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How much mileage are you going to try to get out of these 15 people that showed up at that rally, Oliver?
Letterman had already made the apology just the night before, the one he should’ve made in the first place. And Palin had already accepted it. So it’d hardly be surprising that in all of NYC there’d be 15 people with a couple screws loose and enough of an ax to grind to go with it to show up just to vent so that some liberal dude with a video camera could exploit them for his Youtube moment and be a hero on liberal blogs. If Seder ha any balls he’d tried to get interviews from some of the people that were going to show up but didn’t because the knew the issue had been settled. If he had gotten something youtube-worthy out of that he might’ve had something.
I could probably announce on some blog somewhere that I was going to protest Obama’s vicious and brutal swatting of a fly and do it on some street in NYC and attract a larger crowd than 15 people, and that’s without notifying PETA of said event.
Finding some funny footage from those people wouldn’t be all that much of a challenge though, either.
Logic FAIL here, OW. No one shows, but the no one’s are teh funny and representative of conservatism and the Republican party. They somehow represented the base of the party that was pretty much done with the whole thing at that point.
Palin fans have never failed to be funny Dennis, some times its “funny haha” and sometimes its “smiling while simultaneously while stepping towards the door hoping that they do not decide to hunt us for sport funny”. Oliver does not always bring the political sometimes he brings the funny and this mob is damn funny.
What was that 7 dollar pen joke about? The fact that they have managed to associate paedophile priests and Palin together is also bizarro.
“Dennis”: “these 15 people that showed up at that rally” to get comedian David Letterman fired are the results of a LOT of screaming and teeth gnashing from the right wing blogosphere to push a non-scandal into the corporate main stream media.
YOU, “Dennis” were one of the right wingers that kept trying to make this an issue.
And the corporate media dutifully took the right wing’s instructions to cover the rally, they dutifully showed up to report on the expected ‘massive’ right wing protest, and the media ended up outnumbering the protesters.
I’d say those 15 right wing comedians (and they were funny, though not in the a way that reflected well on the right wing) should each get their 15 minutes of sought after fame.
But now that the right wingers war on jokes is funnier than the crass joke that they are at war with, now right wingers like “Dennis”, who has made a huge point of pushing it as a big scandal for, what, two weeks now? NOW “Dennis” wants Oliver to ignore it.
As Dana Carver as the “Church Lady” would say, “How conveeeenient.”
Too funny!-)
Dennis, get your own damn blog and quit whining about what Oliver posts if it bothers you so much.
Go ahead, impress us with your dittohead wit daily, then we can all come over and shit on your carpet and complain about your choice of topics, how’s that sound?
I love the question “who trained you? Alinsky? ACORN?”
YOU, “Dennis” were one of the right wingers that kept trying to make this an issue. News Reference
Newsie, I mean this in all sincerity. Are you really that stupid to think that if I truly wanted to keep this an issue, that I would choose this blog to accomplish that mission?
And what, do you think I was successful? Or something.
And gosh darn, how the heck would I know if I was or not, I mean, I don’t know….. ya think maybe I should ask for a show of hands and ask if this was on people’s minds because of a few of my posts, and not because it was in the news?
Help me out here, Newsie, I’m trying to follow your logic.
Looks like a few more advertisers dropped from Letterman’s show. Sooooo, should I get some credit for that, since maybe some of those companies might’ve logged on here and were shamed in to it by reading my posts here?
You slay me. You really, really do.
….get your own damn blog and quit whining about what Oliver posts if it bothers you so much.
Two words, Burn.
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Actually just a few more. I kinda think, as I suspect you do too, that taunts like ‘Bwahahaha’ and ‘The conservative base is a never ending gold mine of dumb’, and ‘Heck of a job Rush, Sarah, Glenn, Sean, Dick, Karl, Michael, etc.! Keep it up!”, is a bit of an invitation and call to conservatives to come on here and join the fray. I may be wrong on that, but when you only post to do the same, respond to the opposing views solely that is, it makes me wonder if you’re complaint is really sincere. Without fail almost, seems the people that complain about that the most are the same ones who frequently taunt with things like “Where’s so and so on this? Probably too afraid to show up.”
How much mileage are you going to try to get out of these 15 people that showed up at that rally, Oliver?
As much as I can get. You cons are a never ending source of comedy material, and now that you’re out of power we can laugh and laugh.
“How much mileage are you going to try to get out of these 15 people that showed up at that rally, Oliver?”
How much longer are you righties going to choose ‘tards like Palin as your heroes?
“How much longer are you righties going to choose ‘tards like Palin as your heroes?”
Palin is an idiot, not a tard. Try to have a little decorum.
You cons are a never ending source of comedy material, and now that you’re out of power we can laugh and laugh.
Ok, fair enough. I agree that the protest to fire Letterman was a bit on the silly side, but those people have about as much to do with me, what I believe in, or even what the bulk of the conservatives who post here are like far as I can tell, as the man in the moon. Just like, say, the PETA people, the wackier ones anyway, have to do with you and the future of the Democratic party. The purpose isn’t really so much to laugh at them, it’s really more to paint the picture that this is what all conservatives are really like. And that’s just a little on the deceptive side is all. But I guess it’s what the groupthink is thirsty for.
I’m thinking that maybe next time there’s an event like that anywhere close to me, I’ll grab my videocamera and go to it and seek out the Sam Seder types and start asking them questions. If they’re as easy to deconstruct, shame and made to look as silly as it is to do with News Reference here, I might have some really great footage.
Yeah Rudy, don’t you realize you’ve just insulted rat_bas and his whole family? Papa Leo, Mama Do, and the twins, Vanillacus and Dijonmus.
Dennis the Bigot: “How much mileage are you going to try to get out of these 15 people that showed up at that rally, Oliver?”
This from the guy who claimed this story wasn’t over and that it was growing.
Dennis the Bigot: “Ok, fair enough. I agree that the protest to fire Letterman was a bit on the silly side…”
Except before they happened you were cheering them on.
Dennis wishing Dems would be more sensitive to the cries of wing-nuts.
Delicious.
‘Newsie, I mean this in all sincerity. Are you really that stupid to think that if I truly wanted to keep this an issue, that I would choose this blog to accomplish that mission?’
I guess we’re all incredibly stupid not to recognize your initial outrage and subsequent innumerable posts on this topic which had the likes of you infuriated and indignant, as the obvious and blatant attempts to put this non-story to rest.
Is your latest tactic of insisting that OW is keeping the dead horse propped up with a further series of cryptic posts decrying how the Left won’t let it die meant to be vigorously hypocritical, or are we just too stupid to realize that when you say something 25 times or more, you are really only saying something once, and it’s to be inferred that your true meaning is really the opposite of what you actually post?
OR are you just immensely full of shit?
Dennis-
Let them have their fun with this. If they want to run five or more stories about this apolitical event, and use it to somehow justify that conservatives the nation wide are idiots, more power to them.
I mean, after all, we have kind of been spoiled in this regard, what with the plethora of absolute deranged fanatics that make up the Liberal core. With laughable fringe groups like PETA, Code Pink, 9/11 Truthers, and Green Peace running around, spewing an incessant supply of nonsensical rantings, finding material with which to lambaste the left has hardly been a difficult task.
I’ll take the right’s “base” over the left’s “base” (the PETA folks who think we shouldn’t kill flies) anyday.
“I’ll take the right’s “base” over the left’s “base” (the PETA folks who think we shouldn’t kill flies) any day.”
Oh my. You must have used a pogo stick, a hang glider, and a rocket pack to make that nonsensical finger pointing look over there at absolutely NOTHING leap.
It’s kind of sad in a scary “why won’t these Palin nuts just go away so I don’t have to say ridiculous things to defend them” way.
Dennis, June 18, 2009 at 6:43 pm
How much mileage are you going to try to get out of these 15 people that showed up at that rally, Oliver?
Not nearly as much as Reich wingers like you have gotten out of it, that’s for sure…
SaveFarris, June 19, 2009 at 6:34 am
I’ll take the right’s “base” over the left’s “base” (the PETA folks who think we shouldn’t kill flies) anyday.
So, you’d rather be with all the right wing domestic terrorists who are shooting liberals today instead of the PETA people who think we shouldn’t kill flies? Nice of you to finally admit that you’re a terrorist supporter.
why do you hate america?
the Fox viewers turned Palin cultists have no problem with Sean Hannity sucking up to Dog the Bounty Hunter and Mark Fuhrman. The n word is fine with them
You’ve got to admit, SaveFarris, that when it comes to street protests, PETA’s might not be as hilarious but they are certainly easier on the eyes.
OR are you just immensely full of shit?
Paging Dr. Occam – we need your razor.
Sorry, wrong tag, but it ended up kind of cool.
I could probably announce on some blog somewhere that I was going to protest Obama’s vicious and brutal swatting of a fly and do it on some street in NYC and attract a larger crowd than 15 people, and that’s without notifying PETA of said event.
I double dog dare you.
Dennis, I know you wish this story would go away because it really does show the wingnuts, Foxbots and Palindrones as the angry, irrational people that they are.
Ain’t gonna happen.
I’ll take the right’s “base” over the left’s “base” (the PETA folks who think we shouldn’t kill flies) anyday.
So Obama is not, as the wingnuts insist, a leftist?
“How much mileage are you going to try to get out of these 15 people that showed up at that rally, Oliver?”
ALL the mileage.
The purpose isn’t really so much to laugh at them,
Actually, it is.
when you say something 25 times or more, you are really only saying something once,
Keep saying it til it’s true, too.
Ivy, please tell me this person and this person are not you, because while those seem like very commendable and praiseworthy endeavors, the ‘neverending gold mine of dumb’ people so mocked by our host and nearly everyone else here would share your same sentiments for women and children as you do. They were upset about and defending young women.
Seriously, it would ruin my Father’s Day weekend knowing the same Ivy NYC in those links is the same one that just posted that.
The problem is, while both bases have their kooks, the GOP incessantly panders to the crazies. In fact they elect them to congress and the presidency.
Ivy NYC, to correct myself, those are commendable and praiseworthy endeavors, not just ’seem like’ that.
And I should’ve said ‘they were upset about Letterman’s attack on a young woman, and defending all women’.
The thought of one person’s statement so diametrically opposed to one’s actions, if true in this case, apparently has me all verklempt.
Right winger “Dennis”: “sentiments for women and children”
This coming from a fan of Republican leader Rush Limbaugh who attacked a 13 year old girl, called any woman that spoke her mind a “Feminazi”, has managed to alienate three ex-wives, and was caught bringing illegal viagra back from a noted sex-tourist destination.
And lets not forget the Republicans Presidential Candidate John McCain who also attacked an underage girl, betrayed his first wife, abandoned her children, bragged about his philandering, called his second wife the C*** word in public, and laughed when his female opponent was called the B**** word in public.
Republican Leaders = Bad For Women and Girls.
You can have all 15 of those people, Oliver. Especially if they live and vote in NY.
Heck, I’ll even throw in the 20 or so people who didn’t show up that were going to, too. As long as they still speak up for young women and against bullying, sexually suggestive comedians who demean them selectively like as Letterman did. Like a lot of other liberal bloggers and liberal journalists commendably did too.
I’m sorry, I always forget right winger “Dennis’s” reading comprehension problem. To help him out, I’ll bullet point this for him:
Republican Leaders = Bad For Women, Girls, and Children.
Republican leader Rush Limbaugh:
-> Attacked a 13 year old girl
-> Called any woman that spoke her mind a “Feminazi”
-> Alienated three ex-wives
-> Caught bringing illegal viagra back from a noted sex-tourist destination.
Republicans Presidential Candidate John McCain:
-> Attacked an underage girl
-> Betrayed his first wife
-> Abandoned her children
-> Bragged about his philandering
-> Insulted his second wife with the C*** word in public
-> Laughed when his female opponent was called the B**** word in public
Newsie, for taking up one small fraction of the total bandwidth you claim entitlement to here, I am told to get my own blog.
As to Republican leaders and women, two words. Bill and Clinton.
You fill in the rest.
But now we can add Cliff Shecter’s hyped charge to sell the few books he did to your voluminous capacity to recite liberal folklore and not-on-record hearsay. Surprised you didn’t Google ‘Cliff Schecter + c**t’ and link it here to let everyone do their own digging or else just assume you knew what you were talking about.
Nope Dennis, she/they are not me. Guess I should chnage my handle, huh? I don’t have a Twitter account. I have enough people bothering me as it is.
There, a new handle that more reflects the person/goddess/snark champion that I am. What, you thought I’d actually use my power for GOOD?
There, a handle that more reflects the goddess/snark champion that I am. You didn’t think I’d actually use my power for GOOD, did you? Ain’t how I roll, baby.
McCain didn’t stop at someone else’s daughter either.
Nope Dennis, she/they are not me. Guess I should chnage my handle, huh?
Well thank goodness, Ivy. At least I can enjoy my weekend now. I try hard to figure you guys out and I have to be honest, that one would’ve set me back quite a bit.
McCain didn’t stop at someone else’s daughter either.
Duros-
Urban legend
The girl who supposedly wrote this does not even exist. And ask yourself this, if it were even remotely true, don’t you think the two people most likely to traffic in this type of liberal folklore, Cliff Schecter and News Reference, wouldn’t already be all over this? Don’t you think Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow would’ve had this woman on their show, that is, if she did exist.
Dude. C’mon.
The girl who supposedly wrote this does not even exist.
Not what it says at the bottom.
Don’t you think Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow would’ve had this woman on their show, that is, if she did exist.
Not if the conservative Media decided to sit on it!
But yes, it is unsubstantiated. My tin foil hat keeps falling off.
Turns out, for anyone caring to take an honest look at this, that the group being ridiculed was in no way even close to being a Palin crowd or even remote akin to what this blog is so fondly likes to refer to as ‘the conservative base’.
Inside the Letterman/Palin Flap
–John Ziegler
The small crowd was splintered by numerous members of the news media who were clearly dedicated to interviewing the craziest people they could find to represent “all” the protesters. One guy (later determined to be a plant from a satellite radio show) screamed and carried on like a lunatic. Things only get worse from there.
I immediately recognized that some of the people the owner of fire-david-letterman.com (a guy in Nashville, of all places) had put in charge of organizing the event were the same individuals who had royally screwed me in a NYC screening of my film originally intended for the “PUMA” organization (a pro-Hillary faction that I soon learned was mostly full of complete lunatics with racist and man-hating tendencies who had absolutely no ability to get people to any event of any kind). Now I’m sure we’re doomed. …
So, PUMA’s and plants. Yes, in short, nut-cases. A veritable gold mine of dumb.
Oh, well, it’s John Zeigler, so it must be true and unbiased.
After you post of a fictitious person’s fictitious letter, Duros???
Seriously, do some of the people in those videos not bear a great deal of resemblance to some of the PUMA crazies from last summer? Not that all the PUMA’s were crazy, but some of them did make for some pretty good entertainment. And if not and they were some of Ziegler’s friends, would he just say “sorry guys, I’m going to label you as crazies and PUMA’s, but I’ll make it all up to you later.”, like it was Obama and Rev. Wright or something?
Absolutely. There isn’t one person in that video that has a cogent point. I could definitely see some sour-grapes PUMA’s still skittering around in the dark. That doesn’t make Zeigler all Mr. Truthy now.
like it was Obama and Rev. Wright or something?
Not sure what that means, but I smell misdirection.
As to Republican leaders and women, two words. Bill and Clinton.
You fill in the rest.
Glad to. Bill Clinton had moral failings. He was impeached for telling a lie of such little consequence that anyone else would have laughed along with the judge who threw the charges out, a lie that had zero effect on the country or even on the legal matter at hand.
Meanwhile, Newt Gingrich was squiring his mistress Callista Bisek around openly while still married to his second wife, and persecuting Clinton for the doing the same thing, albeit more discreetly. And John Ensign was proclaiming along with the rest of the Promise Keepers that he was making a promise to God, and that Bill Clinton should resign the presidency.
Excellent call, and thanks for the opportunity to point out that Bill Clinton didn’t make any claim to exceptional morality. The fact that he was persecuted by identical sinners who spent $%65M for a not guilty verdict in a laughable “crime” shows that Clinton’s persecutors were morally bankrupt to the point where Clinton becomes the good guy.
The problem is, while both bases have their kooks, the GOP incessantly panders to the crazies. In fact they elect them to congress and the presidency.
As opposed to, what, Democrats? Surely you jest. Here are two kooks off the top of my head:
Former Democrat Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/10/3/0057/38473/886/618469
And Rep. Maxine Waters:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFvnL3npQgY
Here’s another fun Waters video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxPzxTAOjgg&feature=fvw
If documentarians want to interview kooks and idiots they simply have to go to Capitol Hill.
And what percentage of liberal crazies are they pandering to, Colin?
See, we KNOW they’re nuts.
Say what you want about Clinton, he’s still married to his child’s mother.
The fact that he was persecuted by identical sinners who spent $%65M for a not guilty verdict in a laughable “crime” shows that Clinton’s persecutors were morally bankrupt to the point where Clinton becomes the good guy.– Repack Rider
Gonna have to send that one back for an incomplete, Repack. Not sure Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey or Juanita Brodderick would quite share your sentiments about him being the good guy. Not sure the Arkansas judge who suspended his law license for five years, or the US Supreme Court who suspended him and was to disbar him from that court too before he ended up resigning might disagree who on just the morally bankrupt person was in those matters.
But your nice whitewashing aside, I was responding to another fabricator here in News Reference in that he seemed to be making the charge that if you were a Republican, you had no right to comment on David Letterman’s cruel jokes to women. His tortured logic would suggest that none of us has a right to speak up about anything to do with sexual transgressions by anybody, or at least none of us that belongs to a certain political party. I’m not sure how who was worse between Bill Clinton and John McCain enters into that argument of his, but it’s one he as some of fetish about since he keeps coming back to it time after time. Somehow his favorite foil, Rush Limbaugh gets wedged in there too.
The mind boggles.
Colin: “As opposed to, what, Democrats? Surely you jest. Here are two kooks off the top of my head:
Former Democrat Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney:”
Umm… Former. Do you know what former means?
Fucking idiot.
I don’t need to read your links, as you are clearly stupid.
Umm… Former. Do you know what former means?
Not to be rude, but if Colin would pardon me for answering a question directed toward him before he does, Mr. Strategy, I’d like to take a stab at it.
My interpretation of the word in this case would be that ‘former’ Democrat Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney would mean she was a Democrat Congresswoman in the past. That she is no longer a Democrat Congresswoman. Since she was defeated in her Congressional district’s Democratic primary in 2006, she left the Democratic party and subsequently ran as the Green Party candidate for president in last year election.
I hope that helps. If I can be of any further assistance in the future, please let me know.
Sincerely,
Dennis
Morally bankrupt right winger “Dennis” decides that an offensive joke by a comedian is a high crime.
But “Dennis” can’t find his high horse to speak out against his Republican Presidential Candidate for his attack of a young girl
“Dennis” can’t find his moral high ground to call out his Republican Presidential Candidate for his betrayal of his first wife and the abandonment of her children.
“Dennis” can’t find his shrill moralizing voice to call out his Republican Presidential Candidate for his verbal abuse of his wife.
And that doesn’t even scratch right winger “Dennis’s” reprehensible defense of the misogynistic Republican thug Rush Limbaugh, who Republican Dick Cheney elevates above Republican Colin Powell.
Your contemptible moral bankruptcy is showing, “Dennis”.
Dennis the Bigot: “Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney would mean she was a Democrat Congresswoman in the past.
…
Since she was defeated in her Congressional district’s Democratic primary in 2006…”
Exactly. So when Colin brings her up as an example of a ‘Democratic Crazy’ that is being ‘embraced by the party’, the fact that she was beaten in a primary sort of proves otherwise.
But thank you for ripping Colin apart so effectively.
See how easy that is when you have the facts on your side?
Exactly. So when Colin brings her up as an example of a ‘Democratic Crazy’ that is being ‘embraced by the party’, the fact that she was beaten in a primary sort of proves otherwise. CSS
For once, Strowbridge, I’ll have to give you kudos on that one. I went to bed last night wondering how you’d manage to weasel out of that one, and I have to admit that was a little more inventive than I expected. Almost Clintonian, actually.
Since you didn’t highlight Colin’s example of a ‘Democratic Crazy’ that is being ‘embraced by the party’ when you ripped him for not knowing what ‘former’ means, nor even hint that she was no longer a Democrat, it even almost made your inventiveness somewhat believable.
So when Colin highlighted and responded to Oliver’s comment “Problem is, while both bases have their kooks, the GOP incessantly panders to the crazies. In fact they elect them to congress and the presidency.’ by saying
“As opposed to, what, Democrats? Surely you jest. Here are two kooks off the top of my head:
Former Democrat Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney:”
there was absolutely nothing incorrect about it. Former Democratic Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney, a kook, was elected to Congress, as a Democrat. By Democrats.
Again though, the dishonesty and the complete inability to admit obvious errors was to be expected, so I won’t beat that dead horse, but I did manage to chuckle on your craftiness.
Your contemptible moral bankruptcy is showing, “Dennis”. –Old News Reference
Newsie, in humorous keeping of CSS preferred theme of the use of the word ‘former’, I’ll try to break this down into terms you can understand along the lines of the current and the past.
What David Letterman said is in the news now. The silly topic of this current thread is about the PUMA crazies who protested David Letterman’s highly offensive, bullying and misogynistic ‘jokes’, (or as others would put it, “at worst, a poorly constructed joke”).
What you bring up are variously assorted, irrelevant tidbits of information, mostly liberal folklore and dubiously unsourced charges from your diseased mind’s way-back machine, that is to say, way, way in the past, and now expect me to expound on them to your heart’s content, when I’ve already charitably done so. Far more than any of them merited as it pertains to the here and now.
None of those past irrelevant charges, whether true or not, has anything to do with Letterman’s offenses, nor do they excuse his behavior, and in no way do they bar anyone from the right to criticize what Letterman did. And I’m just really surprised I have to be telling that to a committed far-left, bleeding heart liberal such as yourself.
Tell you what, if you can convince our host to put up a thread on Rush Limbaugh from 1992, with a transcript and a video of Rush Limbaugh’s video monitor erroneously bringing up a picture of Chelsea Clinton and his multiple apologies immediately afterward, I’d be happy to indulge you.
Or if you can convince him to put up a thread about Cliff Schecter’s unsourced-by-anyone-on-record, highly dubious charge about a certain C word he used, I’d be glad to oblige.
Or if you can get perhaps coax him into putting up the video of the McCain supporter who called McCain’s friend Hillary Clinton a bitch and McCain’s muted chuckle, I’d be glad to discuss all the highly misogynistic things hurled at Hillary Clinton during that campaign. But I’d have to warn you ahead of time, the lion’s share of those weren’t coming from the McCain camp, they were coming from Hillary’s future boss’ side, so my comments would be likewise proportional.
So right winger “Dennis” brings up a Democratic candidate who was rejected by Democratic voters in a Democratic Primary to prove ? the opposite of his point.
“Dennis” is a gift to the left.
Keep talking, “Dennis”. Seriously, keep talking, the ‘left’ loves you.
I didn’t bring her up, anti-Semitic piece of shit News Reference. Colin did. I responded to CSS’ idiocy.
Former Democratic Congresswoman and long-time kook Cynthia McKinney was defeated by Democrats and Republicans in a largely red state, to be more accurate. But she was a kook and a 9-11 truther, among many other weird things, when she was elected to Congress, by Democrats, in 2004. So, she was not rejected by Democratic voters that year. One could accurately say she ‘was embraced by Democratic voters’.
Proving your idiocy and your blatant lying is neither a challenge nor fun anymore, News Reference. If you are so certain you are on the just and moral and right side of things, I am baffled why you feel such a need to print lies, rumors, and distortions as often as you do. When you are shown to be the liar you are, with verifiable proof, you just move on to the next lie and run that up the flagpole. Kind of amazing, really.
So you’re accusing me of using Republican tactics?
Or you’re accusing me of using your tactics?
Perhaps instead of expecting your rules to apply to everyone but yourself, “Dennis”, you should first live up to your own rules.
But I’d rather you just be who you are, “Dennis”, a perfect illustration of the right wing’s dishonesty, duplicity, and hypocrisy.
Started to respond, Newsie, but you’re a blatant anti-Semite and you don’t deserve the dignity of honest discourse here.
There should be something that’s the equivalent of “Godwin’s Law” that sums up a rhetorical attack that’s often used by right wingers to stop the conversation: The “Anti-Semitic” attack.
The irony of right winger “Dennis’s” attack (other than his attempt at distraction) is that it’s done by someone (”Dennis”) who defends anti-Semitic attacks.
The difference between what you did and Godwin’s Law, New Ref is that Godwin’s rule doesn’t say that someone will likely reveal themselves to be a proponent of Nazism or Hilter, just that a charge of that sort is likelier to be made the longer the discussion goes on.
What you said was a clear and unmistakeable reference to the neocon tendencies of Michael Savage and that by drawing attention to and highlighting his birth name along with calling him a right-wing extremist, you were clear in your intent.
Calling you out on that anti-Semitic outburst had nothing to do with Godwin’s Law or anything like it. It’s nothing more than a vain attempt of yours to weasel out of the fact that you are an Jew neocon-hating hypocrite who is just too fucking stupid apparently to remember that he leveled the exact same charge at me just this past week regarding Jon Stewart, Only apparently when you called me that in reference to him, you had not even the first fucking clue what you were talking about.
No, Denny, the two are not mutually exclusive. One can be Jewish and a Neo-con asshat at the same time.
Conversely, one can be critical of one’s neo-con asshattery without being critical of one’s religious persuasion.
I highlight Michael “Savage” Weiner’s given name not as an attack of his religion, but as a showcase of what a fraud he is, pretending to be something he is not, or perhaps pretending NOT to be something he IS.
I get that this is your way of retaliating for the criticism you
received over the Jon Stewart discussion, and your point is well taken.
Liberals use Savage’s full name because we hate him. You used Stewarts full name because you hate him. I guess that makes us even, yes?
Was it this past week? I thought it was during the Stewart-Cramer War of 2009.
It was the great Stewart-Cramer War of 2009 when it started, or at least the first shot was fired then, but News Ref called me that just this past week. Like so many things with him, I don’t think he knew what he was talking about or even aware of that though, because he wasn’t around in the early days of that war to know.
You and I are evens, Duros; I never thought you were serious about it in the first place- truthfully, I didn’t think anyone was sincere about it, even Southern Strategy.
But News Reference’s reference was clearly an anti-Semitic slur to Michael Savage as a neo-con Jew, no question.
I agree with what you said above, Duros, but not as it pertains to Newsie here, and I’m not just saying that for the opportunism. His mask slipped this time and he knows it. I don’t hate Stewart. I have fewer bones to pick with him than I would Savage, and I watch Stewart a lot more than I listen to Savage, which is like next to never. And I don’t care one rip about his being Jewish, or born Jewish or anything he believes along those lines, and again, that is not the case with News Ref. here. I just have thoughts about people changing their names, but that’s for another day.
And Duros, I’ve gone over this thread that OW posted a while ago about Michael Savage and the UK’s excluding him from entry there.
In defense of Michael Savage
Go there and do a search for ‘Weiner’. Read News Reference’s numerous posts there and tell me your opinion and whether he’s being sincere or not when he claims ignorance about Savage being Jewish, or Weiner being a Jewish name. Notice how often and insistently he equates him to the right-wing extremist, neo-con Jew theme when it comes to “Savage” Weiner.
It’s revealing, Duros, and well worth the time. He’s a fraud.
Sorry, here.
Umm… Former. Do you know what former means?
Fucking idiot.
I don’t need to read your links, as you are clearly stupid.
Ah, the famous tolerance of the left.
In any case let’s revisit was I was responding to. Oliver said:
The problem is, while both bases have their kooks, the GOP incessantly panders to the crazies. In fact they elect them to congress and the presidency.
Cynthia McKinney was elected to Congress. Several times. As wikipedia says:
In the 1992 election, McKinney was elected in the newly re-created 11th District,[2] and was re-elected in 1994. When her district was redrawn and renumbered due to the Supreme Court of the United States ruling in Miller v. Johnson,[1][3][4] McKinney was easily elected from the new 4th District in the 1996 election, and was re-elected twice without substantive opposition.
McKinney was defeated by Denise Majette in the 2002 Democratic primary, in part due to Republican crossover voting in Georgia’s open primary election, which permits anyone from any party to vote in any party primary,[5] and in part due to her “controversial profile, which included a suggestion that president George W. Bush knew in advance of the September 11 attacks.”[5]
So Republicans evidently tried to bail the Democrats out from re-electing this nut, but then she was elected yet again to the House in 2004.
In any case my point stands that she was clearly a kook and yet your team continued to re-elect her. The “former” has no relevance.
Come to think of it, I’m pretty sure that if I could get C.S. Strowbridge and News Reference in a room and interview them as representative of the political left that it would put the Letterman protesters to shame.
Heh, so “Dennis” the right wing the defender of the racist, misogynistic, anti-Semitic, bigot Michael “Savage” Weiner* has decided to try the ‘I know you are but what am I’ defense.
* A German name
http://google.com/search?q=Weiner+German+name
Yoi and double yoi. So what?
Because it’s German in derivation doesn’t mean it’s not a Jewish family name.
You don’t play dumb very well. And at this point you don’t research very well, either, especially for an idiot named News Reference. Decency should force your peers to demand you change handles, I swear.
Go one step further than your usual 2-3 key word Google searches and look up some the people with the same name and find out how many of them list Jewish as their religion. On the first link that pops up, the Wiki for the name, the second person listed is quite recognizable in Democratic NY Congressman Anthony Weiner, who ironically was at one time Jon Stewart’s roommate. And also ironically from that article, roommates at the time Stewart changed his name.
Also, as a good start to your badly needed sensitivity training, you might want to read this article by by one Bernard Weiner, posted in the Democratic Underground: Anti-Semitism and the “New Jews” and scroll down to where he addresses “Anti-Semitism from The Left“.
Maybe since you love Google so much, try these two key words together…“anti-semitism + the left” and read all about yourself. Or read the comments alone in the article I linked to on Anthony Weiner. They sound just like you, mein freund..
Jay Tea had you pegged exactly well over a month ago on this with your obsession with neo-con Jews and the writers at Commentary. And now you’re acting like the doe-eyed, innocent little schoolgirl, like this is the first time you’ve heard anyone call you on it.
You fikken dummkopf.
“Dennis”, the increasingly unstable right wing stalker, thinks that his defense of Michael “Savage” Weiner’s insane anti-Semitic racist rant is “Dennis’s” defense to ? call other people anti-Semites?
Could you be any more insane?
Do you always project “Dennis” or do you ever have self-reflective moments where you feel shame for your anti-Semitic and racist and misogynistic beliefs? Perhaps your psychologist has tried to talk these things out with you?
And do you read the malignant insanity of Commentary Magazine writers? Do you even understand how anti-Semitic their writing is? Or do you really not even understand what the word Semite means? Is it just another group of others for you to hate? Or is it just a word you know can be hurled as an insult?
After all you’re the idiot that didn’t even know that the name “Weiner” is a German name until I pointed it out to you.
Just because your both stupid and clearly unbalanced doesn’t mean that if you keep repeating your ignorant falsehoods they eventually become magically true (at least for anyone outside of the voices in your head).
And now you’ve devolved into sexist insults?
Good lord. How do you know I’m not a Hassidic Jewish woman?
You are the one who defends an explicit attack on non-Christian women. Why do you hate Jews and women, “Dennis”?
Perhaps you could make a list of all of the groups of people you hate so that I don’t have to figure them out one by one.
So far you’ve indicated that you hate Jews, women, gays, and unmarried people. Am I missing anyone?
You argue just like, CS Strowbridge; incoherent, distorted and rambling. A sign of a weak case, and a surefire sign of guilt, while being too chickenshit to admit your biases.
I knew that Weiner was German. My name is German, and there are many German Jews with the same last name as mine. I know what I’m talking about, and I never gave any indication at all I didn’t know it was a German surname.
Your making the case that the name was German, and therefore not Jewish, is bizarre. I honestly thought it was an act, that you were actually trying to be that stupid. More likely, you think other people are that stupid, apparently. If that’s the case, that might explain why you post links to your self-generated Google searches as somehow proof to the last absurd claim you made in response to another commenter’s irrefutable evidence to the contrary.
Come to think of it, I’m pretty sure that if I could get C.S. Strowbridge and News Reference in a room and interview them as representative of the political left that it would put the Letterman protesters to shame.– Colin
Truer words, Colin. I’d even provide the seed money to get a campaign started to finance that interview. Along with the video camera.
Right winger stalker “Dennis”: “I’d even provide the seed money….”
You should save you money and spend it on extra therapy sessions with your psychologist and whatever medication(s) they prescribe, “Dennis”.
(Though remember, my support for national healthcare includes providing government support to provide for your mental health sessions and medication).
And remember “Dennis”, stalking is a crime.