You bet, more racism about President Obama. This time from an aide to Tennessee State Sen. Diane Black. Republican of course.
This is not to be confused with the guy from a couple days ago who compared Michelle Obama to a gorilla. Or the conservative mayor who sent around a picture of the White House and watermelons. Or the guy who sold t-shirts comparing Barack Obama to a monkey.*
Those were all separate incidents, and if one were to point out that the right has apparently ramped up its reflexive racism in the wake of President Obama’s election… well that would just be mean.
* UPDATE: Also that guy who made a racist remark on Twitter. But not a part. No sireee. Not at all. Look over there, a pony. A BLACK pony.
I still do think Bush Jr. had been compared to a monkey more times in his presidency at this point, than has Obama.
The GOP is the party of racist bigots like Rush Limbaugh, Lee Atwater, and Jesse Helms. And they just can’t help themselves these days.
It’s sad to see anyone overcome by sheer hateful bigotry on an individual level, because it’s simply pathetic to see a person lose his or her mind. It’s amusing as hell to see it happen to a dying political party like the GOP, because they’re getting exactly what they deserve — the utter contempt of the American people.
Say g’night, Republicans. Older white males are dying off, and every day you manage to alienate a potential demographic, be it women, blacks, hispanics, asians, or gays.
Stay classy, Republicans! Doin’ a bang up job so far (and obviously, more good news for John McCain!)
Oliver and Jaim,
Were either of you personally offended by Jesse Jackson’s remarks about Hymietown? Or Rev. Wrights recent comments about jews? Or Al Sharptons remarks that got a jew killed in Crown Heights?
I’m not excusing the foolishness in Tennessee I’m just guauging your sincerity about racist remarks. I already know the depth of your feelings about discrimination don’t go any farther than what’s in it for me.
and every day you manage to alienate a potential demographic, be it women, blacks, hispanics, asians, or gays. –Jaim
Funny Jaim, you didn’t seem at all concerned about food service personnel or Latinos when you decided to weakly demean me by calling me a chalupa slinger. Such a low-class occupation to you, apparently.
Racist bigot much yourself? Funny how you’re always the one to squawk the loudest about racism. It’s just so convenient for you.
And you were so vocal about David Letterman’s boorish and crass misogyny, too. I thought you’d never cut Letterman a break- I almost felt sorry for him you were so vigilant. You almost outdid Oliver’s protestations, it was so bad.
Oh my God. Did Amused Observer pull the classic “well, back in 19whatever, so and so said THIS” tactic.
Really?
I co-sign with Luv.
I find it astounding how some just can’t seriously acknowledge the present ongoing ugly GOP racism that is NOT being repudiated by GOP leaders. No firings, etc. Yet these same people seem to emit a perpetual high pitched whine about previous racist fails of Democrats that most Democrats and their leaders, repudiated.
Go figure.
Oops–I forgot, the man who sent out the watermelon email did quit. Of course that’s before word got out that you could be as racist as you wanted to be and still shine in the GOP.
Jesse Jackson said something racist? Well then everybody gets to, because like the three examples cited, Reverend Jackson is employed in a government capacity and his decisions affect…
Wait.
Individuals have a First Amendment right to say racist things, but they don’t have a Constitutional right to a government paycheck. Maybe our trolls didn’t get it that these people are making their racist remarks on government time.
Current Republican Senator Jeff Sessions thought KKK members were great until he learned some of them smoked the dope.
http://google.com/search?q=Jeff+Sessions+KKK
The KKK was a terrorist organization for decades.
Some still see the KKK as a terrorist organization.
And one of the KKK’s former fans now represents Republicans in the SENATE.
This is who they are.
Amused observer: Yes I was offended by Jackson’s hymietown remark and yes I am offended by Wright’s remarks.
Now what that has to do with systemic racist attitudes brewing in the moldy underbelly of the Republican party, I have no idea.
There are plenty of racists in the democratic party, and plenty of democrats who say stupid racist things. But if you don’t think the problem is significantly worse in the republican party then you’re just ignorant or not being honest with yourself.
News Reference,
Uh I’m a fan of the KKK…..
I respect them for at least being honest about the way they feel.
They know and understand that their view points are seen as … unseemly and accept the ridicule.
I only wish all of the people that feel the same way had the balls to “Man Up”. (There fore giving all they meet the chance to know whom they are dealing with.) Instead most couch it in the language of equity, religion, biology, sociology, humor or just plain ignorance.
You have the right in this country to feel how you wish. And I support that right. What you do not have the right to do is act anyway you wish.
It is an old lession that we as a culture teach children. That some cons have forgot.
Cons think racism is “common sense” and who could be offended by “common sense”
Maybe our trolls didn’t get it that these people are making their racist remarks on government time. Redneck Repack
Repack, Both Bill and Hillary Clinton were called racist by Oliver, as was Joe Biden. They were all on government time, at least Hillary and Joe, whereas Bill was working on his wife’s campaign. Hillary received a very important position from Obama, as did Joe Biden. There is absolutely no criticism at all coming from him, not even an acknowledgement of these prior charges of racism, for these individuals playing such a large role in the governing of this country. Especially at a time when racism is at the very top of his list of grievances, I would think racists in such high positions would be quite alarming to him.
So while I get it that some of these incidences of racism by relatively obscure and largely unknown people working in the government are wrong, I also think it’s fair to question the sincerity and veracity of the one reporting on these said incidences as if the problem only exists in a conservative vacuum.
Racism is bigotry, and what David Letterman joked about was bigotry. So far, other than a few who have denounced his jokes as such, the majority of people posting here, including the owner, have dismissed the Palin supporters as opportunistic wack-jobs. It just seems to me that if the bigotry of racism were so abhorrent, all types of bigotry would be, no matter what the political views of the bigot. And I don’t see that here.
At least not by the one informing you of its prevalence.
LOL,
“I’m not excusing the foolishness in Tennessee I’m just guauging your sincerity about racist remarks”
Well some people here have purer convictions than others. Incidently as far as I know the only actual klansman serving in the Senate is a Democrat.
Any thoughts on the former Oliver branded racists of the Democratic party? Is it ok now or was Oliver exagerating for effect?
After spending the last 8 years totally disrespecting all things Republican can you really be surprised that the public discourse is so disrespectful?
And while humour based on ethnicity or race is cruel is it really any more bigoted than the ignorant blanket statements about conservative Republicans that are the stock and trade of this site?
while humour based on ethnicity or race is cruel is it really any more bigoted than the ignorant blanket statements about conservative Republicans
Yes, one has no choice about one’s ethnicity or race, whereas it only takes a smidge of common sense to avoid being a conservative Republican.
Plus, while there is no objective evidence that one ethnicity or race is inherently superior or inferior to others, there is abundant evidence that conservative republicanism is an objectively inferior political philosophy. The epic failures of the past eight years of conservative republican leadership provide ample proof of that.
The best thing that Democrats have going for them in gaining ethnic votes is Conservatives themselves.
Conservatives are upset about David Letterman’s Palin joke. Conservatives did not accept Letterman’s initial apology.
These Conservatives now say that they don’t accept racism in the GOP, but in order for them to offer this statement, Progressives have to accept part of the blame. Oliver Willis has to apologize to Conservatives. Robert Byrd who was a former KKK Kleagle (Recruiter), but later renounced the organization and now has an 85% approval rating on Civil Rights issues from the NAACP Legal Defense Fund must be criticized. Apologizes for Jesse Jackson have to be made. So on and so on.
Conservatives will speak out strongly against the racism within the GOP only if Progressives apologize to Conservatives. Conservatives practice hypocrisy at the highest level. When ethnic minorities read Conservative responses to internal GOP racism, they realize that the GOP is comprised of people that minorities would not find very compatible. The Conservative posts on this blog speak volumes about Conservative attitudes.
But if you don’t think the problem is significantly worse in the republican party then you’re just ignorant or not being honest with yourself. Wilbur1138
I can agree with that, Wilbur, it’s just that from what I can tell, no one is making that argument. We are just asking why the focus on one party’s problems and near complete dismissal of the other one’s similar problems? Your subsequent posts attest to a candid answer to that question, that they are given a pass because one’s adherence to the party with the superior political philososphy.
And if you think that the dismissal of offensively bigoted and racist behavior on the grounds of one’s adherence to a superior political philosophy isn’t significantly worse in the democratic party, then you’re the one being ignorant or not honest with yourself.
And if you think that the dismissal of offensively bigoted and racist behavior on the grounds of one’s adherence to a superior political philosophy isn’t significantly worse in the democratic party, then you’re the one being ignorant or not honest with yourself.
Nobody’s dismissing it. If we’re not making as big a deal over it it’s because such behavior among democrats is an aberration, whereas among republicans it is far less rare. Since you admit that to be true, perhaps your response to hearing about another instance of it shouldn’t be “aw, democrats do it too” but “why do we have this pervasive problem in our party?”
Since you admit that to be true, perhaps your response to hearing about another instance of it shouldn’t be “aw, democrats do it too” but “why do we have this pervasive problem in our party?” Wilbur1138
My response isn’t ‘aw, democrats do it too’, but bewilderment as to why the unfair and hypocritically one-sided focus. I don’t see how that does anything at all to help the problem. You don’t have to be a race-obsessed blogger to know that racism exists and that near-daily instances of it are not hard to find if you search for it hard enough, but exploiting it for purposes of clubbing the political party that you think is inferior, and all it’s adherents, accusing them of being complicit, is not helping anyone.
………..but exploiting it for purposes of clubbing the political party that you think is inferior, and all it’s adherents, accusing them of being complicit, is not helping anyone.
The problem is that the GOP invites the criticism. Rush “Barack the Magic Negro” Limbaugh is a person that is identified as an important voice in the GOP. Jeff Sessions, the point man for the GOP on the Sotomayor confirmation has his own racial baggage.
Pat Buchanan gets a prominent role on MSNBC and NBC. He may be a Conservative hero, but Buchanan is known to minorities as the guy who wrote the column “Thank Whitey”. Buchanan wrote that Blacks should thank White for slavery and the opportunity it afforded Blacks to become US citizens. More recently Buchanan wrote about his preference for the days of Jim Crow to current US policy. With voices like Buchanan given free reign and no criticism from the right, his words are considered to be those of mainstream Conservative belief.
The pictures of monkey dolls being carried into Palin events didn’t help the Conservative image. Stop worrying about what the other guy is doing and address the persistent issue within the GOP. Until that is done forget about getting a significant number of minority votes on a national level.
I’m not excusing the foolishness in Tennessee
Yes you are, just like you always do when this happens.
…but bewilderment as to why the unfair and hypocritically one-sided focus.
But the thing is, it is not unfair and hypocritically one-sided. Oliver has certainly used his site to criticize democrats who say racist shit, and so have I and most other democrats and lefties I have any contact with. If we criticize the republican side more often part of that, sure, is the competitive impulse to bash the other side more than your own, but most of it is that there is simply more of it on the republican side (which you apparently admit). If one guy whacks you twice and another guy whacks you twenty times, is it unfair or hypocritical to focus your response on the guy who whacks you twenty times? Seems to me that you’re the hypocritical one if you read Oliver’s criticism, for instance, of some of Biden’s remarks and didn’t write in to say “whoa there, Republicans say that kind of crap way more frequently!”
as far as I know the only actual klansman serving in the Senate is a Democrat.
False.
How does a dumb stunt by a State Congressional staffer add up to Institutionalized Racism on the part of Republicans in general?
I didn’t know about the email until after it was sent, it wasn’t sent to me, and my approval was never sought.
It looks to me like a poor imitation of MAD Magazine — certainly not a symptom of anything but that there will be an uptick in anti-black crudities for a while.
As stated above, it comes nowhere near the saliva specked vitriol that characterized anti-Bush criticisms during his administration.
…………..As stated above, it comes nowhere near the saliva specked vitriol that characterized anti-Bush criticisms during his administration.
Hold on to that position and the Democrats can sit back while the GOP loses the emerging minority demographic. The GOP can either play the victim or give minority groups reason to even consider the GOP.
If you prepare the best meal that a person could imagine, but then serve the meal on the lid of the most foul odored garbage can that you can find, the meal would be rejected. While I don’t believe that the GOP platform is the best meal out there, I do know that GOP heroes like Rush Limbaugh, Pat Buchanan, etc are viewed as the foul smelling garbage can lid.
If the GOP wants minority votes, the GOP has to present itself to that community in a pleasant form. The GOP has to work to rid itself of it’s biased image. Major voices in the GOP calling out Limbaugh and Buchanan would be a start.
How does a dumb stunt by a State Congressional staffer add up to Institutionalized Racism on the part of Republicans in general?
Because for some strange reason, it appears that it’s only Republican officials and those working for them that are making racist statements.
RMRD,
That analogy reminds me of David Sedaris’s bit about ‘undecided voters’ in the most recent Presidential election. He said being undecided at that point is like being offered a choice of airline meals – chicken, or a plate of human excrement with broken glass in it – and asking ‘how is the chicken prepared?’.
Attempts at defending the GOP’s institutionalized racism at this ooint – by pointing at Jackson, Sharpton, et al – is like announcing that the sauce for the chicken contains anchovies, and hey, who likes anchovies, really? And Senator Bilbo was a Democrat, so we win!!
I have to give AO and his team credit for continued effort. It’s like those leftist and progressive commenters over at FreeRepublic who keep posting, despite. . . oh, wait, right, their comments get deleted immediately. Sorry.
Major voices in the GOP calling out Limbaugh and Buchanan would be a start.
Yeah, well, good luck with that. They are who they are.
So what is the group think position for the former racists as branded by Oliver that are now part and parcel of Obama’s inner circle. Are they still racists? Was it all a horrible mistake to have thought they were racists? Or do we just make all this shit up and call people racist when it serves our needs?
Wilber was the only person offended by the two Reverend’s remarks. He didn’t comment on Sharpton but 2 out of 3 ain’t bad.
So was the eyes only drawing of Obama as crude and insulting as the caricatures of Ms. Rice? Some of those from the left seemed pretty demeaning.
So what is the group think position for the former racists as branded by Oliver that are now part and parcel of Obama’s inner circle. Are they still racists? –Amused Observer
Words that shall not be spoken, AO. Once they’ve been vetted and given the seal of approval by BHO, all prior transgressions are scrubbed.
AO and Dennis, here’s a serious question which I’m sure you’ll manage to dodge:
Given demographic trends in the US over the past 20 yeas (white males are no longer the dominant voting bloc, or at least won’t be much longer) how is the GOP going to prevent itself from becoming a regional party based in the Southeast? Which demographic groups will the GOP target to avoid repeats of 2006 and 2008?
Further, how do racist e-mails like the one Diane Black’s staffer sent help to court non-white male voters?
I eagerly await your bat-shit-insane responses as to how it’s really the Democrats who are racist bigots, and the blacks, women, hispanics, and gays who overwhelmingly vote “D” have actually been fooled into voting for that black, funny sounding name guy Obama. Uh-huh.
The following link has some difficult words, but do you best with it:
http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2009/05/republican_party_deep_trouble.html
AO and Dennis pose questions that no cares about. Hillary Clinton is now Sec of State. Jesse Jackson, who wanted to cut off Obama’s manhood, was seen crying tears of joy when Obama was elected. Bygones be bygones and all that.
AO and Dennis cannot address directly what the GOP needs to do to change it’s image. The only play they have is “look over there”.
Conservatives are structurally incapable of addressing racism in the ranks of the GOP. Conservatives can only gripe about what other people are doing. The racist rot in the GOP will continue to fester. AO and Dennis will remain on the sidelines as the image of their party is slowly eaten away.
I think I’ll just stand by and watch AO and Dennis as they attack everything but the racial bias in the GOP. Obviously, their parents failed to impart the message that, when caught in mischief, the argument that “Little Johnny did it too”, is not a defense that prevents you from facing the consequences for your own misdeeds. The GOP needs to take personal responsibility. speak out against bias in the GOP.
On this, AO and Dennis will get a FAIL.
Jaim, here’s a few serious questions which I’m sure you’ll manage to dodge:
Why do you degrade restaurant workers when you taunt people by saying they serve chalupas, as if that is somehow less than an acceptable occupation, or one to be mocked? Do you think you are superior to them?
How is your bigotry toward Hispanics acceptable behavior to you?
Conservative + South =
Hmm. Gee, that’s a toughy. I’ll have to noodle that one for a while…
‘I still do think Bush Jr. had been compared to a monkey more times in his presidency at this point, than has Obama.’
That’s right, because of his total inability to stop slinging his own shit at everyone who peered at him through his cage, not because people were employing a well known slur against Black people on him. Are you telling me that you can’t tell the difference between likening an ignorant White man to a monkey and calling a brilliant Black man a monkey?
Dennis, the fact that you equate Taco Bell with Mexican food speaks volumes as to your racist sensibilities.
but like I said, thanks for dodging my straightforward question re: you and your party’s problem with bigotry.
The email sent by Black’s aide CANNOT be construed as anything but racist; the evidence is obvious and overwhelming. But perhaps the most telling comment on the whole affair comes from the aider herself, who when twice offered a chance to apologize for the incident by a local journalist, merely expressed her regret at sending the email to the wrong recipients, and NOT for the email itself; in other words, she’s not sorry about the overt racism she displayed, but only that she got caught out doing so. Where is the outrage from the Right that was so prominent when they were rushing to defend Sarah Palin from David Letterman? I’ll tell you where it is; it’s too fucking busy trying to find the email in their collective in-boxes. God forbid anyone on the Right would denounce this bullshit as the obvious slur on the President that it is. People have been wondering why this bitch didn’t get fired for this, when they should probably be asking how much of a raise she received instead. This entire sordid affair could not be more ugly and despicable, and before anyone goes off on how similar this is to the Palin/Letterman nonsense, perhaps they should try and explain the joke in all this first, much like they demanded of Letterman.
Jaim,
It doesn’t help a bit when Republicans get caught making stupid racial jokes. They are supposed to be professionals for God’s sake. It is hard to compete with a party that champions the politics of identity and rewards the victims with special rights. That is always going to be popular, and hard to compete with and still be true to your convictions.
The disconnect between the many who vote and the few who pay significant taxes is another sticking point. Not enough people have an actual stake in what the government spends. A flat tax would go a long way towards fixing that problem. Another good idea would be having Election day fall on April 15th.
Let the asians know over and over again that asians with higher qualifications are being turned away from from public schools because of affirmative action.
Writing off the black vote probably doesn’t cost us anything but we need to champion thier educational needs. Weaken the Democrat coalition between blacks and teachers. The NEA has failed blacks terribly in the area of education. While part of this is cultural much of the fault lies within the teaching profession. Teachers are hampered by the lack of discipline amongst thier students. But sadly you won’t get any points in championing discipline. Let the liberals reap what they have sown.
But the key is to capture the swing. Let Obama own the economic problems he is causing. When inflation hits hammer away at the Democrats. When the price of energy goes up because of carbon taxation hammer away. When Americans want jobs point out how good oilfield jobs are, drill baby drill. When our medical system starts rationing care get lots of stories out of granny dieing because she was too old to qualify for the procedure that would have given her a few more years. Publicise the salaries and benefits of public sector workers. Start hammering away at the unfunded public sector pensions.
‘How does a dumb stunt by a State Congressional staffer add up to Institutionalized Racism on the part of Republicans in general?’
Because no one on the Right is denouncing it, they’re too busy, like you, trying to defend it.
LOL JRFunk,
I haven’t seen the evidence of the ignorance on the one hand or the brilliance on the other. Obama is a slick Chicago politician but that isn’t a sign of brilliance, cunning maybe.
If it isn’t right to call Obama a monkey it wasn’t right to call Bush one either. The fact that it stings a little more with Obama is ironic but doen’t excuse the barbs thrown at Bush first now does it.
“rewards the victims with special rights”
Like when Bill Clinton reformed welfare?
“The disconnect between the many who vote and the few who pay significant taxes is another sticking point.”
All those Hollywood and New York liberals you love to hate are working class Joes? Oprah has a second job to make ends meet?
“Let the asians know over and over again that asians with higher qualifications are being turned away from from public schools because of affirmative action.”
Um, what? There are more Asians studying in America than ever. Again, you make no sense. Affirmative action has traditionally worked in favor of Asians, not against them. So, more fail from you.
I won’t even quote you on your comments re: public schools. Let’s endear blacks to the GOP by slashing school funding? Is that what you’re driving at? Again, fail.
“But the key is to capture the swing.”
Obviously, and Reagan Democrats don’t vote Republican any longer due to the stupidity of 2001-2008. The GOP made the Federal government bigger than ever, and made it more intrusive than ever before. Your party simply can’t be trusted to govern. If a person wants smaller government they might not vote “D,” but they certainly won’t vote “R.” Republicans are the ultimate party of saying one thing and doing another. They love to spend just as much as Dems, they just don’t raise taxes to make up for it along the way. (Well, not since Reagan’s second term at least.)
The GOP will make a comeback eventually, but it’ll be a while. Your party has shown itself unwilling to embrace new, reality-based leadership. (Palin? Jindal? Good luck with those losers.) The longer you refuse to do this, the longer you stay in the woods.
And really, you need to start talking in terms of facts, not fantasies. For example:
“Let Obama own the economic problems he is causing.”
The Dow is up ten percent under Obama. It dropped forty percent under Bush. Unemployment remains a problem but please, he inherited a massive Recession from Bush. To try and spin it any other way is just further testament to how bankrupt you are of ideas.
“When our medical system starts rationing care get lots of stories out of granny dieing because she was too old to qualify for the procedure that would have given her a few more years.”
Um, it already does this. This is pretty much a precise illustration of the current American health system.
“Publicise the salaries and benefits of public sector workers.”
The salaries are already public, especially if you know how to use the Google.
So, in short, the GOP makes a comeback by a) remaining delusional, b) doing really stupid things and c) stating the obvious. Thank for clearing that up for us.
If it isn’t right to call Obama a monkey it wasn’t right to call Bush one either.
Which Democratic government employees were calling Bush a monkey while at work?
Oh, wait, it’s the false equivalence again. You’re saying that a private citizen calling Bush a name is the same as a congressional staffer using government resources to mock Obama on tax-paid time.
You clowns are as predictable as sunrise.
Once again AO spends the bulk of his effort attacking the other party. He will not confront the racist cesspool in the GOP.
AO’s only goal now is to pit Asians against Blacks. AO is exhibit A on why the GOP will continue to lose the non-White vote.
Jaim,
That’s not all what I said. Your every retort has nothing to do with what I said. Asians are turned away because there are too many that qualify by merit. And they know it. So you work the wedge.
Your point about health care is exactly wrong. Insured Americans can get all the care that they’ve paid for. If public healthcare goes the way it is in England it will be rationed for old people.
I realize that you don’t understand the historic implications of deficit spending and inflation but I do. And before you start talking about the money that Bush spent take into consideration the fact that Obama has deficts projected out 10 years that are 400% greater than what Bush spent. He is already wearing out the “we inherited the problem ” meme.
And yes Jaim I know you can access public sector payroll data over the internet, What I meant was publicise it. Commercials etc. build resentment over lazy public sector workers being overpaid. They aren’t going to vote for us either.
I didn’t mention slashing education budgets. That is something you made up in your mind. I said that we should write off the black vote all together, it isn’t in play. But I said we should champion thier education needs and drive a wedge between two solid members of the Democrat party, teachers and blacks.
The NEA has done a piss poor job of educating blacks. Some of this is cultural. It’s not pc for me to bring it up but I’m sure you remember the points Bill Cosby was bringing up. Some of it is the lack of discipline in schools. Lack of discipline is something very hard to hang on conservatives and very easy to hang on liberals. But we won’t get any points for campaigning for discipline. In fact we’ll lose minority votes if we pushed it. So let it alone but emphasize over and over black scholastics and NEA performance.
But the real point is why are you hassling me about this. You asked a straight forward question about what I would do to make up for the diminishing demographics of the base of the Republican party.
I pointed out to you that more Americans self identiy as conservative than liberal. I said that the swing is the key. What you don’t seem to get is the pendulum swings back and forth. That is because 2/3 of the people are pretty fixed in thier views. The swing goes from one side to another. Nothing is forever.
Politics has become a blood sport in this country. We have a cultural divide that is growing not narrowing. You need to use wedge issues to break up the coalitions of the opposition. It’s not pretty. In fact it is pretty cynical. But you asked. Republicans are going to have to take a few pages from the Democrats playbook and fight a little harder and a little dirtier.
You love the sight of your own snark on screen but Jaim you really are just a pup. You think you have everything all figured out. Good luck with that.
Republicans are going to have to take a few pages from the Democrats playbook and fight a little harder and a little dirtier.
Yup. The liberals made us do it. We would love to run on our principles. We would. Really. You know, discipline and all that. But the liberals made us go negative. We simply have no control over our actions because the liberals have also made us want to win at all costs. No seriously. They totally forced us to divide the country up into ever more polarized factions! We don’t even know how they did it. They’re so undisciplined and their base (you know, the negros) are so lazy and stupid. (We didn’t want to say that but there again, the liberals forced us to! They are just so hard to resist!) So don’t blame us. THEY TOTALLY PUT THIS WEDGE IN OUR HANDS!
LOL Fafaroo,
No they didn’t make us do it, they just showed us the way. You ever heard of a gal named Cynthia Yockey?
You will.
“Commercials etc. build resentment over lazy public sector workers being overpaid.”
Way to show your support for soldiers, teachers, and cops.
“I pointed out to you that more Americans self identiy as conservative than liberal.”
Link please. The thing about political identification is that it changes over time. There’s no single poll that tells everything, but it’s my understanding that the only demographic that this is true for is white males, and white males are no longer a dominant demographic. You had a point 20 years ago, not so much now.
And beyond that, why would anyone who identifies as Conservative vote Republican? The party of weak national defense (9/11), the party of bloated government (TSA, DHS), and the party of intrusive government (suspension of Bill of Rights for American citizens)? That’s probably your biggest problem more than any other — the GOP doesn’t stand for small government these days. 2001 through 2008 proved this for a fact — you guys love to spend money just as wildly as Democrats do. The difference is that we actually manage to run surpluses since we get the economy running smoothly.
“We have a cultural divide that is growing not narrowing.”
Not true. Just look at gay marriage — it was unthinkable ten years ago that we’d see the overwhelming consensus that we do now. You see a cultural divide growing, what you don’t see is that in fact the cultural divide is lessening, and your side lost. (Btw, a black man was elected president. You see it as a “worsening divide,” while a majority of Americans saw it for what it was for — a great victory for national unity and putting the past behind us.)
“you really are just a pup”
You really are suffering from the early stages of Alzeimer’s, as far as I can tell.
………………..Politics has become a blood sport in this country. We have a cultural divide that is growing not narrowing. You need to use wedge issues to break up the coalitions of the opposition. It’s not pretty. In fact it is pretty cynical.
So as I said. Conservatives will do nothing to address racism within their ranks. In fact, Conservatives will stand by as racists try to increase anger within the GOP ranks.
If that is the case, all Republicans should b hel to account for not criticizing the racists within their ranks. AO just admitted that he is willing to drive a wedge between different ethnic groups. Conservative + South = Racist or Racialist.
Amused Observer: Cynthia Yockey Rulez!! Letterman and Maher drool!!
Obama is a slick Chicago politician
You DID fix the Y2K bug on your computer, right? This is 2009, not 1909. Next, you’ll be whining about how Howard Dean is taking orders from Tammany Hall.
You ever heard of a gal named Cynthia Yockey?
No, and neither has wikipedia.
Note that AO began his argument that Republicans were unfairly singled out for focusing on ethnic and cultural differences. he ends his argument clearly stating that he is willing to pit one ethnic group against another to have a Republican win.
AO was incapable of stating what the GOP should do with the racists in it’s ranks, because deep in his heart AO realized that the race card will have to be played by the GOP to win victories on the national stage.
The structure of the GOP means that the party has to embrace the racists.
but like I said, thanks for dodging my straightforward question re: you and your party’s problem with bigotry. –Jaim
And you, sir, need to address your own bigotry before you can even begin to understand it in other people. Whether you think Taco Bell is Mexican food or not, the fact is you clearly demean restaurant workers, and at a time when this country is approaching double digit unemployment and even some of the smartest and most qualified among us are having trouble finding jobs.
Your Republican father was kind enough and fortunate enough to be able cut a very large check for your Sidwell Friends, college and post-graduate educations. Not everyone else is as fortunate. It doesn’t mean they are lower than you, nor should they be the butt of your jokes.
‘I haven’t seen the evidence of the ignorance on the one hand or the brilliance on the other. Obama is a slick Chicago politician but that isn’t a sign of brilliance, cunning maybe.
If it isn’t right to call Obama a monkey it wasn’t right to call Bush one either. The fact that it stings a little more with Obama is ironic but doen’t excuse the barbs thrown at Bush first now does it.’
You couldn’t be making this any easier;
Bush coked his way through Yale on the strength of his family name and connections, has a limited grasp of the English language, and displayed repeated ignorance throughout his Iraq adventure about the cultural and religious makeup of that nation.
Obama went to Harvard on an academic scholarship, was president of the Law Revue, has written 3 masterfully articulate bestsellers without the aid of a ghostwriter, and ran the most successful Presidential campaign in the history of the country, all while the likes of you were suggesting that he was a lightweight.
I’ll grant you that neither should be called a monkey, but my point, which you willfully ignore, is that calling Bush a monkey was based on his simian BEHAVIOUR, not appearance, while calling Obama a monkey is based solely on his appearance, and is a well known racial slur.
Care to continue to defend it? Of course you will.
Just goes to show you why WikiPedia sucks…
Meet Ms. Cynthia Yockey
No they didn’t make us do it, they just showed us the way.
… and we will do anything, anything to win. No matter how much it pains us. And it does pain us. Like, a lot. Because we are, you know, the party of principles …
How is your bigotry toward Hispanics acceptable behavior to you?
Squirrel!
Duros, if I’m tiresome, take a mental health break for yourself and resist the urge to respond to questions I ask other posters here.
If public healthcare goes the way it is in England it will be rationed for old people.
It won’t.
Well thats good to know, do you have any special insight or is that wishful thinking. I take it you aren’t aquainted with the contents of Tom Daschel’s views back when he was still Obama’s point man on health care.
Dennis, I’ve been reading Oliver’s site for over 4 years. I don’t see why you think you have the license to just dominate every thread with your bullshit and insult long-time readers and commenters. I’ve put up with idiots like you for quite some time. Hell, we all have. And they come and they go.
Sooner or later, you are gonna say something that gets you banned from Oliver’s site (which is rare), or you’ll get so tired of taking a beat-down every day, you’ll just slip away.
Whatever the case, I am done talking to you, sir. If I could figure out greasemonkey script, you’d be eating pie right now.
Tom Daschel’s views are no longer relevant, are they? Move on.
Take note that both AO and Dennis have yet to confront racism within the GOP. That fact that they will not speaks volumes about the make up of the GOP.
You ever heard of a gal named Cynthia Yockey?
How exactly is Cynthia Yockey any different than your bread and butter conservative wingnut?
She’s well versed in Democrat political tactics.
That’s code for “lesbian.”
She’s well versed in Democrat political tactics.
Leaving aside what you think “Democrat political tactics” are, still, I ask, so what?
Is she running for office? Is she in a leadership position in the GOP?
All I see on her blog is more of the same talking points that can be found on every wing nut blog.
What, exactly, makes her worthy of note?
Public healthcare is meant to be government funded, not government run. Like Medicare vs. the VA. One runs pretty well, often cited as the most efficient government program there is. The other, not so much.
What, exactly, makes her worthy of note?
She seems to have latched on to this Letterman business as her ticket reich-blog stardom.
Otherwise I think what really brings a smile to the face of Frank and AO is they think that because she’s a Lesbian our liberal heads will explode when we try to disagree with her. As usual they’re sadly mistaken.
But I love the fact that the wingnuts are going all teabag on Dave. It means that no really serious part of their agenda is getting any traction.
If public healthcare goes the way it is in England it will be rationed for old people.
If we nationalize healthcare here in the US of A, you can bet your sweet ass that we’ll do it better than those damn brits! and the canucks! Where’s your patriotic spirit? U-S-A! U-S-A!
Dennis, I’ve been reading Oliver’s site for over 4 years. I don’t see why you think you have the license to just dominate every thread with your bullshit and insult long-time readers and commenters. Duros62
Duros- If the protocol here is not to bullshit or insult, I can accept that and gladly play by those rules, but it should apply to everybody. If you can show me an example of an instance where I insulted you before you insulted me first, I will apologize for that, but for some reason you seem to think length of customer loyalty here grants you an exemption from return fire. I can accept that too if them’s the rules, but mostly my posts (and insults) are just that, responses.
Pointing out that you are attempting to change the subject and dodge a question is insulting to you?
Dennis
June 17, 2009 at 11:23 am
Is David Letterman running for something? No? STFU. Take your false equivalence and go home. Duros62
“They always talk who never think.”
—Matthew Prior
Was what I said insulting to you?
What, exactly, makes her worthy of note?
They can Zell Miller-ize her. That’s about it.
Pointing out that you are attempting to change the subject and dodge a question is insulting to you? Duros
Wait a second, you admonish me for trying to dominate a thread, and then accuse me of dodging a question when I don’t respond to all of them? So what you’re really upset about is I didn’t choose to answer the ones you wanted me to, isn’t that it?
Is David Letterman running for something? No? STFU. Take your false equivalence and go home. Duros62
They always talk who never think.”
—Matthew Prior
Was what I said insulting to you? –Duros62
Yes. Maybe not the STFU since that’s as commonplace in liberal blogs as a Hitler invocation when they’ve lost an argument, but the take your false equivalency and go home’, while also as commonplace as the Hitler comparisons, I did consider an insult. At least worthy of a retort.
And what, you didn’t like the quote I provided?
Cynthia Yockey Rulez!! Letterman and Maher drool!!
It’s official. Frank has gone senile.
“Your Republican father was kind enough and fortunate enough to be able cut a very large check for your Sidwell Friends, college and post-graduate educations.”
WTF are you talking about, Dennis? I was on scholarships for the most part, and my parents split up when I was quite young.
I’ve asked you to stop making presumptions about my personal life, and you won’t. So I’m going to continue reminding everyone here that you don’t even have a goddamn job.
Typical Republican welfare queen. And a raging bigot to boot.
Have fun remaining irrelevant, Dennis. Just don’t go on a racial shooting spree, please.
So I’m going to continue reminding everyone here that you don’t even have a goddamn job.
Let’s pretend that I don’t, Jaim. Would being unemployed be ignoble in your view, like you think fast-food restaurant employees are. Your insertion of the word ‘even’ into that sentence proves that obviously you do.
Or is it just Republicans that are either of those that you’d degrade? Is that where you draw the line to your bigotry, along the political spectrum?
You’d fight for minimum wage increases because it’s the liberal thing to do, even though you scorn them for being in that situation, but as long as they bring Democrats more votes it’s ok, isn’t it?
You wear hypocrisy quite well, Jaim. It’s a good color on you.
LOL Jaim,
While many Americans are uneasy about employment prospects not many have shown your determination to keep yourself employed. Unable to find work in good times you emigrated to a place where your skillset was finally able to render you suitable for employment. Congratulations on your grit and finally being able to put that degree to work.
You have to work to receive minimum wage. Jesus, is your lizard-brain even capable of making the simplest of logical statements?
“Unable to find work in good times”
2008 was not a good time in America, economically speaking. I had a job, I moved to find a better one. Why does that bother you guys so much? That I’ve got the educational background and professional skills to get paid to live abroad and experience life in another country? And that I’m really enjoying it? I mean really, it bothers the hell out of you guys, the fact that neither of you would last five minutes in another country, let alone thrive and make a living there. Very sad and pathetic, but not unexpected.
LOL,
Personally I already spent my time in a foriegn country running a crew. But you were bitching about having to take the job before you left and have complained about not being able to get a decent paying job in the states after you left.
So what was your point about Dennis again?
Dennis can’t even find a job. And he’s a bigot.
You? You just keep making things up about me, and that’s annoying. Bush ruined the American economy, I moved for better opportunities. This obviously bothers you and you should either a)state exactly why or b) take it to e-mail with me.
It’s obvious that the GOP is a dying party in no small party due to its racist legacy and racist members like yourself and “Liebowitz” Dennis. And your response? Indulging in your personal obsession with me. Honestly, it’s creeping me out a bit. I’m spoken for AO. I’m also straight, and not really into 80 year-olds. Sorry, Sparky. Look to fulfill your man-crushes elsewhere.
LOL,
Don’t flatter yourself boy wonder. I’ve been to your website twice in my life. I do however have a good memory and get a bit of enjoyment out of calling bullshit on an insolent young pup like yourself. Put any spin on your life story you want, it isn’t like I expect you to be honest about what you’ve written. That’s not the way you roll.
Apparently, Jaim, some of our friends believe that Amurika is the only place worth living.
AO has only stalked me twice in my life. Do I get a medal? Does he invite me to visit him in his iron lung and oxygen tank? Now I’m curious.
LOL,
If you’re so thin skinned that you consider that stalking perhaps you shouldn’t have your name be a link to your site.
AO, please stop forgetting to take your meds. And a diaper change wouldn’t hurt either.
LOL,
Well that was a withering retort. It makes you seem so grown up.
“Chalupa” Jaim, who declares that restaurant work is beneath him, blog-whores here, claims anyone who reads his blog and questions his sorry lot in life and just why it is he’s so miserable, is stalking him. Then he proceeds to request that they e-mail him.
Quite strange behavior from a quite strange young boy.
So a right wing eliminitationist, “Amused Observer”, who thinks violence is the answer to a shocking number of problems and expresses sympathy with terrorists (as long as they are white), is being defended by the unemployed right wing racist “Dennis”?
“Dennis”, if you want to convince people that you aren’t a threat to other people, it would help if you didn’t associate with stalkers who advocate violent extremism like “Amused Observer” does.
News Reference peddles blatant lies about Rush Limbaugh never apologizing for the Chelsea Clinton picture malfunction because he only reads far-left wing blogs who accept comment section posts as Gospel, then when faced with hard evidence as proof to the contrary as challenges to his lies scurries away in shamed cowardice, only to reappear on other threads with more lies.
News Reference knows that he has no case unless he makes things up. News Reference knows when he has been shamed he can always resort to calling those who shame him ‘racists’. Much like “Chalupa” Jaim, who he defends, and CS Strowbridge, he prides himself on resorting to making up falsehoods that people who shame him do not have a job, a if that would somehow make him superior, when it really only shows his bigotry.
I haven’t been without a job since I was about 14 years old, Newsie, not counting college days, and even while in grad school. Pop didn’t send me off to Sidwell Friends to turn me into a anti-American weasel ingrate with anger issues who leaves the country in shame and shakes his fist at people who work hard and scoff at his government hand-out mentality while he belittles the same people he wants the hand-outs given to.
I can see why you defend him, Newsie. Two peas in the same pod.
Jaim and Newsie: Two bitching blood brothers of blatant bias and bigotry.
The increasingly angry right wing stalker “Dennis” is starting to lash out at shadows.
Why do you keep making things up, “Dennis”? It just makes you look either deceitful or dumb (or both).
Just because you cite a right wing website that makes false claims doesn’t mean anyone should take it as “evidence” of anything other than your own gullibility (and/or willingness to be deceitful).
And why do you keep lashing out when your falsehoods are revealed, “Dennis”? It just makes you look violent and angry.
I suppose on the upside it’s fortunate that you didn’t have the courage to join the American military.
Anger issues and fear-based ‘reasoning’ like yours endangers American troops overseas.
Ah, projection from the Right. Too dumb or too afraid to live abroad? Both? You be the judge!
LOL,
So was it brilliance or bravado that sent you overseas? Oh wait, it was in your own words, the inability to find a decent paying job in your native land.
News Reference,the Baltimore Sun is not a right-wing website, and you provide no refutation to proof I provided that what you said repeatedly was a lie, even though I make no bones whatsoever that you did lie, and in fact, are, a bald-faced liar.
Sorry, but that’s just chickenshit behavior of the highest order.
If you provided irrefutable evidence, or any evidence, that what you claimed was in fact true, and I was proven wrong, I’d have no qualms about admitting that error. But you never do that, you just recycle conspiracy tidbits and garbage from far-left comments sections of far-left blogs or else link to Google searches of two key word combinations and pretend that you proved a point.
That’s just laziness, and it only furthers the partially biased opinion that all liberals are malcontent, lazy whiners who never follow up on their Bravo Sierra when challenged.
Too dumb or too afraid to live abroad? Both?– “Hot or Mild Sauce with your Chalupa” Jaim
Too many reasons to list here, Mr. “You don’t even have a job” Jaim, but sorry, stupidity or fear have nothing to do with it. If I had the mindset that it was all about me, like it’s glaringly obvious you have, I might consider it. But I don’t, never have, and never will.
I don’t just pretend to care about other people on the one hand, while demeaning them as if they are inferior on the other.
Potty mouth right wing stalker “Dennis” stomps his feet, whines, and spouts obscenities because his right wing falsehoods aren’t accepted.
What is your obsession with protecting the bigoted, misogynistic racist Rush Limbaugh, anyways? Which part of his degenerate career are you a fan of?
Rush Limbaugh, Republican leader: A mean, sleazy, philandering, drug addict without a conscience who attacked a 13 year old girl and goes on international sx tours.
THAT’S the guy you are protecting.
LOL,
So was it brilliance or bravado that sent you overseas? Oh wait, it was in your own words, the inability to find a decent paying job in your native land. AO
Not his quote but no one said it better than Andy Griffith:
“Oh what a tangled web we weave, when we practice to deceive.”
Jaim can’t remember his deceptions.
The palest ink is better than the best memory, “Chalupa” Jaim.
What is your obsession with protecting the bigoted, misogynistic racist Rush Limbaugh, anyways? Which part of his degenerate career are you a fan of? –”Liberal Blogs’ News Reference”
I believe that one should not have to resort to lies to make a case against anyone, no matter what. You come here and pretend to share that belief, only selectively. Every belief you have is selective. You’d have no qualms in allowing Rush Limbaugh waterboarded if you could, such is the degree of your selective beliefs, News Liar.
For some reason it seems to upset people here when falsehoods about Rush Limbaugh are dispelled as largely fabricated out of bits and pieces put together dishonestly, like what you have done and refuse to explain yourself over. For some reason you think that’s protecting someone; someone you believe deserves no defense. You believe KSM and bin Ladin deserve a defense, but not the the All-Knowing, All-Sensing, All-Everything Maha Rushie; defender of motherhood, protector of fatherhood and an all-around good guy.
Republican leader Rush Limbaugh is a racist: “Take that bone out of your nose and call me back.”
Republican leader Rush Limbaugh misogynist: “Feminazi”.
What’s especially toxic about that term is that the casual use of the word “Nazi” trivializes the atrocities committed during the Nazi regime.
But Rush Limbaugh is a known drug addicted Republican leader who was caught trying to illegally smuggle drugs into the country, so what does he care about trivializes a genocide?
Limbaugh has even been credibly accused of sx tourism.
And still Republican Vice President Dick Cheney would chose leader Limbaugh, who managed to evade service, over an American combat vet.
THAT’S YOUR Republican Party Leadership: Degenerates.
And that doesn’t even mention Republican Limbaugh’s abandonment of ? how many wives. Nor does it include Republican leader Limbaugh’s attack of a 13 year old girl.
Again, which part of Republican Limbaugh’s degeneracy appeals to you, “Dennis”? The racism? The misogyny? The drugs? The philandering? The attack of a 13 year old girl?
get a bit of enjoyment out of calling bullshit on an insolent young pup like yourself.
You better be wearing an onion on your belt when you say that, pardner.
Again, which part of Republican Limbaugh’s degeneracy appeals to you, “Dennis”? The racism? The misogyny? The drugs? The philandering? The attack of a 13 year old girl? –News
Funny, you dump all kinds of your crap on this place but you won’t explain, defend, verify or even retract the one huge turd you dropped that I proved you to be lying about.
So what does News Reference do? Comes back and lays more turds.
You linked to Greenwald, but he does not even mention Limbaugh. I was thinking to myself when you linked to him that here’s one guy that even though I disagree politically, wouldn’t resort to blatant falsehoods and pieced together bits of mainly unverifiable information to weave a narrative about Limbaugh to add to the liberal folklore that people like you crave and regurgitate on left-wing blogs, like you, Mr. ed and CSS do routinely. But no, Greenwald doesn’t mention Limbaugh.
The bone out of your nose canard? Funny how you three musketeers all always have to supply a google link, since none of the stories on that page can supply any evidence other than one reporter’s ‘memory’ from like 1972, or something. He recalls that he’s pretty sure he heard Limbaugh say that. Good one, News Reference. God, that name, news reference. At least now I have a better appreciation for why Fox’s masthead bugs liberals so much.
Feminazi? So what? He does more to further women’s causes than the women he was referring to. Especially back when he coined the phrase, when NOW was not only silent about Bill Clinton’s serial molestation of women, but they essentially condoned it. ‘Every man gets should be allowed one grope’? Gloria Steinem? Hello.
Drug dependency on prescribed pain killers? I feel sorry for him for that. I don’t wish it upon anyone. Not you, even.
And ‘credibly accused of sex tourism’? I don’t know what ‘credibly accused’ even means. I looked it up in the liberal dictionary but there’s nothing there. I’m ‘credibly accusing’ you of being a bald-faced liar and a coward for not having the stones to own up to it. Instead you give me more crap that ISN”T credible.
I could ask the same verification from you for the ‘take that bone out of your nose’ canard you represent as the truth and you’d be just as hard-pressed to come with anything as you did with your Chelsea Clinton apology lie, but I’ve already done it to the point of embarrassment with ed and CSS already.
At least they tried.
Duros,
I don’t have any idea what you mean by onion but I’ll speak my mind as I see fit and ignore or engage anyone in any manner I desire at my choosing. Pardner.
I don’t have any idea what you mean by onion
Google is your friend.
Geez, can’t even joke around here anymore.
Internet Tradition Fail!
Google is my friend and I can see that Duros remark was a jest without malice.