should be : “Wouldn’t it be better for the planet if we pretended global warming was true?”

But, of course, for “News” “Reference” ( a sad name, isn’t it? He provides us with neither ), pretending things are true is a way of life.

1) Global climate changes quite often. Any child knows that. Thank you, Professor Coriolis !

2) What you now call “global climate change” was known as “global warming” just two short years ago. Do you have any idea why the terminology changed? I have a few.

3) And I am not a “denier”. I am neither “An old French coin worth one-twelfth of a sou”, nor am I “a unit of measurement for the fineness of silk or nylon or rayon”. And I most certainly do not wish to be corralled into the same pen as people who choose to pretend the Holocaust never happened (which is, of course, why that particularly odious term was used to a)smear those people who didn’t accept the unproved, and now, most certainly, untrue theories of the Global Warmians; and b) to imply that Global Climate Change, née “Global Warming”, is as certain as the existence of the Holocaust, which, of course, it is not); and because most “Holocaust deniers” are anti – semitic.

Interestingly, Global Warmians are similarly ideologically driven, and when faced with the myriad arguments that ‘global warming’ is hooey, first, changed its name, and second, fall back to a position of “Wouldn’t it be better for the planet if we pretended global warming was true?”

But, of course, for “News” “Reference” ( a sad name, isn’t it? He provides us with neither ), pretending things are true is a way of life.

Differential diagnosis is used to “rule out” possible causes of disease, in the hopes of getting extremely close to the actual cause of a patients’ distress.

It has no place in historical analysis. And yet it is used constantly by lefties like “News” “Reference” here, and on blogs like this one. Usually, it is not laid out so extravagantly as it just was by “Newsie”.

Most often, it is done like this:

There can only be two explanations for Phenomenon A; Explanation 1, and Explanation 2.

Usually, each explanation is an unproven, undocumented allegation. The faux diagnostician then picks out the “Explanation” that suits his / her fancy and, pointing to the other one, says, “It can’t be Explanation 2, because __________ { Fill in the blank with contrived, unproven, and undocumented ‘explanation’ }.

Then , continuing, they say, “Therefore, it must be “Explanation 2″.

It then becomes necessary for a conservative to provide the faux diagnostician with true, supported , demonstrated if not proven, documented Explanation 3.

In sum: In history, ‘Not NotA’ does not equal B, or C, or D. It only equals “NotA”, until what it actually is can be determined.

The sad part is that you do not.

And right winger “Dennis” thinks “Frank DiSalle” is smart.–News Idiot

Unlike you, Newsie, most of the time he speaks from experience. None of the time does he bullshit you, unlike you All of the time he sticks around and finishes his skirmishes, very much unlike you, when called on something. Unlike you, he doesn’t link to and subscribe to wack-job blogs and websites and repeat them here like they are unadulterated truth.

Yesterday you called matt621 a liar when he explained how the bloggers and others who called the New Haven SCOTUS decision a 9-0 rebuke of Judge Sotomayor’s reasons for her decision in the case. I asked you to show how that was incorrect. You never came back to the thread. Frank wouldn’t do that. Just here on this thread, you said that Frank claimed the civil war was a time of peace, and you failed to mention that he came back and said he mistakenly included the time period up until 1865,and admitted he erred in doing so. You’re too dishonest to include that. He explained his reasoning for making the 12 hours of daylight claim- agan you fail to mention that. I don’t think you could get anyone here to say he would do something like that to anyone, something you do routinely and unabashedly, and when called on it, you flee the scene,never to return.

And from the trolls point of view, the million plus dead Iraqis and the millions of Iraqi refugees are just icing on the cake.

Have a linky there on that “million plus dead”, Mr. A-lister?

First Republicans lied about WMD (weapons of mass destruction).

There was none. Why did we stay? (Oil.)

Republicans lied that it was about fighting the terrorists.

The terrorists that attacked US were in Afghanistan NOT Iraq.

Worse, Republican Bush’s attack of Iraq GENERATED more terrorists and terrorism and Republican Bush’s refusal to leave Iraq continued to generate terrorists for years. Why did we stay? (Oil.)

Republicans lied that it was about deposing Saddam.

He’s dead. Why did we stay? (Oil.)

Republicans lied when they said it was about installing a democratic republic.

Iraq has a democratic republic. Why did we stay? (Oil.)

Oil was the only valid strategic reason to stay in Iraq.

Everything else the Republicans said was a lie.

Republicans attempt to steal Iraqi oil has cost US 4,317 American troops lives, over $682 billion dollars, and a significant erosion of American power.

The Republican’s Iraq War Lie may still cost US trillions more.

Had we invested half of that on alternative energy research our American nation would be much better off in many different ways.

One of the dividends of investing in alternative energy would have been in defunding the oil nations of Iran, Russia, and Venezuela, all of whom were empowered by the Republican’s Iraq War Lie.

Right wing fiction writer “Frank DiSalle” has claimed that America’s bloody Civil War was a time of peace, claimed that the sun turns off 12 hours a day, and is a global climate change denier.

And right winger “Dennis” thinks “Frank DiSalle” is smart.

“Dennis” + “Frank” = Allies in Stupidity.

Planting seeds is one thing. They ain’t gonna grow if you stand on them.

Not that I for one will forgive those ‘yes’ votes, but it was an ugly climate to be a politician in a democracy. So soon after 9/11, voting ‘no’ on blowing up some other Muslim country, you could rather easily be portrayed as weak on national security.

“When Bremer [disbanded the military], the insurgency went crazy. May was the turning point” for the US Occupation, Col. King said later. “When they disbanded the military, and announced we were occupiers – that was it. Every moderate, every person that had leaned toward us, was furious. One Iraqi who had saved my life in an ambush said to me, ‘I can’t be your friend anymore.’” … Some vowed they would violently oppose the US decisions. “All of us will become suicide bombers,” former officer Khairi Jassim told Reuters. “The only thing left for me is to blow myself up in the face of tyrants,” another officer told al Jazeera. … “We will not let the Americans rule us in such a humiliating way.” — ‘Fiasco,’ Thomas Ricks, page 164.

To totally defang a rogue state with Pan – Arabist intentions .

Check.

They already were defanged after the 1998 Desert Fox bombings.

To successfully place thousands of American troops in the Middle East where Points of Entry, landing strips and monitoring and reconnaissance stations can be established .

Check.

Against the will of the people that live there? There’s a word for that, you know.

To plant the seedlings of Democracy in two of the Middle East’s most powerful and bellicose states.

Check.

Hope so. We’ll see. The real test will be if they are allowed to elect somebody we don’t like.

In short, to do more for Middle East peace than all the Presidents since 1948 – combined …

Which of course would be why President Bush is beloved by a plurality of middle easterners.

Oh, wait.

One thing you always seem to leave out, all the opportunistic Democrats who were also in favor of the war and were quite vocal about it, especially when they didn’t have to be. You can’t seem to admit the key role they played, that far too many of your current heroes today were either opportunistic politicians then displaying their bravado for all the country to see, or else clowns and useful idiots who were duped by a guy you swear is, and always was, a complete buffoon. There’s no real consensus on that either way, so the usual course of action from folks such as yourself, your ilk as many of you love to say, is to never mention that little piece of the inconvenient truth in your rants.

If you think you OWN me because you can spew silly stuff and then high-five each other, you are entitled to your worthless opinion.

My opinion is that we got nothing for our money, that we killed a lot of innocent people and recruited thousands more for AQ, that you pulled the number of dead “terrorists” out of your ass while ignoring the tens of thousands of innocent dead, and ignored the fact that a lot of AQ money came from Saudi Arabia.

So go ahead, do your best to insult me while I consider the source and ponder your idiocy. You have revealed the degree of cruelty and anti-patriotic sentiment that we who love our country are up against.

Maybe the United States will fail, but it will be from those like you within our country who have surrendered our principles, not from enemies outside it.

How could anyone who lived through Vietnam want to repeat the experience?

Invasion under false pretenses?

Check.

Killed a lot of people from 40,000 feet?

Check.

No exit plan?

Check.

Years of expensive quagmire and looting of the treasury by military contractors?

Check.

Nothing to show for all that effort except highly suspect claims that we made things “better” even when no one asked us to?

Check. And mate. It would be your move, but the game is over and I won. Woo-Hoo! Ownage!

Insulting me when you have nothing to say is not in the least bit impressive. A knowledgeable opinion might have been. Better luck next time.–
–Frank DiSalle

A complete and thorough ownage. Start, finish and everything in between. Well done.

Missed by that much. Saddam had nothing to do with AQ. So we WASTED all that money?

Oh, poor Repack. Just because Al Qaeda = terrorists, terrorists /= Al Qaeda. There are a lot of other terrorists around, and Saddam helped out quite a few of them.

And Obama is getting the credit for the culmination of Bush’s plan in Iraq? I don’t know the rules of baseball very well, but I doubt he’d be credited with either a win or a save here. Just what has Obama actually DONE with regards to Iraq that demonstrates any kind of “balls?” Oh, he’s said a lot — he’s great at that — but what has he actually DONE? What policies did he implement? What changes did he make? What orders did he give?

He’s done something right with North Korea this week, though, and I give him full credit for that…

J.

Let’s take your “arguments” one by one:

Saddam had nothing to do with AQ.
So he never sent money to surviving families of suicide bombers? I guess if they die without an Al-Qaeda membership card in their pocket, they’re “innocent civilians”?

I served in the Army when any dead Vietnamese became VC.
First of all, I recognize the cute wording… Well. I was in Vietnam. And you are most definitely wrong.
Not that what happened in Vietnam has anything whatever to do with what happened in Iraq, does it?

Who said that, and when? Sadam Hussein said it in exile — on the run from the police. Go read a book or two that wasn’t written by Thomas Friedman.
Tell me what the Iran – Irag War was about?
And the invasion of Kuwait?

Because they ASKED us to do this?
I said it was done — I didn’t say the asked us. But, oh, yeah — they did ask. Maybe when you’re reading that book that will be in there. If not, read another one.

I don’t believe it is any of our business how other countries govern themselves.

Good thing he did:

I am here to promote the Freedom Doctrine. The great battleground for the defense and expansion of freedom today, is the whole southern half of the globe: Asia, Latin America, Africa and the Middle East [emphasis added - fd], the lands of the rising people. Their revolution is the greatest in human history. They seek an end to injustice, tyranny, and exploitation. More than an end, they seek a beginning. And there is a revolution which we would support regardless of the Cold War, and regardless of which political or economic route they should choose to freedom.

John F. Kennedy ~ May 5, 1961

Insulting me when you have nothing to say is not in the least bit impressive. A knowledgeable opinion might have been. Better luck next time.