Jay Caruso: “Ok. So you support having investigations and hearings despite the fact that nothing warrants such investigations and hearings. That’s not surprising.

NR, like I said earlier: Go take your meds. Either that or get off the sauce.”

So Dick Cheney tells the CIA to lie to congress, and you think that’s not reason enough to investigate.

But you think those who want an investigation are crazy.

Jesus-fucking-Christ, the GOP is in a world of trouble with idiots like you as their base.

[H]onestly, my true feeling is this would be a mistake to attempt to prosecute. It’s a fight that will produce no winners and will make a lot of CIA and politicians on both sides look bad. And this country has much bigger fish to fry right now trying to combat terrorism and finish two wars.

That will never stop being hilarious.

Nothing warrants?

Panetta also told lawmakers that former Vice President Dick Cheney directed the CIA not to inform Congress of the specifics of the secret program.
…
Sen. Russ Feingold, a Wisconsin Democrat, said Monday that the CIA’s failure to brief Congress violated the law.

Rep. Peter Hoekstra of Michigan, the senior Republican member of the committee, said he would support an investigation. But … he does not believe the effort merited congressional notification.
[http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/07/15/national/main5160554.shtml ]

But lets not look into the matter to find out if any laws were broken, to find out if notification was required, right? Because nothing warrants that attention.

The House Intelligence Committee will try to establish how much was spent on the effort, whether any training was conducted and whether any officials traveled in association with the programme, a committee official said.

Those factors would determine whether it had progressed enough to warrant congressional notification, the official said.

[http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1199797/Revealed-How-CIA-set-secret-hit-squad-Al-Qaeda-generals.html?ITO=1490]

But let’s not bother trying to establish what actually happened. Because it would be unwarranted, right?

Ongoing questions about the plan include whether it was legal in several respects.

[http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=106598813]

But those questions shouldn’t be answered or even asked because there is nothing to see here, right.

There is clearly nothing odd going on and no reason at all to even look into it to find out.

Because actually knowing things is just a bad idea, right?

Right wingers have a bizarre and sick desire to have a right wing military dictatorship rule this country.

Ok. So you support having investigations and hearings despite the fact that nothing warrants such investigations and hearings. That’s not surprising.

NR, like I said earlier: Go take your meds. Either that or get off the sauce.

Right wingers are supporting secret Executive death squads.

Currently the left is just asking is that such secret death squads have the oversight of our Congress in accordance with our Laws.

Right winger “Jay” brings up a common right wing distraction in complaining that the program “was never operational and had not been used.”

First, that’s speculation. He doesn’t know that and is only reciting what he was told by his authoritarian leaders.

Second, after it’s initial use, our nuclear offensive programs have never been operational and have not been used for 64 years. That’s never prevented Congress from having some oversight over the unused and nonoperational programs.

As much as right wingers are comfortable with giving unfettered power to their designated military dictator, technically we still live in a Republic where our Representatives and Senators (along with our Judiciary) have checks and balances on the Executive.

The “Left” now owns the “conservative” belief in the Rule of Law.

And the “Right” apparently thinks an all powerful military dictator shouldn’t have anyone able to ‘check’ or ‘balance’ that military dictators ability to have a secret hit squad in the wings and ready to be deployed on a whim.

(And aren’t “operational” and “used” are the same thing?)

You say that as if that isn’t something I’d like to see.

I’ve made my discust with the Democratic leaderships inactivity on these matters quite clear in the past. As others here have.

But I don’t think that, just becuase there are larger crimes that should also be investigated, that smaller ones should be allowed to slide. While you, on the other hand, seem to believe that if you can’t solve the entire problem you shouldn’t even try to solve some of it.

And here I thought it was the right wing that was supposed to be so law-and-order.

Oh, don’t worry, Dennis. I found those posters laughable, too.

Well then, you and Former President Cheney have nothing to worry about.

A. There was a Presidential finding.

B. Congress was briefed on said presidential finding.

C. The specific program that was created under this Presidential finding that has the undies of House Democrats and liberals across the blogosphere in a wad was never operational and had not been used.

As such, there were no “covert actions” that took place, only a plan that was put together.

So as I said before, this is nothing but Democrats shamelessly using national security for political purposes. Way to go!

Toosh, Sean. Lol’ed.

We don’t know do we?

Hence the need for an investigation and congressional oversight. See how that works, Jay?

Excuse me? Who did that for the last 7 years? Who up’d the threat level rainbow every time there was an election?

…the same air-headed celebrity who’s remarks are practically indistinguishable from Dennis’s (or is this Britney?). Which–it bears repeating–was the point in the first place.

How come there isn’t one with Geraldo Rivera?

Oh, shut the fuck UP! You have NO credibility to criticize not capturing bin Laden in the first SIX MONTHS of his term. We (Democrats)gave Bush eight fucking years and he did absolutely dick to find him, in fact, reducing the size of the team charged specifically with finding him.
To wit; “I don’t spend a lot of time thinking about him.” George Bush speaking of bin Ladin 8 months after 9/11.

And it sets such a good model for future administrations. Fuck things up royally before leaving office so whoever follows you is so busy cleaning up that they can’t “waste” time investigating even the most gross violations of the law.

Then why not start with the far, far more gross violations of the law that you guys claim were made every hour of every day of every week of every month of every year for the last eight years? Why start with a program that was never even enacted, that if enacted, Congress would’ve been briefed, and if enacted, may very likely have saved countless American lives?

Just not a bold move on the part of your Democratic leadership, Sean. I’m saying that in all sincerity.

Yes, shame on you for having an array of knowledge and for being able to draw on it in a discussion.

(And this from the guy who things Malkin posters support his arguments.)

An array of knowledge? Whoever the CNN interviewer was who asked Britney Spears what she thought of George Bush should have his Democratic party membership revoked. I can’t imagine being in a profession like that and interviewing the most air-headed of air-head celebrities what she thought of the President, much less bring up her answer in a political debate, even to highlight the absurdity of it. My God, Sean, am I someone who has more vast array of knowledge if I know what Lindsay Lohan thinks of Barack Obama’s stimulus package? Hell no, it only means I’m a complete douche with no life whatsoever that I have the time to even ponder it or recall it in an argument.

And no harm meant to you if you do know what LiLo thinks of Obama’s stimulus package.

And the Malkin posters were to ruffle Newsie’s feathers mostly. Not yours, Sean.