Ah, pure ultra-con debate tactics, how fascinating.

Since you have decided to inject yourself into this conversation perhaps you can do me a favor and explain how this:

We would never negotiate with such a repressive regime. Iran stands in stark contrast with the modern, open society represented by our friends and allies the Saudis, whose national passion for democracy, women’s rights and religious freedom surpasses even our own.

makes sense as a response to this:

Sure, if you consider a country where a religious Council of Guardians approves the candidates to be a democracy.

Translation: I don’t understand what you said, therefore, you are wrong.

Ah, pure ultra-con debate tactics, how fascinating.

See?

What strawman did I take down?

This post seems to be arguing with something I never said, which is par for the course around here. Show me where I said we shouldn’t talk to Iran. Show me where I said anything about US policy towards Iran.

I pointed out that Iran is not a true democracy. I stand by that.

I have no idea what you are trying to say here. I am not sure you do either.

I don’t think that my point — that Iran isn’t a true democracy — is very controversial.

Actually, he did. You see, the original point is that someone claimed you couldn’t negotiate with Iran because it was repressive, but someone said that they are at the head of the class in the Middle East.

Note. No one said they were perfect. No one is claiming that.

So Colin is merely fighting strawmen and RR actually showed that compared to other states in the area, states the Unites States has no issue dealing with, Iran is ahead of the curve. Therefore, if you can deal with Saudi Arabia, you can deal with Iran.

See?

Ouch RR; that is some bang on satire amigo.

Good job Captain Banal.

But enough of that, what’s your inflation hedge you mentioned the other day?

We would never negotiate with such a repressive regime. Iran stands in stark contrast with the modern, open society represented by our friends and allies the Saudis, whose national passion for democracy, women’s rights and religious freedom surpasses even our own.

Thanks for your post. Maybe there’s hope for this world after all. Based on what I’ve read, there’s no clear call on whether the election was really a sham or not. But if the BBC says its a sham, then it’s a sham!

Isn’t it a shame that we Americans who tout our freedom of the press seem to live in a press-free zone sometimes? Or maybe, given our relationship with the Iranians, it would be in poor taste for us to jump too hard on the Mousavi bandwagon just yet. It might jinx him to have us western monsters give our endorsement.

Yes we can!

As to what is going on in Iran now – one thing is CLEAR – the IDEA of Iran as a “democracy” as long as you are a “Bat-Shit Crazy Religious Fanatic Moron” has been exposed BY THE SILENT (NOT SO MUCH ANY LONGER) MAJORITY as being a total SHAM. This COUP against the COUP will be step one in the destroying the whole sick religious mess that is Iran.

Obama’s message of “yes we can” continues to reverberate around the world. Here in Canada we’ll be having an election early summer or fall – lets hope our “progressives” can crush the Harper government and give the Obama wave another victory!

Sure, if you consider a country where a religious Council of Guardians approves the candidates to be a democracy.

But only up to 10 times, because that’s how many fingers can be marked with purple ink to stop you voting again before you run out of fingers!

Oh wait …

If you had a functioning media in the US, you might know these things.

Surely the fact that Iran has the middle east’s most participated in democracy…

Vote early, vote often!

Although, it is good for McCain. To wit;

Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) condemned the Iranian election as a “sham,” declaring, “I hope that we will act.”

Whaddya suggest we do, Johnny Thunder?

So how can they be “blamed” on Obama. If anything, they should be CREDITED to Obama if one were so inclined.

Or do I have to explain the difference between blaming and crediting?