Compared to the Fox “News” Channel, an extremely unbiased news network. There’s no liberal equivalent of “Morning Joe” on Fox. MSNBC gave a show to Michael Friggin Savage, for pete’s sake. Name one liberal, in the entire twelve-year history of the network, to get his/her own, stand-alone show on the Fox “News” Channel.

“Biden is so stupid he told a paraplegic to stand up.”

And Bush 43, while still president, told a blind reporter to take off his sunglasses.

In what respect, Zooey72?

“Morning Joe,” Einstein.

And you people made fun of Quayle?

Still do. Are you still defending him?

I know I am wasting my time, you people think that M. Moore writes non fiction and that 9/11 was an “inside job”.

Anyone here think 9/11 was an inside job? No? OK then.

Do you want to see media bias? Here it is… Sarah Palin. I have to see a show of hands how many of you loons think she was not completely distorted and unfairly attacked by the media.

Someone set fire to her church for christ sake and it was barely covered in the MSM. If someone had done that to BO it would have been history books, but doing it to a conservative gets a pass to the MSM.

The cop she “was using influence to fire” (which was proven untrue) was found DRUNK in his cop car. He tasered her 12 year old nephew. This is probably the first time I have ever seen the left defend the police. The question of the paternity of her son was brought up. That a woman could not be a good president and parent (btw, which includes BO since he has 2 children that are not 18 yet – just like Palin).

Her “gaffes” were crap someone on Saturday Night live said. Her counterpart – BOZO the VP (Biden) can barely string a sentence together. Has no idea of history. Has made racist statements about people working in convienent stores. Biden is so stupid he told a paraplegic to stand up.

See this site for a fraction of the stupid things he has said:

http://www.dailymail.com/Opinion/Editorials/200810240187

And you people made fun of Quayle? I think it was a good move on BO’s part to make Biden VP. No one would dare assasinate him lest we have this moron take over. Biden couldn’t find his ass with both hands.

I know I am wasting my time, you people think that M. Moore writes non fiction and that 9/11 was an “inside job”.

I have no doubt the tea parties will be much smaller than your amnesty, anti-war, gay pride riots. We are conservatives, we have jobs (I am taking a vacation day go). Get a job and pay your own mortgage.

J.G.Thayer: “News, might I introduce you to C.S. Strowbridge? He and a bunch of others — especially around here — have been doing just that for ages. This is nothing new.”

Really? I’ve been attacking the GOP for what the KKK does? Do you have a link to back that up?

Yes there’s a recipe for success.

Way to miss the point, Mr. Tea!

The Republicans (and FNC) are promoting this “tea party movement” as the ‘real’ Republican Party, and an illustration of the ‘core principles’ that the Party must return to.

“And what an amazing coincidence — the shouter was right on top of the person filming! Judging by volume and clarity, a lot closer to the camera than even the person who questioned if she was serious.”

It was obvious to me that the people taping this were sympathetic to the “cause”. They probably expected better “discourse”, however. Who wouldn’t? Instead, they got the same ranting and tough talk that any bar patron is exposed to after any random wingnut has had his third shot.

I don’t think that anyone outside of “wingnut world” really expected the “tea party movement” to be a refuge of intellectualism. Mostly it’s just unalloyed rage from people who have forgotten what losing is like, and that is what most people expect from the “movement”. The Republicans know this, but this is what ‘energising the base’ looks like up close. It’s not pretty, so they market it as something else.

These people have a right to express themselves, but the rest of the nation has a right to mock them, too.

It seems to me that the GOP is trying to use the tactics of the Left, in the belief that “turnabout is fair play”. However, the Right is not suited at all for those tactics, and they end up looking ridiculous and contradictory. This knee-jerk reaction of “the Left does it too!” is pretty silly, since the Right has clearly self-defined itself as something fundamentally distinct in terms of values and character.

Republican Gramm was and still is a fraudster, apparently that was what qualified him to be the Republican Presidential candidates economics guru.

More seriously, Bill Clinton was literally more conservative than Republican President Nixon and Republican President Eisenhower. In fact, Bill Clinton was the best Republican President since Lincoln.

The fact that Clinton had a nominal (D) behind his name didn’t make his signing onto right wing ideology suddenly the responsibility of the left wing he’d turned his back on.

Still, Clinton was better than any of the options the Republicans have ever put up (at least since Lincoln).*

Clinton’s mistake of signing onto Republican legislation included Republican Gramm’s last minute manipulation of the banking deregulation that created the “Enron loophole” that enabled the Enron’s frauds. And yet during the 1990’s Enron’s boss Ken Lay was sending love letters to Republican Governor of Texas George Bush, not to Clinton.

As for the hurricane Katrina response, how does a national emergency get blamed on the Governor and Mayor who had a fraction of the resources available to negligent President Bush?

Republican Bush handed America’s national emergency response agency to an incompetent crony and got what could be expected: a miserable response that cost a LOT of lives.

At least FEMA functioned properly under Clinton.

And if a Governor is going to be responsible for a national emergency, wouldn’t that make Texas Republican Governor George Bush responsible for the failures of the largest corporation in his state?

As you point out, the Texas based Enron Corporation’s “most egregious crimes were conducted in the 1990’s” right under the nose of then Texas Republican Governor George Bush.

As for “evolution,” the Republican Party wouldn’t exist without their anti-evolution, anti-science voters. As I recall, at least 3 of the last 9 Republican Presidential candidates dismissed evolution and so did the Republican Vice Presidential candidate Palin.

It’s tough to say what you would “go along with” Jay Tea. It’s astonishing how many fictions you can shove into just one post. It seems you’d “go along with” just about anything.

* Clinton was not only more conservative but he was also considerably better than his more liberal Republican counterparts.

Nixon? See: Watergate.

Eisenhower? See the CIA operation that destabilized democratic Iran and put in place a dictator that was so bad that the unintended consequence was the rise of militant Islam. Republican Eisenhower’s international mischief resulted in the Iranian problems our nation has been facing for the last 30 years.

Jay Tea “might I introduce you to” the majority of the Republican Party and their right wing media allies conflating “ANSWER, ACORN, Code Pink, La Raza, and [the] Democratic Underground” with the Democratic Party “for ages. This is nothing new.”

The point is that none of those groups has a cable channel that claims to be “news” (but is literally just a propaganda arm of the Republican Party) that has a prime time host pour what they pretend to be gasoline on a person and then light a match to push their completely insane right wing militancy.

See: Beck, Glenn on Murdoch’s FOX Republican propaganda station.

Crazy rarely knows how crazy “crazy” sounds.

Your very first thought is that it’s a left wing plant?

Do you realize how crazy that sounds, Jay?

I never cited the shouting guy as an authority on anything — merely noted that he was the speaker at the time.

Are you saying that it was just blind luck that the photographer happened to be standing next to the shouter? Just an astonishing coincidence?

And to riff off Jay Tea, since “fair’s fair,” “let’s start judging” the right by Stormfront, the John Birchers, and the KKK.

News, might I introduce you to C.S. Strowbridge? He and a bunch of others — especially around here — have been doing just that for ages. This is nothing new.

Here’s a fun fact — Enron’s most egregious crimes were conducted in the 1990’s, and only exposed and prosecuted in the last decade. Care to guess which party held the White House during each phase?

Here’s another fun fact — guess the party of the mayor of New Orleans and the governor of Louisiana during Katrina. You might remember Ray Nagin and Kathleen Blanco, those legendary incompetents.

Burn books on evolution? I dunno where the fuck you got the insane idea of affiliating that with me, ed, but you’re just plain patently stupid if you think I go along with any aspect of that.

J.

That brings up those failures of commerce funded by Scaife, Murdoch, Moon, and Zell. Each of them lose money on their print publications. It’s socialized welfare for right wing propagandists.

But as the crazy guy in the video that Jay Tea cites as an authority says, the only power the right wing has is marketing (something I’ve been saying for years).

So Murdoch loses money on the New York Post, Moon loses money on the Washington Times, Zell loses money on the Tribune Corp, Scaife loses money on his news paper, and they all do so to market the right wing message.

It even takes right wing lobbyist money to fund and plan the Tea Baggers fauxrage (which was marketed by Murdoch’s FOX spokesmodels).

Which brings to question just how much money does Commentary Magazine make Jay Tea? And, again, is Commentary Magazine paying you to be a troll?

Is Jay Tea’s trolling the equivalent of socialized welfare for someone who otherwise would be unemployed? Is it like Republican McCain’s brownie points for how many internet posts you could make to push Republican McCain’s fictions?

Moreover, by Jay Tea’s always flexible standards, suddenly the crazy at the right wing meeting is a left wing plant. So by Jay Tea’s standards, the crazy’s at the left wing meeting’s are likely right wing plants?

In fact, there is evidence that left wing meetings were/are regularly infiltrated by right wing plants and that those right wing plants were the most incendiary and outrageous members precisely to bring discredit to those groups.

It’s too easy to imagine Jay Tea dressed completely in pink with blood on his hands screaming “BUSH IS A MURDERER!”

Anything for a buck, right, Jay Tea?

And to riff off Jay Tea, since “fair’s fair,” “let’s start judging” the right by Stormfront, the John Birchers, and the KKK.

But to be really fair, the right should be judged by Abramoff, Bybee, Cheney, DeLay, Enron loophole, Feith, Goodling, Haggard, Inhofe, Katrina response, Libby, Miers, Norquist, Palin, Rove, Scalia, Tancredo, Vitter, Weldon, and Yoo.

Judging the right wing by the Republican leaders and their handiwork is damming all by itself.

P.S.: That alphabet of Republican corruption skips the letters: J, O, U, x, and Z, so the right wing may have that going for them…

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/04/09/lobbyists-planning-teaparties/

Here’s a crazy theory for you: maybe you and your kind are ignorant assholes, full of hate and backwards thinking.

Which network are they on? Which prominent lefty talk radio hosts support them? Equivalence!

Any equivalence to the Sarah Palin rallies? No? Well, OK then.

“Burn the books?” That has such negative connotations, that most people don’t use it in a positive sense. Throw them out, replace them, use this book instead — “book burning” has a justifiably bad assocation.

Shorter Jay Tea: As long as we get rid of books like “Evolution” it doesn’t matter how it’s done.