Count the days all you like, but comparing criticism of actions with criticism of outcomes is still apples and road apples.

“Good grief. If we keep this up, Obama and his bots will be blaming Bush for anything they fuck three years from now.”

Kind of like the Bush administration blaming Bill Clinton for so many things, for so long into his administration?

Oh please. I keep forgetting that everything was peachy keen in the world until January 21, 2001. The North Koreans didn’t ignore the lame plan put together by Clinton and Jimmy Carter! They started doing it as soon as Bush took office!

And now, we have the Obama administration sitting around with their thumbs up their arses, NK says “Watch this bitches” and even THAT is Bush’s fault.

Good grief. If we keep this up, Obama and his bots will be blaming Bush for anything they fuck three years from now.

I needed that. You just made Jeanne Kirkpatrick seem reasonable.

And conservatives have a completely insane theory of foreign policy: increase tensions untilo we have peace!

They do not respect Obama. He’s weak. He has the “underpants gnome theory to foreign policy.”

Step 1 – talk with Iran, N Korea, Syria…etc..

Step 2 – (????)

Step 3 – Peace!

I know you folks here are as close to cheerleaders as I’ve seen on a blog, but Obama isn’t going to prevent anyone from doing anything.

The implied comparison is wrong in so many ways I almost can’t decide where to begin.

Almost.

Is it too much to expect that you have even scanned the articles you link, Farris? The entry you gave us from Jake Tapper is about Mr. Bush’s deliberate efforts to antagonize the North Koreans! So yes, I think it’s fair to hold him responsible for the overt actions of his own administration.

On the other hand, we have a recent nuclear test by North Korea, a continuation of provocative acts that began….when was it Farris? Three years ago?

Perhaps you could disabuse me of my misguided notion that this is part of Mr. Bush’s failed legacy. What steps did the Bush administration take? I mean other than calling a megalomanic dicatator names?

Pray, tell, what would that look like? Just to be clear, are you actually suggesting we try and assassinate Kim-Jong Il? Perhaps you’re unfamiliar with the “exploding cigar” scenario?

Farris, need I point out that Mr. Bush was in charge of North Korea policy for eight whole years after Ms. Allbright’s departure? How many nuclear tests had North Korea staged up till then?

— witness their recent confrontations with our unarmed ships in international waters off their coasts.

Let’s add a little context, shall we? Our ships were unarmed. What kind of ships are they? They are surveillance ships. What are they doing 100 miles off the coast of China? We don’t know. What about the Chinese ships–were they armed? They were not. Did the Chinese ships make any threatening moves? They steered within 25 yards of the American ships.

Anything else? Yes, the Chinese sailors stipped to their underwear in some sort of bizarre taunt of our ship’s crew.

Now, Mr. Tea. Please continue with your “no real interest in being overly friendly with us” blather.

Yes, what North Korea did was equal to what the US did in 1945. Good observation, moron. (pat on head.) Now go back to eating paste.

Just because the US did it, at tremendous effort and expense, over 60 years ago, doesn’t diminish how tremendously difficult building a nuclear bomb is. All the US did was demonstrate proof of concept — they know it’s possible.

Look how long it took India and Pakistan to develop nuclear weapons — and they are a hell of a lot more advanced than North Korea.

It hasn’t just been the NPT that’s kept nuclear weaopns out of more hands — it takes a LOT of money and a LOT of equipment and a LOT of expertise.

North Korea did it while essentially starving its citizens and bankrupting its country. And now we have to deal with that.

J.

J.

You’re being quite selective in your account of recent events, Mr. Tea. Will you stop trying to mislead readers here, or shall I embarrass you once again?