Birthers Invent Time Machine
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Somehow the birthers got ahold of documents from the “Republic of Kenya” before such a nation ever existed. To tell the truth, I never have seen Orly Taitz and Doc Brown in the same place at the same time…
(Daily Kos rips apart this stupidity here, but frankly its better to have these people chasing their tails than anything useful.)
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It’s an obvious fake, I see at least three form inconsistencies. Obama’s real BC was in the missile that hit the Pentagon, lols.
Thought processes of today’s liberal bloggers:
George Bush……old news. That well is dry.
Rush Limbaugh….old news
Right wing extremists….played that card too much, backfired.
Sarah Palin…..private citizen, old news. Oh yeah, she and Todd getting divorced. Oh wait, no they’re not. Whew, almost went with that, glad I waited.
Henry Gates…… Lost that one; can’t play that card .
Wall Street bonuses…..don’t care anymore.
Conservative Dems…….meh, makes us look bad too.
Barack Obama is black…..always got that one, got boring a long time ago, but need something juicier.
What to do……what to do……..
Birther story! Someone no one’s ever heard of. Orly Taitz???? Who cares, let’s roll with that one and see how far we can take it. Woo hoo, it has legs, Chris Matthews is still talking about it.
Gosh, if only we hired all these dedicated birth certificate inspectors back in 2002 to investigate reports about yellowcake.
Keep talking about them and keep linking them to what’s left of the thugs.
It appears that the moment we count the birthers out, they come about again with some new, more improved foolishness. I fail to see what they are trying to accomplish other than to continue making themselves look like complete and utter fools.
Charles Johnson at Little Green Footballs has uncovered the REAL secret. It turns out that Obama WAS born within the United States, but not in Hawaii — but that birth certificate does show that Obama is NOT legally qualified to be president:
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/34348_The_True_Nirth_Certifikit_At_Last
The only downside is, if this works, we get President Biden…
J.
If nutjobs want people to stop making fun of them for behaving like nutjobs, they may want to, you know, stop behaving like nutjobs.
Where’s Lucy Ramirez? I bet *SHE* has the real birth certificate?
Ah, I see Dennis has gotten the memo and is running with the “the Birfer movement is all the LIBERALS’ fault!”
Not that it matters, but if Dennis wants to go with “No one ever heard of Orly Taitz until the liberal media made a stink about her.” I will only point out:
Ward Churchill.
Most of the right — the responsible, leader-types — are all mocking the “Nirthers.”
It’s reminiscent of the 9/11 Troothers, with their “LIHOP/MIHOP” arguments and discussions — but on a far less obscene footing.
Nice to see dipshittery is pretty much bipartisan…
J.
Nice to see dipshittery is pretty much bipartisan…
Not really. And treason is still mostly a conservative position.
Most of the right — the responsible, leader-types — are all mocking the “Nirthers.”
I guess that’s why less than half of the republicans think Obama is a US Citizen..
Yes, there are lunatics in every party, but there’s only one party where the lunatics are in charge of the asylum.
but that birth certificate does show that Obama is NOT legally qualified to be president…
I call RACISM against Martian-Americans!
True enough, Mike. Conservatives are more likely to denounce treason than liberals.
And that’s a shame, because it dilutes the whole concept. Calling people like John Kerry or Barack Obama “traitors” weakens the term, and when real treason comes up — like the American Taliban members — we don’t have the collective national will to execute them as they so richly deserve.
Sigh…
J.
Conservatives are more likely to denounce treason than liberals.
Care to support that insult with evidence, or is that just a mantra?
Kenya gained its independence in 1963, and declared itself a republic in 1964. It’s not unreasonable to think that some government agencies would be using the soon-to-be country name documents.
That does nothing to change the fact that every thing else that is wrong with the form is wrong, however I’ve spent enough time dealing with Truthers to know that you need to know their arguments, and what their basis in reality is.
And that’s a shame, because it dilutes the whole concept. Calling people like John Kerry or Barack Obama “traitors” weakens the term, and when real treason comes up — like the American Taliban members — we don’t have the collective national will to execute them as they so richly deserve.
Jay, I think you meant to say…
Conservatives are more likely to throw around baseless charges of treason than liberals.
Wilbur, that’s actually somewhat fair. I meant “toss around charges of treason,” with the implication that a good chunk of them are overhyped.
August, in that article, I quoted the law as it stands, then I quoted Howard Dean declaring that he was breaking said law. Cheerfully and deliberately, for that matter.
I never used the term “treason” in that article. I did not do so because I did not see it as “treason” — Constitutionally defined as “reason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.”
In Kerry’s case, the facts are indisputable: compare his own recollections of his adventures in Paris with the dates of his military service. He was a commissioned officer in the United States Navy (Reserve) when he met with representatives of the North Vietnamese government and military without authorization. That is a direct violation of the UCMJ, by which he was bound to obey — and certainly flirted with the Constitutional definition of “treason.”
Thanks for reminding me of that, August… it’d slipped my mind what a swine Kerry is.
J.
Mmm-hmmm.
…it’d slipped my mind what a swine Kerry is.
Meanwhile, you provide us with constant reminders of what a low-class character-assassinating swine you are.
Yes, more birfer madness to start the week.
That’s right, Wilbur. Stating facts about someone’s past conduct is “character assassination.”
I am reminded of that notorious character-assassinating Republican, Harry Truman, who said “I just tell the truth, and to them it seems like hell.”
J.
Christopher Lloyd would be impressed
He was a commissioned officer in the United States Navy (Reserve) when he met with representatives of the North Vietnamese government and military without authorization. That is a direct violation of the UCMJ,
Help me out here, Mr. Tea. Having never been in the military, I don’t know very much about the UCMJ. What section do you believe Mr. Kerry “directly violated”?
Thought processes of today’s liberal bloggers:
George Bush……old news. That well is dry.
Rush Limbaugh….old news
Right wing extremists….played that card too much, backfired.
Sarah Palin…..private citizen, old news.
You can’t have it both ways, Denny. We can’t be obsessed with Rush and Cut & Run Sarah and think they are old news at the same time.
You can’t have it both ways, Denny.
Oh yes he can. Dennis’ whole modus operandi consists of having it both ways. He just slings shit to see what sticks, and when it doesn’t stick he picks up and slings it again.
What section do you believe Mr. Kerry “directly violated”?
Jay is talking about the flagrant violation of the UCMJ that Kerry openly admitted to in front of the US Senate thirty eight years ago. Amazingly, nobody thought it was such a flagrant violation of the UCMJ until Kerry ran for president five years ago.
Watta douchebag.
Jay Tea: Conservatives are more likely to denounce treason than liberals.
Yes. I remember all those crowds of conservatives demonstrating and conservative bloggers writing for the investigation of Cheney for outing a CIA officer.
Ah, the good old days of 2003 when wingnuts everywhere threw around the ‘treason’ charge at anyone who dared to question George Bush and his infinite wisdom of invading a country that had nothing to do with 9/11.
Disagree with the war? You’re a traitor!
Speak your mind? You’re helping Al-Qaeda!
Raise a few questions? Fifth columnist!
Remember, Fox News said they’d rather be footsoliders for Bush than they would for Al Q!
August, thanks for one of the most amusing slapdowns in recent memory. Jay Tea spun so quickly he might need to be renamed “Tea Cup”.
Burn.
when it doesn’t stick he picks up and slings it again.
Maybe if ya lick it first it’ll stick better.
Kerry said he listened to Nixon on the radio denying Americans were in Cambodia when Kerry himself was ferrying a CIA agent into Cambodia on Christmas eve, when Johnson was president.
Lemme see if I got this straight: Al gore was the basis of Love Story and John Kerry was the basis for Apocalypse Now?
To be fair, Apocalypse Now did not feature a magic hat.
In my opinion the Republican Party has been taken over the most extreme religious right (people who love to push their beliefs on others while trying to take away their rights) and that’s who they need to focus on if they real want to win. Good Luck, because as they said in WACO, “We Ain’t Coming Out”.
In the same vein, to all the birthers in La, La Land, it is on you to prove to all of us that your assertion is true, if there are people who were there and support your position then show us the video (everyone has a price), either put up or frankly shut-up. I heard Orly Taitz, is selling a tape (I think it’s called “Money, Lies and Video tape”). She is from Orange County, CA, now I know what the mean when they say “behind the Orange Curtain”, when they talk about Orange County, the captial of Conspiracy Theories. You know Obama has a passport, he travel abroad before he was a Senator, but I guess he fooled them too?
The job of being President is really starting to take it’s toll.
True enough, Mike. Conservatives are more likely to denounce treason than liberals.
I’d beg to differ.
The job of being President is really starting to take it’s toll.
Well, being President is tough. At least when you actually DO the job.
Yep, gotta admit that Obama doesn’t look quite as rested and relaxed as GWB did after six months in office.
FYI, I got some weird e-mails from a guy based on a comment I made here a few days ago mocking the GOP/birthers. Put him in my spam list, but I’m curious if anyone else got e-mail for Orrly Taitz or whatever her name is. Or one of her racist henchmen.
Well, being President is tough. At least when you actually DO the job.
Perhaps he needs more vacation days.
I got some weird e-mails from a guy based on a comment I made here a few days ago mocking the GOP/birthers.
Jealous.
FYI, I got some weird e-mails from a guy based on a comment I made here a few days ago mocking the GOP/birthers.
Damn! I didn’t!! I think it might be because ow.com no longer automatically posts the e-mail address of its commenters. Well just in case any birthers are listening:
Dear Birfers,
How does it feel to be the laughingstock of the universe?
Sincerely,
Wilbur
Wilbur1138@yahoo.com
Sorry about the delay; real life called.
Kerry isn’t the subject here, but here’s the section he violated:
UCMJ SECTION 904. ART. 104. – AIDING THE ENEMY
Any person who–
(1) aids, or attempts to aid, the enemy with arms, ammunition, supplies, money, or other things; or
(2) without proper authority, knowingly harbors or protects or gives intelligence to or communicates or corresponds with or holds any intercourse with the enemy, either directly or indirectly; shall suffer death or such other punishment as a court-martial or military commission may direct.
Kerry entered the Service on February 18, 1966.
Kerry was released from active duty and transferred to the Ready Reserve on January 3, 1970.
Under oath before the United States Congress, April 22, 1971:
“I have been to Paris,” Kerry said. “I have talked with both delegations at the peace talks, that is to say the Democratic Republic of Vietnam and the Provisional Revolutionary Government and of all eight of Madam Binh’s points . . . .”
Kerry was transferred to the Standby Reserve – Inactive on July 1, 1972.
Kerry’s honorable discharge is dated February 16, 1978.
Anyway, back to the topic at hand: I have no authority to offer such a deal, but if the conservatives “own” the “Nirthers,” will you folks accept the “9/11 Troothers” and the “Trig Palin birthers?”
Seems like a fair deal to me…
J.
Whoa! Junior g-man Jay Tea sure has the goods on Lieutenant Kerry! How shrewd of the dastardly swine to confess openly to his wanton disregard for the UCMJ in the one place where it would never be noticed: in front of TV Cameras in the US Senate!! We can hardly blame those beleaguered military authorities at the time, not to mention the FBI and CIA agents that followed Kerry’s every move in Paris, for failing to perceive that Kerry had committed a capital offense!
Anyway, back to the topic at hand: I have no authority to offer such a deal, but if the conservatives “own” the “Nirthers,” will you folks accept the “9/11 Troothers” and the “Trig Palin birthers?”
You mean we take Andy Sullivan and a handful of wierdos, and you take Lou Dobbs, NRO, Orly Taitz, Alan Keyes and about half of what’s left of the Republican party membership?
Deal!
Not so fast, Wilbur. You also get Code Pink, Democratic Underground, the nutcase bloggers in Alaska who’ve been subcontracted by the Dems, Rosie O’Donnell, Roseanne, a healthy (well, unhealthy, mentally speaking) of the Kossacks, Michael Moore… and that’s just off the top of my head.
the list is hardly “a handful” of wierdos.
And Wilbur, there was no national stomach to push the issue with Kerry — but would you like to argue that he did NOT violate the UCMJ? And I was hardly the first to comment on it.
On second thought, please don’t. The whole subject is as irrelevant now as Kerry himself, and I should not have let myself get baited into it.
J.
Not so fast, Wilbur. You also get Code Pink, Democratic Underground, the nutcase bloggerzzzzzzzzzz..
Whatever, Jay, still doesn’t add up to several mainstream republican mouthpieces and fifty-eight percent of the membership of the republican party, does it?
…and I should not have let myself get baited into it.
yes, but how can you pass up a chance to showcase your partisan vindictiveness, eh?
Ah, Kos… one of the major disseminators of the “Sarah Palin isn’t Trig’s birth mother” bullshit. Such fine, outstanding folks.
And what’s with the preceding Pangaea question? WTF?
Whatever, Wilbur…
J.
Research 2000, which came up with that result, is an experienced independent polling operation. Look, Jay, if you want to pretend that there’s any question that the birfer movement is a much bigger deal in republican circles than the that other stuff was in dem. circles, be my guest. Just don’t imagine that you’re fooling anyone besides yourself.
Pangaea question? WTF?
I’m not sure what the point of that poll was, but I did find it interesting that once again that republicans were shown to be way more ignorant about a scientific issue than just about any other demographic.