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		<title>By: News Reference</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/11/the-hate-chain/#comment-156774</link>
		<dc:creator>News Reference</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 10:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right wing stalker troll &quot;Amused Observer&quot; is fine with right wing terrorism in America.

Instead of addressing &lt;i&gt;existing&lt;/i&gt; right wing terrorism in America, the right winger has repeatedly tried to change the subject by repeatedly demanding a &lt;i&gt;future hypothetical&lt;/i&gt; act of aggression in a &lt;i&gt;foreign&lt;/i&gt; nation be addressed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right wing stalker troll &#8220;Amused Observer&#8221; is fine with right wing terrorism in America.</p>
<p>Instead of addressing <i>existing</i> right wing terrorism in America, the right winger has repeatedly tried to change the subject by repeatedly demanding a <i>future hypothetical</i> act of aggression in a <i>foreign</i> nation be addressed.</p>
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		<title>By: Amused Observer</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/11/the-hate-chain/#comment-156733</link>
		<dc:creator>Amused Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 01:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>News,
No Dude you just don&#039;t get it.  Most of what you write looks like it comes off a template.  
    


     RIGHT WINGER &quot;insert name&quot; bla bla bla
bla bla bla EVIL RACIST &quot;insert name&quot; bla bla bla
bla bla bla &quot;insert adjective&quot; RIGHT WINGER &quot;insert name&quot;
etc. etc. etc.

You used to have a 3 part signature regarding Israel.  Weeks ago I asked you a reasonable question, What should Israel do, if after complying with your 3 part policy, she is still subject to islamic aggression?

You repeatedly ignored the question, always moving the goal posts, changing the subject etc.  Never answering the question.

&quot;Right wing eliminationist “Amused Observer’s” efforts are entirely meant to change the subject away from how the right wing’s extremism has degenerated into right wing terrorism in America.&quot;

Apologizing for the thread hijack, let me be perfectly clear my purpose here now is not related to the subject of right wing terrorism.  I have already addressed that topic above.  My purpose here is to call bullshit on you for never answering the question.  This is just the thread I found you in.    

Your obvious trolling for bloghits and templated responses are barely worth responding to under the best of circumstances.  Your refusal to ever put an idea out there or defend your ideas makes you one of the most trivial posters here.  

So until you come across with the goods, specifically answering the question, I can&#039;t hear you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>News,<br />
No Dude you just don&#8217;t get it.  Most of what you write looks like it comes off a template.  </p>
<p>     RIGHT WINGER &#8220;insert name&#8221; bla bla bla<br />
bla bla bla EVIL RACIST &#8220;insert name&#8221; bla bla bla<br />
bla bla bla &#8220;insert adjective&#8221; RIGHT WINGER &#8220;insert name&#8221;<br />
etc. etc. etc.</p>
<p>You used to have a 3 part signature regarding Israel.  Weeks ago I asked you a reasonable question, What should Israel do, if after complying with your 3 part policy, she is still subject to islamic aggression?</p>
<p>You repeatedly ignored the question, always moving the goal posts, changing the subject etc.  Never answering the question.</p>
<p>&#8220;Right wing eliminationist “Amused Observer’s” efforts are entirely meant to change the subject away from how the right wing’s extremism has degenerated into right wing terrorism in America.&#8221;</p>
<p>Apologizing for the thread hijack, let me be perfectly clear my purpose here now is not related to the subject of right wing terrorism.  I have already addressed that topic above.  My purpose here is to call bullshit on you for never answering the question.  This is just the thread I found you in.    </p>
<p>Your obvious trolling for bloghits and templated responses are barely worth responding to under the best of circumstances.  Your refusal to ever put an idea out there or defend your ideas makes you one of the most trivial posters here.  </p>
<p>So until you come across with the goods, specifically answering the question, I can&#8217;t hear you.</p>
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		<title>By: News Reference</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/11/the-hate-chain/#comment-156731</link>
		<dc:creator>News Reference</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 23:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right wing eliminationist &quot;Amused Observer&#039;s&quot; efforts are entirely meant to change the subject away from how the right wing&#039;s extremism has degenerated into right wing terrorism &lt;b&gt;in&lt;/b&gt; &lt;i&gt;America&lt;/i&gt;.

Instead of addressing right wing terrorism &lt;b&gt;in&lt;/b&gt; America, the right winger now wants to deflect the issue to right wing terrorism &lt;i&gt;overseas&lt;/i&gt;.

It&#039;s a way of deflecting responsibility for the terrorism done by his right wing ideological allies.

If right winger &quot;Amused Observer&quot; had any integrity (or a shred of patriotism) he would directly address the pattern of right wing terrorism instead of trying to protect those terrorists by changing the subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right wing eliminationist &#8220;Amused Observer&#8217;s&#8221; efforts are entirely meant to change the subject away from how the right wing&#8217;s extremism has degenerated into right wing terrorism <b>in</b> <i>America</i>.</p>
<p>Instead of addressing right wing terrorism <b>in</b> America, the right winger now wants to deflect the issue to right wing terrorism <i>overseas</i>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a way of deflecting responsibility for the terrorism done by his right wing ideological allies.</p>
<p>If right winger &#8220;Amused Observer&#8221; had any integrity (or a shred of patriotism) he would directly address the pattern of right wing terrorism instead of trying to protect those terrorists by changing the subject.</p>
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		<title>By: Amused Observer</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/11/the-hate-chain/#comment-156727</link>
		<dc:creator>Amused Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 23:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Newsie,
You were so close, so close to actually answering the question.
But somehow courage failed you and the question goes unanswered.
I&#039;m still waiting and have been for several weeks.  The ball is in your court.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Newsie,<br />
You were so close, so close to actually answering the question.<br />
But somehow courage failed you and the question goes unanswered.<br />
I&#8217;m still waiting and have been for several weeks.  The ball is in your court.</p>
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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/11/the-hate-chain/#comment-156722</link>
		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 21:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;but is a pussy when he’s up against bigger marks he likes - like Pat Buchanan. &lt;/i&gt;

Exactly. I wanna bust Pat Buchannan in the mouth much of the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>but is a pussy when he’s up against bigger marks he likes &#8211; like Pat Buchanan. </i></p>
<p>Exactly. I wanna bust Pat Buchannan in the mouth much of the time.</p>
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		<title>By: News Reference</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/11/the-hate-chain/#comment-156721</link>
		<dc:creator>News Reference</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I&#039;ve said before, I&#039;m a independent with a conservative streak.

I find &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.HavenWorks.com/terrorism&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;terrorism&lt;/a&gt; abhorrent and see violent rhetoric as it&#039;s root, whether it&#039;s jihadist rhetoric or fatwas or even just Republican &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?q=Palin+Obama+terrorist&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sarah Palin using a paint roller to paint a bullseye on the opposition with her malignant &quot;terrorist&quot; comments&lt;/a&gt;.

To me, right wing terrorists include people who blow up &lt;a href=&quot;http://HavenWorks.com/health/abortion&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;abortion&lt;/a&gt; clinics, assassinate Doctors, &lt;i&gt;as well as&lt;/i&gt; use themselves as human bombs.

Your comments in other threads, &quot;Amused Observer&quot;, seem about as oblique as calls to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?q=Rwanda+%22cut+down+the+tall+trees%22&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;cut down the tall trees&quot;&lt;/a&gt;.

You&#039;ve explicitly said that you see war as a first solution.

I see war as a last resort.

If you want an answer, &#039;man up&#039;, as you say, and answer my questions.

I understand that your loyalty to a foreign nation means that you want an answer to &lt;i&gt;their&lt;/i&gt; nation&#039;s problems with right wing terrorists.

I&#039;m asking you to show a little loyalty to &lt;i&gt;our&lt;/i&gt; nation and address the problems &lt;i&gt;we&lt;/i&gt; have with right wing terrorists.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I&#8217;ve said before, I&#8217;m a independent with a conservative streak.</p>
<p>I find <a href="http://www.HavenWorks.com/terrorism" rel="nofollow">terrorism</a> abhorrent and see violent rhetoric as it&#8217;s root, whether it&#8217;s jihadist rhetoric or fatwas or even just Republican <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=Palin+Obama+terrorist" rel="nofollow">Sarah Palin using a paint roller to paint a bullseye on the opposition with her malignant &#8220;terrorist&#8221; comments</a>.</p>
<p>To me, right wing terrorists include people who blow up <a href="http://HavenWorks.com/health/abortion" rel="nofollow">abortion</a> clinics, assassinate Doctors, <i>as well as</i> use themselves as human bombs.</p>
<p>Your comments in other threads, &#8220;Amused Observer&#8221;, seem about as oblique as calls to <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=Rwanda+%22cut+down+the+tall+trees%22" rel="nofollow">&#8220;cut down the tall trees&#8221;</a>.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve explicitly said that you see war as a first solution.</p>
<p>I see war as a last resort.</p>
<p>If you want an answer, &#8216;man up&#8217;, as you say, and answer my questions.</p>
<p>I understand that your loyalty to a foreign nation means that you want an answer to <i>their</i> nation&#8217;s problems with right wing terrorists.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m asking you to show a little loyalty to <i>our</i> nation and address the problems <i>we</i> have with right wing terrorists.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/11/the-hate-chain/#comment-156719</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:35:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to correct you, AO, likely someone far snarkier than me surely would if I didn&#039;t, but I think you meant that News Reference writes &#039;disconnected drivel&#039;.

His disconnected dribble is the yellow liquid that appears below his computer desk on the floor of his basement when he first finds out about a lone wacko extremist committing a murder that he can then go to work on conjuring up baseless connections to his hated &#039;right-wingers&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to correct you, AO, likely someone far snarkier than me surely would if I didn&#8217;t, but I think you meant that News Reference writes &#8216;disconnected drivel&#8217;.</p>
<p>His disconnected dribble is the yellow liquid that appears below his computer desk on the floor of his basement when he first finds out about a lone wacko extremist committing a murder that he can then go to work on conjuring up baseless connections to his hated &#8216;right-wingers&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Amused Observer</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/11/the-hate-chain/#comment-156715</link>
		<dc:creator>Amused Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL Newsie,
You already owe me an answer that you wan&#039;t come across with, because you can&#039;t, would be my guess. 

Answer up, I&#039;ve several weeks on you in the waiting game.  

Many folks probably don&#039;t care much for me here in OllieLand but nobody pays any attention to your disconnected dribble.  You are obviously hoping for traffic to your pathetic blogsite.  You&#039;re a leftist, most folks here are leftist and even they don&#039;t have much use for you.  Face it you&#039;re never going to make it into the bigs.  


Now how about manning up and answering the question?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL Newsie,<br />
You already owe me an answer that you wan&#8217;t come across with, because you can&#8217;t, would be my guess. </p>
<p>Answer up, I&#8217;ve several weeks on you in the waiting game.  </p>
<p>Many folks probably don&#8217;t care much for me here in OllieLand but nobody pays any attention to your disconnected dribble.  You are obviously hoping for traffic to your pathetic blogsite.  You&#8217;re a leftist, most folks here are leftist and even they don&#8217;t have much use for you.  Face it you&#8217;re never going to make it into the bigs.  </p>
<p>Now how about manning up and answering the question?</p>
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		<title>By: News Reference</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/11/the-hate-chain/#comment-156711</link>
		<dc:creator>News Reference</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To repeat my question, “Amused Observer”, what will we as Americans do if right wing terrorists continue to act violently?

How will we stop this right wing aggression?

What do you propose we do about it? Be specific.

And again, do you feel that your violent, eliminationist approach to problem solving is part of what is encouraging domestic right wing terrorism?

If not, why not?

You&#039;ve explicitly explained your racist hierarchy of races and loudly hinted at final solutions to some problems.

Don&#039;t you think that right wing racist eliminationist &lt;b&gt;rhetoric like yours deliberately encourages terrorists&lt;/b&gt; like &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?q=James+Von+Brunn+right+wing+terrorist&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;James Von Brunn&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://HavenWorks.com/people/a-z/a/adkisson-jim-david&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Jim Adkisson&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?q=Richard+Poplawski+right+wing+terrorist&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Richard Poplawski&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?q=Scott+Roeder+right+wing+terrorist&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Scott Roeder&lt;/a&gt;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To repeat my question, “Amused Observer”, what will we as Americans do if right wing terrorists continue to act violently?</p>
<p>How will we stop this right wing aggression?</p>
<p>What do you propose we do about it? Be specific.</p>
<p>And again, do you feel that your violent, eliminationist approach to problem solving is part of what is encouraging domestic right wing terrorism?</p>
<p>If not, why not?</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve explicitly explained your racist hierarchy of races and loudly hinted at final solutions to some problems.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you think that right wing racist eliminationist <b>rhetoric like yours deliberately encourages terrorists</b> like <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=James+Von+Brunn+right+wing+terrorist" rel="nofollow">James Von Brunn</a>, <a href="http://HavenWorks.com/people/a-z/a/adkisson-jim-david" rel="nofollow">Jim Adkisson</a>, <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=Richard+Poplawski+right+wing+terrorist" rel="nofollow">Richard Poplawski</a>, and <a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=Scott+Roeder+right+wing+terrorist" rel="nofollow">Scott Roeder</a>?</p>
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		<title>By: Amused Observer</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/11/the-hate-chain/#comment-156710</link>
		<dc:creator>Amused Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL,

&quot;You’re hardly a reference for any real news, but just another bigoted, intolerant, hypocritical liberal blog commenter looking for an outlet for his frustrations. And like so very many other people just like you, winning the election did almost nothing to change that.&quot;

That is the most even tempered yet devestating analysis ever posted in OllieLand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL,</p>
<p>&#8220;You’re hardly a reference for any real news, but just another bigoted, intolerant, hypocritical liberal blog commenter looking for an outlet for his frustrations. And like so very many other people just like you, winning the election did almost nothing to change that.&#8221;</p>
<p>That is the most even tempered yet devestating analysis ever posted in OllieLand.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/11/the-hate-chain/#comment-156708</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;James Von Brunn is a right wing terrorist.

“Dennis” is a deceitful and malignant right wing extremist who is trying to change the subject.&lt;/i&gt;-- News Reference

&quot;News Reference&quot;, your posts here are little more than your mental diarrhea.   I can assure you, I am about as extremist as the elderly lady who checks your books out at the local public library.  Your views are far more extreme than mine.

Your problem, your frustrations and the reason for your having to post and repost essentially the same recyled pablum, is that you can never make an argument that isn&#039;t completely coated with your extreme bias and political opportunism, and you&#039;re not crafty enough, reasonable enough, nor intelligent enough to make it appear otherwise.  Your hatred for the opposition consumes you.   

You&#039;re hardly a reference for any real news, but just another bigoted, intolerant, hypocritical liberal blog commenter looking for an outlet for his frustrations. And like so very many other people just like you, winning the election did almost nothing to change that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>James Von Brunn is a right wing terrorist.</p>
<p>“Dennis” is a deceitful and malignant right wing extremist who is trying to change the subject.</i>&#8211; News Reference</p>
<p>&#8220;News Reference&#8221;, your posts here are little more than your mental diarrhea.   I can assure you, I am about as extremist as the elderly lady who checks your books out at the local public library.  Your views are far more extreme than mine.</p>
<p>Your problem, your frustrations and the reason for your having to post and repost essentially the same recyled pablum, is that you can never make an argument that isn&#8217;t completely coated with your extreme bias and political opportunism, and you&#8217;re not crafty enough, reasonable enough, nor intelligent enough to make it appear otherwise.  Your hatred for the opposition consumes you.   </p>
<p>You&#8217;re hardly a reference for any real news, but just another bigoted, intolerant, hypocritical liberal blog commenter looking for an outlet for his frustrations. And like so very many other people just like you, winning the election did almost nothing to change that.</p>
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		<title>By: lonya</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/11/the-hate-chain/#comment-156707</link>
		<dc:creator>lonya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not for nothing but Chris Matthews irks the hell out of me. Meaningless compound run-on sentences that go on for ever and contain multiple sub-question that he never lets the interviewee respond to.

Worse than that: he plays demagogue gotcha with easy marks while he smirks in satisfication but is a pussy when he&#039;s up against bigger marks he likes - like Pat Buchanan.  He bullies the people he can and just busters on aimlessly with the bigger fish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not for nothing but Chris Matthews irks the hell out of me. Meaningless compound run-on sentences that go on for ever and contain multiple sub-question that he never lets the interviewee respond to.</p>
<p>Worse than that: he plays demagogue gotcha with easy marks while he smirks in satisfication but is a pussy when he&#8217;s up against bigger marks he likes &#8211; like Pat Buchanan.  He bullies the people he can and just busters on aimlessly with the bigger fish.</p>
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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/11/the-hate-chain/#comment-156705</link>
		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:04:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;But if you don’t respond - it sitss there and people take it as gospel. Its amazing that people mistake opinion for fact and then make gospel out of it.&lt;/i&gt;

That&#039;s what bugs me the most about ALL the cable news networks. They have 24 hours to fill, so they just grab whoever they can to yak for 10 minutes to an hour and none of it has to be true, and viewers will just swallow it. And that goes from Fox to CNN to MSNBC. I have no more faith in Chris Matthews than I do Steve Douchy.

But we need to start somewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>But if you don’t respond &#8211; it sitss there and people take it as gospel. Its amazing that people mistake opinion for fact and then make gospel out of it.</i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s what bugs me the most about ALL the cable news networks. They have 24 hours to fill, so they just grab whoever they can to yak for 10 minutes to an hour and none of it has to be true, and viewers will just swallow it. And that goes from Fox to CNN to MSNBC. I have no more faith in Chris Matthews than I do Steve Douchy.</p>
<p>But we need to start somewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Indeed</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/11/the-hate-chain/#comment-156702</link>
		<dc:creator>Indeed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;His birther screed was posted approvingly at Free Republic.&lt;/i&gt; 

Pretty much all you need to know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>His birther screed was posted approvingly at Free Republic.</i> </p>
<p>Pretty much all you need to know.</p>
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		<title>By: lonya</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/11/the-hate-chain/#comment-156701</link>
		<dc:creator>lonya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;How do we convince the Limbaughs, Savages, Becks and O’Reillys (yes, even the Olbermanns) of the world to tone it down?&quot;

Beats me Duro (and I&#039;m saying that non-sarcastically). On the one hand, I always have a strong inclination to ignore the nuttiness on the theory that the thing these guys hate more than anything else is indifference.  On the other hand, if you don&#039;t hold people to account there&#039;s no way in the world any of these nattering nabobs is going to enter into sufficient self-reflection to tone it down because its the bombast that&#039;s driving their ratings and ad revenues.  So when you follow the arc of these guys careers (Limbaugh, Hannity Malkin, Coulter et al. [and if someone wants to name their correspondents on the other side so be it) you see the decibel level and wackiness level increase by what it feeds on.  People get sated so in order to keep it up - they get a little more crazy. 

And they are also terrific at using opposition (look at how I&#039;m driving those libs crazy) to solidify their base.
But if you don&#039;t respond - it sitss there and people take it as gospel.  Its amazing that people mistake opinion for fact and then make gospel out of it.

So the natrual tendency is to match it for intensity and virulence.  It can be satisfying that&#039;s for sure - and I&#039;ve done that on boards from time to time.  Now in our little corner of the universe in a small circle (relatively of people who comment here or there) its kind of immaterial.

But out there in the general conversation - I&#039;m not sure its healthy.

Again though - I don&#039;t know how one needs to frame a response to this stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How do we convince the Limbaughs, Savages, Becks and O’Reillys (yes, even the Olbermanns) of the world to tone it down?&#8221;</p>
<p>Beats me Duro (and I&#8217;m saying that non-sarcastically). On the one hand, I always have a strong inclination to ignore the nuttiness on the theory that the thing these guys hate more than anything else is indifference.  On the other hand, if you don&#8217;t hold people to account there&#8217;s no way in the world any of these nattering nabobs is going to enter into sufficient self-reflection to tone it down because its the bombast that&#8217;s driving their ratings and ad revenues.  So when you follow the arc of these guys careers (Limbaugh, Hannity Malkin, Coulter et al. [and if someone wants to name their correspondents on the other side so be it) you see the decibel level and wackiness level increase by what it feeds on.  People get sated so in order to keep it up &#8211; they get a little more crazy. </p>
<p>And they are also terrific at using opposition (look at how I&#8217;m driving those libs crazy) to solidify their base.<br />
But if you don&#8217;t respond &#8211; it sitss there and people take it as gospel.  Its amazing that people mistake opinion for fact and then make gospel out of it.</p>
<p>So the natrual tendency is to match it for intensity and virulence.  It can be satisfying that&#8217;s for sure &#8211; and I&#8217;ve done that on boards from time to time.  Now in our little corner of the universe in a small circle (relatively of people who comment here or there) its kind of immaterial.</p>
<p>But out there in the general conversation &#8211; I&#8217;m not sure its healthy.</p>
<p>Again though &#8211; I don&#8217;t know how one needs to frame a response to this stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Amused Observer</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/11/the-hate-chain/#comment-156699</link>
		<dc:creator>Amused Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey News,
Calling you on your bullshit has nothing to do with supporting Israel or my feelings towards America.  

I am calling you out publicly to defend your position.
Your signature used to be a 3 part rant about Israel.  For several weeks you have repeatedly dodged the question.

Specifically what should Israel do if after complying with your 3 part solution she is again subject to islamic aggression?

Just answer the question unless as I suspect you don&#039;t have the intellectual chops.  I suspect you have no answer because you have never pushed your feeble liberal inflamed mind into the world of possible consequences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey News,<br />
Calling you on your bullshit has nothing to do with supporting Israel or my feelings towards America.  </p>
<p>I am calling you out publicly to defend your position.<br />
Your signature used to be a 3 part rant about Israel.  For several weeks you have repeatedly dodged the question.</p>
<p>Specifically what should Israel do if after complying with your 3 part solution she is again subject to islamic aggression?</p>
<p>Just answer the question unless as I suspect you don&#8217;t have the intellectual chops.  I suspect you have no answer because you have never pushed your feeble liberal inflamed mind into the world of possible consequences.</p>
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		<title>By: News Reference</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/11/the-hate-chain/#comment-156697</link>
		<dc:creator>News Reference</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Blue Texan&quot; over at Firedoglake does a brilliant job countering right wing nonsense about whether &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/11/irrefutable-proof-that-holocaust-museum-shooter-wasnt-one-of-dhss-right-wing-extremists/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;James von Brunn is a right wing extremist&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;:

&quot;1. He hates &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/11/us/11shoot.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the US government&lt;/a&gt;.
 2. He hates &lt;a href=&quot;http://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2009/06/11/james-von-brunn-evolutionist/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;liberals&lt;/a&gt;.
 3. He said President Obama was &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/06/11/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5081368.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;created by Jews&lt;/a&gt;.&quot;
 4. He believes Obama &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/documents/2009/06/james-w-von-brunn-obama-is-missing.php?page=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;wasn&#039;t born in the United States&lt;/a&gt;.
 5. He holds conspiratorial views about &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/06/11/national/main5081102.shtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the federal reserve&lt;/a&gt;.
 6. He feared the takeover of the country by &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2009/06/10/2009-06-10_holocaust_museum_shooter_james_von_brunns_exwife_says_his_racism_ate_him_alive.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;black governors&lt;/a&gt;.&quot;
 7. He was active in the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.philly.com/philly/wires/ap/news/state/pennsylvania/20090610_ap_whiteseparatistsaysvonbrunngaveawaycomputer.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;white separatist movement&lt;/a&gt;.
 8. He is an &lt;a href=&quot;http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/06/von_brunn_promoted_work_of_legendary_anti-semite.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;anti-Semite&lt;/a&gt;.
 9. He is &lt;a href=&quot;http://edition.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/06/10/dc.museum.shooting.suspect/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a known associate of William Pierce&lt;/a&gt;, author of &lt;i&gt;The Turner Diaries&lt;/i&gt;.
 10. He is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-06-10-shooter_N.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a known associate of Stan Hess&lt;/a&gt;, formerly of David Duke&#039;s European rights organization.
 11. His birther screed was posted approvingly &lt;a href=&quot;http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/10/brunn-holocaust-shooter/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;at Free Republic&lt;/a&gt;.
 12. He &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6473316.ece&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;idolized John G. Crommelin&lt;/a&gt;, a McCarthyite and segregationist who ran for Governor of Alabama for the ultra right-wing &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_States%27_Rights_Party&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;National States&#039; Rights Party&lt;/a&gt;.
 13. He calls himself a &quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:Sl63eVUl2o4J:www.holywesternempire.org/page2.html+von+brunn+white+christian&amp;cd=3&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;gl=us&amp;client=firefox-a&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;White Christian.&lt;/a&gt;&quot;&quot;

&lt;b&gt;James von Brunn is more than just a right wing extremist, he&#039;s a right wing terrorist.&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Blue Texan&#8221; over at Firedoglake does a brilliant job countering right wing nonsense about whether <b><a href="http://firedoglake.com/2009/06/11/irrefutable-proof-that-holocaust-museum-shooter-wasnt-one-of-dhss-right-wing-extremists/" rel="nofollow">James von Brunn is a right wing extremist</a></b>:</p>
<p>&#8220;1. He hates <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/11/us/11shoot.html" rel="nofollow">the US government</a>.<br />
 2. He hates <a href="http://sensuouscurmudgeon.wordpress.com/2009/06/11/james-von-brunn-evolutionist/" rel="nofollow">liberals</a>.<br />
 3. He said President Obama was &#8220;<a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/06/11/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5081368.shtml" rel="nofollow">created by Jews</a>.&#8221;<br />
 4. He believes Obama <a href="http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/documents/2009/06/james-w-von-brunn-obama-is-missing.php?page=1" rel="nofollow">wasn&#8217;t born in the United States</a>.<br />
 5. He holds conspiratorial views about <a href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/06/11/national/main5081102.shtml" rel="nofollow">the federal reserve</a>.<br />
 6. He feared the takeover of the country by &#8220;<a href="http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2009/06/10/2009-06-10_holocaust_museum_shooter_james_von_brunns_exwife_says_his_racism_ate_him_alive.html" rel="nofollow">black governors</a>.&#8221;<br />
 7. He was active in the <a href="http://www.philly.com/philly/wires/ap/news/state/pennsylvania/20090610_ap_whiteseparatistsaysvonbrunngaveawaycomputer.html" rel="nofollow">white separatist movement</a>.<br />
 8. He is an <a href="http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/06/von_brunn_promoted_work_of_legendary_anti-semite.php" rel="nofollow">anti-Semite</a>.<br />
 9. He is <a href="http://edition.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/06/10/dc.museum.shooting.suspect/" rel="nofollow">a known associate of William Pierce</a>, author of <i>The Turner Diaries</i>.<br />
 10. He is <a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-06-10-shooter_N.htm" rel="nofollow">a known associate of Stan Hess</a>, formerly of David Duke&#8217;s European rights organization.<br />
 11. His birther screed was posted approvingly <a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2009/06/10/brunn-holocaust-shooter/" rel="nofollow">at Free Republic</a>.<br />
 12. He <a href="http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6473316.ece" rel="nofollow">idolized John G. Crommelin</a>, a McCarthyite and segregationist who ran for Governor of Alabama for the ultra right-wing <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_States%27_Rights_Party" rel="nofollow">National States&#8217; Rights Party</a>.<br />
 13. He calls himself a &#8220;<a href="http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:Sl63eVUl2o4J:www.holywesternempire.org/page2.html+von+brunn+white+christian&amp;cd=3&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;gl=us&amp;client=firefox-a" rel="nofollow">White Christian.</a>&#8220;&#8221;</p>
<p><b>James von Brunn is more than just a right wing extremist, he&#8217;s a right wing terrorist.</b></p>
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		<title>By: News Reference</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/11/the-hate-chain/#comment-156696</link>
		<dc:creator>News Reference</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/search?q=James+Von+Brunn+right+wing+terrorist&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;James Von Brunn&lt;/a&gt; is a right wing terrorist.

&quot;Dennis&quot; is a deceitful and malignant right wing extremist who is trying to change the subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.google.com/search?q=James+Von+Brunn+right+wing+terrorist" rel="nofollow">James Von Brunn</a> is a right wing terrorist.</p>
<p>&#8220;Dennis&#8221; is a deceitful and malignant right wing extremist who is trying to change the subject.</p>
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		<title>By: SFC B</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/11/the-hate-chain/#comment-156691</link>
		<dc:creator>SFC B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I come to progressive blogs to discuss issues, not read threatening filth.&lt;/blockquote&gt;So far the only person to actually make a threat on this thread is PD100.  And in all the time I&#039;ve been commenting on here the only two people I&#039;ve seen make any threat, and it is only of the &quot;come here and say that to my face&quot; variety, have been Repack Rider and PD100.  But hey, I guess you can be forgiven for missing PD100&#039;s threat to another commenter, this is a long thread and the comment was posted a whopping... 10 comments above yours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I come to progressive blogs to discuss issues, not read threatening filth.</p></blockquote>
<p>So far the only person to actually make a threat on this thread is PD100.  And in all the time I&#8217;ve been commenting on here the only two people I&#8217;ve seen make any threat, and it is only of the &#8220;come here and say that to my face&#8221; variety, have been Repack Rider and PD100.  But hey, I guess you can be forgiven for missing PD100&#8242;s threat to another commenter, this is a long thread and the comment was posted a whopping&#8230; 10 comments above yours.</p>
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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/11/the-hate-chain/#comment-156689</link>
		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 16:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;At the same time I do think that there is room for a discussion about the impact that the tone and nature of our discourse has generally (talk radio, tv, internet) etc. on the actions of those who are a hair trigger away from nut-dom to begin with.&lt;/i&gt;

So how do we do that? How do we convince the Limbaughs, Savages, Becks and O&#039;Reillys (yes, even the Olbermanns) of the world to tone it down? How can we persuade them that there is no fire in the theater and it is irresponsible to speculate that there is, all the while secretly hoping for a fan boy in the audience with a bic lighter?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>At the same time I do think that there is room for a discussion about the impact that the tone and nature of our discourse has generally (talk radio, tv, internet) etc. on the actions of those who are a hair trigger away from nut-dom to begin with.</i></p>
<p>So how do we do that? How do we convince the Limbaughs, Savages, Becks and O&#8217;Reillys (yes, even the Olbermanns) of the world to tone it down? How can we persuade them that there is no fire in the theater and it is irresponsible to speculate that there is, all the while secretly hoping for a fan boy in the audience with a bic lighter?</p>
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