Amused Observer says race is based in biology, so what biological factors can be used to differential between whites and blacks, and not Slavs and Teutons? Or Blue-eyed and Brown-eyed people?

You made a claim, now back it up with facts.

There is definitely genetics and heritage. You would have to be some kind of creationist not to think that. However, this is true of black skin vs. white skin, as well as blue eyes vs. white eyes.

Why is skin colour considered ‘race’ while eye colour is not?

Because ‘race’ was defined based on sociological factors and not biological ones.

No you haven’t.

You claim ‘race’ is real and not a social construct.

For this to be true, there would have to be a definition of ‘race’ that would separate blacks and white, which are said to be different races, but would not separate Teutons and Slavs, which are not.

You have not given this definition.

“And seriously CS, watch that blood pressure. Look into taking some sort of antidepressants.

Watch this…

youtube.com/watch?v=wKiIroiCvZ0

This is me. … Not literally. It’s David Lynch.

But like Lynch, I can tell someone off and drop an F-bomb and not have my blood pressure go up.

I’ve explained this a number of times, but obviously you, J.G.Thayer, Sean D. Martin, Dennis the Bigot, and others don’t understand this simple fact.

I’m not in a rage when I swear at you guys and insult you.

I am, at the most, perplexed that you can be as stupid as you are and still not accidentally killed yourself.

… And while you are over at YouTube, watch this…

youtube.com/watch?v=UfLAv3JHRwY

That’s seriously fucked up.

“It can’t possibly be pleasant to go through life perpetually angry and terminally ignorant.”

You would know, as you are both. You are also incredibly racist, as this thread has shown.

Strictly speaking, there has to be a biological difference between “races” on some level. It is not as though a black woman, impregnated by a black man, will give birth to a child with strictly Asian features. Although that would be a hell of a trick.

But I don’t believe that I’ve truly hit on the crux of your argument, so you two can feel free to carry on…

Oh, believe me, we found a common thread.

What the hell does that have to do with anything?

Living by one’s wits sharpens those wits. Etc. Etc. Etc.

And sharpens your noses too. amirite, fellas? Can I get a what, what?

And seriously CS, watch that blood pressure. Look into taking some sort of antidepressants. It can’t possibly be pleasant to go through life perpetually angry and terminally ignorant.

Fucking laughing retard.

“This can’t be good for your blood pressure.”

I’ll add my health to the massive list of things you know nothing about.

Me: “There is no scientific definition for race, and there never was one”

AO: “I’ve said this over and over and over, A gene pool suffiently fixed to breed true.”

AND THIS HAS NEVER FUCKING HAPPENED IN HUMANS!

“But what the hell CS, lets look it up;”

Yes. Let’s finally look it up…

“1: a breeding stock of animals”

Doesn’t apply to human beings, as we have never controlled our breeding habits in any meaningful way.

“2 a: a family, tribe, people, or nation belonging to the same stock b: a class or kind of people unified by shared interests, habits, or characteristics”

Purely a social construct. One that would treat us as members of a different race.

“3 a: an actually or potentially interbreeding group within a species ; also : a taxonomic category (as a subspecies) representing such a group b: breed c: a category of humankind that shares certain distinctive physical traits”

So ‘Redheads’ are now a race, because they share a ‘distinctive physical trait.’

Again… I’m asking a very simple question. Define ‘race / breed / strain’, or whatever term you want to use today, in such a way that you can tell the difference between ‘whites’ and ‘blacks’, but doesn’t separate Teutons from Slavs.

You claim there is a biological difference and that the separations between whites and blacks is not purely sociological, so prove it.

Come up with a fucking definition that does what you says it should.

And stop fucking stalling.

Right winger “Amused Observer’s” racist rhetoric has included talking about: “Our own stock of Africans”, referring to certain people as “breeding groups”, and he’s now added referring to Jews as “basically the smartest dogs in the world.”.

Right winger “Amused Observer” is now clearly saying that white Europeans are inferior to Jews.

And right winger “Amused Observer” is also saying that white Europeans were inferior to Asians.

Perhaps he could be more specific about explaining his view of racial hierarchy.

“There is no scientific definition for race, and there never was one”

I’ve said this over and over and over, A gene pool suffiently fixed to breed true. Maybe the word strain is more palatable to you. But what the hell CS, lets look it up;
Main Entry: race
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle French, generation, from Old Italian razza
Date: 1580
1: a breeding stock of animals
2 a: a family, tribe, people, or nation belonging to the same stock b: a class or kind of people unified by shared interests, habits, or characteristics
3 a: an actually or potentially interbreeding group within a species ; also : a taxonomic category (as a subspecies) representing such a group b: breed c: a category of humankind that shares certain distinctive physical traits

And your idiocy is always 100% genuine.

I asked… “Is culture part of race / breed?”

And you go on about nature vs. nurture. I’m not asking you if IQ is dependent on nature or nurture, I’m asking if culture is part of your race / breed definition.

Because if it is, and it sounds like it from what you said, you are not going to find a lot of biologists that agree with you.

“You are obsessed with the race/breed question.”

That’s cause you refuse to answer it. You are still not answering it.

Give me a definition of race / breed that includes blacks and whites as different races, but doesn’t include Slavics and Teutons.

If you can’t define race / breed, how can you be so sure it’s real?

“The modern progressive idea that race is a social construct is an attempt along with discrediting the idea of I.Q. to paper over the measurable differences between different groups for reasons of political correctness.”

Translation: Amused Observer is a fucking racist asshole who is using outdated and discredited ideas as excuses for his racism.

There is no scientific definition for race, and there never was one. You can’t give one. You ‘know’ it exists, but you can’t define it.

Nature vs Nurture is a long standing area of controversy. The jews have done a remarkable job of keeping thier gene pool intact. By linking membership in the tribe through the maternal side, the little bastards spawned as wild oats with the local gentile girls are often not included in the tribe unless the girl converts. That keeps the traditions and culture intact. The poor jewish girl who finds herself with child, often a violent rape during a pogram etc., is granted the protection of the tribe, the child gets a proper education and again the traditions and culture remain intact.

Revering education and learning as they do, intelligence plays a larger role in determining breeding priority to put it rather crudely. This has created a feedback loop that in the end has developed basically the smartest dogs in the world.

You are obsessed with the race/breed question. You are looking for a gotcha moment. If you study the anthropology of North American natives starting from the north with the land bridge and working your way down to the tip of South America with a dna kit in hand you will find your answer. Expect to find significant portions of European blood starting at around say Mexico with sprinklings in the N.E. of the US and SE of Canada. Some African blood gets mixed in from the spanish plantations. Asians are quite a mixed bag themselves and certainly feel that significant differences exist between the various flavers of orientals. A breed is a fixed gene pool that breeds true. I would use the same terms to define race.

The modern progressive idea that race is a social construct is an attempt along with discrediting the idea of I.Q. to paper over the measurable differences between different groups for reasons of political correctness.

Is culture part of race / breed?

By the way, are ‘Asians’ and ‘Native Americans’? Are they a different race / breed? If so, why? If not, why not?

1. Are they? You are being too modest. Yes they are as you well know. At something like 2% of the population
they’ve provided something like 25% of the nobel prizes won by Americans. Ashkenzi jews repeatedly test out as the group of people with the highest I.Q.

2. Why are they that way? One big reason is culture. Jews have a long record of revering scholarship and education. Another reason is the wise decision to mark jewishness by maternal descent. And another, is for many long years in the diaspora jews were prohibited from making a living as normal tradesmen and artisans. Christian laws prohibiting usury left moneylending as a viable way to eke out a living. Living by one’s wits sharpens those wits. Etc. Etc. Etc.

The only foolish thing I can see jews doing is political.
But that is another tangent.

And one more thing Zython, anything I build isn’t falling down in two years. I’m damn good at what I do.

Can I take a shot?

1.) Are they?

No.

2.) Why do you think they are.

Because we bribe people with our secret stashes of Jew Gold! Doy!

Two points…

1.) Are they?
2.) Why do you think they are.

Why do you think Republicans are having a hard time attracting minorities? Could it be because there are so many racist asshole like you in their ranks?

Now, why do you think there are so many racist asshole Republicans?

By the way…

How about ‘Asians’ and ‘Native Americans’? Are they a different race / breed? If so, why? If not, why not?

Again, I don’t think the government is going to give a housing project contract to someone whose buildings collapse after 2 years.

Why do you think jews are over represented in the hard sciences and professions and seem to have an easier time
going through the educational process?

Because the hardcore Christians boycott those fields? What?