Comments on: The Heart Of The Palin Id http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/12/the-heart-of-the-palin-id/ Like Kryptonite To Stupid Sat, 11 Feb 2012 06:30:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: Duros62 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/12/the-heart-of-the-palin-id/#comment-162756 Duros62 Mon, 13 Jul 2009 18:12:54 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=15365#comment-162756 <i>apparently now that makes him a credible source.</i> No, he's still a redneck hillbilly. apparently now that makes him a credible source.

No, he’s still a redneck hillbilly.

]]> By: Matthew Hooper http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/12/the-heart-of-the-palin-id/#comment-162692 Matthew Hooper Mon, 13 Jul 2009 14:33:32 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=15365#comment-162692 Well, now. How interesting. Sure, absolutely. Anybody using the term is indulging in racism - although I might suggest that trying actually "prove" the charge by demanding identity papers is engaging in a level of racism a bit beyond merely hurling the slur. So. Yes. It is racism. So, now that we agree that it is a racist term, will you follow suit and denounce its use by your fellow travellers? Well, now. How interesting.

Sure, absolutely. Anybody using the term is indulging in racism – although I might suggest that trying actually “prove” the charge by demanding identity papers is engaging in a level of racism a bit beyond merely hurling the slur.

So. Yes. It is racism.

So, now that we agree that it is a racist term, will you follow suit and denounce its use by your fellow travellers?

]]> By: Dennis http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/12/the-heart-of-the-palin-id/#comment-162673 Dennis Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:41:02 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=15365#comment-162673 <blockquote>Usual, to call someone an “anchor baby” is an anti-immigrant and racist slur. AO, to defend it is to defend said slur. It’s pretty simple really. -----Bruce Henry</blockquote> Bruce, is CS Strowbridge an anti-immigrant racist for calling Michelle Malkin an "anchor baby" on here? I linked above to an instance where he did just that. Is he a bigot of the worst order for taking pride in repeatedly calling anyone he disagrees with politically here a "fucking retard"? Or should I assume by not answering that you are defending him? No one here ever steps in to tell him otherwise.

Usual, to call someone an “anchor baby” is an anti-immigrant and racist slur. AO, to defend it is to defend said slur.
It’s pretty simple really.
—–Bruce Henry

Bruce, is CS Strowbridge an anti-immigrant racist for calling Michelle Malkin an “anchor baby” on here? I linked above to an instance where he did just that.

Is he a bigot of the worst order for taking pride in repeatedly calling anyone he disagrees with politically here a “fucking retard”?

Or should I assume by not answering that you are defending him? No one here ever steps in to tell him otherwise.

]]> By: Bruce Henry http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/12/the-heart-of-the-palin-id/#comment-162669 Bruce Henry Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:02:41 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=15365#comment-162669 AO, your "definition" was offered as a defense of usual's anti-immigrant slur. What made it a racist slur as well was that it was directed at Oliver, a black American. Oliver, I hope you don't ban these assholes. Maybe they'll eventually learn something if they keep coming here. AO, your “definition” was offered as a defense of usual’s anti-immigrant slur. What made it a racist slur as well was that it was directed at Oliver, a black American.
Oliver, I hope you don’t ban these assholes. Maybe they’ll eventually learn something if they keep coming here.

]]> By: Oliver Willis http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/12/the-heart-of-the-palin-id/#comment-162560 Oliver Willis Mon, 13 Jul 2009 01:59:17 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=15365#comment-162560 <em>You are a child of the 70’s and your parents are Jamaican. Not a very strong link.</em> We're all black, all Americans, which is what matters. The "one drop" purity parade ended long ago thanks to our forefathers. And I hope you enjoyed this grace period of racist blog commenters exposing themselves. You are a child of the 70’s and your parents are Jamaican. Not a very strong link.
We’re all black, all Americans, which is what matters. The “one drop” purity parade ended long ago thanks to our forefathers.

And I hope you enjoyed this grace period of racist blog commenters exposing themselves.

]]> By: Jaim http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/12/the-heart-of-the-palin-id/#comment-162556 Jaim Mon, 13 Jul 2009 01:47:35 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=15365#comment-162556 Fucking bigots. Thank god the GOP is dying. America has no place for you any longer. Fucking bigots. Thank god the GOP is dying. America has no place for you any longer.

]]> By: News Reference http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/12/the-heart-of-the-palin-id/#comment-162541 News Reference Mon, 13 Jul 2009 00:54:44 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=15365#comment-162541 The "usual 'Republican' suspect" can't do math and is complaining about an uncertain future rather than honestly looking at the Republican Debtors of the last 30 years. Republican Hollywood entertainer Reagan more than doubled the US debt. Republican Bush 1 walked away from 12 years of Republican Presidential rule with a quadrupled <a href="http://HavenWorks.com/us/debt" rel="nofollow">US debt</a>. Republican Bush 2 doubled the US debt <i>again</i> and arguably Republican Bush quadrupled the US debt when all the trillions Republican Bush gave his crony buddies out the back door of the Federal Reserve are added up. Republican Debtors always blame <i>someone</i> else for Republican Debt. It's <a href="http://HavenWorks.com/opinion/blog/archive/2009/200902-february/#REPUBLICAN-MATH" rel="nofollow">Republican Math</a> combined with <a href="http://HavenWorks.com/opinion/blog/archive/2009/200902-february/#Republican's-First-Rule=Rules-Are-For-Other-People" rel="nofollow">Republican's First Rule: Rules Are For Other People</a>. The “usual ‘Republican’ suspect” can’t do math and is complaining about an uncertain future rather than honestly looking at the Republican Debtors of the last 30 years.

Republican Hollywood entertainer Reagan more than doubled the US debt.

Republican Bush 1 walked away from 12 years of Republican Presidential rule with a quadrupled US debt.

Republican Bush 2 doubled the US debt again and arguably Republican Bush quadrupled the US debt when all the trillions Republican Bush gave his crony buddies out the back door of the Federal Reserve are added up.

Republican Debtors always blame someone else for Republican Debt.

It’s Republican Math combined with Republican’s First Rule: Rules Are For Other People.

]]> By: Amused Observer http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/12/the-heart-of-the-palin-id/#comment-162540 Amused Observer Mon, 13 Jul 2009 00:48:47 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=15365#comment-162540 Bruce, On this very thread at 1:13 pm today. That is a definition not a defense. School must have very difficult for you. Bruce,
On this very thread at 1:13 pm today.

That is a definition not a defense. School must have very difficult for you.

]]> By: freD http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/12/the-heart-of-the-palin-id/#comment-162537 freD Mon, 13 Jul 2009 00:44:24 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=15365#comment-162537 <i>Bigots rarely apologize for their insensitivity and backwardness, freD. I’m proud of you.</i> Take it easy Dennis. I was “poking fun with his usual dry sarcasm.” You didn’t need to run “with that one as a completely serious condition”. So what did you once do for a living? Bigots rarely apologize for their insensitivity and backwardness, freD. I’m proud of you.

Take it easy Dennis. I was “poking fun with his usual dry sarcasm.” You didn’t need to run “with that one as a completely serious condition”.

So what did you once do for a living?

]]> By: Amused Observer http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/12/the-heart-of-the-palin-id/#comment-162524 Amused Observer Mon, 13 Jul 2009 00:23:34 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=15365#comment-162524 LOL, I don't need to make friends with whackjobs loons either so I do the same. I didn't note much class warfare during the Bush administration. I was none too pleased about the Bush spending habits but looking at numbers Obama makes him look like a piker if he gets even half of what he wants. I didn't notice much govt. takeover of business either until Bush opened the door with the financial bailout at the very end. As to page and chapter, there is nothing wrong with my ability to read. I'm not quoting you, I am charactorizing your thinking. That you think so little of the feeling that people might have towards their ancestoral homeland is I suppose not surprising. You imply that my problem with Obama is that he is black. I would have no problem with a black man as president if he was of the vein of Clarance Thomas or Thomas Sowell. Strangely enough, I could never support a white man for president that shared the Barak philosophy. Furthermore I note with amusement that Obama is genetically as white as he is black and that neither he nor you have any actual ties the historical American negro experience. You are a child of the 70's and your parents are Jamaican. Not a very strong link. LOL,
I don’t need to make friends with whackjobs loons either so I do the same. I didn’t note much class warfare during the Bush administration. I was none too pleased about the Bush spending habits but looking at numbers Obama makes him look like a piker if he gets even half of what he wants. I didn’t notice much govt. takeover of business either until Bush opened the door with the financial bailout at the very end.

As to page and chapter, there is nothing wrong with my ability to read. I’m not quoting you, I am charactorizing your thinking. That you think so little of the feeling that people might have towards their ancestoral homeland is I suppose not surprising.

You imply that my problem with Obama is that he is black. I would have no problem with a black man as president if he was of the vein of Clarance Thomas or Thomas Sowell. Strangely enough, I could never support a white man for president that shared the Barak philosophy.

Furthermore I note with amusement that Obama is genetically as white as he is black and that neither he nor you have any actual ties the historical American negro experience. You are a child of the 70′s and your parents are Jamaican. Not a very strong link.

]]> By: Mike Licht http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/12/the-heart-of-the-palin-id/#comment-162521 Mike Licht Mon, 13 Jul 2009 00:15:16 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=15365#comment-162521 Governor Palin's record of resentments was chronicled by Noam Scheiber before the election. See: http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=8c130fe3-adab-4cb3-8443-c363f085cf13 Sarah Palin has only one member of the media to blame for her treatment: herself. She has a degree in journalism and worked as a reporter and TV sportscaster. See: http://notionscapital.wordpress.com/2009/01/10/sarah-palin-mad-as-hell/ Governor Palin’s record of resentments was chronicled by Noam Scheiber before the election.

See:

http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=8c130fe3-adab-4cb3-8443-c363f085cf13

Sarah Palin has only one member of the media to blame for her treatment: herself.

She has a degree in journalism and worked as a reporter and TV sportscaster.

See:

http://notionscapital.wordpress.com/2009/01/10/sarah-palin-mad-as-hell/

]]> By: Jaim http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/12/the-heart-of-the-palin-id/#comment-162514 Jaim Sun, 12 Jul 2009 23:58:21 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=15365#comment-162514 Man, the racist nutters are thick in this thread. Dennis, AO, usualsuspect, don't you guys have a Klan rally to make it to? I'd hate for you to be lae. Man, the racist nutters are thick in this thread.

Dennis, AO, usualsuspect, don’t you guys have a Klan rally to make it to? I’d hate for you to be lae.

]]> By: Bruce Henry http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/12/the-heart-of-the-palin-id/#comment-162513 Bruce Henry Sun, 12 Jul 2009 23:57:37 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=15365#comment-162513 On this very thread at 1:13 pm today. On this very thread at 1:13 pm today.

]]> By: Amused Observer http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/12/the-heart-of-the-palin-id/#comment-162503 Amused Observer Sun, 12 Jul 2009 23:35:42 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=15365#comment-162503 Bruce, Anti immigrant perhaps, racist I don't think so. Your reading skills have failed you, find the quote where I defend the term anchor baby. Bruce,
Anti immigrant perhaps, racist I don’t think so. Your reading skills have failed you, find the quote where I defend the term anchor baby.

]]> By: Oliver Willis http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/12/the-heart-of-the-palin-id/#comment-162502 Oliver Willis Sun, 12 Jul 2009 23:32:19 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=15365#comment-162502 <em>Calling “those people” idiots and dismissing their thinking as nativist bullshit is hardly an objective analysis.</em> I'm kind of blunt that way. I don't need to make friends with wackjob loons so I call them what they are. <em>it is amusing that you think the newest page in the book trumps the chapters before it</em> I didn't say that either. You clearly cannot read. <em>there is plenty of room to argue that the Republic will be much worse off having suffered 4 to 8 years of his odious socialism, class warfare and reckless debt accumulation</em> Oh I'm sorry I nodded off there. Because if you cared at all about class warfare, debt accumulation or govt takeover of industry you would be in the streets during the Bush administration. But then things got really bad when we elected a <em>black</em> president. Calling “those people” idiots and dismissing their thinking as nativist bullshit is hardly an objective analysis.
I’m kind of blunt that way. I don’t need to make friends with wackjob loons so I call them what they are.

it is amusing that you think the newest page in the book trumps the chapters before it
I didn’t say that either. You clearly cannot read.

there is plenty of room to argue that the Republic will be much worse off having suffered 4 to 8 years of his odious socialism, class warfare and reckless debt accumulation
Oh I’m sorry I nodded off there. Because if you cared at all about class warfare, debt accumulation or govt takeover of industry you would be in the streets during the Bush administration.

But then things got really bad when we elected a black president.

]]> By: News Reference http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/12/the-heart-of-the-palin-id/#comment-162501 News Reference Sun, 12 Jul 2009 23:28:58 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=15365#comment-162501 We already know that Republican's reckless rule has damaged America for decades. The Republican's reckless debt accumulation goes back almost 30 years to Republican Hollywood entertainer Ronald Reagan who more than DOUBLED the <a href="http://HavenWorks.com/us/debt" rel="nofollow">US debt</a>. Republican Presidents Reagan and Bush 1 more than QUADRUPLED the US debt. Republican President Bush 2 squandered a surplus and then more than doubled the US debt <i>again</i> once all of Republican Bush's debts are added up. Republican President Bush 2 arguably even quadrupled the US debt when you add in the still unaccounted trillions Republican Bush 2 looted out of the back door of the Federal Reserve. And right wing economic fictions directly created the current Republican Great Recession not to mention the serious damage right wing voodoo economic fantasies did to America's economy over the last 30 years. We already know that Republican’s reckless rule has damaged America for decades.

The Republican’s reckless debt accumulation goes back almost 30 years to Republican Hollywood entertainer Ronald Reagan who more than DOUBLED the US debt.

Republican Presidents Reagan and Bush 1 more than QUADRUPLED the US debt.

Republican President Bush 2 squandered a surplus and then more than doubled the US debt again once all of Republican Bush’s debts are added up.

Republican President Bush 2 arguably even quadrupled the US debt when you add in the still unaccounted trillions Republican Bush 2 looted out of the back door of the Federal Reserve.

And right wing economic fictions directly created the current Republican Great Recession not to mention the serious damage right wing voodoo economic fantasies did to America’s economy over the last 30 years.

]]> By: Bruce Henry http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/12/the-heart-of-the-palin-id/#comment-162499 Bruce Henry Sun, 12 Jul 2009 23:25:19 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=15365#comment-162499 Usual, to call someone an "anchor baby" is an anti-immigrant and racist slur. AO, to defend it is to defend said slur. It's pretty simple really. Usual, to call someone an “anchor baby” is an anti-immigrant and racist slur. AO, to defend it is to defend said slur.
It’s pretty simple really.

]]> By: Amused Observer http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/12/the-heart-of-the-palin-id/#comment-162486 Amused Observer Sun, 12 Jul 2009 22:25:54 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=15365#comment-162486 Oliver, Calling "those people" idiots and dismissing their thinking as nativist bullshit is hardly an objective analysis. While every immingrant may add to America's story it is amusing that you think the newest page in the book trumps the chapters before it. While no one will be able to disagree that Papa Barack's progeny will have a large impact on America there is plenty of room to argue that the Republic will be much worse off having suffered 4 to 8 years of his odious socialism, class warfare and reckless debt accumulation. Oliver,
Calling “those people” idiots and dismissing their thinking as nativist bullshit is hardly an objective analysis. While every immingrant may add to America’s story it is amusing that you think the newest page in the book trumps the chapters before it.

While no one will be able to disagree that Papa Barack’s progeny will have a large impact on America there is plenty of room to argue that the Republic will be much worse off having suffered 4 to 8 years of his odious socialism, class warfare and reckless debt accumulation.

]]> By: Oliver Willis http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/12/the-heart-of-the-palin-id/#comment-162475 Oliver Willis Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:54:30 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=15365#comment-162475 <em>Some people feel they have a deeper stake in the country if their family has helped shape the nation throughout her history compared to someone who just got here.</em> Well those people are idiots. Why? It assumes we have no future past now. Every immigrant adds to the American story, no matter when the hell they got here. Barack Obama's dad came to America in the '60s and yet his son's impact on history is - and will be - pretty significant compared to some people who can trace their bloodlines back to the Mayflower. <em>It’s quite a natural feeling and easy to understand.</em> No, its nativist b.s. just like your initial questions. Some people feel they have a deeper stake in the country if their family has helped shape the nation throughout her history compared to someone who just got here.
Well those people are idiots. Why? It assumes we have no future past now. Every immigrant adds to the American story, no matter when the hell they got here. Barack Obama’s dad came to America in the ’60s and yet his son’s impact on history is – and will be – pretty significant compared to some people who can trace their bloodlines back to the Mayflower.

It’s quite a natural feeling and easy to understand.
No, its nativist b.s. just like your initial questions.

]]> By: Amused Observer http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/07/12/the-heart-of-the-palin-id/#comment-162474 Amused Observer Sun, 12 Jul 2009 21:48:30 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=15365#comment-162474 Again Oliver, Please direct me towards the "your papers please" bullshit. By the way the 1920's hardly counts for being an old timer. Some people feel they have a deeper stake in the country if their family has helped shape the nation throughout her history compared to someone who just got here. It's quite a natural feeling and easy to understand. Again Oliver,
Please direct me towards the “your papers please” bullshit. By the way the 1920′s hardly counts for being an old timer.

Some people feel they have a deeper stake in the country if their family has helped shape the nation throughout her history compared to someone who just got here. It’s quite a natural feeling and easy to understand.

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