You guys don’t deserve to ever govern again. For the sake of America, hopefully you never will.

The 2007 Great Recession is a direct result of right wing economic fictions.

The stimulus to repair the Republican damage to the economy was inadequate and lefty economists said as much when it was first being discussed.

Krugman, Baker, Stiglitz and other near-prescient economists were quite clear that the economy was much worse than was discussed in the corporate media and they were quite clear that a much larger stimulus was needed to get the economy back on track.

The Republicans damage to both our American economy AND the global economy is in some ways worse than the Republicans infliceted upon US during the Republican Great Depression.

The only difference is that we had hindsight enough to be able to respond better to the Republican Economic Disaster.

Even the Republicans in September of 2008 understood enough to know that the only way to save capitalism was to engage in radical government intervention.

Republican Bush nationalized (communism) many large banks and insurance companies.

Republican Bush used massive government/taxpayer money to boost the economy (socialism).

But that’s only forestalled US from sinking into another Republican Great Depression.

Further economic stimulus is essential to keep US out of the economic hole the Republicans have been digging US into these last 30 years.

You are quoting Boehner as proof that the Democrats lied.

Could you find a less reliable source?
—CS Strawbridge

A less reliable source, you say? How about Christina Romer, from when she prepared the report. Given the predictions, yes, a less reliable source.

In any event, here it is:
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The Job Impact of the American Recovery and Reinvestment Plan

Christina Romer- Chair-Nominee-Designate, Council of Economic Advisers

Jared Bernstein- Office of the Vice President Elect
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Scroll down to page 5 of the pdf. Straight from the horse’s mouth, Strowbridge. Unemployment projected not to go above 8% with the stimulus plan.

If you had something to refute Boehner, you’d not only know about it from liberal blogs screaming at the top of their lungs about so blatant a lie, you’d also have posted it here intead of just scoffing at him with no evidence to refute him.

Always the dishonest one. Exposed fraudulence, once again.

You are quoting Boehner? The person who admitted he was wrong when he said no contracts had been awarded yet.

You are quoting Boehner as proof that the Democrats lied.

Could you find a less reliable source?

Wouldn’t go above 8%? What the fuck are you talking about?

I think you are mixing up the ’stress test’ vs. the budget.

And I think you’re an idiot who doesn’t know his ass from a hole in the ground, Strowbridge. You’re the only guy here who would call someone else fucking stupid without doing any homework to know just what he was talking about before he started writing.

“Where Are the Jobs” From the Stimulus?

“The president and Democrats in Congress claim this spending binge is necessary to put Americans back to work,” House Republican leader John Boehner said Saturday in the Republican radio and Internet address. “They promised unemployment would not rise above 8 percent if their trillion-dollar stimulus was passed.”

Wouldn’t go above 8%? What the fuck are you talking about?

I think you are mixing up the ‘stress test’ vs. the budget.

“The irony is that your comeback makes no sense.”

The problem is you are fucking stupid and are mixing up two different things.

I am not here to tell you the sky is falling, but I am here to tell you that all of this triumphalism about Democratic majorities as far as the eye can see are “short-sighted.”

Welcome to GOP logic ca. 2009.

The irony is that your comeback makes no sense. Just like your original statement in March when you were bragging that it was all coming together just like they drew it up.

That’s the irony.

Dennis the Bigot: “That has been proven TRUE.”

Uhhh… You realize the money is being spent right now. You do know that, right? In fact, stimulus money was being spent almost immediately, and BEFORE INCOME TAX REFUNDS WENT OUT.

On the other hand, the Right-wingers claimed it would take too long for the money to be spend. In fact, John Boehner recently claimed no contracts had been awarded in Ohio.

This was a big fucking lie.

“You have been proven a know-it-all idiot who in actuality knows very little.”

How ironic.

Frank: “No.”

Then explain what you meant when you said…

“Sending an additional check to benefit recipients is not a tax cut, anymore than handing a quarter to everyone who crosses over a bridge on a Monday morning a toll reduction’”

Except I predicted things would bottom out at the end of 2009 or the beginning of 2010.

We haven’t reached the end of 2009 / the beginning of 2010, so you can’t judge my predictions.

In a two party system, when these voters are disillusioned with the way the party in power governs, they only have one place to go (most of time), so writing the obituary of either of the two main parties is always premature as it assumes the party in ascendancy will never disappoint the public at large.

At some time in the future, the Democrats will be vulnerable to arguments that it once again time for a change – but the Republicans will need to be able to convince enough American’s that they are capable of competently effecting that change in order to shift the balance of power in congress or the Whitehouse. It is still early, but there is very little chance of that happening in 2010 (even if the Republicans could get their shit together by then), and 2012 looks out of reach as well (given that incumbent Presidents of both parties are more likely to increase their margin of victory than to be defeated when seeking re-election).

The Republicans have five years until the 2014 midterms to find a unifying and resonant message, and another two years beyond that to find a standard bearer capable of uniting the party and reaching beyond it. Even this does not assure victory, but five to seven years is a long time in politics and the issues that will drive those election cycles are currently unknowable, but it’s as least as likely that the Republicans will be focused and united by then as it is they continue to marginalize themselves while bickering over the future of the party and rallying behind personalities who all but guarantee minority party status.

You know what your problem is, Strowbridge? You present the evidence that you should be insulted before you insult anyone. If you ever demonstrated that you had some alternative explanation for things, or perhaps some evidence not previously presented that you were correct, and the other person incorrect, that might have some worth.

But to follow a statement that someone is stupid with a statement of your own that is stupendously stupid is really a tragic error.

It’s a shame you were born at all.

Spoken like a true 21st Century liberal, who appreciates the value of every human being. You would have been right at home in 1930′s Germany.

Pathetic

I want dates, so when you are wrong, I can point to this prediction and tell you the shut the fuck up.–CS Strawbridge

Here’s what you said back in March egarding the stimulus,CSS:
“there are already signs of hope, including people being hired thanks to stimulus money.

I remember one of the right-wing talking points was that the stimulus spending would take too long to kick it. This has been proven false.”

That has been proven TRUE. You have been proven a know-it-all idiot who in actuality knows very little.

So if failed predictions were reasons for shutting the fuck up and you had even the slightest bit of honor, YOU are the first person who should shut the fuck up.

Good god, you are a stupid, stupid man.

George W. Bush cuts taxes to the richest of the rich while increasing spending, but you think people will blame Obama for trying to restart a failed economy.

When do you think this will happen?

I want dates, so when you are wrong, I can point to this prediction and tell you the shut the fuck up.

Are you claiming most middle class people don’t pay taxes?

“Damn, Jaim, I was born in the afternoon – not yesterday afternoon.”

It’s a shame you were born at all.

Damn, Jaim, I was born in the afternoon – not yesterday afternoon .