Not only were you wrong but the experts that New Haven hired to say that the test was discriminatory that you were so fond of mentioning time and time again were wrong. And again while title 7 does not mandate that a test be made easier, that is the simplest way to get the politically correct number of successful candidates.

The real world purpose of title 7 is not to make things more fair, a level playing field that is color blind. It is to compensate for competitive shortcomings. Much like a handicap in horseracing or golf. But that is a hard harsh thing to have to admit which is why some people go to such elaborate lengths to deny the obvious.

congratulations, amused. You’ve achieved the “I know you are but what am I” level of hackery.

Title VII requires that tests not be disriminatory, not that they be easy. And the supreme court decision doesn’t change a single thing I’ve said about the facts of this case. The cirut established a higher burden for proving disparate impact and then said that the city didn’t meet that burden in this case.

Simple as that.

Farfaroo,
This case was narrow in it’s scope and relied on the provisions of title 7 that prohibit racial discrimination. You’ve been wrong all along about this case, note the recent ruling. The idea of disproportionate impact is the key to your befuddlement.
The pragmatic way to measure disproportionate impact is to count the winners and losers after the fact. If the results are not racially correct then the test is altered until racially correct outcomes are able to be recorded. This is seldom achieved by making the test harder.

You’re wasting your time Quake; AO wouldn’t lower himself to see a Spike Lee joint, as he’s just another AA recipient getting by on his lack of merit and reliance on a system skewed against White people.

Now offer him a Stepinfectchit film fest and see how fast he gets his popcorn.

It’s attitudes such as these that prompted AA in the first place; the fact you can’t see that is very telling.

I suppose you’d have no issue if I suggested that ALL White people are racist apologists, longing for the days when the back of the bus was good enough for minorities?

And Republicans wonder why minorities are increasingly alienated by the right wing.

sheesh

Dude, stop with this shit. It’s not what the case was about, it’s not what Title VII requires, it’s not what anyone is asking for.

You call me disingenuous after you haul out “eat n sleep”? Shame!

No Jrfunk, the problem with legalized discrimination is it is directly opposed to the 14th Amendment. Would you care to explain how you can square affirmative action with the 14th?

There have been several legal challenges as you well know Jrfunk. In fact the latest is the topic of this posting by Oliver, strangely enough. Your views on what happens to tests in the real world is a bit myopic. Standards are dropped to a lowest common denominator and then judged unbiased if blacks are able to pass in sufficient numbers. With luck we’ll see less of that.

The solution should have been actually studying and learning the material, not dumbing down the test.

A credit to their race, AO?

Good heavens, you’re spilling racial stereotypes all over the place, mister. Well, I’m not cleaning up this mess.

Nope, I’m done with you. Your posts have devolved in to an incoherent mishmash of talking points and knee jerk reactions, and for some reason they’re being written in the rhetorical style of a 1920s carnival hawker. You’re either trolling or worse…

How many Asian firemen have you seen?

Nonsense; the pragmatic viewpoint is that if certain practices, including evaluations, are found to be inherently discriminatory for WHATEVER reason, cultural bias, predisposed bias or purposeful bias, said bias is unfair.

Your view seems to be that no matter the ‘traditional’ adjudicatory system is found to contain inequalities, the system should remain intact and untouched, and those who are discriminated against as a result should just take their rightful place outside the system and not seek justice to right the wrong.

If those White candidates felt unfairly shut out, they have a legal recourse available to pursue their grievance.

By invoking the ‘Affirmative action is legal discrimination’ meme, you harken back the days when minorities were expected to be denied a fair shake, and keep their uppity mouths shut about it.

Now you claim that the safeguards in place to correct that systemic injustice are unfair to Whites; are we to expect you to keep your sense of injustice to yourself, are do you have the right to sound off and seek legal action?

Really, this sense of the poor White man downtrodden by society is pretty pathetic, but I notice no one suggesting you don’t have the means of pursuing what you consider a just legal challenge.

Or should we just bemoan the uppity nature of the White man’s burden?

And just for giggles, tell us all where you sit within your racial hierarchy.