SaveFarris: “Swing voters didn’t have enough of conservatism. They had enough of Republicans who ran as conservatives and governed as Moderates.”

I think 2010 could be quite a shock for you.

Eric Sipple beat me to it. If all these closet-conservatives are out there in this great Center-Right nation, why the hell did most of them vote for Obama?

You guys are well and truly screwed. It’s beautiful.

hmmmm…..Theodore Roosevelt?

As much as Ike tried, the military-industrial complex of which he warned us was already too entrenched, and had him by the balls (and he knew it).

It’s been a *long* time since the Republican Party actually represented their voters, as compared to the Corporate interests…

You really strongly suspect that, Tom?

To be fair, when’s the last time a Republican did something right?

Shorter Farris: Um….because SHUT UP, THAT’S WHY!

So swing voters who really love conservatism responded to too many moderates in the Republican party by electing a Democrat promising a massive increase in government’s role in health care and energy while raising tax rates on high income earners?

I see.

Of course he would. He was a dumbass malleable figurehead and the model for George Bush, Jr.

Swing voters didn’t have enough of conservatism. They had enough of Republicans who ran as conservatives and governed as Moderates. Heck, even Obama ran as a quasi-Conservative! He tacked hard right (”95% of you will get a tax cut.” We’ll have a “net spending cut.”) and put a muzzle on everyone around him (Ayers/Wright/Michelle) that would remind voters of his liberal background.

I support this statement.

Maybe so, but they wouldn’t like him. WAY too liberal. He wouldn’t even get on the ballot in today’s GOP.

Awesome.

Please explain to me how the GOP picks up seats in 2010, or the presidency in 2012, by alienating moderate/independent voters? The swing voters who decided they’d had enough of conservatism in 2006 and 2008?

If the economy is still in the crapper, then you have a shot. But this puts you in the position of Limbaugh — “I hope he fails.” This won’t gain you many friends.

Chances are, the economy will pick up by late 2010, but it won’t be that great either.

There’s also the possibility of another massive intelligence/leadership failure like 9/11. God forbid it happens, but I sleep a lot more soundly at night knowing adults are in charge now.

So the GOP platform becomes “Remember us! We’re the ones that fucked over America for eight years! 9/11! Wall Street collapsing! Never caught Osama! Fucked up Iraq! And after two years of a Dem prez things are, um, kind of OK and improving despite the residual wing-nut damage!”

I’m sure Patrick Ruffini has it all figured out. Or Gingrich. Or whomever the hell it is you guys are trying to recycle on that day.

Primarying Spectre would be counterproductive, much like the Democrats primarying Ben Nelson with a liberal candidate would be counterproductive.

But the Republicans realized it would be easy to primary a (slightly) moderate Republican like Chuck Hagel in Nebraska, which is what ultimately compelled him to retire.

Well I have no idea why Robert Casey springs to mind, of the three only one is not a false analogy.

Zell Miller did more than vote against party interests. He campaigned against Democratic candidates. Zell spoke at the Republican National Convention, which is just a bit different from voting on a bill the party didn’t like.

Joe Lieberman’s a more fair comparison, and I think demonstrates exactly how useless running a more extreme primary candidate against someone can be. Like Lamont, Toomey will probably win the primary and lose the election. I dislike Lieberman, but if you’re going to primary challenge someone, it should be because you have a better winning candidate, not just someone with views you like more.

J.

I’m pretty sure the smiley face guy at the end of the comment implies that it was meant as a joke.

Also, Rush Limbaugh is a racist asshole.