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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 19:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know what the funniest part is? Not only are WE laughing at you guys (Dennis and yo mama), your corporate overlords are laughing at you too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what the funniest part is? Not only are WE laughing at you guys (Dennis and yo mama), your corporate overlords are laughing at you too.</p>
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		<title>By: News Reference</title>
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		<dc:creator>News Reference</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 21:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Over 90% of American taxpayers are getting a TAX CUT.

Why do the tea baggers hate 90% of America?</description>
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<p>Why do the tea baggers hate 90% of America?</p>
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		<title>By: News Reference</title>
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		<dc:creator>News Reference</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 21:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Dennis the tea bagger, who insists he knows his dildos, complains that a factually researched article was called out as a lie by? Who? Liars? &lt;a href=&quot;http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2009/04/conservatives_analogizing_themselves_to_violent_terrorists.php&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;A delusional character in a fictional movie?&lt;/a&gt;

Dennis, the tea bagging &lt;a href=&quot;http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/14/heritage-afp-tea-party/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tea parties&lt;/a&gt; were conceived of and organized by right wing &lt;a href=&quot;http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/09/lobbyists-planning-teaparties/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;corporate lobbyists&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s not to say that a lot of angry right wingers haven&#039;t signed on. That&#039;s not to say that a lot of those don&#039;t have a clue as to who organized the tea bagging parties.

They heard the tea bagging parties advertised by Murdoch&#039;s FOX corporation and just signed on like angry lemmings.

Dennis, I don&#039;t think you&#039;re a bad person, just an angry lemming, a true believer that hasn&#039;t taken the time to figure out that you are getting tea bagged by corporate lobbyists.

Or worse, corporate lobbyists are getting you to tea bag them.

Stop tea bagging corporate lobbyists, Dennis.

Stop mouthing filthy corporate nonsense and use your passion for something good and decent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Dennis the tea bagger, who insists he knows his dildos, complains that a factually researched article was called out as a lie by? Who? Liars? <a href="http://yglesias.thinkprogress.org/archives/2009/04/conservatives_analogizing_themselves_to_violent_terrorists.php" rel="nofollow">A delusional character in a fictional movie?</a></p>
<p>Dennis, the tea bagging <a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/14/heritage-afp-tea-party/" rel="nofollow">tea parties</a> were conceived of and organized by right wing <a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/09/lobbyists-planning-teaparties/" rel="nofollow">corporate lobbyists</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not to say that a lot of angry right wingers haven&#8217;t signed on. That&#8217;s not to say that a lot of those don&#8217;t have a clue as to who organized the tea bagging parties.</p>
<p>They heard the tea bagging parties advertised by Murdoch&#8217;s FOX corporation and just signed on like angry lemmings.</p>
<p>Dennis, I don&#8217;t think you&#8217;re a bad person, just an angry lemming, a true believer that hasn&#8217;t taken the time to figure out that you are getting tea bagged by corporate lobbyists.</p>
<p>Or worse, corporate lobbyists are getting you to tea bag them.</p>
<p>Stop tea bagging corporate lobbyists, Dennis.</p>
<p>Stop mouthing filthy corporate nonsense and use your passion for something good and decent.</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 20:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/2009/04/15/how-very-grassrooty/ 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Donald Douglas:

    &quot;Having attended attended an organizing meeting last night with the Orange County National Tax Day Tea Party, I can assure people that &quot;teabaggers&quot; are not peasants. The meeting was held at a 12th floor law firm at Ivine&#039;s Wells Fargo Tower.&quot;

You know, bitching about bailouts while  in the Wells Fargo Tower is all kinds of awesome.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh Dennis? You were saying...</description>
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<blockquote><p>Donald Douglas:</p>
<p>    &#8220;Having attended attended an organizing meeting last night with the Orange County National Tax Day Tea Party, I can assure people that &#8220;teabaggers&#8221; are not peasants. The meeting was held at a 12th floor law firm at Ivine&#8217;s Wells Fargo Tower.&#8221;</p>
<p>You know, bitching about bailouts while  in the Wells Fargo Tower is all kinds of awesome.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh Dennis? You were saying&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 18:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Oh, Duros. So very clever. &lt;/i&gt;

Hey, thanks, buddy. I can match anyone&#039;s immaturity any day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Oh, Duros. So very clever. </i></p>
<p>Hey, thanks, buddy. I can match anyone&#8217;s immaturity any day.</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/04/15/none-dare-call-it-astroturf-well-except-most-of-us/#comment-148776</link>
		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 18:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;Most&lt;/b&gt; of what you linked to is the standard left wing talking point crap that came out of the debunked and fallacious Playboy article you guys all thought was proof positive of a VRWC.&lt;/i&gt;

Such as? Could you perhaps, maybe possibly be, you know, a wee bit specific here? You say, &quot;most&quot;. For starters, which wasn&#039;t &quot;debunked,&quot; eh (i.e., the part other than &quot;most&quot;)? 

&lt;i&gt;you guys spend an inordinate amount of time on this&lt;/i&gt;

And yet, here you are. Again. That&#039;s weird. 

&lt;i&gt;You’re either lying about that or it’s gone well past the point of it being an obsessive mental disorder.&lt;/i&gt;

Or it could be:

http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/ 
http://www.eschatonblog.com/2009/04/like-fuzzy-dice.html 

Like fuzzy dice. Indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i><b>Most</b> of what you linked to is the standard left wing talking point crap that came out of the debunked and fallacious Playboy article you guys all thought was proof positive of a VRWC.</i></p>
<p>Such as? Could you perhaps, maybe possibly be, you know, a wee bit specific here? You say, &#8220;most&#8221;. For starters, which wasn&#8217;t &#8220;debunked,&#8221; eh (i.e., the part other than &#8220;most&#8221;)? </p>
<p><i>you guys spend an inordinate amount of time on this</i></p>
<p>And yet, here you are. Again. That&#8217;s weird. </p>
<p><i>You’re either lying about that or it’s gone well past the point of it being an obsessive mental disorder.</i></p>
<p>Or it could be:</p>
<p><a href="http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/" rel="nofollow">http://tbogg.firedoglake.com/</a><br />
<a href="http://www.eschatonblog.com/2009/04/like-fuzzy-dice.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.eschatonblog.com/2009/04/like-fuzzy-dice.html</a> </p>
<p>Like fuzzy dice. Indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 18:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Dennis, when your mouth isn’t full of Dick Armey. talking points&lt;/i&gt;  Duros62

Oh, Duros.  So very clever.  Haven&#039;t seen that one anywhere on the internet; or on MSNBC.  You&#039;re the first.

Well done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Dennis, when your mouth isn’t full of Dick Armey. talking points</i>  Duros62</p>
<p>Oh, Duros.  So very clever.  Haven&#8217;t seen that one anywhere on the internet; or on MSNBC.  You&#8217;re the first.</p>
<p>Well done.</p>
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		<title>By: Dennis</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/04/15/none-dare-call-it-astroturf-well-except-most-of-us/#comment-148773</link>
		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 18:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;A big part of the tea party movement was organized by the corporate lobbyist front group FreedomWorks.&lt;/i&gt;  News Reverence

News Reference, you&#039;re kind of a dildo.  Most of what you linked to is the standard left wing talking point crap that came out of the debunked and fallacious Playboy article you guys all thought was proof positive of a VRWC.  The fact of the matter remains, you guys spend an inordinate amount of time on this for something you claim is purely only about something to laugh about.  You&#039;re either lying about that or it&#039;s gone well past the point of it being an obsessive mental disorder.  One of the two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>A big part of the tea party movement was organized by the corporate lobbyist front group FreedomWorks.</i>  News Reverence</p>
<p>News Reference, you&#8217;re kind of a dildo.  Most of what you linked to is the standard left wing talking point crap that came out of the debunked and fallacious Playboy article you guys all thought was proof positive of a VRWC.  The fact of the matter remains, you guys spend an inordinate amount of time on this for something you claim is purely only about something to laugh about.  You&#8217;re either lying about that or it&#8217;s gone well past the point of it being an obsessive mental disorder.  One of the two.</p>
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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 18:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Dennis, when your mouth isn’t full of Dick Armey. &lt;strike&gt;talking points&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/strike&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Dennis, when your mouth isn’t full of Dick Armey. <strike>talking points</strike></i></p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
		<link>http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/04/15/none-dare-call-it-astroturf-well-except-most-of-us/#comment-148771</link>
		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 18:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More good stuff:

http://thepoorman.net/2009/04/15/who-was-trained-not-to-spit-in-the-fan/ 

Before referencing Taibbi: &lt;blockquote&gt;Keep in mind on this, the day of the million bags being swallowed, that the massive populist taxpayer revolt signified by the bagadeers is in reaction to the fact that Obama passed one of the largest middle class tax cuts in US history, but has returned the upper bracket marginal rates to Clinton era levels (which were themselves lower than the rates that prevailed during much of that notorious Commie, Ronald Reagan’s tenure). 

Even then, Obama isn’t actually passing a law to raise those rates as much as letting the Bush tax cuts expire as they were supposed to do - which enabled Bush and the GOP to downplay the hit the deficit would take with their redistribution of trillions of dollars to the wealthiest &lt;strike&gt;that rarely deign to even rub elbows with the unwashed hoi polloi&lt;/strike&gt; among us.

So Obama plans to cut taxes for the working stiff, leave them in place for the upper middle and let the Bush cuts expire for the wealthiest.  And implement a stimulus to breathe life into a moribund economy raped and left lifeless by a merry band of greedy bankers who now congregate with hands out and &lt;strike&gt;teary eyes&lt;/strike&gt; a sense of indignant entitlement to the taxpayer largesse needed to ease their fall. 

And for this, we get the rage of the lumpen proletariat aimed at Obama and his tax policies.  &lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More good stuff:</p>
<p><a href="http://thepoorman.net/2009/04/15/who-was-trained-not-to-spit-in-the-fan/" rel="nofollow">http://thepoorman.net/2009/04/15/who-was-trained-not-to-spit-in-the-fan/</a> </p>
<p>Before referencing Taibbi:<br />
<blockquote>Keep in mind on this, the day of the million bags being swallowed, that the massive populist taxpayer revolt signified by the bagadeers is in reaction to the fact that Obama passed one of the largest middle class tax cuts in US history, but has returned the upper bracket marginal rates to Clinton era levels (which were themselves lower than the rates that prevailed during much of that notorious Commie, Ronald Reagan’s tenure). </p>
<p>Even then, Obama isn’t actually passing a law to raise those rates as much as letting the Bush tax cuts expire as they were supposed to do &#8211; which enabled Bush and the GOP to downplay the hit the deficit would take with their redistribution of trillions of dollars to the wealthiest <strike>that rarely deign to even rub elbows with the unwashed hoi polloi</strike> among us.</p>
<p>So Obama plans to cut taxes for the working stiff, leave them in place for the upper middle and let the Bush cuts expire for the wealthiest.  And implement a stimulus to breathe life into a moribund economy raped and left lifeless by a merry band of greedy bankers who now congregate with hands out and <strike>teary eyes</strike> a sense of indignant entitlement to the taxpayer largesse needed to ease their fall. </p>
<p>And for this, we get the rage of the lumpen proletariat aimed at Obama and his tax policies.  </p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: News Reference</title>
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		<dc:creator>News Reference</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 18:13:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Duros62: &quot;Get the peasants to protest IN FAVOR of the aristocracy.&quot;

It&#039;s what the Republicans have been doing for decades. 

But it took a professional Hollywood entertainer and slick corporate marketing spokesman, Republican Ronald Reagan, to pull the really big con.

Republican President Reagan raised taxes on the working class (while reducing taxes for the rich), busted a union, doubled the &lt;a href=&quot;http://havenworks.com/us/debt&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;US debt&lt;/a&gt;, and gave amnesty to undocumented &lt;a href=&quot;http://havenworks.com/us/immigration&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;immigrants&lt;/a&gt;.

And for that the right wing have made &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/attytood/Why_Reagan_still_matters_A_sneak_peak_at_Tear_Down_This_Myth.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ronald Reagan&lt;/a&gt; a false idol that they worship to this day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Duros62: &#8220;Get the peasants to protest IN FAVOR of the aristocracy.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s what the Republicans have been doing for decades. </p>
<p>But it took a professional Hollywood entertainer and slick corporate marketing spokesman, Republican Ronald Reagan, to pull the really big con.</p>
<p>Republican President Reagan raised taxes on the working class (while reducing taxes for the rich), busted a union, doubled the <a href="http://havenworks.com/us/debt" rel="nofollow">US debt</a>, and gave amnesty to undocumented <a href="http://havenworks.com/us/immigration" rel="nofollow">immigrants</a>.</p>
<p>And for that the right wing have made <a href="http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/attytood/Why_Reagan_still_matters_A_sneak_peak_at_Tear_Down_This_Myth.html" rel="nofollow">Ronald Reagan</a> a false idol that they worship to this day.</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 18:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;If only Louis XVII had thought of this. Get the peasants to protest IN FAVOR of the aristocracy. It’s fucking brilliant!.&lt;/i&gt;

Indeed. No one ever accused the Fox News demo of being smart (I bet they still believe Saddam Hussein was directly tied to 9-11--wonder where they got that idea?). 

And speaking of Fox News, they are The Awesome:&lt;blockquote&gt;
Reality Based Person: You assholes are outright supporting the Teabag Protests.
Fox News: We are doing nothing of the sort. We are a legitimate news organization, every bit as legitimate as any other in history. In fact, we&#039;re more fair and balanced because we say it so much. 
RBP: What a crock.
FN: Coming up: More shameless support of the Teabag Protests from Fox News!
RBP: A-ha! You just supported the Teabag Protests. Caught ya red-handed! Busted! 
FN: No you didn&#039;t. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
That&#039;s full-on, industrial grade, take no prisoners, never apologize Right Wing Awesomeness. It&#039;s a wonder to behold. The deeply stupid wingnutzz who buy into it are too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>If only Louis XVII had thought of this. Get the peasants to protest IN FAVOR of the aristocracy. It’s fucking brilliant!.</i></p>
<p>Indeed. No one ever accused the Fox News demo of being smart (I bet they still believe Saddam Hussein was directly tied to 9-11&#8211;wonder where they got that idea?). </p>
<p>And speaking of Fox News, they are The Awesome:<br />
<blockquote>
Reality Based Person: You assholes are outright supporting the Teabag Protests.<br />
Fox News: We are doing nothing of the sort. We are a legitimate news organization, every bit as legitimate as any other in history. In fact, we&#8217;re more fair and balanced because we say it so much.<br />
RBP: What a crock.<br />
FN: Coming up: More shameless support of the Teabag Protests from Fox News!<br />
RBP: A-ha! You just supported the Teabag Protests. Caught ya red-handed! Busted!<br />
FN: No you didn&#8217;t. </p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s full-on, industrial grade, take no prisoners, never apologize Right Wing Awesomeness. It&#8217;s a wonder to behold. The deeply stupid wingnutzz who buy into it are too.</p>
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		<title>By: News Reference</title>
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		<dc:creator>News Reference</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 18:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dennis is a tea bagger? Go figure.

Dennis, when your mouth isn&#039;t full of Dick Armey talking points, you really need to read up on just who funded the &lt;a href=&quot;http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/09/lobbyists-planning-teaparties&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;tea party&lt;/a&gt; movement.

A big part of the tea party movement was organized by the corporate lobbyist front group &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=FreedomWorks&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;FreedomWorks&lt;/a&gt;.

Dennis, you seem like a true believer, but you really need to look and see who is tea bagging you. They are NOT your friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dennis is a tea bagger? Go figure.</p>
<p>Dennis, when your mouth isn&#8217;t full of Dick Armey talking points, you really need to read up on just who funded the <a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/09/lobbyists-planning-teaparties" rel="nofollow">tea party</a> movement.</p>
<p>A big part of the tea party movement was organized by the corporate lobbyist front group <a href="http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=FreedomWorks" rel="nofollow">FreedomWorks</a>.</p>
<p>Dennis, you seem like a true believer, but you really need to look and see who is tea bagging you. They are NOT your friends.</p>
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		<title>By: Duros62</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duros62</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 17:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If only Louis XVII had thought of this. Get the peasants to protest IN FAVOR of the aristocracy. It&#039;s fucking &lt;b&gt;brilliant!&lt;/b&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If only Louis XVII had thought of this. Get the peasants to protest IN FAVOR of the aristocracy. It&#8217;s fucking <b>brilliant!</b>.</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 17:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have to love how Team Limbaugh/Hannity/Coulter/Jonah consistently tries to deflect any criticism of their policies with the undefined &quot;derangement syndrome&quot; (much like &quot;socialism&quot; isn&#039;t defined). If you think George Bush, Jr. was an incompetent boob who unwisely ignored 9-11 threats, foolishly cut taxes on the wealthy and regulation on corporations, and lied about the reasons for the wildly stupid Iraq Invasion (in addition to a raft of other stupid shit), well, it&#039;s because you&#039;re deranged. Same deal now. Matt Taibbi isn&#039;t calling bullshit on the Teabag Protests, pulling away a crepe-paper thin curtain in the process. No no, he&#039;s quite obviously deranged. Whom ya gonna believe anyway? Fox News and well-heeled corporate lobbyists or your lyin&#039; eyes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have to love how Team Limbaugh/Hannity/Coulter/Jonah consistently tries to deflect any criticism of their policies with the undefined &#8220;derangement syndrome&#8221; (much like &#8220;socialism&#8221; isn&#8217;t defined). If you think George Bush, Jr. was an incompetent boob who unwisely ignored 9-11 threats, foolishly cut taxes on the wealthy and regulation on corporations, and lied about the reasons for the wildly stupid Iraq Invasion (in addition to a raft of other stupid shit), well, it&#8217;s because you&#8217;re deranged. Same deal now. Matt Taibbi isn&#8217;t calling bullshit on the Teabag Protests, pulling away a crepe-paper thin curtain in the process. No no, he&#8217;s quite obviously deranged. Whom ya gonna believe anyway? Fox News and well-heeled corporate lobbyists or your lyin&#8217; eyes?</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 16:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sgwhiteinfla beat me to the Taibbi, which is highly recommended.

Ulitmate graf:&lt;blockquote&gt;But actual rich people can’t ever be the target. It’s a classic peasant mentality: going into fits of groveling and bowing whenever the master’s carriage rides by, then fuming against the Turks in Crimea or the Jews in the Pale or whoever after spending fifteen hard hours in the fields. You know you’re a peasant when you worship the very people who are right now, this minute, conning you and taking your shit. Whatever the master does, you’re on board. When you get frisky, he sticks a big cross in the middle of your village, and you spend the rest of your life praying to it with big googly eyes. Or he puts out newspapers full of innuendo about this or that faraway group and you immediately salute and rush off to join the hate squad. A good peasant is loyal, simpleminded, and full of misdirected anger. And that’s what we’ve got now, a lot of misdirected anger searching around for a non-target to mis-punish… can’t be mad at AIG, can’t be mad at Citi or Goldman Sachs. The real villains have to be the anti-AIG protesters! After all, those people earned those bonuses! If ever there was a textbook case of peasant thinking, it’s struggling middle-class Americans burned up in defense of taxpayer-funded bonuses to millionaires. It’s really weird stuff. And bound to get weirder, I imagine, as this crisis gets worse and more complicated.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sgwhiteinfla beat me to the Taibbi, which is highly recommended.</p>
<p>Ulitmate graf:<br />
<blockquote>But actual rich people can’t ever be the target. It’s a classic peasant mentality: going into fits of groveling and bowing whenever the master’s carriage rides by, then fuming against the Turks in Crimea or the Jews in the Pale or whoever after spending fifteen hard hours in the fields. You know you’re a peasant when you worship the very people who are right now, this minute, conning you and taking your shit. Whatever the master does, you’re on board. When you get frisky, he sticks a big cross in the middle of your village, and you spend the rest of your life praying to it with big googly eyes. Or he puts out newspapers full of innuendo about this or that faraway group and you immediately salute and rush off to join the hate squad. A good peasant is loyal, simpleminded, and full of misdirected anger. And that’s what we’ve got now, a lot of misdirected anger searching around for a non-target to mis-punish… can’t be mad at AIG, can’t be mad at Citi or Goldman Sachs. The real villains have to be the anti-AIG protesters! After all, those people earned those bonuses! If ever there was a textbook case of peasant thinking, it’s struggling middle-class Americans burned up in defense of taxpayer-funded bonuses to millionaires. It’s really weird stuff. And bound to get weirder, I imagine, as this crisis gets worse and more complicated.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Zython</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zython</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 16:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;This is setting up a strawman. The main criticisms I’ve seen are that the teabaggin movement is not what Fox et al claim it is. It is not a majority movement. It is not drawing equally from the left and right.&lt;/i&gt;

That and the organizers are such prudes that they don&#039;t actually know what &quot;teabagging&quot; actually means.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>This is setting up a strawman. The main criticisms I’ve seen are that the teabaggin movement is not what Fox et al claim it is. It is not a majority movement. It is not drawing equally from the left and right.</i></p>
<p>That and the organizers are such prudes that they don&#8217;t actually know what &#8220;teabagging&#8221; actually means.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 16:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sgwhite,
The only thing I can think is that when Keyes found out his daughter was a lesbian, he was, AFAIK, &#039;less than fully supportive and accepting&#039;.
Or, given the source, perhaps he was perceived as being MORE supportive and accepting than the situation warranted; e.g., he didnt&#039; ship her off to a &#039;scared straight&#039; re-education facility.

And Dennis, yes, you&#039;re right - we&#039;re all terrified by the Teabaggers. We laugh because otherwise we&#039;d shriek with fear.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sgwhite,<br />
The only thing I can think is that when Keyes found out his daughter was a lesbian, he was, AFAIK, &#8216;less than fully supportive and accepting&#8217;.<br />
Or, given the source, perhaps he was perceived as being MORE supportive and accepting than the situation warranted; e.g., he didnt&#8217; ship her off to a &#8216;scared straight&#8217; re-education facility.</p>
<p>And Dennis, yes, you&#8217;re right &#8211; we&#8217;re all terrified by the Teabaggers. We laugh because otherwise we&#8217;d shriek with fear.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean D. Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean D. Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 16:11:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dennis: &lt;i&gt;Tea Party Derangement Syndrome - its here!&lt;blockquote&gt;In TPDS tea party participants are accused of everything from being closet racists to armchair Timothy McVeighs.&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/i&gt;This is setting up a strawman.  The main criticisms I&#039;ve seen are that the teabaggin movement is not what Fox et al claim it is.  It is not a majority movement.  It is not drawing equally from the left and right.

So when the criticism is made that Fox is a lying hypocrite or that teabaggers are foolish (not really understanding what they are supposedly protesting against.  Obama isn&#039;t coming to take your guns, indoctrinate your children or raise your taxes) rather than address those your reply is to wail that teabaggers are all being called racists and gun nuts.

&lt;blockquote&gt;This is clearly a serious subject for serious discussion from whatever side of the issue you fall out on&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Indeed.  So let&#039;s seriously discuss it by mailing teabags to the White House.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dennis: <i>Tea Party Derangement Syndrome &#8211; its here!<br />
<blockquote>In TPDS tea party participants are accused of everything from being closet racists to armchair Timothy McVeighs.</p></blockquote>
<p></i>This is setting up a strawman.  The main criticisms I&#8217;ve seen are that the teabaggin movement is not what Fox et al claim it is.  It is not a majority movement.  It is not drawing equally from the left and right.</p>
<p>So when the criticism is made that Fox is a lying hypocrite or that teabaggers are foolish (not really understanding what they are supposedly protesting against.  Obama isn&#8217;t coming to take your guns, indoctrinate your children or raise your taxes) rather than address those your reply is to wail that teabaggers are all being called racists and gun nuts.</p>
<blockquote><p>This is clearly a serious subject for serious discussion from whatever side of the issue you fall out on</p></blockquote>
<p>Indeed.  So let&#8217;s seriously discuss it by mailing teabags to the White House.</p>
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		<title>By: sgwhiteinfla</title>
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		<dc:creator>sgwhiteinfla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 13:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watch out for the Libertarians crashing the Tea bagging parties

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#30218165

I wonder what the dude meant about how Alan Keyes treated his daughter....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watch out for the Libertarians crashing the Tea bagging parties</p>
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<p>I wonder what the dude meant about how Alan Keyes treated his daughter&#8230;.</p>
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