I agree with RR. Cindy Sheehan was an anti Iraq war activist, and a weak counter to Joe the Plumber.

I say the majority of conservatives prefer simple shrillness to rational problem solving. Maybe that’s why I’ve had so many tell me that Justin Raimondo is a lefty?

To be fair, “knew in advance” has a rather broad spectrum of possibilities as to what it really and truly means. It could mean that he was given a note that said “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in US” and said “You’ve covered your ass now” or it could mean that he planned it all from his underground volcano lair deep in the jungles of Saskatchewan.

Also, a good number of people during Clinton’s administration (and probably for some time after) believed that Vince Foster was murdered by (or on the orders of) the Clintons, despite every investigation coming up “suicide.” So really, we can go back and forth with dueling conspiracy theories all day every day and twice around on Sundays, but it’s not going to do anything of consequence.

Which democratic campaign used Sheehan as a centerpiece, referring to her constantly as representing the common folk?

None? So that was the false equivalence so common to your arguments? Just checking. Thanks.

Because Joe just happened to have the good luck of making news in the middle of August and the McCain camp glommed on. By your measure, was Cindy Sheehan one of the Left’s leading pundits in 2006?

Another issue is the political makeup of the country was a lot different 30 years ago. In 1968, half of Long Island’s House contingenet were Republicans. It was only later, when the Empire State became overregulatory and conservatives decamped to the Sun Belt, that the area became solidly “blue”.

Actually, they’re well represented in Congress according to the video interviews.

But Jay Tea, it’s cute how you try and pretend your party isn’t run by fucking insane people.

Why was Joe the Plumber on the campaign tour and not Krauthammer? I’d place Kraut and Reynolds as moderate between serious thinker and shrill polemic. Did Hannity, Coulter or Beck spend significant developmental years in Real America? I understand Kristol, politics being a family thing and all, but he’s infamous for being wrong all the time.

I forgot Drudge. No college, but between DC and the Maryland coast there was stint with Jewish Social Services, which I guess you’ll count as college. The rest of the list you mentioned didn’t make my cutoff. They’re second tier.

I suppose in the black community, if a white guy made it nationwide as an African American activist it’d probably be cool. But if there was a bunch of white guys doing this who had little street cred, little education, and they were making serious bank, then I’d think there’d be some concern. But street cred appears to be irrelevant in today’s conservative world.

So they plant 2 birth announcements proclaiming that the baby in question was fathered by a black Kenyan. Got it.

P.S. Black.

* Everyone in and around NYC is labeled as being from there, even though simple deduction tells you that someone of Long Island heritage would have a MUCH different background than someone from, say, the Upper West Side, to say nothing of Harlem or the Bronx. That goes for most of the others, where the suburbs are a MUCH different political climate than in the inner city, no matter what “color” state you’re in.
* You claim Limbaugh was raised in disparate places (btw, where’s Sacramento?), yet all of the locations were post-college years. Others who did also moved around post-degree (Hannity, Coulter, Beck) are only credited with their birth cities.
*Joe the Plumber is a more influential conservative pundit than … Krauthammer? Levin? Thomas? Bennett? Ingram? Lopez? Reynolds? Drudge?

And yes, Bin Laden Determined To Strike.

What a complete load of horseshit. Why would Obama’s mother care about what a court in Kenya in 1961 might think? Do you or any other fucked-up conservative have any idea what Kenyan paternity law in 1961 said? Good God you people are fucking pathetic. Also, consider that air travel in 1961 wasn’t like it is today. It was rare and very expensive. It isn’t like the Obama’s could jump on a jet and fly from Kenya to Honolulu (10,000 miles) on a whim. Long distance phone service was also spotty at best. And you think they would “plant” TWO birth announcements just to really make the supposed fraud convincing? How utterly preposterous. You people are fools. There is a better chance of pink and yellow winged monkeys flying out of my ss than of this cock and bull story being true.

So I took the liberty to do a cursory check of where my list of conservative pundits came from. What are their developmental and cultural roots? (* denotes small town):

Sean Hannity (suburb of NYC)
Glenn Beck (Puget Sound, Washington)
Limbaugh (college town in Missouri, Pittsburgh, KC)
O’Reilly (NYC)
Coulter (suburban NYC)
*Palin
JTP (suburban Toledo)
Savage (NYC, San Francisco)
Malkin (Philadelphia, Atlantic City)
Kristol (NYC)

Only one appears to be from Red (real) America. Yet they are popular preachers for the “heartland values” crowd.

Why is this so?

Thanks a yahoo, my False Equivalence Meter just exploded.

“Rick Snachez Determined to Finish #1 in the Ratings”

–just as relevant.

Hannity, Beck, Limbaugh, O’Reilly, Coulter, Palin, Joe the Plumber, Savage, Malkin, Kristol… are among the most popular conservative voices. And I think they’re also nuts and/or assholes.

The more even tempered conservatives, and dare I say, the more ‘Christ-like’ conservatives, with education and intelligence, such as Rockwell, Paul, Sowell, Rice, Huckabee… are nobodies by comparison.

Why is this so?

Here ya go…

My point, then and recently – Barack’s mom and maternal grandparents had a strong incentive to create a paper trail documenting Obama as a US citizen back in 1961 and it had nothing to do with assuring his future viability as a Presidential candidate. Alll they needed to do was imagine a day when the white Ms. Dunham would be engaged in a custody fight in a Kenyan court contesting the fate of a black Kenyan baby sought by the black Kenyan father and his African family, and their course would have been clear.

“Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.”

Is anyone suggesting this is not a fact?

Yeah and so is PETA. Big deal. You work for Media Matters. Why not have somebody their run a piece as to why these people even get media coverage. Perhaps its because the left LOVES all the media coverage these kooks get. Easier to try and throw the blanket that these clowns represent a huge constituency.

Bush did have advance knowledge, but not in some inside job kind of way. He had info that he ignored,

Nonsense. You see, you’re engaging in your very own conspiracy crap. The 9/11 commission report says nothing of the sort. You should read it. The poll wasn’t poorly worded. Democrats were saying what they believed. Simple as that.

Parthenon, Democrats nominated a 9/11 conspiracy nut to run for Congress in Florida (Bob Bowman). Don’t forget too, Cynthia McKinney (who wasn’t run out of the party really until she and her father started spouting anti-Semitic rhetoric). Some 9/11 “truth” group actually got to speak about their craziness in front of the Arizona State Senate (they believed in the “controlled demolition” theory) after they held a hunger strike in front of John McCain’s office. Then there was the “Scholars for 9/11 Truth” and then “Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth” who were actually given a level of respect simply because they were “scholars” and “engineers.”

9/11 conspiracy lunacy – Royal Flush

Birthers = 2 pair