Comments on: Fox Business Still Failing http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/16/fox-business-still-failing/ Like Kryptonite To Stupid Sat, 11 Feb 2012 06:30:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: Oliver Willis http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/16/fox-business-still-failing/#comment-157495 Oliver Willis Wed, 17 Jun 2009 08:14:28 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=15024#comment-157495 Those arguments don't hold water guys. Fox News only really cares about its brand here, and within its niche of conservatives, it does well. In the rest of the world News Corp has Sky News. And Fox broadcast is #1 thanks to American Idol. I don't see that they cancel any more shows than the rest of the broadcast networks. Certainly not as many as NBC in the last 5-6 years. Those arguments don’t hold water guys. Fox News only really cares about its brand here, and within its niche of conservatives, it does well. In the rest of the world News Corp has Sky News. And Fox broadcast is #1 thanks to American Idol. I don’t see that they cancel any more shows than the rest of the broadcast networks. Certainly not as many as NBC in the last 5-6 years.

]]> By: Repack Rider http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/16/fox-business-still-failing/#comment-157408 Repack Rider Wed, 17 Jun 2009 00:47:32 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=15024#comment-157408 FOX News? I think I've heard of it, but like Bigfoot, I've never actually seen it. FOX News? I think I’ve heard of it, but like Bigfoot, I’ve never actually seen it.

]]> By: Zython http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/16/fox-business-still-failing/#comment-157394 Zython Tue, 16 Jun 2009 23:30:24 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=15024#comment-157394 That's also ignoring Fox in general, which has canceled more shows than most channels have ever had in their line-up. That’s also ignoring Fox in general, which has canceled more shows than most channels have ever had in their line-up.

]]> By: Penon http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/16/fox-business-still-failing/#comment-157392 Penon Tue, 16 Jun 2009 23:16:42 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=15024#comment-157392 Also keep in mind that TVGuide.com and iGuide.com were in turn built upon (or more technically, rolled out from) the failure to partner with MCI and, building off the original Delphi Internet service, crate a "serious" competitor to the likes of AOL. <strong>That</strong> was the original goal of iGuide, and was such a spectacular failure it never reached the point to claim a single paying customer. Also keep in mind that TVGuide.com and iGuide.com were in turn built upon (or more technically, rolled out from) the failure to partner with MCI and, building off the original Delphi Internet service, crate a “serious” competitor to the likes of AOL. That was the original goal of iGuide, and was such a spectacular failure it never reached the point to claim a single paying customer.

]]> By: Michael Over Here http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/16/fox-business-still-failing/#comment-157372 Michael Over Here Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:38:01 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=15024#comment-157372 The thing is that although Fox News may be a ratings success in the United States that has come at a cost. Fox News has tarnished the Fox brand overall. Additionally the Fox News brand is all but worthless in foreign markets whereas CNN, MSNBC, Bloomberg, etc, all all strong global brands. So yeah, Fox News has better ratings in the states but CNN is a worldwide brand. The thing is that although Fox News may be a ratings success in the United States that has come at a cost. Fox News has tarnished the Fox brand overall. Additionally the Fox News brand is all but worthless in foreign markets whereas CNN, MSNBC, Bloomberg, etc, all all strong global brands.

So yeah, Fox News has better ratings in the states but CNN is a worldwide brand.

]]> By: Duros62 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/16/fox-business-still-failing/#comment-157364 Duros62 Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:52:18 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=15024#comment-157364 Everytime you log onto Myspace, Rupert gets a little piece of your soul and puts it in a box on his desk. Everytime you log onto Myspace, Rupert gets a little piece of your soul and puts it in a box on his desk.

]]> By: Dennis http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/16/fox-business-still-failing/#comment-157363 Dennis Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:46:33 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=15024#comment-157363 I'll agree with that. There's no real edge there and not a whole lot to draw people in. Just another business channel, and Erin Burnett and Becky Quick are a lot easier on the eyes than the FBN announcers. I’ll agree with that. There’s no real edge there and not a whole lot to draw people in. Just another business channel, and Erin Burnett and Becky Quick are a lot easier on the eyes than the FBN announcers.

]]> By: Oliver http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/16/fox-business-still-failing/#comment-157358 Oliver Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:30:35 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=15024#comment-157358 "Fox News Channel is a clear success for Rupert Murdoch." Who wrote that? Scroll up. I'll wait. Okay? When Fox News launched it filled a niche - no matter how nutty - and was far more consistent than the alternatives (MSNBC has had about 15 personalities in the last 10+ yrs and just recently released it might do well to have liberals hosting teevee shows). On the other hand, Fox Biz doesn't really do anything special, and what it purports to do is better done by Bloomberg and CNBC. “Fox News Channel is a clear success for Rupert Murdoch.”
Who wrote that? Scroll up. I’ll wait. Okay? When Fox News launched it filled a niche – no matter how nutty – and was far more consistent than the alternatives (MSNBC has had about 15 personalities in the last 10+ yrs and just recently released it might do well to have liberals hosting teevee shows). On the other hand, Fox Biz doesn’t really do anything special, and what it purports to do is better done by Bloomberg and CNBC.

]]> By: matt621 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/16/fox-business-still-failing/#comment-157337 matt621 Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:14:43 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=15024#comment-157337 Oliver, what Obama was saying is that it took Fox News several years to begin consistently beating the shit out of CNN and MSDNC. People who want to declare failure too quickly, generally do not find success at all. Good thing you don't know anybody like that. What a depressing life it would be. Oliver, what Obama was saying is that it took Fox News several years to begin consistently beating the shit out of CNN and MSDNC.

People who want to declare failure too quickly, generally do not find success at all.

Good thing you don’t know anybody like that. What a depressing life it would be.

]]> By: Burn http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/16/fox-business-still-failing/#comment-157334 Burn Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:04:51 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=15024#comment-157334 How much did old Rupert shell out for myspace, half a billion? Now it's tanking big time. All the really cool kids are on facebook now, as myspace has been taken over by porn spammers, 8h grade basement bands that suck, and Macys gift card scams. Way to go, Rupe! How much did old Rupert shell out for myspace, half a billion?

Now it’s tanking big time. All the really cool kids are on facebook now, as myspace has been taken over by porn spammers, 8h grade basement bands that suck, and Macys gift card scams.

Way to go, Rupe!

]]> By: Oliver Willis http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/16/fox-business-still-failing/#comment-157332 Oliver Willis Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:55:16 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=15024#comment-157332 Somehow I don't think Obama was referencing running dishonest media organizations when he said that. Somehow I don’t think Obama was referencing running dishonest media organizations when he said that.

]]> By: Dennis http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/16/fox-business-still-failing/#comment-157325 Dennis Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:02:49 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=15024#comment-157325 "<i>Making your mark on the world is hard. If it were easy, everybody would do it. But it's not. It takes patience, it takes commitment, and it comes with plenty of failure along the way. The real test is not whether you avoid this failure, because you won't. It's whether you let it harden or shame you into inaction, or whether you learn from it; whether you choose to persevere.</i> ---Barack Obama “Making your mark on the world is hard. If it were easy, everybody would do it. But it’s not. It takes patience, it takes commitment, and it comes with plenty of failure along the way. The real test is not whether you avoid this failure, because you won’t. It’s whether you let it harden or shame you into inaction, or whether you learn from it; whether you choose to persevere.
—Barack Obama

]]> By: Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/16/fox-business-still-failing/#comment-157322 Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle Tue, 16 Jun 2009 15:52:36 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=15024#comment-157322 Doesn't Rupert own <em>National Review</em>(& <em>NRO</em> by extension) as well? Doesn’t Rupert own National Review(& NRO by extension) as well?

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