I’ll try to be more appreciative of your moments of rationality “SoCal”

I’ve appreciated where you’ve broken ranks from the wingnut brigade in the past.

It’s just that you throw me off when you do something like citing a 67% overall favorable opinion of Obama as being a negative.

LOL.

Also, keep in mind that at the other end of the poll, the numbers might not represent what you think they do.

I’m one of those that disapprove of “Obama’s handling of federal spending, and” disapprove of “his handling of the federal budget deficit” but assuredly for the opposite reasons you do.

I’m deeply concerned that the economy is much worse than most of the mainstream thinks, that right wing economic policies for the last 30 years have headed the country into a Deep Depression, and that the only thing that is keeping US out of the economic Depression ditch is the huge Federal spending and it’s unfortunately associated debt.

It’s important to repeatedly note that the debt that the right wing is suddenly expressing concern about is the result of the last 3 REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTS.

Republican President Reagan more than DOUBLED the US debt, between Republicans Reagan and Bush 1 they more than QUADRUPLED the US debt, and Republican Bush 2 DOUBLED the US debt again.

And all three Republicans increased the size of government and increased federal outlays.

It’s the “Two Santa Clause Theory” of “Republican “Economics”" where Republicans spend Federal dollars AND raise the debt and then blame the other team.

It’s Right Winger’s First Rule: Rules Are For Other People.

It’s like your Republican Dad ran up your credit card debts and after he skipped out of town your car broke down and your house caught on fire so you needed to borrow even more money just to keep your life from going off the rails (i.e. becoming homeless and not being able to get to your job, assuming you’ve still got one).

And to add insult to injury Republican Deadbeat Dad that ran up all of the debt then blamed you for His debt.

Also, there are a lot of reputable economists that are deeply concerned that the economy is still teetering on the edge of another Great Depression and the only thing keeping US out of it is the ‘spender of last resort’: the US Government.

Many of those economists think that the US Government should be spending MORE money and the US Government should be going into MORE debt and will have to do so for at least several more years and if we don’t the teetering economy is going to have another awful collapse.

But your perspective on that would come down to whether you are agreeing with distinguished economist Paul Krugman or you agree with right wing fiction writer Paul Krugman: “Amity Shlaes”.

Well, you got one out 3 right. Let’s see if your reading comprehension skills are sufficient to figure out which one.

Since I didn’t have the “touch the Queen” incident on my list (for a reason), I must be part of some OTHER right wing.

Obama is holding steady at 59% approval rating despite the Republican Rasmassen outlier poll right wing “Dave in SoCal” cites.

Obama Rated Highest as Person, Lowest on Deficit, Spending/a>

Looks like more and more people are seeing right through Obama’s pitiful excuses about the sucking economy being all Bush’s fault. Or is this an outlier too?

Or, you know, develop and improve alternative fuels. BTW, nuclear power isn’t a bad idea, you’re just going to have a hard time <A HREF=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Mile_Islandselling it to the American public.

Left winger “News ‘I don’t live in the real world’ Reference” thinks that possible energy sources will provide us with real energy.

As opposed to imaginary energy?

Quaker, according to NewsReference, the best place to put Solar panels is in a place that gets Sunlight 24 hours a day. You’ve got another suggestion?

It’s called the arctic.

Well then thank God all our dealings and negotiations are with the general populations of the world rather than their leaders, because based on the list I provided above there are at least three of those leaders who likely think less of President Empath than they did before.

Because if anyone knows about how world leaders think, it’s a 50 year old virgin from southern California.

I am bowing out of this absurd thread…

Like always, you run away with your tail between your legs. Pitiful.

Could we just open up some nuclear reactors, and drill for oil where the caribou roam, so we could have some non – middle – eastern energy before the 30th Century?

Because using the same fuels we’ve used for over 100 years has “technological future” written all over it. I mean, why even use fuels? People got around just fine with horse power in the 18th century.

ME: I was wondering why Mr. Obama is three times more popular in the rest of the world than Mr. Bush was. Your explanation is as good as any.

Dave in SoCal: Well then thank God all our dealings and negotiations are with the general populations of the world rather than their leaders, because based on the list I provided above there are at least three of those leaders who likely think less of President Empath than they did before.

Although Dave attempted to take my statement out of context, it was a response to his statement that Obama is “culturally tone deaf.” His widespread popularity among the CULTURES, not the leaders of the world, show that he was wrong, and he’s having a hard time dealing with that, so he tried to make it about something else.

Dave, when you are that wrong, apology is good for the soul. Try it. I’ll be gracious.

Gentlemen used to bow before ladies.

That was back in the time when gentlemen ruled over women in almost every sphere.

Women didn’t get to vote and in many instances were considered chattel.

But they got bowed to by gentlemen.

And as for that picture of Republican President Bush holding the hand of the Saud king, wasn’t that picture (or one of the pictures of Republican Bush holding the Saud king’s hand) taken in Texas?

Awfully progressive in Texas are they?

Is it common to see men in dresses (or is it a long skirt?) in Texas holding the hand of another man?

For as culturally tone deaf as Republican Bush has always been, isn’t it something that right wing manly men were suddenly okay with Texas Republican Bush holding hands with an anti-democratic dictator who wears dresses?

Yes, there are global and strategic reasons for holding hands with dictators.

There are global and strategic and cultural reasons to briefly bow to show respect as well.

The right wing’s obsession with the trivia of etiquette has always struck me as part of the right wing’s obsession with monarchy in general. It’s part of the right wing’s need to have everything defined in terms of hierarchical social relations.

The same shrill, silly right wing that was complaining about the President bowing to a king was simultaneously screaming and fainting into their fainting couches that the First Lady touched a queen.

While such obsessions over trivia might delight an increasingly extreme right wing, it’s part of what is increasingly alienating moderates and independents.

Obama is holding steady at 59% approval rating despite the Republican Rasmassen outlier poll right wing “Dave in SoCal” cites.

http://www.pollster.com/polls/us/jobapproval-obama.php

But more interesting is the right wingers following the Right Winger’s First Rule: Rules Are For Other People, by criticizing the American (Democratic) President while he is overseas.

Republicans rules when they are in charge are that criticizing the American (Republicon) President while he is overseas is tantamount to treason.

But Republicons have always believed that they are Monarchy and deserve special privileges that aren’t to be granted to others.

Maybe Obama needs to worry more about what people at home think of him rather than his adoring international fans.

The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows that 34% of the nation’s voters now Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Thirty-four percent (34%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of 0. That’s the highest level of strong disapproval and the lowest overall rating yet recorded.

Well then thank God all our dealings and negotiations are with the general populations of the world rather than their leaders, because based on the list I provided above there are at least three of those leaders who likely think less of President Empath than they did before.

Spelling errors aside, “bowing to royalty” is something that the US president, who is supposed to be an equal, shouldn’t be doing.

Recall this incident during Clinton’s presidency.

It wasn’t a bow, exactly. But Mr. Clinton came close. He inclined his head and shoulders forward, he pressed his hands together. It lasted no longer than a snapshot, but the image on the South Lawn was indelible: an obsequent President, and the Emperor of Japan.

Canadians still bow to England’s Queen; so do Australians. Americans shake hands. If not to stand eye-to-eye with royalty, what else were 1776 and all that about? But Mr. Clinton, alas, is not the only one since George Washington who has seemed not quite to know what to make of monarchs.

Add Obama to the list of presidents who don’t quite know what to do about royalty.

For a bunch of dead-enders whose central theme is the Tea Party you would excercise some critcal thinking over bowing to royalty. Oh, who am I kidding…

Yes. Everywhere.

I was wondering why Mr. Obama is three times more popular in the rest of the world than Mr. Bush was. Your explanation is as good as any.

In fact, I live in a reasonably gloomy town in the pac northwest, and solar homeowners are net producers of electricity for at least part of the year.

Of course that isn’t what I’m saying, “SaveFarris”.

Though I’ll concede that “SaveFarris” is one of the dumbest right wing trolls here so it’s perfectly possible that they really didn’t understand the clear language of the thread.

Unfortunately, the White House doesn’t share your enthusiasm about wave energy (although I do):

The Obama administration has proposed a 25 percent cut in the research and development budget for one of the most promising renewable energy sources in the Northwest — wave and tidal power.

At the same time the White House sought an 82 percent increase in solar power research funding, a 36 percent increase in wind power funding and a 14 percent increase in geothermal funding, it sought to cut wave and tidal research funding from $40 million to $30 million.

Apparently, the WH is unaware of this information:

By some estimates, wave and tidal power could eventually meet 10 percent of the nation’s electricity demand, about the same as hydropower currently delivers. Some experts have estimated that if only 0.2 percent of energy in ocean waves could be harnessed, the power produced would be enough to supply the entire world.

And to forestall the inevitable petulant demands for examples:

Obama’s previous bow to King Abdullah

The Russian “reset” button (or did Obama mean to say “Overcharge”?)

Gordon Brown’s visit to DC (squeezing him in between a visit to the department of transportation and a meeting with Boy Scouts, no Camp David visit, no formal dinner, no press conference, the “gift” of a DVD boxset in the wrong format to a man with failing eyesight)

Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva’s visit to DC (bumps visit for St. Patrick’s day, misspells his name)

“Cinco de Cuatro”