Comments on: Unforgivable Blackness… http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/22/unforgivable-blackness/ Like Kryptonite To Stupid Mon, 15 Mar 2010 11:07:37 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Frank DiSalle http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/22/unforgivable-blackness/#comment-165486 Frank DiSalle Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:13:06 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=15677#comment-165486 Indeed and wiz: I would be most charitable were I to say you misunderstood me. Neither of you knows what I was talking about, and it is quite possible you don't know what you're talking about. Wiz, there is a time to choose your battles. It is not about who takes guff from the man, who protests too much, and who gets back on the horse. It's about what's important, and what isn't. When detectives come to your house, and say, "Can we look around?", that's not the time to indignantly shout, "Not without a warrant, pig!" Indeed, you're just a dope. The saying, so <i>apropos</i> of your comment, is often attributed to Woodrow Wilson, but goes back much further [possibly Socrates]: "It is better to keep your mouth closed, and be thought a fool, then to open it, and remove all doubt." If it is racist to speak negatively of blacks, why is NOT racist to speak negatively of whites? My point was not that it is not hard to be black in America, nor was it that it was just as hard to be obese or old or poor. My point was that life is not always hard, relentless and unredeeming. How many people would love to live in a house paid for by an employer? How many teachers would love to teach at Harvard? How many scholars would love to have their work recognized around the world? Is the lesson of Professor Gates' life to be that he spent a few hours in jail? Indeed and wiz: I would be most charitable were I to say you misunderstood me.
Neither of you knows what I was talking about, and it is quite possible you don’t know what you’re talking about.
Wiz, there is a time to choose your battles. It is not about who takes guff from the man, who protests too much, and who gets back on the horse. It’s about what’s important, and what isn’t. When detectives come to your house, and say, “Can we look around?”, that’s not the time to indignantly shout, “Not without a warrant, pig!”
Indeed, you’re just a dope. The saying, so apropos of your comment, is often attributed to Woodrow Wilson, but goes back much further [possibly Socrates]: “It is better to keep your mouth closed, and be thought a fool, then to open it, and remove all doubt.”
If it is racist to speak negatively of blacks, why is NOT racist to speak negatively of whites?
My point was not that it is not hard to be black in America, nor was it that it was just as hard to be obese or old or poor. My point was that life is not always hard, relentless and unredeeming.
How many people would love to live in a house paid for by an employer? How many teachers would love to teach at Harvard? How many scholars would love to have their work recognized around the world?
Is the lesson of Professor Gates’ life to be that he spent a few hours in jail?

]]> By: wiz http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/22/unforgivable-blackness/#comment-165441 wiz Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:20:24 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=15677#comment-165441 To paraphrase: 'I was married to a Puerto Rican, ergo, I understand the minority plight and it's really no big deal, stop squawking and just take it, hell, most of you darkies cause your own problems anyway....don't call me racist, you know its true..' Racist? I doubt it; more like ignorantly naive and for the record, you could fill countless stadiums with the generations of blacks (and other minorities) who have (and still do) continue to get back on that fucking horse every day, despite the prevelance of inequities that still abound or the naysayers like yourself who thinks we doth protest too much... To paraphrase:
‘I was married to a Puerto Rican, ergo, I understand the minority plight and it’s really no big deal, stop squawking and just take it, hell, most of you darkies cause your own problems anyway….don’t call me racist, you know its true..’

Racist? I doubt it; more like ignorantly naive

and for the record, you could fill countless stadiums with the generations of blacks (and other minorities) who have (and still do) continue to get back on that fucking horse every day, despite the prevelance of inequities that still abound or the naysayers like yourself who thinks we doth protest too much…

]]> By: Indeed http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/22/unforgivable-blackness/#comment-165431 Indeed Thu, 23 Jul 2009 05:24:42 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=15677#comment-165431 <i>What should I have learned, J R? Tell me. I can’t wait.</i> How about to keep your virtual mouth shut. That would be a nice start. I believe it was Honest Abe who once observed, "It is far better to not make* a blog comment and be thought a racist wingnut douchebag, then to go ahead and post a really stupid and plainly racist comment and totally remove all doubt." *Ol' Abe loved to boldly split them infinitives What should I have learned, J R? Tell me. I can’t wait.

How about to keep your virtual mouth shut. That would be a nice start.

I believe it was Honest Abe who once observed, “It is far better to not make* a blog comment and be thought a racist wingnut douchebag, then to go ahead and post a really stupid and plainly racist comment and totally remove all doubt.”

*Ol’ Abe loved to boldly split them infinitives

]]> By: Frank DiSalle http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/22/unforgivable-blackness/#comment-165430 Frank DiSalle Thu, 23 Jul 2009 05:15:56 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=15677#comment-165430 J R ... There are no stories about white Harvard professors getting locked up for mouthing off to cops. And it's not white crime that is hurting the black community, or white teenage girls having illegitimate children that hurts the black community. Who do you think we're talking about here? What's the title of the thread? What should I have learned, J R? Tell me. I can't wait. J R … There are no stories about white Harvard professors getting locked up for mouthing off to cops.
And it’s not white crime that is hurting the black community, or white teenage girls having illegitimate children that hurts the black community.
Who do you think we’re talking about here?
What’s the title of the thread?

What should I have learned, J R? Tell me. I can’t wait.

]]> By: jrfunkenstein http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/22/unforgivable-blackness/#comment-165424 jrfunkenstein Thu, 23 Jul 2009 04:01:19 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=15677#comment-165424 'Do you think young black men will stop committing crimes soon? Do you see young black men stepping up to the responsibilities of fatherhood soon?' Dude, I've actually heard of young, ignorant White guys fathering kids and bailing on them. One or two has actually committed crimes. And not just Kevin Federline or Levi Johnston. Too bad you didn't learn anything from your own story about your ex; I hope your son did. ‘Do you think young black men will stop committing crimes soon? Do you see young black men stepping up to the responsibilities of fatherhood soon?’

Dude, I’ve actually heard of young, ignorant White guys fathering kids and bailing on them. One or two has actually committed crimes.

And not just Kevin Federline or Levi Johnston.

Too bad you didn’t learn anything from your own story about your ex; I hope your son did.

]]> By: Frank DiSalle http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/22/unforgivable-blackness/#comment-165394 Frank DiSalle Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:36:35 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=15677#comment-165394 I saw the movie with James Whitmore, Duros, and Watermelon Man with Godfrey Cambridge. Here's a story for you : My ex-wife is Puerto Rican, olive brown skin. My first son was very fair, blonde hair and all. When he was born, my wife was determined to move to a nearby wealthy "bedroom community" called Bronxville. I can't tell you how many times I came home to find her in tears. Why? Because she would take our son into town in the stroller, and when the locals would "ooh" and "aah" over him, eventually the conversation would turn to carrying him and delivering him. At that point, they would be astonished : "Ooooh! He's <i>YOURS?</i>" They had mistaken her for a nanny. She was mortified. My next son looked like her. Now the tune changed : "Oooooh! They're <i>BROTHERS?</i>"\ I don't need no damn books! If we continue to treat every suffering black person like a poster child for slavery, there will never be racial equality. The only hope under those circumstances is that there will be enough intermarriage for races to be indistinguishable. Do you think young black men will stop committing crimes soon? Do you see young black men stepping up to the responsibilities of fatherhood soon? There , I said it ! Now call me a racist, because I pointed out that the Emperor has no clothes. I saw the movie with James Whitmore, Duros, and Watermelon Man with Godfrey Cambridge.

Here’s a story for you : My ex-wife is Puerto Rican, olive brown skin. My first son was very fair, blonde hair and all. When he was born, my wife was determined to move to a nearby wealthy “bedroom community” called Bronxville. I can’t tell you how many times I came home to find her in tears. Why?
Because she would take our son into town in the stroller, and when the locals would “ooh” and “aah” over him, eventually the conversation would turn to carrying him and delivering him. At that point, they would be astonished : “Ooooh! He’s YOURS?”
They had mistaken her for a nanny. She was mortified. My next son looked like her. Now the tune changed : “Oooooh! They’re BROTHERS?“\

I don’t need no damn books!

If we continue to treat every suffering black person like a poster child for slavery, there will never be racial equality. The only hope under those circumstances is that there will be enough intermarriage for races to be indistinguishable. Do you think young black men will stop committing crimes soon? Do you see young black men stepping up to the responsibilities of fatherhood soon?
There , I said it ! Now call me a racist, because I pointed out that the Emperor has no clothes.

]]> By: Randy Brown http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/22/unforgivable-blackness/#comment-165389 Randy Brown Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:11:36 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=15677#comment-165389 <i>Have you ever read "Black Like Me," Frank?</i> Also check out the 1970 role-reversal movie, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watermelon_Man_(film)" rel="nofollow"><i>Watermelon Man,</i></a> directed by Melvin Van Peebles of "Sweet Sweetback" infamy. Have you ever read “Black Like Me,” Frank?

Also check out the 1970 role-reversal movie, Watermelon Man, directed by Melvin Van Peebles of “Sweet Sweetback” infamy.

]]> By: Quaker in a Basement http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/22/unforgivable-blackness/#comment-165362 Quaker in a Basement Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:34:13 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=15677#comment-165362 <em>‘When I’m opening the door of my own house, someone will ask me where the man of the house is, implying that I’m staff,’</em> Perfectly rational assumption, right 'wingers? Everyone knows that black folks all live in the slums. ‘When I’m opening the door of my own house, someone will ask me where the man of the house is, implying that I’m staff,’

Perfectly rational assumption, right ‘wingers? Everyone knows that black folks all live in the slums.

]]> By: Duros62 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/22/unforgivable-blackness/#comment-165341 Duros62 Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:46:25 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=15677#comment-165341 Have you ever read Black Like Me, Frank? Might be worth a re-read. That goes for a lot of you trolls here, too. Have you ever read Black Like Me, Frank? Might be worth a re-read.

That goes for a lot of you trolls here, too.

]]> By: Mike http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/22/unforgivable-blackness/#comment-165335 Mike Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:28:50 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=15677#comment-165335 <i>All right, all right… Enough already!</i> When you and your fellow Republicans stop aiding and abetting racists, you can say that. Until then, shut up and stop being such a complete scumbag. All right, all right… Enough already!

When you and your fellow Republicans stop aiding and abetting racists, you can say that. Until then, shut up and stop being such a complete scumbag.

]]> By: Frank DiSalle http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/22/unforgivable-blackness/#comment-165324 Frank DiSalle Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:07:04 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=15677#comment-165324 All right, all right... Enough already! It sucks being black. Got it. It sucks being poor; it sucks being old; it sucks being fat; it sucks having a heavy accent; it sucks looking unattractive; it sucks being handicapped; it sucks being chronically ill; it sucks being mentally ill; it sucks being an ex-convict; it sucks being a combat veteran; it sucks being gay; it sucks being transgendered; it sucks being smart, and not having a diploma. Now pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and get back on that horse! All right, all right… Enough already!

It sucks being black. Got it.

It sucks being poor; it sucks being old; it sucks being fat; it sucks having a heavy accent; it sucks looking unattractive; it sucks being handicapped; it sucks being chronically ill; it sucks being mentally ill; it sucks being an ex-convict; it sucks being a combat veteran; it sucks being gay; it sucks being transgendered; it sucks being smart, and not having a diploma.

Now pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and get back on that horse!

]]> By: Duros62 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/22/unforgivable-blackness/#comment-165278 Duros62 Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:22:02 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=15677#comment-165278 And ACORN, don't forget. And such as. And ACORN, don’t forget.

And such as.

]]> By: OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/22/unforgivable-blackness/#comment-165276 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:15:39 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=15677#comment-165276 <i>The President of the United States is a black man, but some things still need to change</i> Nooo but that's impossible! Everything DID change on Nov 4, 8:02 Pacific Time daggnabbut! That's why they also didn't have a Nazi march in Paris TX yesterday, either. Nope, nothing to see there, it's all the fault of those Black Radical Extremists like Henry Louis Gates, making elitist Harvard kids think anti-white thoughts! Those cargo shorts, polo shirts, and dorky penny loafers shall not hide you, Henry X!! The President of the United States is a black man, but some things still need to change

Nooo but that’s impossible!

Everything DID change on Nov 4, 8:02 Pacific Time daggnabbut! That’s why they also didn’t have a Nazi march in Paris TX yesterday, either. Nope, nothing to see there, it’s all the fault of those Black Radical Extremists like Henry Louis Gates, making elitist Harvard kids think anti-white thoughts!

Those cargo shorts, polo shirts, and dorky penny loafers shall not hide you, Henry X!!

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