You know, considering where the money actually went, I think embezzlement would’ve been more ethical in this case.

Not an embezzler? High praise indeed.

And right wingers love him for it, which says a LOT about the current degenerate state of the right wing.

The same Iranians that are fighting to overturn a stolen election? The same Iranians that want the pro-reform Mousavi in charge?

No matter what “they” actually do, they get painted with the same brush by you and the rest of your ultra-con ilk.

Zython, why can’t you ever ask a pertinent question

True, I did have an idea of what you meant by “they”, but needed to confirm. However, if I had to answer that (which I don’t), it would be because if I DID ask one, you would just shriek like a banshee.

instead of failing so miserably at being clever?

Considering your idea of “cleverness”, I’ll take my tips from someone else, thank you.

I loved my country enough to join the US Army for four years, and work for the government for 15 years. And you?

Oliver North also worked for the U.S. government. What’s your point?

First off, who is “they”?

“They” are the Iranians [as are "them"].

Zython, why can’t you ever ask a pertinent question, instead of failing so miserably at being clever?

I loved my country enough to join the US Army for four years, and work for the government for 15 years. And you?

Since bombing nuclear facilities would spark an international incident, but the fallout from the radioactive materials would probably kill many civilians slowly and painfully. So I would have to say that complete annihilation would probably be comparatively merciful.

f course, the intelligentsia approve of obliterating the enemy in question.

Opposed to the idiotocracy that you’re a part of?

this makes all wars bad

No, just the ones that ultra-cons like you think are a good idea.

They hate us. So, liberals don’t want anything bad to happen to them.

First off, who is “they”? Secondly, this is the kind of crap that caused the ultra-cons to be a laughing stock for years to come.

Why do you hate America so much, Frankie?

Not a bad option if you’ve got your mind reader up and running. Pretty bad if you’re relying on shaky intel/data-mining.

Now, what of Iran? Well, here’s why Iran gets a pass:

1) They hate us. So, liberals don’t want anything bad to happen to them.
2) They hate Israel. So, liberals don’t want anything bad to happen to them.
3) They are pretty tough militarily… They won’t fold like the Iran military did. So, if we fight them , some Americans will die and it will take time. Worse, it will take valuable resources away from all the programs that give do-gooder liberals the warm fuzzies, despite the fact that after all these decades and bazillions of dollars, they have accomplished nothing
4) Finally, what reporter wants to go to a war zone with no whores and no booze ?

Get it, now , Dennis ?

This isn’t even a question of semantics or your use of hyperbole. It’s an honest question of asking you just what the hell are you talking about and what kind of a charge are you making. I read Greenwald’s post and I read every article he linked to when each one first came out, and I don’t know if any of those are what you’re referring to or not, but none suggest obliteration of Iran. And the charge you level against Frank baffles him too.

Please explain yourself if you would.

P.S. Bring back preview!

“<b?[Republican] John McCain infamously sang about Bomb, Bomb, Bomb-ing Iran. The Wall St. Journal published a war screed from Commentary’s [right winger] Norman Podhoretz entitled ‘The Case for Bombing Iran,’ and following that, Podhoretz said in an interview that he ‘hopes and prays’ that the U.S. ‘bombs the Iranians.’ John Bolton and Joe Lieberman advocated the same bombing campaign, while Bill Kristol — with typical prescience — hopefully suggested that Bush might bomb Iran if Obama were elected. [Republican] Rudy Giuliani actually said he would be open to a first-strike nuclear attack on Iran in order to stop their nuclear program.”

As for Frank himself, let’s ask him. How did you feel about McCain when this happened?

Do you have a link to that, Zython?

Or two, actually. One that Frank supported obliterating the country completely, and one that his ilk did too.

Seems pretty extreme, but I know you’d never exaggerate. The links that Glenn Greenwald had in his article don’t support that contention.

Sec. Clinton: Defensive
Cons: Preemptive