’)I look forward to the ads in 2010 and 2012 that explain how “Presidente Obama y los Democrats” were con Justice Sotomayor and how the Republicans were contra Justice Sotomayor.
This is simply because right out of the starting gate Republicans and conservatives can’t contain their outrage that a hispanic woman could possibly be considered just as qualified for the job as a white dude.
She’s more qualified than 99.9999% of all white dudes in this country. But it’s not the fact that she’s hispanic that determines this, as she states. Melanin and a vagina aren’t qualifications. Unless you’re trying to by votes with racism. Why some can’t comprehend this is beyond me.
Nice strawman post though. I’m sure it will get 50 or 60 comments.
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Yo mama,
Melanin and a vagina were certainly disqualifications for most of our nation’s history. And racism and sexism certainly were part of that. I’ll start complaining about my white man status as soon as I’m actually oppressed, but until then I choose to shut the fuck up about strawmen, reverse discrimination, and the rest. It just isn’t oppression to not get selected for things, it’s called competition. When someone else succeeds at something I want, I try harder. As a white man, I’ve been shut out of more things because of nepotism than any sort of reverse discrimination. But I’m betting we won’t see legislation to end that now, will we? (And I don’t think we should, either.)
“Nice strawman post though. I’m sure it will get 50 or 60 comments.”
LOL,
As if a professional propagandista would ever post an inflammatory statement that is completely baseless.
And of course the first thing their boss Rush points out is that she’s Latina and it’s all about race.
Because that’s the first thing right-wingers see, your race. Your qualifications have nothing to do with it. And the people are watching….and remembering.
Yep. Identity politics is all the right has. Matt Yglesias put it well: “Somehow, when George W. Bush affects a Texas accent, that’s not identity politics. When John Edwards gets a VP nomination, that’s not identity politics. But Sonia Sotomayor! Oh my heavens!”
Luv….LMAO!
Yes, we are remembering. We’re remembering how a supreme court nominee thinks she’s able to make better decisions than some people because of her ethnicity.
Mike
Horrible analogy. People don’t vote for someone based on whether they have a southern accent or not. It’s not a hot button issue. Who has ever said “we need a nominee that has a southern accent!” You haven’t. Because that would be stupid. However, we have had a president actively search out people based *on* their race/gender. And that nominee is a bigot and a hispanic supremacist it would seem, being that she thinks the demographic she belongs has superior decision making skills.
jon
This has nothing to do with history. It has to do with right and wrong. Race/gender should never be a factor in appointing a nominee, hiring an employee, etc. It’s wrong and racist.
Often, the left claims to be against racism, but they’re not. They are only against it it the alleged victim isn’t a white guy. If the victim is white, oh well. You don’t get votes for standing up for “those people.” So who gives a shit. To hell with right and wrong. We’ve seen how anti-racist the left is by seeing some of the slurs and epithets thrown at Michelle Malkin, Clarence Thomas, etc….
If you are ok with what Sotomayor has said, you are a bigot. ‘Nuff said.
Yglesias:
I noted this on another thread, but it seemed especially apropos here.
Melanin and a vagina aren’t qualifications.
*cough cough* condi rice *cough cough*
Except she didn’t say she is somehow more qualified as A JUDGE because of her race and gender. This was clearly in reference to the fact a female may understand oh..I don’t know.. about a women’s issue more than a man. Is this sexist? Not exactly. I don’t know what it is like to be a women or a Puerto Rican, so I am sure I would have to acquiess(probably spelled that wrong) more than likely. And while we are talking about racist, how about the conservatives labeling her “dumb”. Oh thats not an offensive stereotype for Hispanics, seeing as she has more legal experience than anyone on the court and went to Princeton and Yale. Yeah real idiot there. I wonder why they want to label her stupid? No word for Yale grad George W. Bush on his intellect. I guess they hate people that EARN there way into prestigous colleges and don’t get daddy to donate so your C average and substandard SAT will get you past the admissions office.
I wonder why they want to label her stupid? No word for Yale grad George W. Bush on his intellect. I guess they hate people that EARN there way into prestigous colleges and don’t get daddy to donate so your C average and substandard SAT will get you past the admissions office.
…ouch
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/05/27/rove-ivy-league-smart/
Looks like Turd Blossom is selling this line of crap by the wagon. My boy Bush= Went to Yale and Havard…Modern day Socrates! Woman Justice= Not everyone who goes to the ivy league is smart. Its also hilarious coming from a person who never finished college. You don’t have to go to college to be smart just don’t talk about other peoples education like you are a Rhode Scholar.
The affirmative action , reverse racism rant can only be used when the person who is selected for the job is a minority, and less qualified than his or her competitors. I guess being first in your class at Princeton and whizzing past all the white guys in your class is the deciding factor for Sotomayor’s inferiority. So sad Jon that we wouldn’t even be discussing this issue if the nominee had been a white man. When a white man is nominated for a high position, it’s always a given that he’s immensely qualified. When a minority is selected, you are suspicious and immediately assume the reason for his or her selection is race. I’m so sorry you can’t see the racism in your own assumptions.
Yvette
Thats funny, but I guess you’re right. After all Obama said apointees were perfectly qualified but he wasn’t going to vote for them anyway. Strangely they were white. Obama’s half white, you’d think he’d give a white homie a break.
Yo mama: We’re remembering how a supreme court nominee thinks she’s able to make better decisions than some people because of her ethnicity.
The all you’re remembering are your own comments because she never said that. What she did say was that she hoped a Hispanic woman might be able to make better decisions on cases involving racial or sexual discrimination than some people because of her experiences.
Yo mama: Race/gender should never be a factor in appointing a nominee, hiring an employee, etc. It’s wrong and racist.
At the risk of being accused of being a racist by anyone who reads no further than this first sentence, why not?
It seems to me that any deliberative body benefits from hearing from a variety of views. And if that is the goal then to get a variety, you’re going to have to include a variety of people. Yes, there is some minimum level of qualifications they should have, but once those are met considering other factors would be a good thing.
Sure, you could get yet another white, Protestant male with an Eastern Ivy League education to speak on behalf of whatever other group you wanted (women, Hispanics, Native Americans, Jews, lesbians, 2nd generation children of immigrants, whatever). But wouldn’t it make more sense to actually hear from members of those groups?
Sean said: “It seems to me that any deliberative body benefits from hearing from a variety of views.”
Yes Sean – *views!* Thank you!!!! But you seem to assume Sean, that people that look alike think alike, which is why so many of you on this site have no problem using race/ethnicity/gender as a qualification. You pidgeonhole people based on their demographic. Do you realize this?
I have no problem with different views. That is real diversity, not a bunch of people that look different but believe in exactly the same thing. And this crap about picking someone because of their ethnic makeup is bullshit. It’s along the lines of “they all think alike.”
Yvette: My problem isn’t whether she’s qualified or not. It appears that she is. I take issue however with some of what she has said, and with the notion that race/gender should ever have anything to do with appointing someone to a position. Most liberals agree wit that, unless of course, the victim of discrimination is a white guy.
Looks like Turd Blossom is selling this line of crap by the wagon.
What? That she’s the kind of person that hangs around the country club making fun of other people?
It’s along the lines of “they all think alike.”
Do you think that she and Roberts might look at a case of racial discrimination a little differently, yes or no?
Yo mama: Yes Sean – *views!* Thank you!!!! But you seem to assume Sean, that people that look alike think alike, which is why so many of you on this site have no problem using race/ethnicity/gender as a qualification. You pidgeonhole people based on their demographic. Do you realize this?
No, I don’t. Because honestly I don’t think that’s what I do. But even acknowledging that all ____ people don’t think alike, you’re more likely to find variety when you gather folks from different groups.
And do you see the irony at all in your say “so many” on this site have a problem seeing that people don’t all think alike?
And this crap about picking someone because of their ethnic makeup is bullshit. It’s along the lines of “they all think alike.”
I think you miss the point. It isn’t “pick a Jew/Hispanic/homosexual because they will have a different view.” Certainly this WASP, that black guy and the gay Muslim over there could all have very similar views. But more often than not they will have different views than three middle-aged white guys.
What? That she’s the kind of person that hangs around the country club making fun of other people?
Duros, you know that they can’t keep their memes straight, they are either Ivy League and effet limo liberals or they are stupid hispanics. I can’t keep it straight.
As a white man I long for the day that a Republican president will appoint someone of my race and gender based on his qualifications rather than on political connections or ideology.