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		<title>By: newsrackblog.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Good for a grin</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/15/what-we-really-see-gop-senators-question-sotomayor/#comment-164525</link>
		<dc:creator>newsrackblog.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Good for a grin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 17:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] What We Really See: GOP Senators Question Sotomayor (Oliver Willis) &#8230;Now, I’m a-looking here at your papers and such and I see where you sez, that you’re a wise latin-a. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] What We Really See: GOP Senators Question Sotomayor (Oliver Willis) &#8230;Now, I’m a-looking here at your papers and such and I see where you sez, that you’re a wise latin-a. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Weekend link dump for July 19 &#8211; Off the Kuff</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/15/what-we-really-see-gop-senators-question-sotomayor/#comment-164329</link>
		<dc:creator>Weekend link dump for July 19 &#8211; Off the Kuff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Boss Hogg lives! [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Captain Video</title>
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		<dc:creator>Captain Video</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 18:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This posting really captures the gist of what has been going on. The good ol buys are having a great time hazzling this uppity latina.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This posting really captures the gist of what has been going on. The good ol buys are having a great time hazzling this uppity latina.</p>
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		<title>By: Nezua</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nezua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hilarious. As are the Frothy Clueless in this thread. Goood shit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hilarious. As are the Frothy Clueless in this thread. Goood shit.</p>
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		<title>By: (D)Hillbilly</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/15/what-we-really-see-gop-senators-question-sotomayor/#comment-164089</link>
		<dc:creator>(D)Hillbilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 04:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This whole conversation is as hilarious as the satire preceding it.  The southern strategy still exists, and boy howdy, lemme tell you, it sure sucks being an oppressed white male, don&#039;t it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This whole conversation is as hilarious as the satire preceding it.  The southern strategy still exists, and boy howdy, lemme tell you, it sure sucks being an oppressed white male, don&#8217;t it!</p>
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		<title>By: ShadeTail</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/15/what-we-really-see-gop-senators-question-sotomayor/#comment-164065</link>
		<dc:creator>ShadeTail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 02:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;I guess I am one of those dumb racist republicans.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Apparently.  But as a tolerant (and seemingly more inteligent) liberal, I&#039;ll help you out.

&lt;em&gt;&quot;a. Why Sotomayor tried to bury the Ricci case.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Who, other than shrill right-wingers like you, says that she did?

&lt;em&gt;&quot;b. Why Ricci should be denied promotion.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Because the Civil Rights Act forced the city in question to proactively avoid being discriminatory, and since the test in question had apparently discriminatory results, they threw it out.  All of which is explained quite clearly in the ruling itself.  You *did* try reading it before asking this question, didn&#039;t you?  I mean, you didn&#039;t choose to remain ignorant, did you?

&lt;em&gt;&quot;c. Those of you who are white, who support affirmative action, why haven’t you specifically given up whatever ‘white privilege’ you have to a deserving minority?&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Because I can&#039;t.  My white privilege comes from people like you being racist in my favor, and as much as I would like to give up the favoritism from your kind, I can&#039;t.  All I can do is support giving minorities a fair chance in spite of you.

There, now you have answers to your questions.  Feel better?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;I guess I am one of those dumb racist republicans.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Apparently.  But as a tolerant (and seemingly more inteligent) liberal, I&#8217;ll help you out.</p>
<p><em>&#8220;a. Why Sotomayor tried to bury the Ricci case.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Who, other than shrill right-wingers like you, says that she did?</p>
<p><em>&#8220;b. Why Ricci should be denied promotion.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Because the Civil Rights Act forced the city in question to proactively avoid being discriminatory, and since the test in question had apparently discriminatory results, they threw it out.  All of which is explained quite clearly in the ruling itself.  You *did* try reading it before asking this question, didn&#8217;t you?  I mean, you didn&#8217;t choose to remain ignorant, did you?</p>
<p><em>&#8220;c. Those of you who are white, who support affirmative action, why haven’t you specifically given up whatever ‘white privilege’ you have to a deserving minority?&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Because I can&#8217;t.  My white privilege comes from people like you being racist in my favor, and as much as I would like to give up the favoritism from your kind, I can&#8217;t.  All I can do is support giving minorities a fair chance in spite of you.</p>
<p>There, now you have answers to your questions.  Feel better?</p>
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		<title>By: ThresherK</title>
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		<dc:creator>ThresherK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 00:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did Sessions leave out the part where Ricci thanked Alito and Scalia for their no-empathy-whatsoever ruling?

Or is it only appropriate to tie heritage into decisions when the heritage in question is still a target for discrimination?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did Sessions leave out the part where Ricci thanked Alito and Scalia for their no-empathy-whatsoever ruling?</p>
<p>Or is it only appropriate to tie heritage into decisions when the heritage in question is still a target for discrimination?</p>
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		<title>By: mdh</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/15/what-we-really-see-gop-senators-question-sotomayor/#comment-164021</link>
		<dc:creator>mdh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;When you can’t argue on the merits, this is what you resort to.&lt;/i&gt;

it sucks to get beat at your own game, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>When you can’t argue on the merits, this is what you resort to.</i></p>
<p>it sucks to get beat at your own game, no?</p>
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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/15/what-we-really-see-gop-senators-question-sotomayor/#comment-164006</link>
		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Independents are confused.&lt;/i&gt;

After this last election, I&#039;d say Independents need to be put down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Independents are confused.</i></p>
<p>After this last election, I&#8217;d say Independents need to be put down.</p>
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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/15/what-we-really-see-gop-senators-question-sotomayor/#comment-164005</link>
		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;You can claim that blacks support Democrats because they’ve been hoodwinked by “race hustlers”, but that’s an extremely racist claim. You’re saying that over 90% of black are stupid enough to fall for propaganda from demagogues like Al Sharpton?&lt;/i&gt;

And if that were even close to being true, we would be saying &quot;former President Jesse Jackson and Former President Al Sharpton&quot; now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>You can claim that blacks support Democrats because they’ve been hoodwinked by “race hustlers”, but that’s an extremely racist claim. You’re saying that over 90% of black are stupid enough to fall for propaganda from demagogues like Al Sharpton?</i></p>
<p>And if that were even close to being true, we would be saying &#8220;former President Jesse Jackson and Former President Al Sharpton&#8221; now.</p>
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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/15/what-we-really-see-gop-senators-question-sotomayor/#comment-164004</link>
		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;So who are the “bad apples”? Maybe you could at least cast some much-needed shame on them.&lt;/i&gt;

Republicans don&#039;t do shame, you ought&#039;a know &#039;at.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>So who are the “bad apples”? Maybe you could at least cast some much-needed shame on them.</i></p>
<p>Republicans don&#8217;t do shame, you ought&#8217;a know &#8216;at.</p>
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		<title>By: owlbear1</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/15/what-we-really-see-gop-senators-question-sotomayor/#comment-163994</link>
		<dc:creator>owlbear1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant!</description>
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		<title>By: KevinNYC</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/15/what-we-really-see-gop-senators-question-sotomayor/#comment-163992</link>
		<dc:creator>KevinNYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I LOVE BOSS HOGG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I LOVE BOSS HOGG.</p>
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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/15/what-we-really-see-gop-senators-question-sotomayor/#comment-163991</link>
		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;As The Editors once observed: Why is it that the only Dixiecrat wingnuts can’t seem to forgive is the only one who ever apologized?&lt;/i&gt;

Dude, that&#039;s easy. 

&lt;b&gt;Because&lt;/b&gt; he apologized.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>As The Editors once observed: Why is it that the only Dixiecrat wingnuts can’t seem to forgive is the only one who ever apologized?</i></p>
<p>Dude, that&#8217;s easy. </p>
<p><b>Because</b> he apologized.</p>
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		<title>By: J Crowley</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/15/what-we-really-see-gop-senators-question-sotomayor/#comment-163990</link>
		<dc:creator>J Crowley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, guys, you&#039;re totally right -- white men have it so fucking hard.  Or, to put more eloquently: &quot;Y&#039;all don&#039;t know what it&#039;s like / bein&#039; male, middle class and white.&quot;

How can anyone possibly believe that conservatives actually somehow have even an emaciated, quivering leg to stand on here?

And what, exactly, is so wrong about claiming that in cases of discrimination against women and minorities, someone who actually has experience belonging to a non-privileged group might possibly have better insight into the situation than some rich white dude?  Is this like a &quot;how dare they question our omniscience&quot; kind of thing?  Is it that hard to deal with the concept that maybe we ought to allow others&#039; perspectives into decision-making processes that you have to start slinging around all this &quot;reverse racism&quot; nonsense?  Come on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, guys, you&#8217;re totally right &#8212; white men have it so fucking hard.  Or, to put more eloquently: &#8220;Y&#8217;all don&#8217;t know what it&#8217;s like / bein&#8217; male, middle class and white.&#8221;</p>
<p>How can anyone possibly believe that conservatives actually somehow have even an emaciated, quivering leg to stand on here?</p>
<p>And what, exactly, is so wrong about claiming that in cases of discrimination against women and minorities, someone who actually has experience belonging to a non-privileged group might possibly have better insight into the situation than some rich white dude?  Is this like a &#8220;how dare they question our omniscience&#8221; kind of thing?  Is it that hard to deal with the concept that maybe we ought to allow others&#8217; perspectives into decision-making processes that you have to start slinging around all this &#8220;reverse racism&#8221; nonsense?  Come on.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/15/what-we-really-see-gop-senators-question-sotomayor/#comment-163979</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is fantastic. Point and laugh, point and laugh. Great job, Oliver!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is fantastic. Point and laugh, point and laugh. Great job, Oliver!</p>
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		<title>By: kth</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/15/what-we-really-see-gop-senators-question-sotomayor/#comment-163963</link>
		<dc:creator>kth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:11:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really, it sticks out: &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_L._Jones&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ben Jones&lt;/a&gt; is one of us in real life, and so was the character he played on the show.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really, it sticks out: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_L._Jones" rel="nofollow">Ben Jones</a> is one of us in real life, and so was the character he played on the show.</p>
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		<title>By: kth</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/15/what-we-really-see-gop-senators-question-sotomayor/#comment-163960</link>
		<dc:creator>kth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One correction to that otherwise-awesome post: Not only was the guy who played Cooter a Democrat in real life who actually ran against Newt Gingrich, in the show Cooter was part of the reformist-libertarian Duke faction, opposed to the corrupt, populist Hogg machine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One correction to that otherwise-awesome post: Not only was the guy who played Cooter a Democrat in real life who actually ran against Newt Gingrich, in the show Cooter was part of the reformist-libertarian Duke faction, opposed to the corrupt, populist Hogg machine.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Webb</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/15/what-we-really-see-gop-senators-question-sotomayor/#comment-163944</link>
		<dc:creator>Bruce Webb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well when I see American nativists getting all hot and bothered over the Irish flags flying on St. Patrick&#039;s Day and the Norwegian flags over the local Sons of Norway Hall (big here in the northwest) even on days when it is not Syttende Mae (one of two Norwegian Independence Days) then maybe I will categorize this as something other than racism. Or maybe the day the Republican Party presses for sanctions on Oktoberfest celebrations.

Pat Buchanon and his ilk of &#039;white people wrote the Constitution and built America&#039; folk never quite grasp that 175 years ago tha Irish Catholics were barely conceded to be human by the English-German-Dutch Protestants that ruled this country. There was a day when Bohunk, Hunky, Mick were not endearing any more than Wop or Kike were but instead signs that you were on the other side of the cultural/economic/racial divide from &#039;real&#039; white people.

&quot;No dogs or Irishmen&quot;, thank you very much. Scratch a &#039;Reagan Democrat&#039; and you find some ethnic white that wouldn&#039;t have been allowed to sit in the front parlour back in the day in any respectable Republican household.
__________________________
An interesting factoid I learned in a college survey class on American history.

In the ante-bellum South slave labor by blacks was mostly reserved for the most grueling and demeaning labor but not for the labor that was in fact most dangerous. If you were digging deep ditches or doing mining where they was a constant danger of dirt or rock walls collapsing you hired poor whites. Because if disaster struck you ended up with no capital loss, at worst you paid the widow the days wages. While losing a slave under the same circumstances cost you a lifetime of labor, or more when you considered potential future children.

You would think that southern white workers might have figured out that the guy in the Big House on the Plantation really could give a shit about their welfare and that he was not really doing them any favors by preserving that &#039;Right to Work&#039; status but somehow most of them never quite catch onto the con. &#039;What, what! &#039;White Trash&#039; is an insult? I thought it just meant Good Ol&#039; Boy!&quot; Nope Boss Hogg wears a suit, and you&#039;al wear overalls, and the Boss for one understands the difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well when I see American nativists getting all hot and bothered over the Irish flags flying on St. Patrick&#8217;s Day and the Norwegian flags over the local Sons of Norway Hall (big here in the northwest) even on days when it is not Syttende Mae (one of two Norwegian Independence Days) then maybe I will categorize this as something other than racism. Or maybe the day the Republican Party presses for sanctions on Oktoberfest celebrations.</p>
<p>Pat Buchanon and his ilk of &#8216;white people wrote the Constitution and built America&#8217; folk never quite grasp that 175 years ago tha Irish Catholics were barely conceded to be human by the English-German-Dutch Protestants that ruled this country. There was a day when Bohunk, Hunky, Mick were not endearing any more than Wop or Kike were but instead signs that you were on the other side of the cultural/economic/racial divide from &#8216;real&#8217; white people.</p>
<p>&#8220;No dogs or Irishmen&#8221;, thank you very much. Scratch a &#8216;Reagan Democrat&#8217; and you find some ethnic white that wouldn&#8217;t have been allowed to sit in the front parlour back in the day in any respectable Republican household.<br />
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An interesting factoid I learned in a college survey class on American history.</p>
<p>In the ante-bellum South slave labor by blacks was mostly reserved for the most grueling and demeaning labor but not for the labor that was in fact most dangerous. If you were digging deep ditches or doing mining where they was a constant danger of dirt or rock walls collapsing you hired poor whites. Because if disaster struck you ended up with no capital loss, at worst you paid the widow the days wages. While losing a slave under the same circumstances cost you a lifetime of labor, or more when you considered potential future children.</p>
<p>You would think that southern white workers might have figured out that the guy in the Big House on the Plantation really could give a shit about their welfare and that he was not really doing them any favors by preserving that &#8216;Right to Work&#8217; status but somehow most of them never quite catch onto the con. &#8216;What, what! &#8216;White Trash&#8217; is an insult? I thought it just meant Good Ol&#8217; Boy!&#8221; Nope Boss Hogg wears a suit, and you&#8217;al wear overalls, and the Boss for one understands the difference.</p>
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		<title>By: me</title>
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		<dc:creator>me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I am one of those dumb racist republicans. You know, those stupid redneck hicks....I am sorry I am not as tolerant as you, I need re-education... 
So please explain to me:
a. Why Sotomayor tried to bury the Ricci case.
b. Why Ricci should be denied promotion. In fact, why white males should be discriminated against, and, say, blacks and latinos favored over whites who score higher on standardized tests.
c. Those of you who are white, who support affirmative action, why haven&#039;t you specifically given up whatever &#039;white privilege&#039; you have to a deserving minority? Is it just blue collar guys like Ricci that have pay the price of your misplaced guilt?

Oh and Willis, why do you have to resort to (rather tiresome) caricature? Because we don&#039;t even deserve to have their questions answered? Because the questions are so stupid you they don&#039;t deserve to be taken seriously...or is it you just can&#039;t handle the answers to them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I am one of those dumb racist republicans. You know, those stupid redneck hicks&#8230;.I am sorry I am not as tolerant as you, I need re-education&#8230;<br />
So please explain to me:<br />
a. Why Sotomayor tried to bury the Ricci case.<br />
b. Why Ricci should be denied promotion. In fact, why white males should be discriminated against, and, say, blacks and latinos favored over whites who score higher on standardized tests.<br />
c. Those of you who are white, who support affirmative action, why haven&#8217;t you specifically given up whatever &#8216;white privilege&#8217; you have to a deserving minority? Is it just blue collar guys like Ricci that have pay the price of your misplaced guilt?</p>
<p>Oh and Willis, why do you have to resort to (rather tiresome) caricature? Because we don&#8217;t even deserve to have their questions answered? Because the questions are so stupid you they don&#8217;t deserve to be taken seriously&#8230;or is it you just can&#8217;t handle the answers to them?</p>
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