the 20th century – child labor laws, collective bargaining, workplace safety, etc… by union-busting and by shipping the factories overseas to places where political prisoners now make our happy meal toys.
We’ve rolled back environmental protections.
We’ve pretty much given up on enforcing anti-trust. The SEC is a joke and provides no oversight.
There are continual moves to disenfranchise voters, some of them successful.
We reinstated the death penalty.
The conservative supremes have whittled away at Miranda rights, etc.
This country has undertaken a HUGE rightward shift in the last 30-plus years, and we are far worse off for it.
“Oliver you are a tool.”
Give the lefties a break. They have to have something to complain about. They’ve inevitably point to a few incidents involving politically motivated violence, all the while ignoring the thousands of murders that occur in big, democratically controlled cities with tough gun laws throughout the country every single year.
Jafa has a very active imagination.
Based on the violence black Americans were facing at that time, you don’t think it might have been important to make a plea that they not retaliate, and risk the Civil Rights movement’s long term goals? What violence or oppression are wingnuts facing right now?
You sir, are the tool.
How come it wasn’t “crazy” & “Nutty” when Dr. Martin Luther King said it?
Because Dr. Martin Luther King never publicly fantasized about murdering another human being like Glenn Beck did on his radio show a few years ago with regards to Michael Moore (I don’t know how do the “link thing,” but you can Google it, Beck did indeed do this), something that Beck has never apologized for, by the way.
I guess it sounds a lot less crazy and nutty when your rhetoric up to that point had been to encourage non-violent protest, like Rev. King. When you’re on record that you would like to strangle Michael Moore personally, and clamored for revolutions like Glenn B…. yeah, it sounds like he’s trying to toss some water on the gas fire he helped start.
AW! Rotter totally types faster, the cheater!
Suicidal, are you THAT dumb?
It wasn’t crazy and nutty that Beck said people shouldnt be violent. It wasn’t crazy and nutty when King said it.
What is crazy and nutty is the people he Beck TALKING to…
Dr. King was talking to people who had been raped, murdered, enslaved and denied their basic human rights for centuries, and who were at that very time fighting apartheid. A violent reaction to that oppression would be entirely understandable, though counterproductive.
In contrast, Beck was counseling his minions, primarily middle-aged white males, to not freak out into a violent rage simply because just ONCE ion the history of this country they didn’t have one of their own in power.
Rudy for the win.
“simply because just ONCE ion the history of this country they didn’t have one of their own in power.”
That’s just stupid. Certainly it couldn’t be the fact that Barack Obama is the purest statist we’ve had in this country in decades. Perhaps as far back as LBJ. Virtually every “solution” he propses involves government in some form or fashion.
On his show, Keith Olbermann ought to show this little sermonette by Beck, and THEN play the latter’s little murder fantasy regarding Michael Moore. It’s what his “Worst Person in the World” segment was made for.
He’s the bloody President, McKee! He can’t propose any action without involving the government, because that’s what he has to work with. It’s like complaining that Tim Bradley can’t win boxing matches without punching people. What are his options?
…capitalism has provided for the most prosperous nation in the history of mankind.
you mean capitalism tempered by judicious regulation and governmental oversight. Unfettered capitalism leads to sweatshops, child labor, an unhealthy income gap and a violent boom-and-crash cycle. In the modern world no nation has achieved lasting prosperity on such a foundation.
We have charity in this country no? Where private individuals can make contributions to causes that they personally find worthy?
Absolutely. They can contribute a million dollars to their favorite televangelist for the construction of a 900-foot concrete Jesus and deduct it from their taxes.
And I want to answer another point McKee made, while I’m on a roll – I don’t get the urge to comment often, but I dunno – Beck pisses me off.
This whole ‘government encouraging corruption’ is putting the cart before the horse. It’s the business community that convinces bought and paid for legislatures to pass bad laws, removes regulation that protect the public, weakens enforcement agencies to protect their asses, and comes crying to the taxpayers for their handout when the system goes bust.
You hate the ‘state’, but what are you replacing it with? The free-market is not accountable to the people. I don’t get to choose who runs GE, or Fox, and even if I bought stock this would still be true. Without a body of regulations, and a state to demand compliance, they will not be working in the people’s best interests. That has been shown and proven time and time again; it’s as old as the existence of money. You’re just as much a ‘statist’ as I am – yours just comes without a vote.
The GOP is doomed.
What is crazy and nutty is the people he Beck TALKING to…
And that he feels he HAS to say this to cover his ass.
Virtually every “solution” he proposes involves government in some form or fashion.
Congratulations, sparky. Figure that out by yourself, did you? Who’d a thought the head of the government would involve government to solve the nations problems.
“You’re just as much a ’statist’ as I am – yours just comes without a vote.”
No.
The Republican party spent 8 years retarding the utility of government, chopping it off at the knees every chance it got. In exchange we got economic chaos, torture committed in our name, a federal government incapable of disaster response 101 and thousands of people dead.
So pardon us if we think the government ought to go back to its traditional American role of not fucking up.
We had this argument in November, and the people in fairy tale magic invisible hand land lost.
“This whole ‘government encouraging corruption’ is putting the cart before the horse. It’s the business community that convinces bought and paid for legislatures to pass bad laws, removes regulation that protect the public, weakens enforcement agencies to protect their asses, and comes crying to the taxpayers for their handout when the system goes bust.”
Someone needs to read more.
Go pick up Thomas Sowell’s “Housing Boom and Bust”. Learn. Report back with your findings.
“Virtually every “solution” he proposes involves government in some form or fashion.”
Just answer me this one question – give me one example of any thing Mr Bush did that didn’t involve government, in “some form or fashion,” as you put it Gab.
Go pick up Thomas Sowell’s “Housing Boom and Bust”. Learn. Report back with your findings.
I did, actually. Here’s my report.
I agree with Prof. Delong
The crazy right wing party nominated that rabid, fire breathing conservative John McCain!
Gabriel, Glenn Beck believes, he feels it deep in his heart, that health care will destroy America as we know it. Destroy it completely.
Despite this, however, he quite literally begs his audience not to kill people and for them to turn in anyone they suspect of plotting to kill people in order to defeat health care reform.
The world in which he lives and in which his loyal audience lives, is insane.
Can anyone crack Beck’s show email address? Scary.
JafafaHots,
Don’t insert race as the reason, only the truly ignorant even see race as a factor.
Should the cause really matter? I think any nonviolent approach to solutions should be admired.
I voted for Obama, I like him personally. I don’t like his policies.
I was not the one who bought a house I could not afford, and neither did a lot of others. Yet we are now on the hook because of their bad decisions. Alot of us have been screaming since Bush “let them fail” its the American way, you run your business into the ground you go out of business. Look at GM & Chrysler we spent billions and for what? They still filed bankruptcy. The only bailouts I can even condone since 9/11 was the airlines. The Stimulus, where are all of the jobs? We would have been better off just giving it directly to the public.
Whether Republican or Democrat our government is under the illusion that they can fix everything when in reality they are just making things worse.
Oliver, since we are returning to our role of “not fucking up” and while you are on that high horse.
Why don’t your write up an article about Pelosi’s censorship of Republican members mail to constituents.
Or their refusal to allow Republican amendments on the house floor.
Or the fact that Congress ignored Bush’s warnings of Freddie & Fannie. for 8 years
And don’tgive me the last 8 years bullshiat spiel, its getting old.
Or are you that blinded with Republican hate you cant see the fucking up your own party is doing
Like the emphasis on “burning gaze…”
It’s not hate to recognize that the GOP is fucking incompetent and everything it touches, government-wise, turns to shit.
I mean, it’s your central platform — government is bad, bad, bad. No wonder you guys suck at it.
“Whether Republican or Democrat our government is under the illusion that they can fix everything when in reality they are just making things worse.”
This. You’re a smart guy.
Big government NEVER WORKS in America. The last 60′s and the 70′s were largely a disaster because of it, and now we’re headed back in that direction.
“Big government NEVER WORKS in America.”
Like when we won World War II?
Christ you people are dumb.
Wanna know what a real decade-long disaster was? The noughts under Bush and six years of GOP Congressional control. Obama is trying to dig us out of this GOP hole, thank God. Please take responsibility for your own “small government” clushterfucks.
“Big government NEVER WORKS in America. The last 60’s and the 70’s were largely a disaster because of it, and now we’re headed back in that direction… but please, please, how ever much you may want to, no matter how prepared you crazy motherfuckers might be to actually do it, don’t kill anybody or blow anything up.”
There. Now you’re covered just like Beck, Gabriel.
McKee, are you quoting Sowell as a credible source? Uncle Tom Sowell?!
Geez, you’re even more fucked in the head than we thought…
By the way, all of you people shouting “statism” and against “teh gubmit”, you are not by default correct, you don’t scare anyone, and most of us are sick and tired of your bullshit.
‘No, it’s between people who think they know how best to live their lives, and spend their money, and those who think those choices should be made by corrupt government elites.’
Every single one of your posts is so full of distortions, lies and hypocrisies that it’s clear you should be the next GOP candidate for President.
You wouldn’t even have to take the Palinesque refresher course on why black is white and up is down.
You’re already there.
‘What you can’t have is government ENCOURAGING that corruption like what happened in the housing/mortgage crisis. ‘
And under whose ‘leadership’ did that occur?
‘Much better than the government forcing you to fund things you have no use for.’
Like what? A war in Iraq?
Good God I feel sorry for you people. Crazy as hell.
Yeah, the 63 million people who voted for McCain and Palin are clearly craziesssss!
The crazy left wing party nominated that rabid, fire breathing liberal Barack Obama!
Of course, Jon Stewart and Keith Olberman aren’t the ones having to go on air and beg their listeners not to commit acts of terrorism. So… we still have that going for us.
We’ll be okay, concern troll Mckee.
McKee appears to me to be about 20 years old, free of experience in business or in life and bound to fantasies about how government and a free market operate. The good thing is that often little boys often grow up. The ones who don’t become BECK.
“Big government NEVER WORKS in America. The last 60’s and the 70’s were largely a disaster because of it, and now we’re headed back in that direction”
You mean the 60′s and 70′s where America beat the soviets to the moon, which are considered a high water mark for America’s music industry, when the Jim Crow laws were finally abolished and when ARPANET heralded the start of the internet?
Those sixties which were “largely a disaster” braindeath?
Oh no – they got to Glenn Beck!!
I just knew Murdoch had sold out to the Librofascists!
Much better than the government forcing you to fund things you have no use for.
My house isn’t on fire now, so why should I pay for public safety.
Gabriel: I mean this with all sincerity. Fuck you.
Suicida|
Elections have consequences. Suck it up and stop crying like a little bitch.
Thank you.
Go pick up Thomas Sowell’s “Housing Boom and Bust”. Learn. Report back with your findings.
Not even if I found it in the street. Not on a fucking bet.
Elections have consequences. Suck it up and stop crying like a little bitch.
That goes double for you, Beck.
Listening to the video, it really sounds to me like he’s threatening members of Congress.
“Virtually every “solution” he proposes involves government in some form or fashion.”
Just answer me this one question – give me one example of any thing Mr Bush did that didn’t involve government, in “some form or fashion,” as you put it Gab.
Hey Gabriel, I’m guessing you don’t have an answer. This is a chance for you to really think about what you believe. Are you up to it?
Listening to the video, it really sounds to me like he’s threatening members of Congress.
Yeah, me too.
I’d like to see data on the number of domestic killings perpetrated by right-wing fanatics vs. the number of killings done by left-wing fanatics. There’s already some data out there, but not enough. Tim McVeigh, the killer at the UU church, the abortion-doctor killer.
Problem with right-wingers is that they’ve lost any set of values beyond “how dare you regulate profit!”. The only reason our overly expensive health-care system “works” is because the insurance industry, plus tax law, hides the cost of medical care from the middle class. Oh, but THAT’S okay, cuz it’s not the government screwing us all … it’s that can-do-nothing-wrong Private Industry (all genuflect).
Let’s take a little trip down memory lane…
From the May 17 broadcast of The Glenn Beck Program:
BECK: Hang on, let me just tell you what I’m thinking. I’m thinking about killing Michael Moore, and I’m wondering if I could kill him myself, or if I would need to hire somebody to do it. No, I think I could. I think he could be looking me in the eye, you know, and I could just be choking the life out — is this wrong? I stopped wearing my What Would Jesus — band — Do, and I’ve lost all sense of right and wrong now. I used to be able to say, “Yeah, I’d kill Michael Moore,” and then I’d see the little band: What Would Jesus Do? And then I’d realize, “Oh, you wouldn’t kill Michael Moore. Or at least you wouldn’t choke him to death.” And you know, well, I’m not sure.