Video: Former Canadian Health Minister Debunks Republican Lies On Health Care

8:47 pm EST July 20th, 2009 | News | 13 Comments

Leave it to Republicans to insult Canadians. I mean, those maple-syrup loving bastards are our closest pals! They’re practically Americans with funny accents.

Sometimes when you step back from this debate you wonder WTF we’re actually “debating”. The British, French, and Candian systems cover people when they need care. Ours doesn’t. We should do better. Why the heck is anyone arguing against this?

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13 Responses to “Video: Former Canadian Health Minister Debunks Republican Lies On Health Care”

  1. calling all toasters says:

    Anyone who doesn’t give a tongue bath to Rush’s pilonidal cyst on a daily basis isn’t American enough for the right wingers.

  2. Southern Quaker says:

    Fact-based reality is soooo 80s.

  3. I can’t wait for all the ‘America has the BEST health care system in the world, and we’re not SOCIALISTS!’ jackasses to come slithering over and proffer their extensive knowledge of the ‘travesty’ that is the Canadian health care system.

    How much you want to bet that at least 80% will suggest that the former minister looks and sounds like a ‘terra-ist,’ so obviously he can’t be credible.

    If or when the US finally pries itself from the claws of the for profit health insurance system that is bankrupting your economy, (among other needless costs) and denies huge volumes of its citizens the right to affordable health care, America can justifiably join the rest of the modern, industrialized world that recognizes the health of their populations as among their highest priorities for productive societies.

    It’s just that simple.

  4. Mark says:

    I’ve never really watched Rick Sanchez much. Is he always like this?

    “It’s payed out of the income tax.”
    “AHA!”

    Where the hell did he think it was payed from? Yeah, his incisive questions have uncovered yet another fact that has been common knowledge since 1961. At some point in time, CNN anchors are going to need to read more than Twitter.

  5. Adam Herman says:

    single payer health care is good at some things, like making sure you always have health care.

    However, the quality and availability tends to be less than what you get with a private insurance policy.

    Government health care is a floor. It’s what a decent society insures everyone has access to. There’s no reason to tell lies and make it out to be more than that.

    No one will be getting proton beam treatments for cancer, or herceptin for breast cancer, or that new wicked cool awesome procedure for checking your prostate that doesn’t involve getting fingers up your butt. Or anything else particularly expensive.

    However, if your leg is broke, they’ll fix it for you.

  6. durablend says:

    However, the quality and availability tends to be less than what you get with a private insurance policy.

    LOL

    Yeah cuz we all know private insurers are in business to give you anything and everything you want (no matter how expensive it is).

    You just keep on clinging to that “OH NOES THE RATIONING!!!!” thing. Yeah, that’s the ticket….

  7. Southern Quaker says:

    No one will be getting proton beam treatments for cancer, or herceptin for breast cancer, or that new wicked cool awesome procedure for checking your prostate that doesn’t involve getting fingers up your butt.

    Yes, because all those procedures are now available to the under- and uninsured here in the good old U.S. of A. We never ration health care, no siree, Bob!

  8. ‘However, the quality and availability tends to be less than what you get with a private insurance policy.’

    What are you basing that on? The quality of health care in Canada is excellent. I know, I live in Toronto and recently had to use it for a dislocated shoulder; was in and out of my neighborhood hospital in 3.5 hours after an initial exam in emergency that included X-Rays, after seeing an orthopedic specialist, after getting an IV of Demerol and having it reset.

    Cost? $0.

  9. Indeed says:

    However, the quality and availability tends to be less than what you get with a private insurance policy.

    The ceaseless, mindless, and shameless repetition of dumbed-down talking points is a wonder to behold.

  10. Duros62 says:

    single payer health care is good at some things, like making sure you always have health care.

    That’s kind of the point. Congratulations. You’ve just made a major breakthrough.

    However, the quality and availability tends to be less than what you get with a private insurance policy.

    Bullshit. My Blue Cross/ Blue Shield card ain’t gonna get me to see a doctor any faster.

    Just spoke to a friend of mine this morning. Said he called his doctor about pains shooting all up and down his left side. His head, his arm, his leg, just on one side. Thought it could be a mini-stroke or something. Bear in mind this guy has already had a major heart attack. Doctor couldn’t see him for six weeks. Finally gets in there and the doctor tells him he has a severely advanced case of Lyme Disease.

    Gee, you think seeing him sooner could have alleviated that a little bit? But this isn’t Canadia!

  11. Duros62 says:

    Government health care is a floor. It’s what a decent society insures everyone has access to. There’s no reason to tell lies and make it out to be more than that.
    ….
    However, if your leg is broke, they’ll fix it for you.

    That’s a start. What’s so wrong with that?
    You guys don’t want us to have that, but you can’t say why not.

  12. Duros62 says:

    I know, I live in Toronto and recently had to use it for a dislocated shoulder; was in and out of my neighborhood hospital in 3.5 hours after an initial exam in emergency that included X-Rays, after seeing an orthopedic specialist, after getting an IV of Demerol and having it reset.

    I’ll have what he’s having.

  13. Adam Herman says:

    Name the private insurance that makes you wait 16 weeks to see a specialist.

    Name the private insurance where you have to wait 2-3 years to get a primary care physician.

    Name the private insurance plan where you have to wait 6 months for a hip replacement.

    The person who had the dislocated shoulder made my point for me. Single payer is great for routine ouchies. If that person had needed an MRI, the wait would have been more like 3 months rather than 3 hours.

    I can see my doctor tomorrow morning. 17% of Canadians don’t even have a primary doctor. THey have to use clinics and emergency rooms. JUST like the American uninsured.