But you knew that already.
The Central Intelligence Agency withheld information about a secret counterterrorism program from Congress for eight years on direct orders from former Vice President Dick Cheney, the agency’s director, Leon E. Panetta, has told the Senate and House intelligence committees, two people with direct knowledge of the matter said Saturday.
The report that Mr. Cheney was behind the decision to conceal the still-unidentified program from Congress deepened the mystery surrounding it, suggesting that the Bush administration had put a high priority on the program and its secrecy.
Mr. Panetta, who ended the program when he first learned of its existence from subordinates on June 23, briefed the two intelligence committees about it in separate closed sessions the next day.
If anyone needs any more proof of who was actaully running the country for 8 years, this is it. An abject moron in the oval office and one of the most amoral and evil of men calling the shots.
That officially makes Congress the last people in the United States to find this out.
Get outta here!
The CIA was running a secret operation?!
Unbelievable !!
MWAhahahahahahahahahahaha!
LOL,
Specifically what made Dick Cheney amoral and evil?
His support for the death of thousands of Americans on multiple occasions. For one.
Also, Frank, I’m sure you’ll be just as amused by the secret file the Obama administration is making about you, right? Right?
The CIA was running a secret operation?!
If they do so without following proper oversight procedures they better be damn sure that something really impressive comes of it, so they can present it as a mitigating factor at their sentencing hearing.
(Just on the off-chance that someone finally grows enough testicles to hold the Bushites accountable for their crimes.)
War criminal.
Yes, Oliver , when the Obama administration gets a listen to those calls to the Pizza Parlor, I can expect a one way ticket to Guantanamo …
Frank subscribes to the school of thought that asks, “If you’re not doing anything wrong, why worry what the police are doing?”
“Hey, I’ve got nothing to hide, right? Ha ha! I don’t mind them spying on me!”
I’ve actually heard Hannity something to that effect before.
We’re not afraid of the terrorists, so why have all those security measures? But, we are afraid of the police, so let’s not give them too much power?
Huh?
The government screws up everything it touches, but lets give them more power with no oversight!
“His support for the death of thousands of Americans on multiple occasions. For one.”
What about the 29 Senate Dems and 126 House Dems that voted for the war? You know, Reid, Pelosi, Kerry, Clinton et al.
All amoral and evil? Cause I have not heard you make that point before….
So Reid, Pelosi, Kerry, Clinton and the rest are amoral, evil, and hypocrits too?
What about the 29 Senate Dems and 126 House Dems that voted for the war? You know, Reid, Pelosi, Kerry, Clinton et al.
As I’m sure you’ve been told a zillion times they did not vote for the war, what they voted for was to give the president the authorization he’d been begging for for his invasion scheme. Yes, Virginia, there is a difference.
Some of them hoped that the authorization itself would help prevent a war. None of them probably suspected the extent to which the administration had cooked the case presented to them. And few of them probably anticipated the kak-handedness with which the invasion and occupation would be carried out by the Bush-Cheney axis.
Nevertheless, their vote was a naive and/or cowardly mistake, and many of them have repented of it, publicly.
That puts them light-years above the Cheneys of this world on the morality index.
Frank, I’m pretty sure the Founders were more afraid of the police powers of government than they were of, oh, I don’t know, savage Indians or the British or diehard monarchists or whatever security threats they faced.
Bruce, I am also pretty certain that the British were better armed than the local Indians, and that the local Indians were not equipped with suitcase sized atomic bombs.
However, the conundrum seems to escape you, since you are actually making a comparison between police forces that might accidentally reveal some embarrassing information about you, or even unnecessarily detain you; and terrorists that could blow up the tallest building in America, killing over 3,000 people.
Can you say “moral equivalence”? I knew that you could.
Just making the point, however poorly, that even law-abiding citizens should be concerned when a powerful police force can listen to private conversations without judicial oversight.
So who thinks Dick Cheney and his ilk were making the country safer? Why, the Obama administration!
SaveFarris, I don’t see anything in the link you provided that suggests the Obama administration thinks Cheney & co. were making the country safer. Am I missing something?
The right wing’s outrageous duplicity is hard to counter with dull facts.
Right wing lies are always more colorful (and often very profitable) than reality.
Republicans falsely claim to hate government and falsely claim to want a smaller government and then when Republicans get in charge of government they massively expand the size, power, and intrusiveness of government right wingers cheer it on.
When Republican President Bush lied US into war and falsified intelligence to falsely make his case, right wingers aren’t mad at him, instead right wingers point to those that Republican Bush suckered and claim those suckers are the problem.
And instead of accepting that decent people got suckered by Republican Bush’s lies, the right wing mocks those decent people that got suckered instead of holding accountable the (neo)-con-artist that lied US into war, got thousands of Americans killed, and misspent 2/3rds of a TRILLION dollars (and counting).
And those that didn’t get suckered by Republican Bush’s lies are simply ignored and left uncounted as if they never existed.
@Frank, the Brits and new Americans used the first WMD’s- Anthrax blankets. Bioterrorism.
rofl. But let’s not ret-con relativism.
and that the local Indians were not equipped with suitcase sized atomic bombs.
There’s that fictitious suitcase atomic bomb that nobody has that we should all be afraid of again.
Can you say “moral equivalence”? I knew that you could.
Can you say “Illegal search and seizure in violation of your constitutional rights as a US citizen?” I thought you could.
(E)ven law-abiding citizens should be concerned when a powerful police force can listen to private conversations without judicial oversight.
And yet, somehow, it is Obama and the Democrats that will bring about Big Brother and the totalitarian regime.
Somehow. In Glenn Beck’s fever dreams.
I guess the Liberals don’t want to bring up what happened in 1994. Senate Intel Committee approved a US led invasion of Haiti during Operation Uphold Democracy. The Seals went in first the night before, and were blinded by video cameras when they got on the beach. Turns out someone on the committee leaked it out to the media and they couldn’t pass up the opportunity. Luckily no one got killed.
There is a reason why is it ’secret,’ it only works if only a few people know about it. Besides, the program was never implemented so it never had to go before the committee.
Just another ploy to point the finger at someone else other than Pelosi or Panetta. Why not the Bush administration, its such an easy target.