Comments on: Petraeus: Stephen Hayes Weekly Standard Story On Miranda For Detainees Isn’t True http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/11/petraeus-stephen-hayes-weekly-standard-story-on-miranda-for-detainees-isnt-true/ Like Kryptonite To Stupid Sat, 11 Feb 2012 06:30:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: bryan http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/11/petraeus-stephen-hayes-weekly-standard-story-on-miranda-for-detainees-isnt-true/#comment-156622 bryan Fri, 12 Jun 2009 00:48:06 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=14947#comment-156622 Robinson, If you swapped 'wife' for 'Meat' in your example, then the understanding might be clearer. Do you live near Craven Arms? Robinson, If you swapped ‘wife’ for ‘Meat’ in your example, then the understanding might be clearer. Do you live near Craven Arms?

]]> By: John C. Robinson of the Shropshire Robinsons http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/11/petraeus-stephen-hayes-weekly-standard-story-on-miranda-for-detainees-isnt-true/#comment-156517 John C. Robinson of the Shropshire Robinsons Thu, 11 Jun 2009 18:48:30 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=14947#comment-156517 "..the Obama Justice Department has quietly ordered FBI agents to read Miranda rights to high value detainees captured and held at U.S. detention facilities in Afghanistan.." is to "..there have been specific cases in which FBI agents have Mirandized suspects overseas, at both Bagram and in other situations, in order to preserve the quality of evidence obtained.." as "..Obama has secretly ordered you to start beating your wife.." is to "..there have been times when you have beaten your wife.." Does this help? I've tried to put in a way that you would understand. “..the Obama Justice Department has quietly ordered FBI agents to read Miranda rights to high value detainees captured and held at U.S. detention facilities in Afghanistan..”
is to
“..there have been specific cases in which FBI agents have Mirandized suspects overseas, at both Bagram and in other situations, in order to preserve the quality of evidence obtained..”
as
“..Obama has secretly ordered you to start beating your wife..”
is to
“..there have been times when you have beaten your wife..”

Does this help? I’ve tried to put in a way that you would understand.

]]> By: Tyro http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/11/petraeus-stephen-hayes-weekly-standard-story-on-miranda-for-detainees-isnt-true/#comment-156495 Tyro Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:58:03 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=14947#comment-156495 For 40 years, right-wingers have regarded Miranda warnings as the equivalent of letting criminals go free. This latest hissy fit is just another instance of the dog returning to his excrement. For 40 years, right-wingers have regarded Miranda warnings as the equivalent of letting criminals go free. This latest hissy fit is just another instance of the dog returning to his excrement.

]]> By: Duros62 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/11/petraeus-stephen-hayes-weekly-standard-story-on-miranda-for-detainees-isnt-true/#comment-156477 Duros62 Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:19:24 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=14947#comment-156477 <i>claimed that “the Obama Justice Department has quietly ordered FBI agents to read Miranda rights </i> If by "quietly" he means not at all, then, yeah, that's true. claimed that “the Obama Justice Department has quietly ordered FBI agents to read Miranda rights

If by “quietly” he means not at all, then, yeah, that’s true.

]]> By: SaveFarris http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/11/petraeus-stephen-hayes-weekly-standard-story-on-miranda-for-detainees-isnt-true/#comment-156476 SaveFarris Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:18:30 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=14947#comment-156476 <i>there is no secret program to mirandize terror detainees as Hayes “reported”.</i> That's not what the rebuttal says: the rebuttal says "there's been no policy change", which even <a href="http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NjBhMTRhNGJiZDA0YjcyYWM1MzlmNTMwZTRiYmJjYmQ=" rel="nofollow">those left-wing nuts at National Review</a> point out. there is no secret program to mirandize terror detainees as Hayes “reported”.

That’s not what the rebuttal says: the rebuttal says “there’s been no policy change”, which even those left-wing nuts at National Review point out.

]]> By: Oliver Willis http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/11/petraeus-stephen-hayes-weekly-standard-story-on-miranda-for-detainees-isnt-true/#comment-156469 Oliver Willis Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:56:45 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=14947#comment-156469 You really are a stupid person. Yes, the FBI mirandizes suspects abroad on occasion, but there is no secret program to mirandize terror detainees as Hayes "reported". You really are a stupid person. Yes, the FBI mirandizes suspects abroad on occasion, but there is no secret program to mirandize terror detainees as Hayes “reported”.

]]> By: conservo http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/11/petraeus-stephen-hayes-weekly-standard-story-on-miranda-for-detainees-isnt-true/#comment-156456 conservo Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:28:04 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=14947#comment-156456 <i>While there have been specific cases in which FBI agents have Mirandized suspects overseas, at both Bagram and in other situations</i> NBC just confirmed that it was true, and you printed a quote proving it. You really aren't that bright are you? While there have been specific cases in which FBI agents have Mirandized suspects overseas, at both Bagram and in other situations

NBC just confirmed that it was true, and you printed a quote proving it.

You really aren’t that bright are you?

]]> By: S. Hayes http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/06/11/petraeus-stephen-hayes-weekly-standard-story-on-miranda-for-detainees-isnt-true/#comment-156454 S. Hayes Thu, 11 Jun 2009 16:24:15 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=14947#comment-156454 Also: Al Gore said he invented The Internet. Also: Al Gore said he invented The Internet.

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