Although, I am perfectly willing to establish Austin as a sovereignty within the traitorous country of the People’s Republic of Texastan. Kind of like West Berlin.

And you apologize to Oliver?

Dennis, blow me. I don’t deal with you. Ever.
—IvyinNYC

Wow, Ivy, you’re losing it. You got nothing yet you go all half-cocked pretending you know what you’re talking about. Then when asked to produce anything other than a Bible passage as a source, you say you don’t deal.

You’re in Meltdown Mode.

Take a clue: not everyone who disagrees with you is a red-neck, hick, fundamentalist, evangelical, or whatever other boogeyman keeps you up at night.

Quaker– WTF are YOU talking about? So you teach big bang theory. Oooh, impressed. All I can say about that is you should know better then, shouldn’t you? Creationism is myth, it’s not reality, end of fucking story, k? BITE ME. Asshole.

I don’t give a rat’s ass if you believe the Earth was brought in by a giant space stork– it’s MYTHOLOGY, and NOT science, and it has NO place in public policy.
–Not That IvyNYC

And yet, Ivy, you just made the case that creationism and racism were one and the same by describing a Bible passage that you claimed linked the two.

If you were as concerned about science as you say you are, you’d provide some verifiables statistics that showed a definite correlation.

WTF are you talking about? I teach evolution and big bang theory, often to college freshmen raised in very fundamentalist households. Do you have any clue how many forms “creationism” takes in this society? So no, it is not okay to conflate racism with creationism. It’s not only intellectually dishonest, it’s counterproductive.

So you keep your jackassery at home and we’ll call it even, ‘kay?

And there you go, playing the deflection game again. “Yeah,well, so and so and so and so and so and so are racists too.”

Tell ya what– I’ll stay out of your churches, and you keep your fairy-tales out of my government, and we’ll call it even, k? I don’t give a rat’s ass if you believe the Earth was brought in by a giant space stork– it’s MYTHOLOGY, and NOT science, and it has NO place in public policy. Why you can’t seem to wrap your head around that is beyond me.

Dennis,

while I agree that this phenomenon is not unknown on oliverwillis.com, I would argue that it is the nature of the blogging beast. And that you would find the same crap on a conservative blog. So why point it out at all, in a case as egregious as the one in Philly? Why not just say, “Gosh, that’s horrific and unacceptable” and move on?

And yet, I still choose to live here – because the people I have met people here who do live up to the stereotype of the Midwest – lacking pretension, strong work ethic, always willing to help out a neighbor.

Most of the Southerners I have interacted with are not politicians, but engineers (that is my field of business). And they are no different than engineers I deal with in California. I’m not going to change my opinion of them because their politicians are fools.

The Economist profile of Texas is a terrific piece. It does not spare Texas – it rightfully points out the state leads in number of uninsured, poor social mobility etc. My problem is that for a state that prides itself on a do it yourself persona, it sure receives a lot of federal government money. Houston would probably not be a hive of engineering activity if it were not for the Johnson Space Center.

California and New York, by contrast, like to offer generous safety nets and benefits to its public employees, but it does not like to pay for them. Or, it likes to tax heavily a small portion of people of high net worth. The problem is, such people are very mobile, and can just decamp to a state where they can escape the tax man, like Florida.

As for the Confederate flag, it was a flag that represents a group of people who rejected the Stars & Stripes. It is a flag for traitors. But, to show that I am a hypocrite on this matter, there are few sights as fetching as an in-shape woman wearing a Confederate Flag swimsuit. But that can just be that I enjoy the sight of an attractive woman – period. A Canadian flag swimsuit would be just as nice.

Bullshit. A very small minority of fundamentalists and evangelicals are racist – but then, so are some atheists, Jews, and mainstream Christians.

Ah, yes, he should have. The very idea of creationism is racist, period. Remember the little Buybull story about Cain? About how Cain was set with a “mark” and cast out by God to wander into the land of Nod? You DO realize that Nod was another name for Africa, don’t you? And how Cain found people there in the land of Nod– but these were not people created by God in the Garden. So who were they?

Answer: Africans.

Now, you may be saying, “Well, that’s just speculation and subjective interpretation.” Well, THAT’s the interpretaion I was taught as a child in church. And I know I’m not the only one.

And god help me on the day I find myself in agreement with Dennis

Lol, SQ.

FWIW, I agreed with you on your take the other day on the manager of that pool outside Philly being a huge Obama supporter in that, ‘Really, what difference did it make?, it was wrong regardless’. And it was.

The only difference that it makes is that liberal blogs won’t make a big deal out of it near as much as they would if the guy was a conservative, or even if his political bent weren’t even known. It serves little to no useful purpose for liberal blogs to point out racism coming from liberals.

Must be a ‘mindset’ thing.

Ok, how about crapping on an entire region?

http://fuckthesouth.com/

Still as poignant now as it was 5 years ago.

The picture was there to illustrate a mindset, which while found everywhere (including here in MD, especially on the eastern shore) has a home in the south.

Why does it have to be “us” vs. “them”? Isn’t it more productive to acknowledge that racism still exists everywhere in this country? Trying to pawn it all off on the south gives the rest of the country a free ride – ‘It’s not our problem, it’s just those ignorant red necks.’

Yes, the pool incident happened up in the north. So, that’s like 1 to 1000?

Which is the same argument cons make on your blog whenever you point out malfeasance on the part of Republican lawmakers: ‘Yeah, but this dem did it too!’

The picture was there to illustrate a mindset, which while found everywhere (including here in MD, especially on the eastern shore) has a home in the south.

A picture from Wildwood, NJ to depict a mindset of people in Texas?

If Glenn Reynolds had done something even remotely like that Media Matters would be on it like white on rice, and you’d be linking to it with a blog post of your own saying how dishonest and laughable it was.

You shouldn’t have conflated racism with creationism
They’re both intellectually deficient and resistant to outside knowledge, often they overlap.

Yes, the pool incident happened up in the north. So, that’s like 1 to 1000?