We non-Anglo Saxons work very very hard in the jobs that keep society going at pay that you scorn. We go into the Army and Navy at rates that shame you.

The welfare recipients you see are the results of outsourcing jobs first to the suburbs, then to China. What are the people in inner city supposed to do if they can’t get the jobs that are available because they are three counties over (that is when they exist at all). Yet people get up and go to work anyway, not always every day-many work seasonal jobs or temp jobs or contract jobs that last for the length of a project.

Someone here won an argument against a liberal? Who and when?

Which is why the Quakers had it soooo good in Massachusetts.

Read up on something past 5th grade history, oh amused one. A relatively small percentage of the original “Pilgrims” were actually fleeing religious persecution. The Puritans, (a minority even on their own ships in point of fact) were fleeing those dastardly Dutch and their open, liberal society. So they came to American and promptly started stockading and eventually hanging Quakers, “witches,” and other ne’er-do-wells.

You still haven’t e-mailed me your CV or resume. I’m content to think I’m doing much better than him until I’m proved otherwise.

You keep bringing up bullshit claims to authority, and I’ll be happy to refute them.

You and your backwards ideology die with you no matter what. We all do. But mine are directed towards the future, and they don’t entail fantasies about “Anglo Saxon culture” and “Asian lands.”

But again, thanks for reading my blog. I appreciate the traffic.

Parthenon,
I won’t quible with your list, I assume you googled it. But the Brits were the first to put teeth into thier opinion when they outlawed the movement of slaves over the water and backed it up with thier gunboats. I’m relying on memory not google but I believe that they started the blockade of West Africa somewhere just before our little arguement of 1812. As you said a whole lotta brown and non anglo between them and us but damn few gunboats.

Southern Quaker,
Like it or not this country, politically speaking, was founded primarily by Anglo Saxons. We (primarily subjects of England, of English stock,) overthrew the power of the king and established our own nation based upon the premise of individual liberty not the divine right of kings. Our Constitution was framed primarily by Anglo Saxons. Sure there were other europeons in North America at that time and subsequent waves of immigration but that has little bearing upon the foundation of these United States.

Jaim, you miss the point entirely in your post of 7:49.
When you compare what the Mexicans have accomplished in North America with what we and Canada have accomplished the results are striking. Same continent, roughly same time frame, different cultures with different values, different outcomes. So what was that Masters degree in? Accreditation does not always indicate education or knowlege. Yours seems not up to providing you a way to make a living in your native land. As I said earlier my boy taught English in an asian land I am not completely unaware of just what that entails.

On the subject of slavery I notice a whole lot more condemnation of the United States for ending slavery 175 years ago than against current practioners. Seems a little wierd.

Crusty Dem,
I suppose I could help the comprehension/coherence issue that troubles you by using smaller words or maybe bullet lists. I suspect however that nothing can help a hardcore progressive liberal understand the world as it is rather than as you wish it to be.

And that’s fine with me.

But please, keep reminding all of us how you’re on the wrong side of history. Yet again.

Of course, due to the Republican Recession, they might have thought twice about moving to the States when places like Canada are looking better in terms of long-term opportunity.

How many second generation immigrants do you know who were forced by their parents to learn to proficiently speak, read and write English (even though the parents didn’t) so that they could be successful? I personally know several.

And I know several second-generation immigrants who exclusively spoke languages other than English at home and are now doctors, scientists, entrepreneurs, etc. Language can be a factor, and if you never learn English at all it’s a problem, but language spoken at home doesn’t define success or failure.

Never mind. I know facts are hard. Just denounce me as a racist and move on.

I find your argument thoroughly unconvincing, not racist. But you’re not making the same idiotic assumptions AO was, are you?

Irony much?

1620.

FTFY.

Life will go on without you.

Nice job fellas. You’re helping to demonstrate the true definition of a “racist” on this post: “Anyone who is winning an argument with a liberal”

Riiiiight. The whole “we can survive if brown people can become like white people, rather than destroying our culture”-thing is just good old anti-PC conservative thinking. No hint of racism there.

More seriously, AO can’t win an argument until he can construct one. AO accuses us all of having reading comprehension problems? Perhaps he should hold off on criticism until he can formulate a coherent sentence, let alone a paragraph.

Jaim, you ignorant slut.

The difference you’re ignoring is that earlier immigrants made a real effort to assimilate into American society. How many second generation immigrants do you know who were forced by their parents to learn to proficiently speak, read and write English (even though the parents didn’t) so that they could be successful? I personally know several. And they weren’t the only ones. In contrast, immigrants today make little effort for the most part. Here in California, you have second and third generation immigrants whose primary language is still not English. Nearly one-third of California’s elementary school students and one-quarter of all K–12 students speak a language other than English at home and are not proficient in English. And while total enrollment in California schools has increased by 50% over the last two decades, the number of limited English proficiency students has risen by 300%.

Never mind. I know facts are hard. Just denounce me as a racist and move on.

On the other hand, yes. You are what I thought you were.

Ignorance and racism walks hand-in-hand.

Um…

Abolition of slavery

1588 Japan
1772 England
1777 Portugal
1804 Haiti
1811 Spain
1813 Argentina
1814 Netherlands
1822 Greece
1823 Chile
1829 Mexico
1831 Bolivia
1846 Tunisia
1847 Sweden
1848 Denmark
1854 Peru
1854 Venuzuela
1863 United States

Whole lotta brown and non-anglo saxonness between the Brits and us, ain’t there AO?

It is not only racist but incredibly naive to assert that Anglo Saxon culture is the pinnacle achievement of the human race. Not to mention stupid, since many of the immigrants of earlier generations were decidedly not Anglo Saxon. But they were white, weren’t they. So that’s okay, then.

Sorry, can’t resist responding to this. So when a poor Mexican comes to America and works his or her ass off to make it, they’re still tainted by their brown skin. But when poor Irish, Dutch, Germans, and Scots came here and worked hard to make it, they were somehow magically integrated into — what exactly? Unlike you, my ideal of America is based on whether a person is willing to work hard to achieve goals in a fair and public-minded way. You’re the one who will thankfully take your racist poison to the grave with you. Younger Americans simply don’t see the world that way any longer, thank God.

(And before you try and come back over the top with more racist mythology about how “Europeans” can get along but Mexicans can’t, please read a little bit about the ethnic tensions between Irish and Italian Catholics and German and Dutch Protestants going back to the 18th century.)