It is you and your ilk that strive daily to turn our world into a cold, unfeeling laboratory maze for human beings to try the next liberal experiment, each one failing one after the other, to contribute in any way to the betterment of the human condition.

Translation: “Whaaaaaaa!!! I don’t like change!”

Seriously, though, what the fuck are you on? If you don’t know, abortion’s been legal for 30+ years. Here, it’s YOU that wants to “experiment” to see if women having to risk their lives for abortions betters the human condition, and, of course, failing AGAIN.

And, of course, like the last time you brought this “gem” up, which was talking about gay right, you believe this doesn’t better the human condition. Because apparently, gays (or women this time) aren’t human to you.

First, you’ve demonstrated yourself ONCE AGAIN to be a complete fucking idiot. Tell me – what is compelling my responses, if not your comments on this thread? Who am I responding to? I call you an idiot because your language indicates that you are one. Give me some evidence to the contrary, and then I can re-evaluate my position. But with the lack of this evidence, I must continue to think of you as a complete fucking moron.

Second, your hypocrisy is showing. Denouncing me for a lack of civility, while simultaneously engaging in low blows, as well as telling me that I lack humanity and am an “arrogant, contemptuous windbag”… you’re a hypocritical piece of shit. For the record, I don’t give a shit if you call me arrogant, or a windbag, or what have you – go to town. But I do get annoyed at your lack of self-awareness and your raging hypocrisy.

Third, you are a miserable scumbag.

“It is you and your ilk that strive daily to turn our world into a cold, unfeeling laboratory maze for human beings to try the next liberal experiment, each one failing one after the other, to contribute in any way to the betterment of the human condition.”

This is highly amusing to me. With respect to the “betterment of the human condition,” I’ve probably done more in my 5 years as a Ph.D student in psychology than you’ve done in your whole miserable, long existence.

You’re just a bitter, lonely old man, watching the clock tick down on his world ever-faster. Your body failing, your mind inflexible and deteriorating, you’ll cling helplessly to life for the next few years (if you’re lucky) before the sun sets on you. And when it does, Frankie, dear friend, you better hope that I am right about the whole God question – because if you’re correct, you are going to Hell.

If you were waiting for, “Burn her for a witch!”, or, “Hang the Doctor from the nearest lamppost”, well, sorry , you won’t. As long as you believe that the law provides “simple answers to simple questions”, you will never understand the law.

Mambochicken , as long as you attempt to justify your behavior by saying that my comments compel your responses, rather than face the fact that you are an arrogant, contemptuous windbag, you will never get a respectful response from me. It is you and your ilk that strive daily to turn our world into a cold, unfeeling laboratory maze for human beings to try the next liberal experiment, each one failing one after the other, to contribute in any way to the betterment of the human condition.

Go away. Quietly, or loudly, but go away.

Good grief, what other kinds of “penalties” could there be for the woman/girl having an abortion except criminal ones? Revocation of her library card? Loss of sampling privileges at Cold Stone Creamery?

“…shall we hold the knife manufacturer responsible?”

No.

“How about an education system that failed to teach the young girl a sufficient amount of self-defense to disarm her raging Dad?

No (and since when is it the job and duty of education systems, as opposed to, say, karate classes, to teach self-defense to young girls, or anyone else for that matter, anyway?).

“Or, perhaps we should punish the cabdriver that delivers the poor girl to Planned Parenthood?”

No, we shouldn’t since, unlike the girl in question, the cabdriver wouldn’t be participating in the abortion (and that’s accepting the implied premise of your question that the girl tells the cabdriver about the abortion she is about to get in the first place, which is fairly unlikely).

I’ve answered your questions in this matter. No why don’t you extend me the same courtesy and answer mine: What criminal penalties should be imposed on the girl/woman who has an abortion?

Well, logically, under criminal law, anyone who participated in the abortion. A simple answer to a simple question.

So why aren’t you? Why are you out to make the President look bad? America hater.

I said that despite the fact that some people said he should not speak there, he did, anyway. The very next sentence begins, “That is not leadership…”
My easily understood point was that contrary to what others had alleged, Mr

So you’re saying that he shouldn’t have spoken there because there were a few people that didn’t want him to? He should have all of his actions dictated by others? THAT’S not leadership, Frankie.

The objection to his speaking there was based on his positions on abortion. He vindicated their objections by speaking, irrelevantly, about abortion.

I think it was a fair compromise. He gave the people who wanted to hear him speak a rousing and memorable speech, while he gave the people exhuming phony outrage some slim sense of justification. That’s what we call “compromise”.

First, why must any and all penalties for having an abortion be criminal?

Because your side equates abortion to murder?

On whom should the weight of responsibility for an abortion fall? Taking your far-fetched example of the knife wielding incestuous Dad, shall we we hold the knife manufacturer responsible? How about an education system that failed to teach the young girl a sufficient amount of self – defense to disarm her raging Dad? Or, perhaps we should punish the cabdriver that delivers the poor girl to Planned Parenthood?

You just avoided the question. What do YOU think the penalties should be?

forget it. You’re not worth the effort.

You play the racist card so often that it has no meaning and little sting. While not politically correct to point out what may seem embarrassing it is not racist.

Obama has a strange way of showing gratitude, little loyalty and damn little interest in helping out his own family members.

AO: You’re an awful human being.

And then, your bullshit re: violent, incestuous fathers and abortion, calling it “far-fetched”… not to mention your declaration that you don’t believe my story, and your implied lamentation for my ex that I was with her… all those things clearly demonstrate that you are disconnected from reality, a huge shitbag, and a sorry excuse for a human being. Yours is a sad, pathetic existence, Frank, and I truly hope that you get what you deserve.

earlier having written…

his dizzy mother, a child herself, was abandoned by the african (sic) who seduced her.”

It is racist to suggest that Obama’s young, white mother was seduced and then abandoned by his African (read: black) father, when nothing of the sort has ever been suggested by the facts.

Did Obama’s mother get pregnant and then marry the father of her child? Yes. Did that marriage last only a couple of years before the couple parted ways? Yes, which sadly is not an uncommon story for that or any subsequent generation.

Does the fact that Obama’s father happened to be from Africa have any bearing whatsofuckingever on the circumstances of his birth? NO, you racist jerk!

You want to bring up that tired right-wing talking point that Obama “threw his grandmother under the bus,” okay. It’s utter crap, but okay. But there is no fucking way in hell you can justify that statement as anything but racist “OMG the scary black man got the poor little white girl pregnant!” bullshit.

In this case, as in so many right wing schemes, the right winger defends the right wing attackers and then blames the one attacked for responding.

That the one attacked responded politely is disregarded.

Right winger “Frank DiSalle’s” position is that the one attacked should not make any defense.

It’s a common tactic used by right wingers like Limbaugh, Murdoch’s FOX thugs, Gingrich, Cheney, and many if not most of the right wing speakers and leaders.

Right wingers attack and then act enraged when the person attacked defends themselves.

It’s an attempt to manipulate the left wing’s genuine concern for fairness against themselves.

The right wing pretends like they didn’t make attacks but then point to the defense as an offense. And if the one attacked attacks back then that’s pointed to as an even greater offense.

It’s an obscene way to manipulate an argument and right wingers are masters at it.

Right wingers attack and then complain about the one they attack defending themselves and then throw childish fits if the person or people they attack attacks back.

It’s sad really.

There are smart, conscientious right wingers out there, I’m fortunate enough to know a few personally.

But none have ever shown up at OliverWillis.com

I keep hoping that right winger “Jay” will start paying attention and think through his arguments. But he’s so enamored with his gun it short circuits everything else he thinks about.

I have a fantasy that right wingers “Colin” or “Jay Tea” will grow a conscience or at least learn how to do math.

right wingers “Amused Observer” and “yo mama” are just cowardly thugs (it’s almost like they are the same person…).

But this “Frank DiSalle” character is just wacky. He reminds me of that archetypal crazy person that wanders around nearly every big city, the person who wants to argue with everyone they meet, spout crazy arguments, and then smile and nod smugly as if their crazy arguments just won the argument.

Right winger “Frank DiSalle” is clearly a little nuts but his argumentation style is a Classic Right Wing con.

Because that’s just silly.

That’s what John McCain would’ve done.

Mambochicken, as I recall you insulted me twice before I mentioned your name. If anyone has a problem here, it is you. If you could get a handle on your arrogance, and condescension, you might be ready for tutorials in humanity.
Until then, put a sock in it.

But as you leave here today, remember the lessons of Cardinal Bernardin, of Father Hesburgh, of movements for change both large and small. Remember that each of us, endowed with the dignity possessed by all children of God, has the grace to recognize ourselves in one another; to understand that we all seek the same love of family and the same fulfillment of a life well-lived. Remember that in the end, we are all fishermen.

If nothing else, that knowledge should give us faith that through our collective labor, and God’s providence, and our willingness to shoulder each other’s burdens, America will continue on its precious journey towards that more perfect union. Congratulations on your graduation, may God Bless you, and may God Bless the United States of America.

Yes, what an entirely inappropriate speech to give at the commencement address of Notre Dame.

Nice balls, Frank. Yes, I have nothing better to do than to make up false stories about tragic events relevant to my personal life, and broadcast them on a political blog just as a way of tearing you down for my own amusement. I am that kind of person. Absolutely. Nice touch with your last sentence, too. Real classy. You’re a class act, Frank.

What an unbelievable fucking bastard you are. I cannot even begin to imagine how you became this inhuman monster. It’s to the point where I can’t figure out whether I’m more furious or saddened.