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		<title>By: News Reference</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/18/liberal-media-no-liberals-allowed/#comment-158240</link>
		<dc:creator>News Reference</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 06:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talking about Republican Dick Cheney&#039;s war profiteering corp Halliburton in a thread about &quot;liberal media&quot; reminds me of how often Republican Dick Cheney&#039;s favorite media &quot;tool&quot;, Tim Russert helped lies US into the Republican&#039;s Iraq War.

Republican Dick Cheney knew that he could &#039;control the message&#039; through corporate GE/NBC stenographer Tim Russert.

And corporate GE replaced Republican Dick Cheney&#039;s mouthpiece with Republican Karl Rove&#039;s dance partner.

Conservative corporate media controls the majority of media communications in America and always has.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talking about Republican Dick Cheney&#8217;s war profiteering corp Halliburton in a thread about &#8220;liberal media&#8221; reminds me of how often Republican Dick Cheney&#8217;s favorite media &#8220;tool&#8221;, Tim Russert helped lies US into the Republican&#8217;s Iraq War.</p>
<p>Republican Dick Cheney knew that he could &#8216;control the message&#8217; through corporate GE/NBC stenographer Tim Russert.</p>
<p>And corporate GE replaced Republican Dick Cheney&#8217;s mouthpiece with Republican Karl Rove&#8217;s dance partner.</p>
<p>Conservative corporate media controls the majority of media communications in America and always has.</p>
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		<title>By: Amused Observer</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/18/liberal-media-no-liberals-allowed/#comment-158231</link>
		<dc:creator>Amused Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 04:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jaim,
Thanks for the tip on flinging bullshit.

Study up on a concept called sarcasm.  That post was directed to someone who &quot;got&quot; it not you.  There is another term you could look up, &quot;pulling your leg&quot;.

Did you notice the flights of fancy  about Halliburton and GM?  You are such a tool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jaim,<br />
Thanks for the tip on flinging bullshit.</p>
<p>Study up on a concept called sarcasm.  That post was directed to someone who &#8220;got&#8221; it not you.  There is another term you could look up, &#8220;pulling your leg&#8221;.</p>
<p>Did you notice the flights of fancy  about Halliburton and GM?  You are such a tool.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaim</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/18/liberal-media-no-liberals-allowed/#comment-158212</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 00:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;More proof that corporate America controls the media and corporate America couldn’t possibly creat an industry that didn’t favor corporate America.&quot;

Back up there, old man.  First you said it was libs who run the media, now you say it&#039;s corporate America?  The majority of CEO&#039;s are Republican.  Not that anyone expects logic from you, but just wanted to point out that you&#039;re flinging bullshit yet again.

The American media is indeed &quot;pro-corporate,&quot; or better yet pro-profit.  This clearly makes it align with the GOP on most issues, the GOP being very much the party of corporate control.  It doesn&#039;t play out that way all the time, just most of the time.  Olbermann gets to keep his job because he gets decent ratings.  Smart journalists like Froomkin get fired because his truth-telling (both before and during Obama) was a little too much for his Conservative masters at The Washington Post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;More proof that corporate America controls the media and corporate America couldn’t possibly creat an industry that didn’t favor corporate America.&#8221;</p>
<p>Back up there, old man.  First you said it was libs who run the media, now you say it&#8217;s corporate America?  The majority of CEO&#8217;s are Republican.  Not that anyone expects logic from you, but just wanted to point out that you&#8217;re flinging bullshit yet again.</p>
<p>The American media is indeed &#8220;pro-corporate,&#8221; or better yet pro-profit.  This clearly makes it align with the GOP on most issues, the GOP being very much the party of corporate control.  It doesn&#8217;t play out that way all the time, just most of the time.  Olbermann gets to keep his job because he gets decent ratings.  Smart journalists like Froomkin get fired because his truth-telling (both before and during Obama) was a little too much for his Conservative masters at The Washington Post.</p>
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		<title>By: SFC B</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/18/liberal-media-no-liberals-allowed/#comment-158152</link>
		<dc:creator>SFC B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;...it tripped up the filter and didn’t post (again).&lt;/blockquote&gt;Again?  Oh my God... you mean the stuff you put out NR is only the stuff that makes it through the filter?  You try to put MORE spam out there?

Thank you Mr. Willis for putting a limit on comment length.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8230;it tripped up the filter and didn’t post (again).</p></blockquote>
<p>Again?  Oh my God&#8230; you mean the stuff you put out NR is only the stuff that makes it through the filter?  You try to put MORE spam out there?</p>
<p>Thank you Mr. Willis for putting a limit on comment length.</p>
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		<title>By: Amused Observer</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/18/liberal-media-no-liberals-allowed/#comment-158151</link>
		<dc:creator>Amused Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Farris,
Missed it by 5 points and 4 years. 

More proof that corporate America controls the media and corporate America couldn&#039;t possibly creat an industry that didn&#039;t favor corporate America.  

Did you know that Dick Cheney and his buddies at Halliburton secretly control the media.  They used thier power to spread lies about the Iraquis and cheerleadered us into the war so they could engage in obscene war profiteering.

If only GM had put more effort into thier corporate newsletter we wouldn&#039;t be in the sorry condition we are today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Farris,<br />
Missed it by 5 points and 4 years. </p>
<p>More proof that corporate America controls the media and corporate America couldn&#8217;t possibly creat an industry that didn&#8217;t favor corporate America.  </p>
<p>Did you know that Dick Cheney and his buddies at Halliburton secretly control the media.  They used thier power to spread lies about the Iraquis and cheerleadered us into the war so they could engage in obscene war profiteering.</p>
<p>If only GM had put more effort into thier corporate newsletter we wouldn&#8217;t be in the sorry condition we are today.</p>
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		<title>By: News Reference</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/18/liberal-media-no-liberals-allowed/#comment-158091</link>
		<dc:creator>News Reference</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 12:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heh, you were saved from my 15,000 word reply, &quot;SaveFarris&quot;, it tripped up the filter and didn&#039;t post (again).

lol :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heh, you were saved from my 15,000 word reply, &#8220;SaveFarris&#8221;, it tripped up the filter and didn&#8217;t post (again).</p>
<p>lol <img src='http://www.oliverwillis.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: News Reference</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/18/liberal-media-no-liberals-allowed/#comment-158086</link>
		<dc:creator>News Reference</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 11:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If right wing extremist &quot;Amused Observer&quot; is getting paid by someone to troll this site I wouldn&#039;t think they are getting their money&#039;s worth.

As a representative of the right wing, &quot;Amused Observer&quot; has alternately expressed sympathy for terrorists (literally), defended blatant racism (literally), and defended misogyny and various other bigoted and hateful attitudes.

Right winger &quot;Amused Observer&quot; also repeatedly illustrates the right wing&#039;s unfortunate reliance on deceit and duplicity as the right wing&#039;s central argumentation technique.

The right wing, and especially the Republican Party, doesn&#039;t seem helped by being represented by vicious, dishonest, hateful people that support terrorism.

But perhaps I&#039;m wrong. The right wing Ku Klux Klan movement was remarkably powerful in the 1930&#039;s. Even now a sitting Republican Senator is noted to have been a fan of the KKK and Republican Party members can&#039;t seem to go a week without saying or doing something shockingly bigoted.

Perhaps that&#039;s the right wingers complaints about the mainstream media: That the media isn&#039;t vicious, dishonest, and hateful &lt;i&gt;enough&lt;/i&gt;.

Those characteristics certainly typify the extreme right&#039;s preferred media corporation: Rupert Murdoch and his FOX Republican channel.

Murdoch&#039;s FOX Republican channel is not only vicious, dishonest, and hateful, it&#039;s also gone beyond it&#039;s regular tactic of using fear as a political weapon and is increasingly pushing the envelope of encouraging terrorism.

Considering how many corporations pay Murdoch to advertise, perhaps Murdoch&#039;s promotion of terrorism has it&#039;s own sick capitalist logic.

Terrorism sells, and whatever sells, right wingers support.

Vicious circle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If right wing extremist &#8220;Amused Observer&#8221; is getting paid by someone to troll this site I wouldn&#8217;t think they are getting their money&#8217;s worth.</p>
<p>As a representative of the right wing, &#8220;Amused Observer&#8221; has alternately expressed sympathy for terrorists (literally), defended blatant racism (literally), and defended misogyny and various other bigoted and hateful attitudes.</p>
<p>Right winger &#8220;Amused Observer&#8221; also repeatedly illustrates the right wing&#8217;s unfortunate reliance on deceit and duplicity as the right wing&#8217;s central argumentation technique.</p>
<p>The right wing, and especially the Republican Party, doesn&#8217;t seem helped by being represented by vicious, dishonest, hateful people that support terrorism.</p>
<p>But perhaps I&#8217;m wrong. The right wing Ku Klux Klan movement was remarkably powerful in the 1930&#8217;s. Even now a sitting Republican Senator is noted to have been a fan of the KKK and Republican Party members can&#8217;t seem to go a week without saying or doing something shockingly bigoted.</p>
<p>Perhaps that&#8217;s the right wingers complaints about the mainstream media: That the media isn&#8217;t vicious, dishonest, and hateful <i>enough</i>.</p>
<p>Those characteristics certainly typify the extreme right&#8217;s preferred media corporation: Rupert Murdoch and his FOX Republican channel.</p>
<p>Murdoch&#8217;s FOX Republican channel is not only vicious, dishonest, and hateful, it&#8217;s also gone beyond it&#8217;s regular tactic of using fear as a political weapon and is increasingly pushing the envelope of encouraging terrorism.</p>
<p>Considering how many corporations pay Murdoch to advertise, perhaps Murdoch&#8217;s promotion of terrorism has it&#8217;s own sick capitalist logic.</p>
<p>Terrorism sells, and whatever sells, right wingers support.</p>
<p>Vicious circle.</p>
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		<title>By: SaveFarris</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/18/liberal-media-no-liberals-allowed/#comment-158085</link>
		<dc:creator>SaveFarris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 10:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AO, it was Evan Thomas of Newsweek (during *Kerry&#039;s* run) who said media bias was worth about 10 points.  

I also find it amusing that David Gregory having a little fun AT A PARTY automatically disqualified him forever as a credible journalist, but Greenwald&#039;s &quot;on the job&quot; wholesale creation of different identities, each used in support of the other in order to validate whatever point  he was making, is just a triffling   incident that should now be forgotten.

I&#039;m starting to think NewsReference may be somehow biologically related to Mr. Greenwald.  He rarely stays on point, pushing whatever story he wants to talk about instead of the topic at hand, handles criticism poorly, and (most importantly) takes 15,000 words to say what could be said in 50.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AO, it was Evan Thomas of Newsweek (during *Kerry&#8217;s* run) who said media bias was worth about 10 points.  </p>
<p>I also find it amusing that David Gregory having a little fun AT A PARTY automatically disqualified him forever as a credible journalist, but Greenwald&#8217;s &#8220;on the job&#8221; wholesale creation of different identities, each used in support of the other in order to validate whatever point  he was making, is just a triffling   incident that should now be forgotten.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m starting to think NewsReference may be somehow biologically related to Mr. Greenwald.  He rarely stays on point, pushing whatever story he wants to talk about instead of the topic at hand, handles criticism poorly, and (most importantly) takes 15,000 words to say what could be said in 50.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaim</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/18/liberal-media-no-liberals-allowed/#comment-158083</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 10:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Operating from a false sense of perspective doesn’t make you or your movement more effective.&quot;

I&#039;m quite happy with how we did in 2006 and 2008, and will most likely do in 2010 and 2012 while you babble on and wet yourself over the LIBRUL MEDIA OMG as Kristol, Krauthammer, and many other neocons and wing-nuts continue to get columns published in places like The New York Times and The Washington Post.  Not just published as guests, but as regularly paid op-ed writers.

Don&#039;t wear those dentures down too much with your teeth-gnashing.

As for Froomkin, it would kind of funny if he got picked up by the NYT.  Trading Froomkin for Kristol, sort of?  We know who&#039;ll get the better end of that deal.  I think he&#039;d do alright blogging independently, but it&#039;d be nice for him to continue to have the same press credentials/access as before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Operating from a false sense of perspective doesn’t make you or your movement more effective.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m quite happy with how we did in 2006 and 2008, and will most likely do in 2010 and 2012 while you babble on and wet yourself over the LIBRUL MEDIA OMG as Kristol, Krauthammer, and many other neocons and wing-nuts continue to get columns published in places like The New York Times and The Washington Post.  Not just published as guests, but as regularly paid op-ed writers.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t wear those dentures down too much with your teeth-gnashing.</p>
<p>As for Froomkin, it would kind of funny if he got picked up by the NYT.  Trading Froomkin for Kristol, sort of?  We know who&#8217;ll get the better end of that deal.  I think he&#8217;d do alright blogging independently, but it&#8217;d be nice for him to continue to have the same press credentials/access as before.</p>
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		<title>By: Amused Observer</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/18/liberal-media-no-liberals-allowed/#comment-158079</link>
		<dc:creator>Amused Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 08:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Relax Jaim,
Your concern for my health is probably a little less than sincere.  Your grammer slips when you&#039;re rattled.  You can claim anything you want, it&#039;s not like you are open to reason.  If you want to think that the media isn&#039;t biased towards the left go ahead.  Operating from a false sense of perspective doesn&#039;t make you or your movement more effective.  BTW I can slam a few lines towards Ollieland anytime I want unless I&#039;m actually out in the field.  Even then I could but I&#039;m not really a thumbtexting sort of guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Relax Jaim,<br />
Your concern for my health is probably a little less than sincere.  Your grammer slips when you&#8217;re rattled.  You can claim anything you want, it&#8217;s not like you are open to reason.  If you want to think that the media isn&#8217;t biased towards the left go ahead.  Operating from a false sense of perspective doesn&#8217;t make you or your movement more effective.  BTW I can slam a few lines towards Ollieland anytime I want unless I&#8217;m actually out in the field.  Even then I could but I&#8217;m not really a thumbtexting sort of guy.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaim</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/18/liberal-media-no-liberals-allowed/#comment-158076</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 07:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What part of &quot;Judith Miller&quot; don&#039;t you understand?  The so-called &quot;liberal&quot; press cheer-leaded us into a war on false pretenses.

If anything, the media tends to be pro-corporation above all else since it&#039;s own by, obviously, corporations.

And WaPo getting rid of Froomkin is just another in a long line of signs that the paper became a right-wing rag long ago.  The employ neocons like Krauthammer and Kristol for God&#039;s sake.  Since when did they pay Michael Moore or Howard Dean to write for them on a regular and on-going basis?

See, wing-nuts you can&#039;t deal with the reality here -- the majority of Americans support Obama and hate the GOP.  So you go looking for these weird explanations about media mind-control and so on.

Take your Geritol and learn to deal, old man.  The 1970&#039;s are over.

(And btw, are you getting paid to troll this site these days?  I notice you&#039;re on pretty much 24/7.  Get your rest, gramps.  Go catch Matlock and take a little nappy-poo before you get a heart-attack.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What part of &#8220;Judith Miller&#8221; don&#8217;t you understand?  The so-called &#8220;liberal&#8221; press cheer-leaded us into a war on false pretenses.</p>
<p>If anything, the media tends to be pro-corporation above all else since it&#8217;s own by, obviously, corporations.</p>
<p>And WaPo getting rid of Froomkin is just another in a long line of signs that the paper became a right-wing rag long ago.  The employ neocons like Krauthammer and Kristol for God&#8217;s sake.  Since when did they pay Michael Moore or Howard Dean to write for them on a regular and on-going basis?</p>
<p>See, wing-nuts you can&#8217;t deal with the reality here &#8212; the majority of Americans support Obama and hate the GOP.  So you go looking for these weird explanations about media mind-control and so on.</p>
<p>Take your Geritol and learn to deal, old man.  The 1970&#8217;s are over.</p>
<p>(And btw, are you getting paid to troll this site these days?  I notice you&#8217;re on pretty much 24/7.  Get your rest, gramps.  Go catch Matlock and take a little nappy-poo before you get a heart-attack.)</p>
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		<title>By: Amused Observer</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/18/liberal-media-no-liberals-allowed/#comment-158074</link>
		<dc:creator>Amused Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 07:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL Jaim,
Don&#039;t you mean SO kindly shut the fuck up.  Your mind slips a few cogs when you don&#039;t have enough interaction with adults.  Common complaint of stay at home moms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL Jaim,<br />
Don&#8217;t you mean SO kindly shut the fuck up.  Your mind slips a few cogs when you don&#8217;t have enough interaction with adults.  Common complaint of stay at home moms.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaim</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/18/liberal-media-no-liberals-allowed/#comment-158072</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 07:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, even.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, even.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaim</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/18/liberal-media-no-liberals-allowed/#comment-158071</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 07:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AO doesn&#039;t do credible citations.  No sir, you just gotta believe in his inherent truthiness.

&quot;As I said if you think the media isn’t liberal you’re only deluding yourself.&quot;

Judith Miller.  No kindly STFU.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AO doesn&#8217;t do credible citations.  No sir, you just gotta believe in his inherent truthiness.</p>
<p>&#8220;As I said if you think the media isn’t liberal you’re only deluding yourself.&#8221;</p>
<p>Judith Miller.  No kindly STFU.</p>
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		<title>By: Amused Observer</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/18/liberal-media-no-liberals-allowed/#comment-158065</link>
		<dc:creator>Amused Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 07:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have the guys name but it was a fairly famous quote I&#039;m sure you can google it up if you so desire.
  As I said if you think the media isn&#039;t liberal you&#039;re only deluding yourself.  

Jesus, what about that Journolist server setup.  But it is useless trying to convince you.  Your mind is made up. Why bother.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have the guys name but it was a fairly famous quote I&#8217;m sure you can google it up if you so desire.<br />
  As I said if you think the media isn&#8217;t liberal you&#8217;re only deluding yourself.  </p>
<p>Jesus, what about that Journolist server setup.  But it is useless trying to convince you.  Your mind is made up. Why bother.</p>
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		<title>By: Repack Rider</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/18/liberal-media-no-liberals-allowed/#comment-158062</link>
		<dc:creator>Repack Rider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 06:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;When Gore was running somebodies mask slipped and he claimed the media support was worth 5 points or so.&lt;/i&gt;

&quot;Somebody?&quot;  Does somebody have a name?

So if the media had supported Gore, it would have put him over the top by a 5 point margin?  Bush must have REALLY been trailing, since even with massive media help he he lost the popular vote and only won a squeaker by getting lucky in the SCOTUS after the congressional staffers rioted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>When Gore was running somebodies mask slipped and he claimed the media support was worth 5 points or so.</i></p>
<p>&#8220;Somebody?&#8221;  Does somebody have a name?</p>
<p>So if the media had supported Gore, it would have put him over the top by a 5 point margin?  Bush must have REALLY been trailing, since even with massive media help he he lost the popular vote and only won a squeaker by getting lucky in the SCOTUS after the congressional staffers rioted.</p>
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		<title>By: Amused Observer</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/18/liberal-media-no-liberals-allowed/#comment-158059</link>
		<dc:creator>Amused Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 06:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Delude yourselves about the media all you want.  You&#039;re not fooling anyone.  When Gore was running somebodies mask slipped and he claimed the media support was worth 5 points or so.  By the time Bush had 8 years the media wasn&#039;t even trying to hide it anymore as sever liberal commentors mentioned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Delude yourselves about the media all you want.  You&#8217;re not fooling anyone.  When Gore was running somebodies mask slipped and he claimed the media support was worth 5 points or so.  By the time Bush had 8 years the media wasn&#8217;t even trying to hide it anymore as sever liberal commentors mentioned.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaim</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/18/liberal-media-no-liberals-allowed/#comment-158019</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 01:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  Just when I thought my old home-town paper couldn&#039;t get any worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  Just when I thought my old home-town paper couldn&#8217;t get any worse.</p>
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		<title>By: Wilbur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wilbur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 22:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Wilber what you should be hearing is a hearty chuckle at the foolishness of the left. And isn’t fruity code for fag? That isn’t considered acceptable to demean someone’s choice of sexuality is is?&lt;/i&gt;

LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Wilber what you should be hearing is a hearty chuckle at the foolishness of the left. And isn’t fruity code for fag? That isn’t considered acceptable to demean someone’s choice of sexuality is is?</i></p>
<p>LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Repack Rider</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/18/liberal-media-no-liberals-allowed/#comment-157983</link>
		<dc:creator>Repack Rider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;[Greenwald&#039;s] passion for civil rights as you put it is is quite selective.&lt;/i&gt; 

Examples:

&lt;i&gt;Your mention of torture as in an age where it is considered legitimate seems, well a bit tortured itself and much more irrelevant than my mention of Greenwalds deception.&lt;/i&gt;

I gave that as an example of how far we have fallen, since we know our government has tortured peoploe, and how much we need voices like Greenwald&#039;s to defend the Bill of Rights.  Surely you do not approve of torture, so there should be no argument there.

&lt;i&gt;A columnist caught blatantly lying suffers a loss of credibility that is hard to remove.&lt;/i&gt;

Pretty selective of &lt;i&gt;you&lt;/i&gt; .  By that standard  the entire staffs of the NYT and WaPo have no credibility after DailyKos scooped them on the WMD lies.  Is that what you mean?

&lt;i&gt;But you failed to comment on my suggestion that the mask had slipped. Have you an opinion on the paragraph that the bulk of my post revolved around?&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;m not sure what you meant, because I couldn&#039;t find any reference in Greenwald&#039;s article to that phrase.  Are you disputing that both TV and newspapers are members of the media?  Obviously they are.  If the WaPo fires their only liberal columnist and keeps a bunch of hacks, it provides more evidence that they are in the tank for the right.

It is no secret that Greenwald is nearly as hard on Obama as he was on Bush, mostly on different issues, but on the same issues when Obama emulates Bush.  Greenwald is an equal opportunity civil rights advocate; he goes after liberal politicians as much as conservatives when they abuse our rights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>[Greenwald's] passion for civil rights as you put it is is quite selective.</i> </p>
<p>Examples:</p>
<p><i>Your mention of torture as in an age where it is considered legitimate seems, well a bit tortured itself and much more irrelevant than my mention of Greenwalds deception.</i></p>
<p>I gave that as an example of how far we have fallen, since we know our government has tortured peoploe, and how much we need voices like Greenwald&#8217;s to defend the Bill of Rights.  Surely you do not approve of torture, so there should be no argument there.</p>
<p><i>A columnist caught blatantly lying suffers a loss of credibility that is hard to remove.</i></p>
<p>Pretty selective of <i>you</i> .  By that standard  the entire staffs of the NYT and WaPo have no credibility after DailyKos scooped them on the WMD lies.  Is that what you mean?</p>
<p><i>But you failed to comment on my suggestion that the mask had slipped. Have you an opinion on the paragraph that the bulk of my post revolved around?</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what you meant, because I couldn&#8217;t find any reference in Greenwald&#8217;s article to that phrase.  Are you disputing that both TV and newspapers are members of the media?  Obviously they are.  If the WaPo fires their only liberal columnist and keeps a bunch of hacks, it provides more evidence that they are in the tank for the right.</p>
<p>It is no secret that Greenwald is nearly as hard on Obama as he was on Bush, mostly on different issues, but on the same issues when Obama emulates Bush.  Greenwald is an equal opportunity civil rights advocate; he goes after liberal politicians as much as conservatives when they abuse our rights.</p>
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