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AMA Supports House Health Care Bill

July 16th, 2009 Health Care 16 Comments

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Well, I think this is a welcome development. It’s time to make this thing happen finally. ASAP.

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16 Responses to “AMA Supports House Health Care Bill”

1. william says:

   July 16, 2009 at 4:06 pm

   “Instead of saving the federal government from fiscal catastrophe, the health reform measures being drafted by congressional Democrats would increase rather than reduce public spending on health care, potentially worsening an already bleak budget outlook, the director of the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office said this morning.”

   What part of “we are broke” don’t you guys understand?
2. Buzz Killington says:

   July 16, 2009 at 4:20 pm

   What are the odds that he’s actually read the bill? I hope so, since nobody in Congress will, but I’m doubtful.
3. jr says:

   July 16, 2009 at 4:51 pm

   “I’m a God. You’re not entitled to the same health care as I am”-Ben Nelson to voters
4. Wilbur says:

   July 16, 2009 at 6:02 pm

   What part of “we are broke” don’t you guys understand?

   What part of “our current health care system is making us broke” don’t you guys understand?
5. SaveFarris says:

   July 16, 2009 at 6:38 pm

   Jr, show me the clause that every member of the House, Senate, and Executive Branch will be required to use the public option and Republicans just might support it.
6. News Reference says:

   July 16, 2009 at 6:43 pm

   “What part of “we are broke” don’t you guys understand?”

   Republicans have been deliberately indebting US for almost 30 years.

   The Republican Debtor Party’s strategy was to leave US in a bad financial situation after Republicans spent US into debt through a combination of Republican’s increasing the size of government, Republican’s increasing the Federal outlays (how much the government spent), and Republican’s obscene tax policies serving Paris Hilton welfare aristocrats (during a time of war, no less).

   Currently the number of Americans who go bankrupt because of corporate-medical-industry profiteering is huge.

   “Medical bills tied to 60 percent of bankruptcies: Most families had health insurance, but still overwhelmed by health debt.” -Reuters

   And the body count for the current private corporate-medical-industry is huge as well.

   “18,000 deaths blamed on lack of insurance [a year].” “More than 18,000 adults in the USA die each year because they are uninsured and can’t get proper health care, researchers report in a landmark study released Tuesday.”

   There are 18,000 deaths a year in America from lack of health insurance.

   Those deaths compiled by the Institute of Medicine (IOM) were from a report released on May 21st, 2002. Those numbers have likely gone up considerably since then as the ranks of the uninsured have grown.
7. Quaker in a Basement says:

   July 16, 2009 at 7:02 pm

   show me the clause that every member of the House, Senate, and Executive Branch will be required to use the public option and Republicans just might support it.

   Well that makes no sense at all.

   That’s like saying: When every member of government eats only what someone on food stamps can afford, then I’ll support the program. When every member of government takes the bus instead of driving, I’ll support mass transit. When every member of government sets his house on fire, I’ll support funding for fire departments.

   The public option is intended to provide health insurance for those don’t have it now. It’s not going to take insurance away from anyone who already has it.
8. Jaim says:

   July 16, 2009 at 7:34 pm

   Shorter wing-nuts: Listen to us instead of real, actual doctors, because we have the same medical expertise as Sarah Palin and she’s like smart and stuff.
9. SaveFarris says:

   July 16, 2009 at 7:59 pm

   First of all, if the “public option” is so awesome in it’s cost savings and quality of care, politicians should be tripping over themselves trying to sign up.

   Secondly, you so sure you’ll be able to keep your old coverage for as long as you want? Tell that to the guy that wants to open a new business (or that expectant mom).

   Thirdly, your claim that the mist vocal of proponents shouldn’t be required to use the program is especially disengwnuous coming after 7 straight years of “CHICKENHAWK!!!”
10. News Reference says:

    July 16, 2009 at 8:27 pm

    Under the current corporate-medical-insurance industry 25 Million Americans Are ‘Underinsured’.

    That’s on top of the nearly 50 million uninsured Americans.

    And those that think they are covered are largely deluding themselves because their healthcare can be taken away by corporate bureaucrats and often is through what the corporate-medical-bureaucrats call “rescission”.

    Corporate rationing of healthcare has been going on for years, it’s how corporate-medical-industry executives loot the big bucks.
11. Jaim says:

    July 16, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    “Secondly, you so sure you’ll be able to keep your old coverage for as long as you want? Tell that to the guy that wants to open a new business (or that expectant mom).”

    How is this different from the way things are now? If you change employers, nine times out of ten you change coverage.

    Single payer would allow you to stick with your family doctor for as long as you want.
12. aartimus says:

    July 16, 2009 at 10:09 pm

    I’m a retired federal employee and have the same insurance that members of congress have. Out of the selection of plans that are offered, I choose Blue Cross Blue Shield standard option for my wife and me.

    Here’s what it costs:

    The 2009 government contribution for self and family health insurance is $763.88 per month, or $9,166.56 per year.

    Our contribution is $356.59 per month, or $4,279.08 per year.

    Total cost per year for the same insurance that members of congress have is $13,445.64. This is *still* more than most people can afford.

    In addition, we still contend with a swampland of different claim forms, deductibles, co-pays, and preferred/non-preferred providers that are an inherent part of the corporate health insurance industry. We still have claims that are denied, and it is impossible to tell whether our provider is treating us honestly and fairly.

    The only real solution is a single payer plan that covers everyone and is financed by a progressive tax. It works in other developed countries, and it can work here.
13. Indeed says:

    July 16, 2009 at 11:12 pm

    First of all, if the “public option” is so awesome in it’s cost savings and quality of care, politicians should be tripping over themselves trying to sign up.

    Well who’s opposed to the “public option”? I wonder if we should follow the money.

    If socialist hellhole medical care is so awful, why aren’t, say, Canadian politicians tripping over themselves to get rid of their program?
14. canadian bacon says:

    July 17, 2009 at 1:25 am

    “If socialist hellhole medical care is so awful, why aren’t, say, Canadian politicians tripping over themselves to get rid of their program?”

    Because they’ll lose elections. No politician would ever try to overtly undermine our health care system but they chip away at it incrementally and manufacture a “crisis in health care”. That’s why Doctor Day can go on his speaking tours in the USA, talking about how bad it is up here. I know the US insurance companies are chomping at the bit waiting to step in a “save” the Canadian health care system. Definitely follow the money, that where the stench is coming from.

    One more thing, it’s actually not a socialist system of health care; our family pays a $96.00/month premium for coverage and a recent ambulance trip to the hospital cost me $56.00. A little capitalism thrown into the mix.
15. Indeed says:

    July 17, 2009 at 1:37 am

    Because they’ll lose elections.

    Indeed.
16. Duros62 says:

    July 17, 2009 at 4:08 pm

    First of all, if the “public option” is so awesome in it’s cost savings and quality of care, politicians should be tripping over themselves trying to sign up.

    Why should they? They already get free health care for life.