’)1. Conservative blogs just make something up. It doesn’t have to be an actual thing, just a loose collection of words.
2. Other conservative blogs link to the original blog, egging it on by saying things like “someone ought to look into this” or “Hmmm” or “Odd”.
3. Conservative leaning newspapers and magazines then collect the brain droppings of the previous 2 groups and begin puffing out their chests wondering why the story is being suppressed, or why the NY Times is “sitting on this”.
4. Talk radio jumps in, bewildered that magazines and newspapers and the blogs are “all over this” and why the MSM is covering up.
5. Then a moron like Major Garrett completely mainstreams it via Fox News and asks a stupid question at the daily White House press briefing.
Thanks to the American voters we now have a #6.
6. Press secretary slaps down the stupid assertion, sensible people continue to run the government, the rest of us protected from the lunatics being anywhere near the levers of power.
LOL, OW. Quintessential OW.com.
Waitaminnit, we have a Press Secretary who isn’t an idiot or a liar? I’d kind of forgotten what that’s like. Thanks for the reminder.
OW, you forgot about going straight to the New Republic, or as it’s now known “EventhelibrulNewRepublic sez. . . .”
Olbermann’s WTF moment had me laughing about this last night.
“Alex Jones has a special report about FEMA camps. Care to comment?”-Major Garrett to Robert Gibbs
LOL. Fantastic post.
…..says the guy who works for Media Matters. Pot, meet kettle.
Yeah, because it’s not like MM actually detects mistakes made by the MSM and puts the correct information on their website or anything like that, right, yo mama?
No no, let’s give him a chance here. Okay, yo mama… which of the videos posted on Media Matters is fake? We’re waiting.
Argh! Dammit, I totally forgot and just fell for the one Oliver left out: #8: anonymous trolls desperately try to change the subject.
Of course, there are always the helpful Talking Points. That’s how we learn things. Remember, they’re true because they’re said a lot.
Of course, there are always the helpful Talking Points. That’s how we learn things. Remember, they’re true because they’re said a lot. –Aqualung ed
Yes, Mister ed, like the talking points about how Glenn Beck is directing militant wack jobs to go out and kill people. Non-stop talking points from the Journo-List liberal bloggers and wannabe Journo-List liberal bloggers for two solid weeks. Or the talking points of the nutjob conspiracy theory that Rick Santelli was a bought and paid for operative from the Vast Right Wing to push the Tea Parties, which was all set up a full year prior. The conspiracy theory/endless left-wing talking points that Bush stole two elections, that the second one was blatantly stolen all by Diebold Corporation. But now, somehow, with Democratic control, something as serious a charge as stealing a presidential election by an American corporation is not even being investigated.
Do you have no shame, Mister ed? Any at all, when you type such piffle?
I’m just impressed Gibbs can take a question from a guy named “Major” without laughing.
Shorter Dennis: Waaaaaaaaah!
As I write this, the Dow is down 29 for the day, shouldn’t you be divining Great Meaning From It All?
Yeah, Oliver. It’s all part of my stovepipe operation.
I guess it’s not easy for a blogger to be consistent, but one who thrives on pointing out hypocrisy in others shouldn’t be sensitive when his is pointed out to him.
Really.
Given that Dennis has refused to actually “point out” any evidence to his derail attempt I’m assuming he’s simply referring to how he sits there are day and trolls this site with his thumb up his own ass.
Oliver forgot #1.5, that’s where right wing commenters like “Dennis” “make something up. It doesn’t have to be an actual thing, just a loose collection of words.” “Dennis” then tries to egg on his falsehoods “by saying things like “someone ought to look into this” or “Hmmm” or “Odd”.”
I, however, appreciate “Dennis”. Where some right wing falsehoods take some effort to discredit, right winger “Dennis” discredits himself.
“Dennis’s” arguments aren’t just tissue paper weak, they are tissue paper that’s been sitting in the toilet bowl overnight weak.
The funniest effort by “Dennis” to discredit the right in this thread was his complaint of a “nutjob conspiracy theory that Rick Santelli was a bought and paid for operative from the Vast Right Wing to push the Tea Parties, which was all set up a full year prior.”
Get that?
Rick Santelli’s “spontaneous” rant “was all set up a full year prior.”
Thanks for the inside story on that right wing conspiracy, “Dennis”!
LOL!-) You’re a gift to the left, “Dennis”.
Given that Dennis has refused to actually “point out” any evidence to his derail attempt…
Hey man, that’s how he rolls.
Read for yourself, News Idiot.
Rick Santelli Rant Just the Product of Conservative PR?
“Considering that Santelli is an alleged journalist for CNBC quite a few people might have some explaining to do.”
Some seriously wacked out shit right there.
I didn’t catch the part where lefty talking heads repeated the same talking points over and over (using virtually the exact same syntax) on multiple TVs outlets. You know, a la the link I provided above. May we assume those would be forthcoming? Thanks in advance!
I didn’t catch the part where lefty talking heads repeated the same talking points over and over (using virtually the exact same syntax) on multiple TVs outlets. –The very special ed
Try googling “Santomayor” + “compelling life story”, Mister ed.
You’re welcome in advance.
Rick Santelli’s “spontaneous” rant “was all set up a full year prior.”
Hmmm. Someone should look into that.
Is this kind of like the Cheney form of journalism?
Step 1. Leak information to the press that supports your shoddy claims.
Step 2. Go on Sunday morning chat shows and cite news outlets who print your shoddy claims as proof.
Step 3. PROFIT!
Try googling “Santomayor” + “compelling life story”,
Well, that wouldn’t bring up very many results. I don’t know who this “Santomayor” person is, but his or her compelling life story isn’t very well known.
Did you perhaps mean Ms. Sotomayor?
Try googling “Santomayor” + “compelling life story”
So, nothing from Dennis regarding Santelli (which he brought up). Again. Well, keep on keepin’ on!
Actually, they did, Mister ed. All the lefty talking heads and bloggers would repeat ad nauseum about Rick Santelli’s rant was the ‘mortgage losers’ comment. And I don’t know why you said ‘Nothing from Dennis regarding Santelli’ when I provided a link from this very blog up above.
You’re not very good at this, ed.
Dude, you are wrong more often than Bill Kristol. I don’t know why you do this to yourself.
when I provided a link
A link. A. One (1).
Um, that doesn’t really support the “Talking Points” (plural. s. many.) thesis as presented in the Daily Show clip I provided.
Can you figure out how else you got this wrong? Think hard. Maybe review the Daily Show clip again. Toodles!
Dude, you are wrong more often than Bill Kristol. I don’t know why you do this to yourself. Duros
You always say crap like that without saying why, Duros. No offense, but I doubt you could even critique one thing Kristol has said that was wrong and explain in your own words how he was wrong without having to google it first and crib from some left-wing blogger.
The men don’t know, but the little girls understand, Denny.
Can you figure out how else you got this wrong? Think hard. Maybe review the Daily Show clip again. Toodles! Special ed
That link is from five freaking years ago, ed. You are living in the past, my friend. I think you hearken back to a time when Democrats were not in power and you loved wallowing in self-pity and blamed Republicans for all your problems. Clips from five years ago still rock your boat.
So still just one (1) link. Got it.
That link is from five freaking years ago
And yet still so relevant, it resonates even today. Amazing, isn’t it? I heard that the U.S. Constitution is even older than that. Or am I merely living in the past? Thanks for yet again skirting the issue at hand. Virtually speaking for the reality-based, we expected no less.
I’m not one to scream ‘conspiracy theory’. I don’t blame anyone for looking into this.
However, the moment they saw the percentage of Republican donations from car dealership owners, they should have shut their mouths. This is like complaining that McDonalds singles out Democrats for firing and ignoring that most people who work at McDonalds come from a socio-economic background that’s about 70% Democrat.
Republican Senator Susan Collins, member of the vast left wing media apparatus.
Of course the problem here is that Judge Sotomayor does, in fact, have a compelling life story which is a more true fact than 99.999999999999% of what conservatives push.
Yeah, Oliver, and I guess we’ll have to count Joe Gibbs and Barack Obama to Lanny Davis “and a few [other] straggling liberals [who] think that what is said on Fox News, The Wall Street Journal and talk radio actually matters to non-insane people”.
Gibbs on Sotomayor’s “wise Latina” comment: Her word choice was “poor”
Joe Gibbs? LOL.
Except as Robert Gibbs makes clear, Sotomayor’s point isn’t the radical rantings of a reconquista she-goddess as the right keeps claiming, but a common sense reading of the issue.
I heard that Al Gore said he invented the Internet.
Except as Robert Gibbs makes clear, Sotomayor’s point isn’t the radical rantings of a reconquista she-goddess as the right keeps claiming, but a common sense reading of the issue. OW
Gibbs defaulted to his usual foil, Rush Limbaugh. Yes, he’s sure she would’ve chosen her words more carefully in that scripted speech given by someone of such a “compelling life story and long record of judicial service”, but my gosh, do you believe what Rush Limbaugh said about her?
I guess that’s what passes for clarity on the left when it’s suddenly necessary to admit a liberal judge made a blatantly racist comment.
Gibbs defaulted to his usual foil, Rush Limbaugh.
He was specifically asked to respond to Limbaugh’s comment. Look man, it isn’t the fault of Gibbs or any of us that Limbaugh is the right’s leader. Perhaps if the right didn’t elevate a racist bigoted lying homophobe to the top of its command chain we wouldn’t have to respond to him.
Oliver, in case you missed it, Limbaugh “resigned” from the leadership position you put him into. Sorry to break it to you…
And your theory reminds me of how, during the last campaign, so many of the most disgusting smears against Sarah Palin were traceable right back to Daily Kos. That she cut funding for pregnant teenagers, that she cut funding for special-needs students, that she wasn’t really Trig’s birth mother… all started at Kos, and spread all around from there.
Quite an efficient little bit of stovepiping there…
J.
so many of the most disgusting smears against Sarah Palin were traceable right back to Daily Kos
That’s horrible! Could you point them out? Did any major TV or cable networks promote them? How dreadful. You should make sure these people are properly identified and called out, stat!
yeah, ed, I did back at Wizbang.
wizbangblog.com/content/2008/09/08/the-protocols-of-the-daily-kos.php
Unfortunately, at Kos, they tend to delete entries that later prove embarrassing. They start the message, then once it proves embarrassing to the community, they go back and delete it. By that point, the damage is done.
J.
From the link Jay Tea posts above:
Emphasis added. Total lack of self-awareness in the original.
fafaroo, it was a great title. Johnson had used it repeatedly, but for a series of articles — not one overarching piece. Honor demanded I give him credit for it.
J.
Honor demanded I give him credit for it.
You still have no idea what I’m talking about do you?
Unfortunately, at Kos, they tend to delete entries that later prove embarrassing. They start the message, then once it proves embarrassing to the community, they go back and delete it. By that point, the damage is done.
That’s the ticket!
So where do major networks pick up on these messages a la Fox News and the reliable Republican Noise Machine (such as noted by the brilliant Daily Show “Talking Points” clip).
fafaroo, obviously it is a reference to “The Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion,” the infamous anti-Semitic Czarist forgery that has spawned no end of anti-Semitism in the century-plus of its existence. In this case, the parallel was deliberate: it was stating that Kos is a willing source of false, defamatory, and malicious smears against their opponents, creating fraudulent stories that were passed off as truth.
The procedure is clear:
1) Make up some outrageous smear that is based on the slightest grain of plausibility.
2) Post it on Kos.
3) Rely on the hordes of mindless Kossacks to spread the smear to every corner of the interwebs.
4) Wait for the smear to be debunked thoroughly.
5) Delete the original posting without comment or correction, letting the nigh-infinite repetitions fostered hither and yon to stand unchallenged.
In the short time between when Sarah Palin was picked as the nominee and the election, I counted no less than three examples of this playing out precisely as described — and I didn’t even have to look too hard. (Palin wasn’t Trig’s birth mother, Palin cut funding for special education, Palin cut funding for pregnant teens.) With a bit more digging, I could probably have found several more — but I was content that three were a sufficient number of examples to prove the pattern.
J.
And before declaring Daily Kos “an open sewer of the internet,” you link approvingly to Little Green Footballs, one of the most virulently racist blogs out there and which you are, apparently, a regular reader of.
You don’t see anything sort of hypocritical about that?
Oliver, in case you missed it, Limbaugh “resigned” from the leadership position you put him into.
Except, as the Sotomayor nomination has shown, the right is still taking their marching orders from Limbaugh. I have many superpowers but none of them is the power to make conservatives follow morons. If I did have that power Bush would have never happened.
And yes, people post conspiracies on Kos. Yet, there is no similar stovepipe effect where the charges consistently get into the mainstream as the con blog -> Fox pipeline does. It simply doesn’t exist.