Comments on: Even The “Liberal” NPR… http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/05/21/even-the-liberal-npr/ Like Kryptonite To Stupid Sat, 11 Feb 2012 06:02:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: Eric Sipple http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/05/21/even-the-liberal-npr/#comment-153636 Eric Sipple Sat, 23 May 2009 01:36:23 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=14728#comment-153636 News, it's very hard to discuss anything with someone who goes double-barrel dick on every single point they want to make. We actually agree on more things than we don't, yet I politely call you on one thing I think you're wrong on and I get a 5 paragraph screed. Whatever, I'll let you do your thing. If you're ever interested in an actual discussion, let me know and we can try again. News, it’s very hard to discuss anything with someone who goes double-barrel dick on every single point they want to make. We actually agree on more things than we don’t, yet I politely call you on one thing I think you’re wrong on and I get a 5 paragraph screed.

Whatever, I’ll let you do your thing. If you’re ever interested in an actual discussion, let me know and we can try again.

]]> By: Grumpymann http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/05/21/even-the-liberal-npr/#comment-153594 Grumpymann Fri, 22 May 2009 21:12:17 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=14728#comment-153594 Lately NPR has become more of an aggregater, putting out other producers stuff. Thus the crappy "Business" shows. Lately NPR has become more of an aggregater, putting out other producers stuff.

Thus the crappy “Business” shows.

]]> By: Duros62 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/05/21/even-the-liberal-npr/#comment-153582 Duros62 Fri, 22 May 2009 18:47:52 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=14728#comment-153582 Yeah, I call foul every time I hear the words American Enterprise Institute. But I still listen. Yeah, I call foul every time I hear the words American Enterprise Institute.

But I still listen.

]]> By: News Reference http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/05/21/even-the-liberal-npr/#comment-153581 News Reference Fri, 22 May 2009 18:40:32 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=14728#comment-153581 <i>"hyperbole"</i>? Right wing FOX toadies <a href="http://mediamatters.org/search/tag/mara_liasson" rel="nofollow">Mara Liasson</a> and <a href="http://mediamatters.org/search/tag/juan_williams" rel="nofollow">Juan Williams</a> aren't outliers. The analysis by "Devilstower" on NPR's persistent use of right wing <a href="http://www.devilstower.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/4/5/715996/-How-Do-You-Spell-Lazy-A-E-I" rel="nofollow">American Enterprise Institute</a> hacks wasn't <i>hyperbole</i>, it was very well researched: <i>"Based on the information from NPR's web page, 70 of the 86 people currently listed as scholars at AEI have had air time on NPR over the last eight years. If you omit the people who were either members of the Bush administration, or elected officials you still have 63 AEI pundits got attention from NPR. Not only that, but 16 of them made over a dozen appearances. In total, they got their say on public radio over 600 times over that period. That's over 600 times that your tax dollars, and the contributions to your local station, helped <a href="http://www.devilstower.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/4/5/715996/-How-Do-You-Spell-Lazy-A-E-I" rel="nofollow">AEI</a> press the neocon message."</i> Hyperbole might be "lambert" calling N.P.R.: "Nice Polite Republicans" in response to one of <a href="http://www.correntewire.com/npr_is_teh_suck_15" rel="nofollow">Nina Totenberg</a>'s oblique pieces. But while some of <a href="http://www.correntewire.com/tags/npr" rel="nofollow">NPR's bias</a> might be dismissed as subjective, when you add up 600 right wing puff pieces by a right wing think tank whose entire purpose is to push right wing fictions, well, that's a remarkably persistent pattern of right wing bias. Even if you can get past the right wing think tank(s) dominating NPR's air time and right wing FOX toadies like Mara Liasson and Juan Williams warping <a href="http://mediamatters.org/search/tag/npr" rel="nofollow">NPR</a>'s coverage, there are still hosts like <a href="http://mediamatters.org/search/tag/cokie_roberts" rel="nofollow">Cokie Roberts</a> and Adam Davidson pushing right wing talking points. It's a sad day in journalism when the bawdy <a href="http://TheRandiRhodesShow.com" rel="nofollow">Randi Rhodes</a> regularly crams more facts and truths in a ten minute rant than NPR puts does in any hour segment. “hyperbole”?

Right wing FOX toadies Mara Liasson and Juan Williams aren’t outliers.

The analysis by “Devilstower” on NPR’s persistent use of right wing American Enterprise Institute hacks wasn’t hyperbole, it was very well researched:

“Based on the information from NPR’s web page, 70 of the 86 people currently listed as scholars at AEI have had air time on NPR over the last eight years. If you omit the people who were either members of the Bush administration, or elected officials you still have 63 AEI pundits got attention from NPR. Not only that, but 16 of them made over a dozen appearances. In total, they got their say on public radio over 600 times over that period. That’s over 600 times that your tax dollars, and the contributions to your local station, helped AEI press the neocon message.”

Hyperbole might be “lambert” calling N.P.R.: “Nice Polite Republicans” in response to one of Nina Totenberg‘s oblique pieces.

But while some of NPR’s bias might be dismissed as subjective, when you add up 600 right wing puff pieces by a right wing think tank whose entire purpose is to push right wing fictions, well, that’s a remarkably persistent pattern of right wing bias.

Even if you can get past the right wing think tank(s) dominating NPR’s air time and right wing FOX toadies like Mara Liasson and Juan Williams warping NPR‘s coverage, there are still hosts like Cokie Roberts and Adam Davidson pushing right wing talking points.

It’s a sad day in journalism when the bawdy Randi Rhodes regularly crams more facts and truths in a ten minute rant than NPR puts does in any hour segment.

]]> By: Duros62 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/05/21/even-the-liberal-npr/#comment-153579 Duros62 Fri, 22 May 2009 18:34:23 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=14728#comment-153579 BTW, I loves me some Elizabeth Warren. She kicked ass in <a href="http://www.maxedoutmovie.com/syn/index.html" rel="nofollow">Maxed Out.</a> BTW, I loves me some Elizabeth Warren. She kicked ass in Maxed Out.

]]> By: Eric Sipple http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/05/21/even-the-liberal-npr/#comment-153544 Eric Sipple Fri, 22 May 2009 14:34:31 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=14728#comment-153544 Give NPR a little leeway here. Having a few bad reporters is not the same as being Fox News. They don't have a persistent right wing bias, and in fact they have some of the only good news shows out there, like Fresh Air, This American Life and - yes, even despite an unfortunate bias via Adam Davidson - Planet Money. We need to hold them to standards, but "Persistent right wing bias" is a bit of hyperbole. They're better than most, but maybe not good enough. Give NPR a little leeway here. Having a few bad reporters is not the same as being Fox News. They don’t have a persistent right wing bias, and in fact they have some of the only good news shows out there, like Fresh Air, This American Life and – yes, even despite an unfortunate bias via Adam Davidson – Planet Money.

We need to hold them to standards, but “Persistent right wing bias” is a bit of hyperbole. They’re better than most, but maybe not good enough.

]]> By: News Reference http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/05/21/even-the-liberal-npr/#comment-153513 News Reference Fri, 22 May 2009 04:10:58 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=14728#comment-153513 NPR's persistent right wing bias, illustrated by jerks like <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/15/planet-money-reporter-pai_n_203890.html" rel="nofollow">Adam Davidson</a>, is the reasons I stopped listening to NPR. With the right wing <a href="http://www.devilstower.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/4/5/715996/-How-Do-You-Spell-Lazy-A-E-I" rel="nofollow">American Enterprise Institute</a> being NPR's 'go to team' for economics, these days I spell "NPR": <a href="http://www.devilstower.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/4/5/715996/-How-Do-You-Spell-Lazy-A-E-I" rel="nofollow">"AEI"</a>. NPR’s persistent right wing bias, illustrated by jerks like Adam Davidson, is the reasons I stopped listening to NPR.

With the right wing American Enterprise Institute being NPR’s ‘go to team’ for economics, these days I spell “NPR”: “AEI”.

]]> By: Eric Sipple http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/05/21/even-the-liberal-npr/#comment-153509 Eric Sipple Fri, 22 May 2009 03:40:28 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=14728#comment-153509 I've been listening to Planet Money since it started and this interview pretty much set the entire listener base on fire. It went nuclear. Though this is proving to be the slowest moving meme in history. Every week it pops up a little further out in the liberal blogosphere. I'd have figured it would have come and gone, or just gone without ever getting anywhere by this point. I’ve been listening to Planet Money since it started and this interview pretty much set the entire listener base on fire. It went nuclear.

Though this is proving to be the slowest moving meme in history. Every week it pops up a little further out in the liberal blogosphere. I’d have figured it would have come and gone, or just gone without ever getting anywhere by this point.

]]> By: Duros62 http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/05/21/even-the-liberal-npr/#comment-153460 Duros62 Thu, 21 May 2009 22:14:30 +0000 http://www.oliverwillis.com/?p=14728#comment-153460 When Marketplace routinely has David Frum and Amity Shales as commentators, I know it is not a liberal platform. When Marketplace routinely has David Frum and Amity Shales as commentators, I know it is not a liberal platform.

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